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Amel 54 Davit System

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

Does anyone have any photos, suggestions, comments on a davit system for the 54?


Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

eric freedman
 

Kent,

I think Necol charged me about $100- for both hoses complete with fittings.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 3:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications





Hi Kent, it was your encouragement when we met in St Martin that caused me
to get new hoses fabricated with new fittings while we were there. From
memory the cost for two hoses was around US$600, hence my shock. Lesson
learned, always get a quote first. I thought, two little hoses, shouldn't be
much and yours had been so cheap. Ah well, put that one down to experience.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonuji
New Zealand


________________________________
From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo..com <mailto:karkauai%40yahoo..com> >
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> "
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2011 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications




Danny, et al.
Here's a post I did a couple years ago describing the hoses I had made in
Charleston. I don't know what model water maker you have, but this worked
great for me. Mine is the 60 l/hr model with 24v hi-press pump.

(Charleston Rubber and Gasket www.chasragco..com <http://www.chasragco.com>
) who made two new
hoses for me from food grade tubing with stainless outer cover, stainless
fittings ( 3/8" JIC fittings), and plastic covers for total of
$71 US.

Hope that helps.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY

________________________________
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz <mailto:simms%40xtra.co.nz> >
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> "
<amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications


I too had some made in St Martin and the price scared me wittless. The
fittings are hugely expensive so take the old hose off your fittings and use
them again, or at least get a quote before you start.I didn't and I wished I
had.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

________________________________
From: eric <kimberlite@optonline.net <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 December 2011 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications



Gary,

I had a couple of hoses made by NECOL in St Martin if you are in the area.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups..com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups..com> ] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

Hi All:

Well, Liahona (Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335) is now 10.5 years old and holding up
very well after 8 of those years being in the Caribbean. However, on my last
trip I noticed that the outer rubber coating of one of the high pressure
hoses on my water maker was starting to disintegrate. The "B" nut accepts a
3/4 ths inch wrench but may have been able to accept a 11/16 ths inch wrench
and the threads are 18 threads per inch. I don't know for sure but I believe
that the angle of the flare is 37 degrees (i.e. US standard) but I couldn't
measure it for sure. Can anyone on the forum verify if these hoses (two of
them (one from the high pressure pump to the membrane end caps and one from
the membrane end caps to the pressure manifold on the control panel) are
standard SAE -06 hoses with 37 degree flare?

Thanks,
Gary Silver
s/v Liahona


Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

eric freedman
 

Danny,

Do you remember where you had your hoses made?

Mine were inexpensive.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:46 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications





I too had some made in St Martin and the price scared me wittless. The
fittings are hugely expensive so take the old hose off your fittings and use
them again, or at least get a quote before you start.I didn't and I wished I
had.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand


________________________________
From: eric <kimberlite@optonline.net <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 December 2011 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications




Gary,

I had a couple of hoses made by NECOL in St Martin if you are in the area.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

Hi All:

Well, Liahona (Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335) is now 10.5 years old and holding up
very well after 8 of those years being in the Caribbean. However, on my last
trip I noticed that the outer rubber coating of one of the high pressure
hoses on my water maker was starting to disintegrate. The "B" nut accepts a
3/4 ths inch wrench but may have been able to accept a 11/16 ths inch wrench
and the threads are 18 threads per inch. I don't know for sure but I believe
that the angle of the flare is 37 degrees (i.e. US standard) but I couldn't
measure it for sure. Can anyone on the forum verify if these hoses (two of
them (one from the high pressure pump to the membrane end caps and one from
the membrane end caps to the pressure manifold on the control panel) are
standard SAE -06 hoses with 37 degree flare?

Thanks,
Gary Silver
s/v Liahona


Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

karkauai
 

Hey Dave. I'm learning. The same hoses thru Desallator were $250
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com>
Sender: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:10:42
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

Kent,

It's always good if you can avoid "marine" suppliers. I've had good luck with industrial suppliers for hoses and other rubber products. At one point I was in Seattle working on a boat that was older than I was and found gaskets to fit the original ports through an industrial supply house for pennies on the dollar of what any marine retailer would have charged.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Danny, et al.
Here's a post I did a couple years ago describing the hoses I had made in Charleston. ツI don't know what model water maker you have, but this worked great for me. ツMine is the 60 l/hr model with 24v hi-press pump.

(Charleston Rubber andツGasket www.chasragco.com <http://www.chasragco.com> ) who made two new
hoses for me from food grade tubing with stainless outer cover,ツstainless fittings ( 3/8" JIC fittings), and plastic covers for total of
$71 US.ツ


Hope that helps.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY


Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Kent, it was your encouragement when we met in St Martin that caused me to get new hoses fabricated with new fittings while we were there. From memory the cost for two hoses was around US$600, hence my shock. Lesson learned, always get a quote first. I thought, two little hoses, shouldn't be much and yours had been so cheap. Ah well, put that one down to experience.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonuji
New Zealandツ


________________________________
From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo..com>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 17 December 2011 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications





Danny, et al.
Here's a post I did a couple years ago describing the hoses I had made in Charleston. ツI don't know what model water maker you have, but this worked great for me. ツMine is the 60 l/hr model with 24v hi-press pump.

(Charleston Rubber andツGasket www.chasragco..com <http://www.chasragco.com> ) who made two new
hoses for me from food grade tubing with stainless outer cover,ツstainless fittings ( 3/8" JIC fittings), and plastic covers for total of
$71 US.ツ

Hope that helps.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY

________________________________
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications



I too had some made in St Martin and the price scared me wittless. The fittings are hugely expensive so take the old hose off your fittings and use them again, or at least get a quote before you start.I didn't and I wished I had.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

________________________________
From: eric <kimberlite@optonline.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 16 December 2011 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications



Gary,

I had a couple of hoses made by NECOL in St Martin if you are in the area.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups..com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

Hi All:

Well, Liahona (Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335) is now 10.5 years old and holding up
very well after 8 of those years being in the Caribbean. However, on my last
trip I noticed that the outer rubber coating of one of the high pressure
hoses on my water maker was starting to disintegrate. The "B" nut accepts a
3/4 ths inch wrench but may have been able to accept a 11/16 ths inch wrench
and the threads are 18 threads per inch. I don't know for sure but I believe
that the angle of the flare is 37 degrees (i.e. US standard) but I couldn't
measure it for sure. Can anyone on the forum verify if these hoses (two of
them (one from the high pressure pump to the membrane end caps and one from
the membrane end caps to the pressure manifold on the control panel) are
standard SAE -06 hoses with 37 degree flare?

Thanks,
Gary Silver
s/v Liahona

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Re: Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Hi Gary,

I am not sure if you can use the following information or not, but here goes.

The original hose for the 160l water maker is: "VEC" (which is the brand, I think) VE740000 SAE 100 R& 5/16" MAX W.P. 190 BAR - MADE IN ITALY. I bought twice as much hose that I needed from Lil Budget Marine on the French side of St. Martin for 78 Euros.

Your current fittings are reusable with new hose...they are not crimped fittings, rather they screw together. See the following: http://www.dessalator.fr/en/technical-questions/installation-of-high-pressure-connectors/

Bill
BeBe SM2k, #387
Currently Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

Hi All:

Well, Liahona (Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335) is now 10.5 years old and holding up very well after 8 of those years being in the Caribbean. However, on my last trip I noticed that the outer rubber coating of one of the high pressure hoses on my water maker was starting to disintegrate. The "B" nut accepts a 3/4 ths inch wrench but may have been able to accept a 11/16 ths inch wrench and the threads are 18 threads per inch. I don't know for sure but I believe that the angle of the flare is 37 degrees (i.e. US standard) but I couldn't measure it for sure. Can anyone on the forum verify if these hoses (two of them (one from the high pressure pump to the membrane end caps and one from the membrane end caps to the pressure manifold on the control panel) are standard SAE -06 hoses with 37 degree flare?

Thanks,
Gary Silver
s/v Liahona


Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

Dave_Benjamin
 

Kent,

It's always good if you can avoid "marine" suppliers. I've had good luck with industrial suppliers for hoses and other rubber products. At one point I was in Seattle working on a boat that was older than I was and found gaskets to fit the original ports through an industrial supply house for pennies on the dollar of what any marine retailer would have charged.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Danny, et al.
Here's a post I did a couple years ago describing the hoses I had made in Charleston. テつI don't know what model water maker you have, but this worked great for me. テつMine is the 60 l/hr model with 24v hi-press pump.

(Charleston Rubber andテつGasket www.chasragco.com <http://www.chasragco.com> ) who made two new
hoses for me from food grade tubing with stainless outer cover,テつstainless fittings ( 3/8" JIC fittings), and plastic covers for total of
$71 US.テつ


Hope that helps.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY


Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Kent, you got a good deal..we had this issue in St. Thomas and Reefco charged us about $200+



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 11:52 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications





Danny, et al.
Here's a post I did a couple years ago describing the hoses I had made in Charleston. I don't know what model water maker you have, but this worked great for me. Mine is the 60 l/hr model with 24v hi-press pump.

(Charleston Rubber and Gasket www.chasragco.com <http://www.chasragco.com> ) who made two new
hoses for me from food grade tubing with stainless outer cover, stainless fittings ( 3/8" JIC fittings), and plastic covers for total of
$71 US.

Hope that helps.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY

________________________________
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz <mailto:simms%40xtra.co.nz> >
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> " <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications



I too had some made in St Martin and the price scared me wittless. The fittings are hugely expensive so take the old hose off your fittings and use them again, or at least get a quote before you start.I didn't and I wished I had.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

________________________________
From: eric <kimberlite@optonline.net <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 December 2011 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications



Gary,

I had a couple of hoses made by NECOL in St Martin if you are in the area.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

Hi All:

Well, Liahona (Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335) is now 10.5 years old and holding up
very well after 8 of those years being in the Caribbean. However, on my last
trip I noticed that the outer rubber coating of one of the high pressure
hoses on my water maker was starting to disintegrate. The "B" nut accepts a
3/4 ths inch wrench but may have been able to accept a 11/16 ths inch wrench
and the threads are 18 threads per inch. I don't know for sure but I believe
that the angle of the flare is 37 degrees (i.e. US standard) but I couldn't
measure it for sure. Can anyone on the forum verify if these hoses (two of
them (one from the high pressure pump to the membrane end caps and one from
the membrane end caps to the pressure manifold on the control panel) are
standard SAE -06 hoses with 37 degree flare?

Thanks,
Gary Silver
s/v Liahona



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Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

karkauai
 

Danny, et al.
Here's a post I did a couple years ago describing the hoses I had made in Charleston. ツI don't know what model water maker you have, but this worked great for me. ツMine is the 60 l/hr model with 24v hi-press pump.

(Charleston Rubber andツGasket www.chasragco.com <http://www.chasragco.com> ) who made two new
hoses for me from food grade tubing with stainless outer cover,ツstainless fittings ( 3/8" JIC fittings), and plastic covers for total of
$71 US.ツ


Hope that helps.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY


________________________________
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications



I too had some made in St Martin and the price scared me wittless. The fittings are hugely expensive so take the old hose off your fittings and use them again, or at least get a quote before you start.I didn't and I wished I had.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand


________________________________
From: eric <kimberlite@optonline.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 16 December 2011 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications




Gary,

I had a couple of hoses made by NECOL in St Martin if you are in the area.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

Hi All:

Well, Liahona (Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335) is now 10.5 years old and holding up
very well after 8 of those years being in the Caribbean. However, on my last
trip I noticed that the outer rubber coating of one of the high pressure
hoses on my water maker was starting to disintegrate. The "B" nut accepts a
3/4 ths inch wrench but may have been able to accept a 11/16 ths inch wrench
and the threads are 18 threads per inch. I don't know for sure but I believe
that the angle of the flare is 37 degrees (i.e. US standard) but I couldn't
measure it for sure. Can anyone on the forum verify if these hoses (two of
them (one from the high pressure pump to the membrane end caps and one from
the membrane end caps to the pressure manifold on the control panel) are
standard SAE -06 hoses with 37 degree flare?

Thanks,
Gary Silver
s/v Liahona

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Re: [Amel] Re: Holding Tank Outflow Valve Replacement/Failure Mode - SM

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi all as has been posted here the use of a product call SEW works very well. In the meantime to clear the blockage we add some liquid to soften the mass and used an old eyeless fishing rod as a probe to breakup the blockage working from the deck opening. It needs to be a rod that will bent a bit.

Good luck Gary. When you replace the ball valve be sure to use British thread valves and 2 pipe wrenches when removing the old one. Second we use a heat gun to soften the hose to get the old one off and the new one on.

Regards SM 209 for sale in Annapolis.
Happy Holidays to all!!!!!

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Dec 16, 2011, at 8:29, "goughs_au" <goughs_au@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

Another possible way to remove the scale is by the use of acid. I cannot recommend what concentrations or time of exposure. Perhaps someone with more experience could help here.
Mike
SM 378

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

I have posted a picture of the outflow valve/thru hull valve for the forward head aboard my Super Maramu. It is in the photos section under Amel SM - Holding Tank Issues.

This holding tank would not empty on the last few occasions and what we discovered is that a slow bypass leak of this valve allowed all the liquid to seep out while trapping the solids, which then became impacted (sorry for the graphic description). The only cure I can think of is to replace the valve. It appears that there is a glassed in area of the outflow pipe that has wrenchings on it. I am a little worried about torquing on the valve very much for fear of disturbing the potting/fiberglass of the outflow pipe and creating a leak. Anybody had experience with removing this valve? It appears there is a hose barb adapter at the top of the valve that accepts the interconnecting hose. Is that adapter salvageable?

Thanks for any input.

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona
Sapphire Bay Marina, St. Thomas

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Re: Holding Tank Outflow Valve Replacement/Failure Mode - SM

Mike Gough
 

Another possible way to remove the scale is by the use of acid. I cannot recommend what concentrations or time of exposure. Perhaps someone with more experience could help here.
Mike
SM 378

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

I have posted a picture of the outflow valve/thru hull valve for the forward head aboard my Super Maramu. It is in the photos section under Amel SM - Holding Tank Issues.

This holding tank would not empty on the last few occasions and what we discovered is that a slow bypass leak of this valve allowed all the liquid to seep out while trapping the solids, which then became impacted (sorry for the graphic description). The only cure I can think of is to replace the valve. It appears that there is a glassed in area of the outflow pipe that has wrenchings on it. I am a little worried about torquing on the valve very much for fear of disturbing the potting/fiberglass of the outflow pipe and creating a leak. Anybody had experience with removing this valve? It appears there is a hose barb adapter at the top of the valve that accepts the interconnecting hose. Is that adapter salvageable?

Thanks for any input.

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona
Sapphire Bay Marina, St. Thomas


Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

I too had some made in St Martin and the price scared me wittless. The fittings are hugely expensive so take the old hose off your fittings and use them again, or at least get a quote before you start.I didn't and I wished I had.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand


________________________________
From: eric <kimberlite@optonline.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 16 December 2011 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications





Gary,

I had a couple of hoses made by NECOL in St Martin if you are in the area.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

Hi All:

Well, Liahona (Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335) is now 10.5 years old and holding up
very well after 8 of those years being in the Caribbean. However, on my last
trip I noticed that the outer rubber coating of one of the high pressure
hoses on my water maker was starting to disintegrate. The "B" nut accepts a
3/4 ths inch wrench but may have been able to accept a 11/16 ths inch wrench
and the threads are 18 threads per inch. I don't know for sure but I believe
that the angle of the flare is 37 degrees (i.e. US standard) but I couldn't
measure it for sure. Can anyone on the forum verify if these hoses (two of
them (one from the high pressure pump to the membrane end caps and one from
the membrane end caps to the pressure manifold on the control panel) are
standard SAE -06 hoses with 37 degree flare?

Thanks,
Gary Silver
s/v Liahona

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Re: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

eric freedman
 

Gary,

I had a couple of hoses made by NECOL in St Martin if you are in the area.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications





Hi All:

Well, Liahona (Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335) is now 10.5 years old and holding up
very well after 8 of those years being in the Caribbean. However, on my last
trip I noticed that the outer rubber coating of one of the high pressure
hoses on my water maker was starting to disintegrate. The "B" nut accepts a
3/4 ths inch wrench but may have been able to accept a 11/16 ths inch wrench
and the threads are 18 threads per inch. I don't know for sure but I believe
that the angle of the flare is 37 degrees (i.e. US standard) but I couldn't
measure it for sure. Can anyone on the forum verify if these hoses (two of
them (one from the high pressure pump to the membrane end caps and one from
the membrane end caps to the pressure manifold on the control panel) are
standard SAE -06 hoses with 37 degree flare?

Thanks,
Gary Silver
s/v Liahona


Re: [Amel] Holding Tank Outflow Valve Replacement/Failure Mode - SM

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

HI Gary, had this problem with ourツ head, ie the holding tank not draining. Caused by scale building up on the walls of the tank over years and then flaking off and blocking the outlet. Cleared it from the outside by thrusting a length of flexible tube up.ツHappened to both tanks. later got in from the top through the deck cap and scraped all the muck off the walls. Took quite a while to get itツall out of the system, scrape-drain,scrape-drain etc etc but what else is there to do in exotic locations.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealandツツツツツ


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From: amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 16 December 2011 10:24 AM
Subject: [Amel] Holding Tank Outflow Valve Replacement/Failure Mode - SM





I have posted a picture of the outflow valve/thru hull valve for the forward head aboard my Super Maramu. It is in the photos section under Amel SM - Holding Tank Issues.

This holding tank would not empty on the last few occasions and what we discovered is that a slow bypass leak of this valve allowed all the liquid to seep out while trapping the solids, which then became impacted (sorry for the graphic description). The only cure I can think of is to replace the valve. It appears that there is a glassed in area of the outflow pipe that has wrenchings on it. I am a little worried about torquing on the valve very much for fear of disturbing the potting/fiberglass of the outflow pipe and creating a leak. Anybody had experience with removing this valve? It appears there is a hose barb adapter at the top of the valve that accepts the interconnecting hose. Is that adapter salvageable?

Thanks for any input.

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona
Sapphire Bay Marina, St. Thomas




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Hartman & Paderborn Safe Electronics Replacement

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi All:

I failed to renew the batteries in my Hartman & Paderborn Safe in a timely fashion and they caused damage to the circuit board which quit working. I was able to make contact with the company in Germany and they have a repair kit available that includes: 1) the circuit board, 2) a new keypad, 3) the solenoid that activates the un-locking mechanism, and 4) a new battery holder and cable. It was priced at about 69 Euros which I deemed very fairly priced for all four items and it can only be purchased as a complete kit. It is very simple to replace these items. If anyone needs replacement parts for this type of safe they are available by contacting :

daniel.sommer at hartmann-tresore.de (of course replace the "at with the ampersand @"

This gentleman was extremely helpful.

All the best,

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona Amel SM #335


Holding Tank Outflow Valve Replacement/Failure Mode - SM

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

I have posted a picture of the outflow valve/thru hull valve for the forward head aboard my Super Maramu. It is in the photos section under Amel SM - Holding Tank Issues.

This holding tank would not empty on the last few occasions and what we discovered is that a slow bypass leak of this valve allowed all the liquid to seep out while trapping the solids, which then became impacted (sorry for the graphic description). The only cure I can think of is to replace the valve. It appears that there is a glassed in area of the outflow pipe that has wrenchings on it. I am a little worried about torquing on the valve very much for fear of disturbing the potting/fiberglass of the outflow pipe and creating a leak. Anybody had experience with removing this valve? It appears there is a hose barb adapter at the top of the valve that accepts the interconnecting hose. Is that adapter salvageable?

Thanks for any input.

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona
Sapphire Bay Marina, St. Thomas


Dessalator Water Maker High Pressure Hose Specifications

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi All:

Well, Liahona (Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335) is now 10.5 years old and holding up very well after 8 of those years being in the Caribbean. However, on my last trip I noticed that the outer rubber coating of one of the high pressure hoses on my water maker was starting to disintegrate. The "B" nut accepts a 3/4 ths inch wrench but may have been able to accept a 11/16 ths inch wrench and the threads are 18 threads per inch. I don't know for sure but I believe that the angle of the flare is 37 degrees (i.e. US standard) but I couldn't measure it for sure. Can anyone on the forum verify if these hoses (two of them (one from the high pressure pump to the membrane end caps and one from the membrane end caps to the pressure manifold on the control panel) are standard SAE -06 hoses with 37 degree flare?

Thanks,
Gary Silver
s/v Liahona


Re: OUTHAUL MIZZEN CAR FAILURE

Craig Briggs
 

George,

As Antal noted in their reply to you, the "conventional" (non-Amel, of
course!) in-mast outhaul arrangement has the outhaul starting at the
car, then thru a sheve on the clew, back thru a block on the car and
then thru a boom end sheve and forward to an outhaul winch. This will
indeed reduce the load on the outhaul car by (up to) 50%, as the sail
load will now be shared by the car and the outhaul winch, whereas the
"Amel way" puts the full load on the car and the winch only moves the
car aft.

I don't know if Amel engineered the boom-end block for that load - I
suspect it wouldn't be an issue though, as it does get most of the sail
load anyway. I would expect a (somewhat) greater load on the outhaul
winch when you trim it in.

Of course, without wholesale rigging change, this modification won't
work on the main with its continuous outhaul line.

Interesting that Antal noted Amel was using this "conventional" setup on
its new boats - let's hope all the Amel eccentricities didn't die with
the Captain ;-)

Craig Briggs, SN#68 - "SANGARIS", on the hard in Leros, GR


(No subject)

Geoffrey Tyers <geoffrey_tyers@...>
 


Re: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain

Ian Shepherd
 

Hi John & Anne,

I did read your previous post and copied your idea of a shaft anode on
the chain next to the anchor. It may have helped, but I still have
suffered galloping corrosion of the chain. I will switch to a fresh
water chain rinse this winter to see if it helps. Having to berth in
Larnaca marina with my anchor out does not help.

All is otherwise well. Crusader has a new set of sails from North Sails
Israel made out of Radian material. They look good and initial
impressions are that she points better and is overall about half to
three quarters of a knot faster than before. But then I guess this will
usually be the case when sails are new. Radian is supposed to be more
resistant to stretching and the sails should keep their shape longer.
Time will tell.

I did send you an email early in the year when I heard you mention you
would be in the Aegean this year in the hope that we might meet up. I
usually sail about 3000 nms around the islands each summer where I meet
many Amels but alas not Bali hai. What plans for next year?

Season Greetings

Ian SM 414 Crusader

On 06/12/2011 09:38, Anne and John Hollamby wrote:

Hello Ian, How are things in Cyprus? I did a post on this subject a
few months ago saying that I had my original chain hot dipped
galvanised in Barcelona three years ago for 180euros plus carriage and
it is still lke new.There are a couple of reasons why this might be
the case. I replaced the original SS CQR type anchor a long time ago
with a galvanised Bugel type that I bought in Turkey as it is a much
better anchor and stainless reacts to damage the galvanising on the
chain. I also have a couple of prop shaft anodes on the end of the chain.
Hope all is well with you, Anne and John, Bali hai, SM319

----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Shepherd
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:46 PM
Subject: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain

My galvanised anchor chain barely lasts two years before most of the
zinc has gone despite having a prop shaft anode on the chain next to the
stainless anchor. I am contemplating switching to a stainless chain.
Does anyone have experience good or bad of stainless? If you use it on
an Amel SM, was it necessary to increase the size from 10mm to 12mm? Did
it rust? Did it resist stretching? If good, which brand did you buy? Did
you discover any new problems?

Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader