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Re: prop suddenly turning

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Miles.

I speak from experience with the Hurth/ZF non hydraulic gear box. The insructions that came with my new Volvo D2 75 on a helm station decal is to have the gear either in neutral (spinning freely) or reverse, never forward.HOWEVER, the purpose when in gear is to stop the prop rotating at all. The slow spin you are seeing will be wearing your plates. Put it in the gear that stops the prop dead. I have a wierd experience. Sometimes that is forward gear  sometimes reverse. What I do is lift the engine compartment lid when I stop the motor and am sailing with the gear in neutral. Prop spinning merrily. I put it into gear. If there is a satisfying clunk and the prop stops dead. Thats the gear I leave it in. If it slows without the clunk  I put it in the other. I have no idea why, but it has worked like that for years.  I know the slow spin is damaging. There is no rhyme nor reason to this.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 28 October 2019 at 04:05 Miles <milesbid@...> wrote:


Dear Amelians,
I am heading for Bermuda and then Marinique..  I just noticed that the propeller shaft was turning when I was sailing and the throttle handle was flat forward as Amel said to dol.  I have no shaft break and an AutoProp propeller.  My boat is SM 216.  I have owned it from new.  There is a placard attached to the boat in front of the shift lever.  The placard says, quite strongly, to always have the shift  in forward when sailing and I have always done this.  Just now, I noticed that the shaft was rotating slowly with the gear in forward and the boat going about 5 knots. It was slow and I could stop it with my foot.  Does this mean that the clutches in the transmission were slipping and wearing?   I don't understand how the shaft can turn when it is in gear and the engine is stopped.
I tried putting it in reverse and the shaft stopped.  Doing this means passing through neutral to start the motor.  In neutral, the prop spins fast in reverse and putting the transmission in forward causes a big jerk on the transmission clutches. 
I don't know what to do and I would be grateful for advice.
 Regards,
MIles,
S/Y Ladybug, sm216  350 miles NW of Bermuda.

Re: Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

Teun BAAS
 

Hi Bill,

 

Are these SS elbows the same for all VOLVO D3 110 – like I now have the “H” version of the D3?

 

Do they also make one for the ONAN generator model I have on board?

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

NOUMEA  NEW CALEDONIA

October 28, 2019 05:51:21

 

https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 08:23
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

 

Jeffery,

 

Great!

 

HDI will use it to make a mold, then make an investment cast stainless steel elbow for the D3. For those of you that don't know what we are discussing, many marine engines including Yanmar and Volvo have either a cast iron or welded stainless steel exhaust elbow. These almost always fail, and seem to fail at an inconvenient time. I had my Yanmar welded stainless steel elbow fail in Thailand. The Yanmar OEM part cost me Yanmar list price of $500 plus $500 duty. HDI sells an investment cast stainless steel elbow for less than $300.

 

HDI is a Preferred Vendor of Amel Yacht Owners School. Many Amel owners have added HDI exhaust elbows to their engines. I did. As far as I know, everyone is satisfied and all are very happy with the product and price. I assume that HDI will have the D3-110 part available in 4-6 weeks. The contact information I have is:

HDI Marine Ltd
www.hdimarine.net
Hailey Wilkerson, Director of Marketing


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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

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On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 1:21 PM JEFFREY KRAUS <jmkraus@...> wrote:

I got it. I replied mine. I'll bring it back with me and send it to you monday

 

 

 

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

 

-------- Original message --------

From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>

Date: 10/26/19 2:12 PM (GMT-04:00)

Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

 

Yes

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 12:29 PM JEFFREY KRAUS <jmkraus@...> wrote:

Bill, are you looking for the exhaust elbow coming off the turbo?

 

 

 

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

 

-------- Original message --------

From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>

Date: 10/24/19 1:33 PM (GMT-04:00)

Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

 

If one of you has a Volvo D3-110 exhaust elbow, I could use it. 

 

As you probably know HDI Marine the manufacturer of Stainless Steel Investment Cast elbows is a Preferred Vendor of Yacht School

 

I just received an email from HDI asking if I could locate a D3-110 elbow for them to use to make a mold which will allow them to produce a Stainless Steel Investment Cast elbow for the D3-110. If you have an old one in any condition, it will work.

 

Let me know.

 

Bill


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Re: Infos about Break in the Main Mast Furler

Porter McRoberts
 

Alexander 
I and others have had the same issue. The motor is a common one, Leroy Somers as I recall, commonly used in winches so it can be found. Ours was so badly coroded to the housingthat we just ended up getting a new one from Amel. It’s such an important piece that we felt it worth it. The key is to keep an eye on that seal!  And perhaps cover it when in storage to guard against uv degradation. 
Getting it in and out of the mast can be a bit of a head scratcher, but it does go. 

Best of luck. 
Porter 
S/V IBIS A54-152
Opua, NZ

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 
Www.fouribis.com

On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:58 AM, Alexander Hofmann <DACJ@...> wrote:

Hi Amel 54 friends,
my main mast furler did block due to corrosion inside, after 8 years of operation. The rubber sealing ring above was broken, and there has been no drain hole in the lower part. Funny. Both Topics are resolved with a new furler (NOT lowcost) from AMEL. I try to repair the old one to have a spare furler onboard.
The break inside the furler in the lower section is strongly corroded and needs repair or replacement. 
I am sure that I am not the first and not the last who has had or will have this problem. 
My question: Does anybody has information and experience about the mechanical parts, the electrical connection, or even where the mechanical parts of this break could be found for purchase?
Thanks for your help!!!
Alexander
SY Oceanica I. Amel 54#156 from 2010

Re: prop suddenly turning

Ian Park
 

Santorin prop alternator operates with gear lever in neutral.
Same notice as others, do not put gear on forward when sailing.

On 27 Oct 2019, at 17:06, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <@Balu> wrote:

He all
I think the forward rotation by sail is no problem by the SM because a lot of SM have a alternator on the c drive . When he is working the prop works forward to push the alternator

Elja SM Balu 222

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Re: prop suddenly turning

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He all
I think the forward rotation by sail is no problem by the SM because a lot of SM have a alternator on the c drive . When he is working the prop works forward to push the alternator

Elja SM Balu 222

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Re: prop suddenly turning

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Franchement = properly

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ryan Meador
Sent: 27 October 2019 20:30
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] prop suddenly turning

 

Our boat has a little placard next to the shifter which reads "Sous voiles, moteur arrêté. NE JAMAIS LAISSER LE LEVIER EMBRAYE dans la POSITION QUI NE STOPPE PAS franchement l'hélice." (crazy capitalization in original)  Which I translate to "Under sail, motor stopped.  NEVER LEAVE THE SHIFT LEVER in a POSITION WHICH DOES NOT STOP the propeller ."  If I take a slightly looser translation, "Under sail without motor: never leave the shift lever in a position which allows the propeller to spin freely."

 

So it doesn't actually tell you which position to put it in, just that you should make it stop.  It doesn't even tell you to make it stop spinning, but I think that's implied.  I've noticed on mine that it will slowly spin if put in forward, so I always leave it in reverse.  I believe the original owner of our boat did the same.  But the text does say something about the free spinning of the propeller (I think; "franchement" doesn't seem to have a direct translation to English in this context. Google Translate just drops it from the sentence entirely) so it's possible that slowly rotating is fine.

 

Ryan and Kelly

SM 233 Iteration

Boston, MA, USA

 

On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:33 AM Gerhard Mueller via Groups.Io <carcode=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

I don't know which gearbox your Amel has. But my Sharki has the Hurth HBW20 gearbox and the placard says, quite strongly, to NEVER have the shift in forward when sailing and the engine is stopped!
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: prop suddenly turning

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He Mlles
I think it is possible the Prop is a little dirty and he is not in the right position?
Maybe you trey to give him a push in the back position . When you are lucky he gos in the forward position in the right position and stop to turn
Best Elja
SM Balu 222

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Re: prop suddenly turning

Ryan Meador
 

Our boat has a little placard next to the shifter which reads "Sous voiles, moteur arrêté. NE JAMAIS LAISSER LE LEVIER EMBRAYE dans la POSITION QUI NE STOPPE PAS franchement l'hélice." (crazy capitalization in original)  Which I translate to "Under sail, motor stopped.  NEVER LEAVE THE SHIFT LEVER in a POSITION WHICH DOES NOT STOP the propeller ."  If I take a slightly looser translation, "Under sail without motor: never leave the shift lever in a position which allows the propeller to spin freely."

So it doesn't actually tell you which position to put it in, just that you should make it stop.  It doesn't even tell you to make it stop spinning, but I think that's implied.  I've noticed on mine that it will slowly spin if put in forward, so I always leave it in reverse.  I believe the original owner of our boat did the same.  But the text does say something about the free spinning of the propeller (I think; "franchement" doesn't seem to have a direct translation to English in this context. Google Translate just drops it from the sentence entirely) so it's possible that slowly rotating is fine.

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA

On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 11:33 AM Gerhard Mueller via Groups.Io <carcode=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
I don't know which gearbox your Amel has. But my Sharki has the Hurth HBW20 gearbox and the placard says, quite strongly, to NEVER have the shift in forward when sailing and the engine is stopped!
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

Re: prop suddenly turning

Gerhard Mueller
 

I don't know which gearbox your Amel has. But my Sharki has the Hurth HBW20 gearbox and the placard says, quite strongly, to NEVER have the shift in forward when sailing and the engine is stopped!
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

prop suddenly turning

Miles
 


Dear Amelians,
I am heading for Bermuda and then Marinique..  I just noticed that the propeller shaft was turning when I was sailing and the throttle handle was flat forward as Amel said to dol.  I have no shaft break and an AutoProp propeller.  My boat is SM 216.  I have owned it from new.  There is a placard attached to the boat in front of the shift lever.  The placard says, quite strongly, to always have the shift  in forward when sailing and I have always done this.  Just now, I noticed that the shaft was rotating slowly with the gear in forward and the boat going about 5 knots. It was slow and I could stop it with my foot.  Does this mean that the clutches in the transmission were slipping and wearing?   I don't understand how the shaft can turn when it is in gear and the engine is stopped.
I tried putting it in reverse and the shaft stopped.  Doing this means passing through neutral to start the motor.  In neutral, the prop spins fast in reverse and putting the transmission in forward causes a big jerk on the transmission clutches. 
I don't know what to do and I would be grateful for advice.
 Regards,
MIles,
S/Y Ladybug, sm216  350 miles NW of Bermuda.

Infos about Break in the Main Mast Furler

Alexander Hofmann
 

Hi Amel 54 friends,
my main mast furler did block due to corrosion inside, after 8 years of operation. The rubber sealing ring above was broken, and there has been no drain hole in the lower part. Funny. Both Topics are resolved with a new furler (NOT lowcost) from AMEL. I try to repair the old one to have a spare furler onboard.
The break inside the furler in the lower section is strongly corroded and needs repair or replacement. 
I am sure that I am not the first and not the last who has had or will have this problem. 
My question: Does anybody has information and experience about the mechanical parts, the electrical connection, or even where the mechanical parts of this break could be found for purchase?
Thanks for your help!!!
Alexander
SY Oceanica I. Amel 54#156 from 2010

Re: Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Bill,

I would like to buy one for our VP D3-110i-C. Do you know if they also make one for the Onan 11kW genset? I think that one is (even) more subject to corrosion.

Regards,
Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

 

Jeffery,

Great!

HDI will use it to make a mold, then make an investment cast stainless steel elbow for the D3. For those of you that don't know what we are discussing, many marine engines including Yanmar and Volvo have either a cast iron or welded stainless steel exhaust elbow. These almost always fail, and seem to fail at an inconvenient time. I had my Yanmar welded stainless steel elbow fail in Thailand. The Yanmar OEM part cost me Yanmar list price of $500 plus $500 duty. HDI sells an investment cast stainless steel elbow for less than $300.

HDI is a Preferred Vendor of Amel Yacht Owners School. Many Amel owners have added HDI exhaust elbows to their engines. I did. As far as I know, everyone is satisfied and all are very happy with the product and price. I assume that HDI will have the D3-110 part available in 4-6 weeks. The contact information I have is:
HDI Marine Ltd
www.hdimarine.net
Hailey Wilkerson, Director of Marketing

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 1:21 PM JEFFREY KRAUS <jmkraus@...> wrote:
I got it. I replied mine. I'll bring it back with me and send it to you monday



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

-------- Original message --------
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Date: 10/26/19 2:12 PM (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

Yes

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 12:29 PM JEFFREY KRAUS <jmkraus@...> wrote:
Bill, are you looking for the exhaust elbow coming off the turbo?



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

-------- Original message --------
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Date: 10/24/19 1:33 PM (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

If one of you has a Volvo D3-110 exhaust elbow, I could use it. 

As you probably know HDI Marine the manufacturer of Stainless Steel Investment Cast elbows is a Preferred Vendor of Yacht School

I just received an email from HDI asking if I could locate a D3-110 elbow for them to use to make a mold which will allow them to produce a Stainless Steel Investment Cast elbow for the D3-110. If you have an old one in any condition, it will work.

Let me know.

Bill

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

Re: tb/BRISBANE area marina & yard/AYOG

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello All,

Like Danny, I will be in Opua.  Good trades and far better cruising grounds in the Bay of Islands.  Whangerei requires at least 2 hours just to leave the river.

Cheers

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera SM 007, Fiji




On 27 Oct 2019, at 08:15, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Hi Scott. You will get the best rates for haul outs and hard stand in Whangarei. There is competition there. Good trades too. But I do almost all mine in Opua as it is only a day sail south of me, Whangarei is twice that and a two hour drive from home.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

Regards

Danny

On 27 October 2019 at 03:39 islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Hi Scott

Good to hear from you. I hope all is well and that you guys will have another safe sail down to the Caribbean soon.

The Pacific and the Indian Oceans were certainly the highlights of our circumnavigation, with the Pacific being the most beautiful with nice variety, and the certainly totally safe which was a pleasant change for us after some of our experiences. You and Mia will absolutely love it!

Unfortunately, although I have sailed there a few years ago in 2016, I am no expert in terms of New Zealand so I should not try to advise you, however both Danny and Alan on this forum would have excellent advice I am sure are their boats have been there for many years.

Please look us up when you come to Australia. It was a pleasure to meet you both at the Amel Rally this year and I would gladly help if there is anything you need advice on here in Australia.

Best regards
Colin
SV Island Pearl II SM#332
Bundaberg Port Marina
(Now for sale in Australia, with all Australian Import Duty and taxes paid, so the new owner would be allowed to keep it here during the Pacific Cyclone seasons.   Australia is the perfect base from which to easily explore the very best cruising grounds in the world, ie the South Pacific, with a safe easy crossing back and forth to New Caledonia and Fiji each year with the Downunder Rally as you build your sailing confidence before sailing Asia and the Indian Ocean.  Contact me if interested on svislandpearl@... )

On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 12:25 AM Scott SV Tengah < Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Congrats Colin! You guys did make it a good ways since we met at the Amel rally in Martinique! We're just in DC. :)

That said, we'll be heading your way and likely arrive in your part of the world by November 2020. Most likely spend typhoon season in NZ and then back to the South Pacific for a second season in 2021 as we have heard nothing but positive things about it.

Any idea about reasonably priced dry dock in NZ? We will likely get off the boat for a bit and buy a car to travel around.

Mie and I have both spent time in Australia, so we're hoping to explore NZ this time, but you never know, we may make it over to your island, too!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

 

 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

Re: seals orientation

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi. In 11 years and 50,000 miles of using Amel supplied seals I have never had a failure, and the springs have never been rusty on removal.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 27 October 2019 at 08:02 "Arnold Mente via Groups.Io" <Arnold.mente@...> wrote:

Hi Craig,

 have received the seals loosely in the envelope.
1.4301 / V2A / 304 is not seawater resistant. Only 1.4571 / V4A / 316 with 2% molybdenum (is pure austenitic) is seawater resistant and non-magnetic! For example, this is why surveyors use a magnet to test the stainless steel components of a yacht.
Otherwise my education would have been wrong.
I would like to see it differently, but with an austenitic steel one finds no magnetism through the transformation of the structure from ferritic to austenitic. In cheap stainless steel parts for yachts produced in the Far East, it often happens that these are made of 304. I have no intention of questioning the delivery of Amel. But why is the spring magnetic? Shaft seals with 316 springs are also difficult to obtain, as my research has shown so far. With 304 on the oil side, I have no problems but the seawater side worries me.

Best, Arnold

Am 26.10.2019 um 19:18 schrieb Craig Briggs SN 68 Sangaris via Groups.Io < sangaris@...>:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Arnold,
I assume when you say the springs of the Amel supplied lip seals were magnetic you (or your mechanic) concluded they were not Stainless Steel and therefore you replaced them with O-rings. Actually, Stainless Steel is slightly magnetic and the very thin and lightweight Stainless Steel springs in lip seals will "stick" to a magnet - therefore the "test" your mechanic performed was not definitive.

You must rely on the manufacturers specification - there is a Code letter that specifies Stainless Steel Garter Springs. Carbon Steel is usually the default, so you must specifically order stainless steel garter spring. I am sure Amel supplied the correct lip seal and that it did, indeed, have a stainless steel spring. If I recall correctly, Amel ships the lip seals in the manufacturer's box - if so you could check the part number on the box, if you still have it, and see that it indeed is a Stainless Steel Garter Spring.

Cheers, Craig

Arnold Mente

Urbaniweg 12
7000 Eisenstadt 

Tel: +43 660 6699019

arnold.mente@...




 


--
SY Zephyr SM203


 

Re: tb/BRISBANE area marina & yard/AYOG

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Scott. You will get the best rates for haul outs and hard stand in Whangarei. There is competition there. Good trades too. But I do almost all mine in Opua as it is only a day sail south of me, Whangarei is twice that and a two hour drive from home.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

Regards

Danny

On 27 October 2019 at 03:39 islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Hi Scott

Good to hear from you. I hope all is well and that you guys will have another safe sail down to the Caribbean soon.

The Pacific and the Indian Oceans were certainly the highlights of our circumnavigation, with the Pacific being the most beautiful with nice variety, and the certainly totally safe which was a pleasant change for us after some of our experiences. You and Mia will absolutely love it!

Unfortunately, although I have sailed there a few years ago in 2016, I am no expert in terms of New Zealand so I should not try to advise you, however both Danny and Alan on this forum would have excellent advice I am sure are their boats have been there for many years.

Please look us up when you come to Australia. It was a pleasure to meet you both at the Amel Rally this year and I would gladly help if there is anything you need advice on here in Australia.

Best regards
Colin
SV Island Pearl II SM#332
Bundaberg Port Marina
(Now for sale in Australia, with all Australian Import Duty and taxes paid, so the new owner would be allowed to keep it here during the Pacific Cyclone seasons.   Australia is the perfect base from which to easily explore the very best cruising grounds in the world, ie the South Pacific, with a safe easy crossing back and forth to New Caledonia and Fiji each year with the Downunder Rally as you build your sailing confidence before sailing Asia and the Indian Ocean.  Contact me if interested on svislandpearl@... )

On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 12:25 AM Scott SV Tengah < Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Congrats Colin! You guys did make it a good ways since we met at the Amel rally in Martinique! We're just in DC. :)

That said, we'll be heading your way and likely arrive in your part of the world by November 2020. Most likely spend typhoon season in NZ and then back to the South Pacific for a second season in 2021 as we have heard nothing but positive things about it.

Any idea about reasonably priced dry dock in NZ? We will likely get off the boat for a bit and buy a car to travel around.

Mie and I have both spent time in Australia, so we're hoping to explore NZ this time, but you never know, we may make it over to your island, too!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

 

 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

Re: seals orientation

Arnold Mente
 

Hi Craig,

 have received the seals loosely in the envelope.
1.4301 / V2A / 304 is not seawater resistant. Only 1.4571 / V4A / 316 with 2% molybdenum (is pure austenitic) is seawater resistant and non-magnetic! For example, this is why surveyors use a magnet to test the stainless steel components of a yacht.
Otherwise my education would have been wrong.
I would like to see it differently, but with an austenitic steel one finds no magnetism through the transformation of the structure from ferritic to austenitic. In cheap stainless steel parts for yachts produced in the Far East, it often happens that these are made of 304. I have no intention of questioning the delivery of Amel. But why is the spring magnetic? Shaft seals with 316 springs are also difficult to obtain, as my research has shown so far. With 304 on the oil side, I have no problems but the seawater side worries me.

Best, Arnold

Am 26.10.2019 um 19:18 schrieb Craig Briggs SN 68 Sangaris via Groups.Io <sangaris@...>:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Arnold,
I assume when you say the springs of the Amel supplied lip seals were magnetic you (or your mechanic) concluded they were not Stainless Steel and therefore you replaced them with O-rings. Actually, Stainless Steel is slightly magnetic and the very thin and lightweight Stainless Steel springs in lip seals will "stick" to a magnet - therefore the "test" your mechanic performed was not definitive.

You must rely on the manufacturers specification - there is a Code letter that specifies Stainless Steel Garter Springs. Carbon Steel is usually the default, so you must specifically order stainless steel garter spring. I am sure Amel supplied the correct lip seal and that it did, indeed, have a stainless steel spring. If I recall correctly, Amel ships the lip seals in the manufacturer's box - if so you could check the part number on the box, if you still have it, and see that it indeed is a Stainless Steel Garter Spring.

Cheers, Craig

Arnold Mente

Urbaniweg 12
7000 Eisenstadt 

Tel: +43 660 6699019

arnold.mente@...




--
SY Zephyr SM203

Re: Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

I got it. I replied mine. I'll bring it back with me and send it to you monday



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

-------- Original message --------
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Date: 10/26/19 2:12 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

Yes

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 12:29 PM JEFFREY KRAUS <jmkraus@...> wrote:
Bill, are you looking for the exhaust elbow coming off the turbo?



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

-------- Original message --------
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Date: 10/24/19 1:33 PM (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

If one of you has a Volvo D3-110 exhaust elbow, I could use it. 

As you probably know HDI Marine the manufacturer of Stainless Steel Investment Cast elbows is a Preferred Vendor of Yacht School

I just received an email from HDI asking if I could locate a D3-110 elbow for them to use to make a mold which will allow them to produce a Stainless Steel Investment Cast elbow for the D3-110. If you have an old one in any condition, it will work.

Let me know.

Bill

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

Re: Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

 

Yes

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019, 12:29 PM JEFFREY KRAUS <jmkraus@...> wrote:
Bill, are you looking for the exhaust elbow coming off the turbo?



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From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Date: 10/24/19 1:33 PM (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3 - 110 Exhaust Elbow needed

If one of you has a Volvo D3-110 exhaust elbow, I could use it. 

As you probably know HDI Marine the manufacturer of Stainless Steel Investment Cast elbows is a Preferred Vendor of Yacht School

I just received an email from HDI asking if I could locate a D3-110 elbow for them to use to make a mold which will allow them to produce a Stainless Steel Investment Cast elbow for the D3-110. If you have an old one in any condition, it will work.

Let me know.

Bill

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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

Re: Yanmar Diesel Won't Stay Running

eric freedman
 

 

 

Coming across the Atlantic we had the same problem. I decided it was a problem with something blocking the tank. I took off the

Hose leading to the tank and put it into the bell of the ships horn. When I heard bubbling I stopped.

When I got to the USA, I drained the tank. Behind the fuel valve Amel mounted a screen. On Kimberlite you need a very thin wrench to remove the valve, it used to be called a tappet wrench.

My tank inspection ports were sealed with blue silicone.

Pieces of the blue silicone were blocking fuel flow,  I flushed the tank and ran it through a filter to get out the blue stuff. Permatex recommends Moto Seal for replacing the tank gaskets. It is used on motorcycle gear boxes and is meant to be easily disassembled to change the gears om Motos for different tracks.

 

This is very unique and if all else fails possibly this is the problem, however I think it is something much simpler.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Garver via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 2:48 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Yanmar Diesel Won't Stay Running

 

The mechanic at the marina asked the same question about the auto-shutdown feature, so he's investigating that. I am about to pump some fuel from the bottom of the tank to check for water. I will also check for a vacuum on the fuel line, that's a good idea. 

 

Thanks!

 

Mark

S/V It's Good

SM #105


On October 24, 2019 at 12:58 PM, John Clark <john.biohead@...> wrote:

My first thought is also fuel supply.  One time we started our engine with the fuel shut off valve closed...she ran perfect then just quit.  I can see the engine pulling a vacuum on the fuel line stalling ...then as the vacuum leaks off being able to restart.  

 

Now my second thought is based on you saying it was a new engine.   Does the engine have any automatic shutdown features like the genset?  Recall the genset has a host of conditions that will cause the machine to shutdown.  Just owndering if the new engine presumably with a computer is doing something on it's own.

 

John

SV Annie SM37

Brunswick GA

 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:58 AM Mark Garver via Groups.Io <mgarver=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Mark,

 

Unfortunately not. But I think I can put a hose in the bottom of the tank and pump some out to see. At least that is the current plan as well as ensuring the filter is clean.

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

S/V It's Good

SM #105


On October 24, 2019 at 10:30 AM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Mark,

 

You have a fuel problem. Do you have a filtration system that allows you to check for water?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

http://www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Garver via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 8:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Yanmar Diesel Won't Stay Running

 

It's been several months since my wife and I left our boat up in the Chesapeake and upon arrival today to have it hauled for a long over due cleaning. The Yanmar diesel fired right up, but then after a couple of minutes dies. Wait a couple of minutes and it fires right up again, runs for a couple of minutes and shuts off. It runs smoothly and fires up instantly so it doesn't sound like she's starving for fuel or air. The engine only has 30 hours and has be very reliable.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

S/V It's Good

SM #105