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Re: main sail furler gear box maramu 1986

Philippe BELLOIR
 

precision. i found this photo see attachement
at the step 2, impossible to go up enough to liberate the swivel.
The slot on the furling tube in the mast is just in front (i take the sail out)
any advise, solution,
thank yyou
Philippe


Re: Anchor sizing

Courtney Gorman
 

FYI delos did modify their anchor roller to accept the Mantus


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Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2020 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Anchor sizing

From mostly what I have read the Mantus actors are one of the best and a solid choice in any anchoring conditions. Not heard a negative thing about them. Delos put a "80lb" or thereabout one on and it fit the SM2k bow. I have also heard the Mantus swivels are the swivels of choice. Not cheap for any of it but that is one area where I will not go cheap to save a buck. Peace of mind so to speak. Hope this helps


SEAFLO Marine Air Conditioning Seawater Circulation AC Pump 500GPH 220V eBay

ngtnewington Newington
 

Has anyone tried this Seaflo air con circulating pump?

It is the magnetic type, so no risk of leaks.
My existing one is a big beast and still works but a bit fragile now.
According to the labels on the Units I need 3 x 9 litres per minute. So 27 which is less than this one..


Re: Onan MDKAL Generator Fuel Solenoid SM2000

Steve Bell s/y Dusk SM378
 

Hi Mike.
              Since we purchased Dusk and the  the previous owners have  had start problems with the genset .

They even had parrelled a smaller battery next to the genset which helped but in hindsight was not a good idea as the batteries were not the same.rating and the smaller battery was being overcharged so i was determined to try and resolve the problem.

I had the genset serviced and had the fuel.pump negative solenoid  terminal block all replaced  which seemed.to.fix the problem however within 24hrs i was back to square one.

The owner of the company who serviced the genset was extremely embarrassed and personally came out to try and find the problem. 2hrs later the problem seems.to be solved and bolied down to a faulty k3 relay for.the pre heat plugs as we are in the  meditterean he said it was not neccassary to pre heat the plugs with he present weather conditions  so he removed it and suggested i buy a new one when i got the chance he suggested to try and get a 70amp one as opposed to the present 30amp one

For 3.months we have not had a problem starting the genset with the realy removed whilst this may not be your problem it may be worthwhile removing the relay and trying it out.

We purchased a new relay for 7 euro


regards
steve
s/y Dusk




locked Re: Batteries starting to get weak - MMM - What to do -

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He good morning
You use 200 AH at ancor ? It ist too much we need 120 Ah in summer in greece .
What yo have running ?
When i at see i woud take a hydro generator .

Best Elja
SM Balu 222





Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Re: Anchor sizing

Craig Briggs
 

Love my Mantus and would never switch (unless a new new thing comes out), but one time it was so solidly set that the shank bent about 30° while retrieving it in the morning after an overnight current and wind shift. It was so well set that the windlass couldn't break it out and I had to motor directly over it and needed some substantial rpms to break it free. So even at a 1:1 scope it was still holding like crazy. (No rocks - just hard mud in the ICW off Mar-A-Lago.) They sent me a new shank at no cost. They are a super anchor, but nothing's bullet proof. The Mantus T-shirt rocks, though.
Cheers, Craig -- SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


locked Re: Batteries starting to get weak - MMM - What to do -

Sheriffdep
 

Thank you Scott for the additional information!!!!!

Going back to basics for this topic:

1. Building a bank out of cells - from what I can see the really good cells that can be bought and put together (Will Prowse website) costs are around 1k for a 24v 100ah battery. However not sure how things add up with other cells. Plus adding a good BMS and a separate Battery Conditioner to wire to the investor for higher amp loads etc... price seems to be about half of the BB 400ah 24v setup. 

Questions for that - is it worth doing all the setup yourself and not entirely having the warranty for 10yrs to save maybe half or less? I am all for DIY and can learn to do it but my goal would be to get much more amp hr's for less or similar money but have at least the same known reliability. 

2. I am understanding the LFEPO4 batts should be kept between 80% and 30%. so that turns a 400ah bank into a 200ah useful plus whatever solar you may have. From my calculations on a SM2k I would be using at anchor without using the AC around 200ah per day.  It seems with the electronics running for passage you would add another 150ah + to your daily use. (chart plotter is 5ah so 2x of them would be 100ah for the day). Also if you increase the bank size you then would be using less cycles than if you didn't increase it. 

The LFEPO4 batteries claim 80%SOC at the end of 3K cycles +.  From several YouTube boats showing a year on the LFEPO4 batts and having around 1k solar watts they showed using approximately 115 cycles for that year. That would mean 10yrs or so for 1k cycles. Batts mathematically should last at least 30yrs at the same rate. 

Ok we don't trust them that much and they haven't been around long enough but doing the math nothing even comes close to comparing. It seems a no brainer to go with them but now the choice for most of us is whether we DIY a bank or go the BB route. 


Re: Anchor sizing

Sheriffdep
 

From mostly what I have read the Mantus actors are one of the best and a solid choice in any anchoring conditions. Not heard a negative thing about them. Delos put a "80lb" or thereabout one on and it fit the SM2k bow. I have also heard the Mantus swivels are the swivels of choice. Not cheap for any of it but that is one area where I will not go cheap to save a buck. Peace of mind so to speak. Hope this helps


Re: Anchor sizing

Bryce Procter
 

Hi Tuen,

If you purchase the chain within 60 days of departure you should also be able to claim back the 10% GST.

Cheers

Bryce


Re: Mango fuel filter question

Craig Briggs
 

Hi James & Arlo,
It's not an issue as I don't think Arlo is looking for a replacement, but the CAV unit James linked is quite different and doesn't have the "sedimenter sensor"  as the Perkins version does. These units are actually labeled as Perkins parts with their blue logo (certainly manufactured for Perkins). I suspect they are discontinued, but any brand with an electric sedimenter sensor would work if you needed it.
Cheers, Craig -- SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Onan MDKAL Generator Fuel Solenoid SM2000

Mark Erdos
 

It should be noted that in the Onan instructions and on the remote start
switch it states 20 seconds in the maximum for the pre-heat.


With best regards,

Mark

Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia
www.creampuff.us

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Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 9:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan MDKAL Generator Fuel Solenoid SM2000

Hi Mike,
When I bought the boat the previous owner told me that the generator needed
to be preheated for at least 20 seconds. I do that every time and it starts
every time. I hope this helps you.
Hi Mike,
When I bought the boat the previous owner told me that the generator needed
to be preheated for at least 20 seconds. I do that every time and it starts
every time. I hope this helps you.


Solenoid question

smiles bernard
 

Hello all
I have a question that i am struggling with and wondered if the amel hive mind could shed some light.
I recently disconnected all batteries and solar
I then reconnected and seem to have lost control of my windlass and furler solenoids.

The furler is the easiest to access the electrics on so I’ve been rummaging about with a multimeter

The solenoid has power
The Control switches in the cockpit have power
The Cable from these cockpit switches to the solenoid control terminals is continuous. No inline fuses that I can see and in good shape yet the voltage at these solenoid terminals is <1 volt when the switches are activated.

I have yet to try and feed 12v to the solenoid control terminals direct but can’t think how I’m getting the almost complete voltage drop.

The windlass solenoid is in the same locker in the forepeak. I’ve tested it less but again it has power yet is not working.

Bit flummoxed
Any thoughts or suggestions most welcome

Perhaps I caused a voltage surge reconnecting my batteries? But no fuses in the control lines that I can see.

All the very best

Miles
Maramu 162


Re: Mango fuel filter question

smiles bernard
 

Hi there 
Yes I also have one in my maramu + Perkins M65
Just a water filter & no cartridge to replace 
On our boat this then leads to a dual spin on primary filter unit and then finally onto the secondary Engine mounted filter 
I just drain it occasionally into a glass jar and see what’s lurking in the bowl. So far it’s always been clean btw. 
All the best
Miles


On 14 Sep 2020, at 20:00, James Alton via groups.io <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:

Arlo,

  My apologies.  After taking a closer look, I think that Craig is correct that what you have is a fuel water separator that does not have a filter inside.  I was looking at the top portion of your photo which looks identical to the filter housing that I have on my boat but the bottom part of yours does look different than mine.   I believe that this link shows what you have:  https://www.asap-supplies.com/products/drive-force-cav-fuel-separator-45lph-alloy-bowl-302005  

Best,

James Alton



On Sep 14, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

Hello there. So I am.looking to change my fuel filters (routine service) and I  have no idea what the original Amel fuel system used for this filter. I have already changed the one on the engine but not this little gem...I have a Mango. Any ideas ? It is attached to the tank selector valve <20200914_094926.jpg><20200914_094918.jpg>


Re: Bow-thruster repair at anchor

Paul Osterberg
 

Grant thank you! 
I ordered from Maud at Amel, where I order most of the spare parts 
Paul 


Re: Anchor sizing

Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
 

If you use your anchor and chain in saltwater with 25 deg.Celcius I would recommend galvanised anchor chain, otherwise your chain will look nice but will have pinhole damages and will break with obvious outside good looking. Spare the money for stainless steal and buy some jewellery for your wife/friend,
Wolfgang Weber(Germany) SY Elise Amel 54#162(Fort Lauderdale) 






Re: Onan MDKAL Generator Fuel Solenoid SM2000

Jose Venegas
 

Hi Mike,
When I bought the boat the previous owner told me that the generator needed to be preheated for at least 20 seconds. I do that every time and it starts every time. I hope this helps you.
Hi Mike,
When I bought the boat the previous owner told me that the generator needed to be preheated for at least 20 seconds. I do that every time and it starts every time. I hope this helps you.


Re: Mango fuel filter question

James Alton
 

Arlo,

  My apologies.  After taking a closer look, I think that Craig is correct that what you have is a fuel water separator that does not have a filter inside.  I was looking at the top portion of your photo which looks identical to the filter housing that I have on my boat but the bottom part of yours does look different than mine.   I believe that this link shows what you have:  https://www.asap-supplies.com/products/drive-force-cav-fuel-separator-45lph-alloy-bowl-302005  

Best,

James Alton



On Sep 14, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

Hello there. So I am.looking to change my fuel filters (routine service) and I  have no idea what the original Amel fuel system used for this filter. I have already changed the one on the engine but not this little gem...I have a Mango. Any ideas ? It is attached to the tank selector valve <20200914_094926.jpg><20200914_094918.jpg>


Re: change standing rigging SM

Aras Grinius
 

There is a wealth of info on the Amel Blogs.  Also Bill Rouse is a great resource.

Aras
Sharki #163 1988


On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 11:55 AM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:
Hi;

We used ACMO France that supplies AMEL. They have all the information on all the boats originally supplied and were very professional and responsive. The rigging arrived in good condition and to exact measurements. If there are any upgrades that AMEL may have done throughout the years, they are aware of them and will ship per the latest design. I would recommend them. The price for the total rigging materials was in the 12-13K Euros of the A54. I do not know the pricing for the SM. If you are in the Med, I would highly recommend Nicky Sammut for the installation. He is based out of Malta, is fast and professional and will travel. Good luck.

Happy Sailing;


Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Seckin Barlas via groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 8:19 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] change standing rigging SM

Dear Friends;

I want to change my standing rigging of my SM#76.
She about 28 years old and haven’t changed yet - unfortunately.

Do you have any recommendations for me?

Can you please share the parts list?
Prices?
Is it better to prefer original Amel? Or shall I find some aftermarket solutions?

I appreciate for all your valuable responses in advance… Seckin HAYAT SM#76












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Aras Grinius


Re: Mango fuel filter question

Craig Briggs
 
Edited

Hi Arlo,
That looks like a filter but it is actually a Perkins pre-filter water separator (no filter inside). It has two wires coming out the bottom from a "fuel sedimenter sensor" that activates your water-in-diesel alarm. For maintenance just pop it open and clean it out. Check the wire connections while you're at it. For fun you can put some water on the sensor and see if your alarm goes off. 
Cheers --
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


main sail furler gear box maramu 1986

Philippe BELLOIR
 

It s an oil leak from the bottom of the gear
box. I found some informations how to fix it.
But I can t take the gear box out of the mast... Help!!!
Thank you all of you,
Philippe

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