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Cold and hot water distribution

rossny@mail.com
 

Hi All, Maramu1989 -I have noticed some rigid tubing among the many hoses coming from the manifolds, is this the original? are they known to leak? Most were bypassed with plastic. When I rip out the water heater to replace it I might as well re-do the plumbing. Suggestions?
Any experience with ProPex?
Thanks,
Ross


Re: hydrovane - self steering

eric <ericmeury@...>
 

Dave,

that would be great. We are fairly certain we will be purchasing a maramu and would like to see the other options for self steering.


Thanks

Eric J.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

Eric,

I have heard a lot more negative feedback about Hydrovane than positive. Some of the people I've spoken with are professional captains and I don't take their comments likely.

I'll invite Yves Gallinas of Cape Horn windvanes to visit our boat if he is participating in the boat show in April. His product was designed from the outset to work without control lines.

There are also windvanes that utilize a trim tab on the end of the rudder. I think rudder failure is far less likely on an Amel than almost any other cruising boat. I've yet to hear of one occurring. If you suffered an impact heavy enough to damage the skeg or ruddershaft, my suspicion is you'd have more to worry about than steering.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eric" <ericmeury@> wrote:

Gaza, that seems like a pretty good solution.

Dave, yes the problem with many windvanes requires lines going to the cockpit. The hydrovane does not require any lines to be attached to the steering, there are no lines or any blocks, nor does the hyrdovane attach to the rudder or quardrant in any way.

In my view, this is superior because in case of a failure it will act as your primary rudder. (while i agree, i have never heard of a broken rudder on any amel..but anything is possible is suppose)

The company sent me some pictures of the hyrdovane on a maramu and on a santorin. It does not look like it would limit the use of the stern for boarding for either the maramu or the newer amels. It doesn't look like it is offset either.

If anybody is interested, email me at eric@ and i will fwd the emails.

not trying to sound like a sales person for the company, but there are 196 seperate testimonials on their site. I found one from an amel owner.

http://www.hydrovane.com/TestimonialEmails.html?page=4 (halfway down)

In any case, it would seems to me that any windvane would be a great purchase even if one had full confidence in the electronic autopilots, i would imagine an electric failure would be more likely than losing a rudder. Steering by hand with the emergency tiller or the wheel by yourself or with others for a long passages doesn't sound like much fun.

Eric J.


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@> wrote:


From my perspective, here's the reasons we don't see more windvanes on Amel sailboats. Incidentally, I have not heard many good reports about Hydrovane. In fact the people I've spoken to have not been happy with their choice. I would be more likely to look at Cape Horn vanes if I wanted the option to connect directly to the quadrant.

1. Center cockpit boats don't lend themselves to windvane self steering. It's a long way to the wheel and a lot of friction can be introduced in to the system.

2. For older Amels like ours, the windvane would make it all but impossible to use the stern for boarding. In choppy anchorages of Pacific Mexico we frequently board from the stern. On a newer Amel with swim step it would be an awkward install. Off center mounting is generally not a good idea in my opinion. People don't want to lose the swim step.

3. Better VMG with a high end electronic pilot.

4. Many Amels have two AP's installed and find them to be generally reliable.

5. Many production boats lose steering due to inadequate design and construction. I am not aware of any Amels losing steerage while underway. I'd be interested in knowing if there have been any steering failures not due to impact.


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eric" <ericmeury@> wrote:

After reading that a few boats lost their steering in the NARC rally i started doing some reseach on emergency rudder system and while i knew about wind vane steering systems i came across this product.

http://www.hydrovane.com/Introduction.html

I'm still boatless and probably will be for a few more years, but enjoy the "research".

I imagine that most super maramu's do not have a wind vane system, but has anybody thought about putting this particular system on their boat. This particular one does not require any lines to the wheel nor does it attach to the rudder.

Thoughts? experience?


Re: hydrovane - self steering

Dave_Benjamin
 

Eric,

I have heard a lot more negative feedback about Hydrovane than positive. Some of the people I've spoken with are professional captains and I don't take their comments likely.

I'll invite Yves Gallinas of Cape Horn windvanes to visit our boat if he is participating in the boat show in April. His product was designed from the outset to work without control lines.

There are also windvanes that utilize a trim tab on the end of the rudder. I think rudder failure is far less likely on an Amel than almost any other cruising boat. I've yet to hear of one occurring. If you suffered an impact heavy enough to damage the skeg or ruddershaft, my suspicion is you'd have more to worry about than steering.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eric" <ericmeury@...> wrote:

Gaza, that seems like a pretty good solution.

Dave, yes the problem with many windvanes requires lines going to the cockpit. The hydrovane does not require any lines to be attached to the steering, there are no lines or any blocks, nor does the hyrdovane attach to the rudder or quardrant in any way.

In my view, this is superior because in case of a failure it will act as your primary rudder. (while i agree, i have never heard of a broken rudder on any amel..but anything is possible is suppose)

The company sent me some pictures of the hyrdovane on a maramu and on a santorin. It does not look like it would limit the use of the stern for boarding for either the maramu or the newer amels. It doesn't look like it is offset either.

If anybody is interested, email me at eric@... and i will fwd the emails.

not trying to sound like a sales person for the company, but there are 196 seperate testimonials on their site. I found one from an amel owner.

http://www.hydrovane.com/TestimonialEmails.html?page=4 (halfway down)

In any case, it would seems to me that any windvane would be a great purchase even if one had full confidence in the electronic autopilots, i would imagine an electric failure would be more likely than losing a rudder. Steering by hand with the emergency tiller or the wheel by yourself or with others for a long passages doesn't sound like much fun.

Eric J.


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@> wrote:


From my perspective, here's the reasons we don't see more windvanes on Amel sailboats. Incidentally, I have not heard many good reports about Hydrovane. In fact the people I've spoken to have not been happy with their choice. I would be more likely to look at Cape Horn vanes if I wanted the option to connect directly to the quadrant.

1. Center cockpit boats don't lend themselves to windvane self steering. It's a long way to the wheel and a lot of friction can be introduced in to the system.

2. For older Amels like ours, the windvane would make it all but impossible to use the stern for boarding. In choppy anchorages of Pacific Mexico we frequently board from the stern. On a newer Amel with swim step it would be an awkward install. Off center mounting is generally not a good idea in my opinion. People don't want to lose the swim step.

3. Better VMG with a high end electronic pilot.

4. Many Amels have two AP's installed and find them to be generally reliable.

5. Many production boats lose steering due to inadequate design and construction. I am not aware of any Amels losing steerage while underway. I'd be interested in knowing if there have been any steering failures not due to impact.


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eric" <ericmeury@> wrote:

After reading that a few boats lost their steering in the NARC rally i started doing some reseach on emergency rudder system and while i knew about wind vane steering systems i came across this product.

http://www.hydrovane.com/Introduction.html

I'm still boatless and probably will be for a few more years, but enjoy the "research".

I imagine that most super maramu's do not have a wind vane system, but has anybody thought about putting this particular system on their boat. This particular one does not require any lines to the wheel nor does it attach to the rudder.

Thoughts? experience?


Re: [Amel] Freshwater pump

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

Hi Richard, likewise….a great holiday and New Year. Hope you get the SM sold to some lucky new owner. SM Sea Fever of Cuan pulled in next to me at Jolly Harbor she is the equal of the 54 for sure. The owner Trevor Lusty was more than gracious in his advice and help as we began the process of learning the Amel. He too had ditched the original pump. I am going to continue to study the market and get an on demand pump. Practical Sailor seems to recommend the Johnson Aqua Jet Flow Master 5.0 WPS. Out of curiosity I called Groco on the BIG brass model that was recommended for the 50’ boats. They had the advice that I needed more pressure and gpm to run a boat that big. I know that it is unlikely that I will have all the facets running at the same time so it is probably overkill.





From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard03801
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:13 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Freshwater pump





Hi Duncan And Happy Holidays
We have used a sur flow 24 volt on demand pump on both are AMELs for years. We did away with the expansion tank as well it is a very neat easy and lot amp solution.

Regards SM 209 for sale in comfort in AnnPolis.

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!!!

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Dec 22, 2011, at 15:36, "wdhagemeyer" <wdhagemeyer@gmail.com <mailto:wdhagemeyer%40gmail.com> > wrote:

Having spent 10 days aboard my Amel 54 Dreamtime II I have to report to the group that she far exceded my expectations. The Amel is an impressive boat even at anchor. Buying 'blind' was not such a bad ideas after all.

She had laid up for over 2.5 years and there were/are issues with some of the electrical components. I have an electrician going over her right now to repair/replace anythink that is suspect.

This brings me to the issue at hand, when we turned on the fresh water and opened the faucets the pump worked. Within hours it did not. After a couple of day it was more likely it would not work than it would. And the voltage on the batteries was pretty consistant between 26-27 volts.

Preface Note, we did a cleaning and exchange of about 400 l of water that had been left in the tank. We bleached and then put some vinegar into the tank, but never took it back to more than half full.

I inspected the fresh water pump and it was marked 12 volts. A surprise. When it ran it was quiet and it sounds good. When it worked the water flow was adequate with on faucet open. Inadequate with two.

My question is; can there be a prime problem, or some airlock before the pump? I ask that since there seems to be a syphon effect that will cause the pump to spontaneously run with an open faucet after a maybe a half hour to longer?

If one were to replace this system should one go with a self priming pump? An how far down is the drop to access the water level. I was thinking that it must be 7 fee to the bottom of the tankage.

Thanks,

Duncan







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Re: [Amel] Freshwater pump

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Duncan And Happy Holidays
We have used a sur flow 24 volt on demand pump on both are AMELs for years. We did away with the expansion tank as well it is a very neat easy and lot amp solution.

Regards SM 209 for sale in comfort in AnnPolis.

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!!!

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Dec 22, 2011, at 15:36, "wdhagemeyer" <wdhagemeyer@gmail.com> wrote:

Having spent 10 days aboard my Amel 54 Dreamtime II I have to report to the group that she far exceded my expectations. The Amel is an impressive boat even at anchor. Buying 'blind' was not such a bad ideas after all.

She had laid up for over 2.5 years and there were/are issues with some of the electrical components. I have an electrician going over her right now to repair/replace anythink that is suspect.

This brings me to the issue at hand, when we turned on the fresh water and opened the faucets the pump worked. Within hours it did not. After a couple of day it was more likely it would not work than it would. And the voltage on the batteries was pretty consistant between 26-27 volts.

Preface Note, we did a cleaning and exchange of about 400 l of water that had been left in the tank. We bleached and then put some vinegar into the tank, but never took it back to more than half full.

I inspected the fresh water pump and it was marked 12 volts. A surprise. When it ran it was quiet and it sounds good. When it worked the water flow was adequate with on faucet open. Inadequate with two.

My question is; can there be a prime problem, or some airlock before the pump? I ask that since there seems to be a syphon effect that will cause the pump to spontaneously run with an open faucet after a maybe a half hour to longer?

If one were to replace this system should one go with a self priming pump? An how far down is the drop to access the water level. I was thinking that it must be 7 fee to the bottom of the tankage.

Thanks,

Duncan


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: hydrovane - self steering

eric <ericmeury@...>
 

Gaza, that seems like a pretty good solution.

Dave, yes the problem with many windvanes requires lines going to the cockpit. The hydrovane does not require any lines to be attached to the steering, there are no lines or any blocks, nor does the hyrdovane attach to the rudder or quardrant in any way.

In my view, this is superior because in case of a failure it will act as your primary rudder. (while i agree, i have never heard of a broken rudder on any amel..but anything is possible is suppose)

The company sent me some pictures of the hyrdovane on a maramu and on a santorin. It does not look like it would limit the use of the stern for boarding for either the maramu or the newer amels. It doesn't look like it is offset either.

If anybody is interested, email me at eric@meurygroup.com and i will fwd the emails.

not trying to sound like a sales person for the company, but there are 196 seperate testimonials on their site. I found one from an amel owner.

http://www.hydrovane.com/TestimonialEmails.html?page=4 (halfway down)

In any case, it would seems to me that any windvane would be a great purchase even if one had full confidence in the electronic autopilots, i would imagine an electric failure would be more likely than losing a rudder. Steering by hand with the emergency tiller or the wheel by yourself or with others for a long passages doesn't sound like much fun.

Eric J.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:


From my perspective, here's the reasons we don't see more windvanes on Amel sailboats. Incidentally, I have not heard many good reports about Hydrovane. In fact the people I've spoken to have not been happy with their choice. I would be more likely to look at Cape Horn vanes if I wanted the option to connect directly to the quadrant.

1. Center cockpit boats don't lend themselves to windvane self steering. It's a long way to the wheel and a lot of friction can be introduced in to the system.

2. For older Amels like ours, the windvane would make it all but impossible to use the stern for boarding. In choppy anchorages of Pacific Mexico we frequently board from the stern. On a newer Amel with swim step it would be an awkward install. Off center mounting is generally not a good idea in my opinion. People don't want to lose the swim step.

3. Better VMG with a high end electronic pilot.

4. Many Amels have two AP's installed and find them to be generally reliable.

5. Many production boats lose steering due to inadequate design and construction. I am not aware of any Amels losing steerage while underway. I'd be interested in knowing if there have been any steering failures not due to impact.


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eric" <ericmeury@> wrote:

After reading that a few boats lost their steering in the NARC rally i started doing some reseach on emergency rudder system and while i knew about wind vane steering systems i came across this product.

http://www.hydrovane.com/Introduction.html

I'm still boatless and probably will be for a few more years, but enjoy the "research".

I imagine that most super maramu's do not have a wind vane system, but has anybody thought about putting this particular system on their boat. This particular one does not require any lines to the wheel nor does it attach to the rudder.

Thoughts? experience?


Re: hydrovane - self steering

Geza Szabo <rotormail@...>
 

Hi David,

Did you have any problems with water getting in the aft cabin through the
hole where the emergency tiller mounts?
No I didn't. Note that on the Euros the rudder shaft comes all the way out
from the rear cabin roof and it is exposed all the time. Not sure if Amel
changed this on the Maramu or not.

Also Sailomat has a remote control option which works really well. So I can
engage/disengage and set the course from the cockipt.

I just realized that I don't really have a good photo to show how it is set
up, but you can see some details on the following links:

http://www.rotorman.hu/image_viewer.php?qid=159&file=pics/002/im00004274.jpg&file2=pics/002/im00004274.jpg

http://www.rotorman.hu/image_viewer.php?qid=211&file=pics/001/im00001975.jpg&file2=pics/001/im00001975.jpg

http://www.rotorman.hu/image_viewer.php?qid=211&file=pics/001/im00002004.jpg&file2=pics/001/im00002004.jpg

Note that currently I am redesigning the placement of the control lines and
would like to move so I don't have those mounts hanging out from the boat
(it is easy to damage them when docking).


Cheers
Geza
New Zealand, Auckland
SV Rotor
www.rotorman.hu


Freshwater pump

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

Having spent 10 days aboard my Amel 54 Dreamtime II I have to report to the group that she far exceded my expectations. The Amel is an impressive boat even at anchor. Buying 'blind' was not such a bad ideas after all.

She had laid up for over 2.5 years and there were/are issues with some of the electrical components. I have an electrician going over her right now to repair/replace anythink that is suspect.

This brings me to the issue at hand, when we turned on the fresh water and opened the faucets the pump worked. Within hours it did not. After a couple of day it was more likely it would not work than it would. And the voltage on the batteries was pretty consistant between 26-27 volts.

Preface Note, we did a cleaning and exchange of about 400 l of water that had been left in the tank. We bleached and then put some vinegar into the tank, but never took it back to more than half full.

I inspected the fresh water pump and it was marked 12 volts. A surprise. When it ran it was quiet and it sounds good. When it worked the water flow was adequate with on faucet open. Inadequate with two.

My question is; can there be a prime problem, or some airlock before the pump? I ask that since there seems to be a syphon effect that will cause the pump to spontaneously run with an open faucet after a maybe a half hour to longer?

If one were to replace this system should one go with a self priming pump? An how far down is the drop to access the water level. I was thinking that it must be 7 fee to the bottom of the tankage.

Thanks,

Duncan


Re: hydrovane - self steering

Dave_Benjamin
 

Geza,

That's an interesting solution. The only downside I see is not being able to stow a dinghy on top of the aft cabin as some do. Did you have any problems with water getting in the aft cabin through the hole where the emergency tiller mounts? I've only had my emergency steering installed once when we tested it as part of our pre-purchase inspection.

Cheers,
Dave

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Geza Szabo <rotormail@...> wrote:

Hi,

I have an older Amel, the Euros 41, similar like the Maramu but smaller.

I have a Sailomat windwane mounted on the stern in center position. The
exit at the back has been moved to the side so it easy to board (or to pull
in a fish) from behind. I also put a mount for the gangway so I can still
use the gangway, too.

The windwane is connected to the emergency tiller. I choose the model
suitable for boats 50 feet. The Euros is only 41.

Works flawlessly, steered all the way from Croatia to New Zealand.

When I am offshore I want a self steering which does not rely on my
batteries, engine, generator etc. It is a very reassuring feeling. Less
things to worry about.

Cheers

Geza
Auckland, New Zealand
SV Rotor
www.rotorman.hu


From my perspective, here's the reasons we don't see more windvanes on
Amel sailboats. Incidentally, I have not heard many good reports about
Hydrovane. In fact the people I've spoken to have not been happy with their
choice. I would be more likely to look at Cape Horn vanes if I wanted the
option to connect directly to the quadrant.

1. Center cockpit boats don't lend themselves to windvane self steering.
It's a long way to the wheel and a lot of friction can be introduced in to
the system.

2. For older Amels like ours, the windvane would make it all but
impossible to use the stern for boarding. In choppy anchorages of Pacific
Mexico we frequently board from the stern. On a newer Amel with swim step
it would be an awkward install. Off center mounting is generally not a good
idea in my opinion. People don't want to lose the swim step.

3. Better VMG with a high end electronic pilot.
4. Many Amels have two AP's installed and find them to be generally
reliable.

5. Many production boats lose steering due to inadequate design and
construction. I am not aware of any Amels losing steerage while underway.
I'd be interested in knowing if there have been any steering failures not
due to impact.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: hydrovane - self steering

Geza Szabo <rotormail@...>
 

Hi,

I have an older Amel, the Euros 41, similar like the Maramu but smaller.

I have a Sailomat windwane mounted on the stern in center position. The
exit at the back has been moved to the side so it easy to board (or to pull
in a fish) from behind. I also put a mount for the gangway so I can still
use the gangway, too.

The windwane is connected to the emergency tiller. I choose the model
suitable for boats 50 feet. The Euros is only 41.

Works flawlessly, steered all the way from Croatia to New Zealand.

When I am offshore I want a self steering which does not rely on my
batteries, engine, generator etc. It is a very reassuring feeling. Less
things to worry about.

Cheers

Geza
Auckland, New Zealand
SV Rotor
www.rotorman.hu


From my perspective, here's the reasons we don't see more windvanes on
Amel sailboats. Incidentally, I have not heard many good reports about
Hydrovane. In fact the people I've spoken to have not been happy with their
choice. I would be more likely to look at Cape Horn vanes if I wanted the
option to connect directly to the quadrant.

1. Center cockpit boats don't lend themselves to windvane self steering.
It's a long way to the wheel and a lot of friction can be introduced in to
the system.

2. For older Amels like ours, the windvane would make it all but
impossible to use the stern for boarding. In choppy anchorages of Pacific
Mexico we frequently board from the stern. On a newer Amel with swim step
it would be an awkward install. Off center mounting is generally not a good
idea in my opinion. People don't want to lose the swim step.

3. Better VMG with a high end electronic pilot.
4. Many Amels have two AP's installed and find them to be generally
reliable.

5. Many production boats lose steering due to inadequate design and
construction. I am not aware of any Amels losing steerage while underway.
I'd be interested in knowing if there have been any steering failures not
due to impact.


Re: [Amel] circuit breakers

Patrick McAneny
 

Graham, I spent hours looking and found them in a minute on the site you
sent me, Thank You .

Merry Christmas

Pat SM #123

In a message dated 12/22/2011 4:07:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com writes:




Hi Pat,
If they are the same as on our Sharki with a red and green button they are
a French standard unit supplied by NAVIMO.
Have a look here
_http://www.plastimo.com/ecatalogue/gb/catalogue/appli.htm_ (http://www.plastimo.com/ecatalogue/gb/catalogue/appli.htm) and
look up part number 411641 which is a 4A breaker.

Regards
Graham

________________________________
From: Patrick McAneny <_sailw32@aol.com_ (mailto:sailw32@aol.com) >
To: _amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2011, 0:16
Subject: [Amel] circuit breakers


Does anyone know of a source for the two botton type circuit breakers used
on the Amels? Thanks, Pat SM #123

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel] circuit breakers

GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com>
 

Hi Pat,
If they are the same as on our Sharki with a red and green button they are a French standard unit supplied by NAVIMO.
Have a look here   http://www.plastimo.com/ecatalogue/gb/catalogue/appli.htm   and look up part number 411641 which is a 4A breaker.
 
Regards
Graham


________________________________
From: Patrick McAneny <sailw32@aol.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2011, 0:16
Subject: [Amel] circuit breakers


 
Does anyone know of a source for the two botton type circuit breakers used on the Amels? Thanks, Pat SM #123


Re: [Amel] Re: bilge pumps

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Dave, will try that.
Danny 


________________________________
From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2011 12:18 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: bilge pumps


 
Danny,

I'll often use a digital camera on the macro (closeup) setting to capture this sort of information.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all, can anyone help? For this survey I need to know the performance data (Gallons per hour, or litres per hour) for the main electric bilge pump and the manual pump on the SM 2000. Also make and model. I have tried to read this on the pumps but I am not enough of a contortionist to get my eyes where I need them to see it in situ. They are the original pumps.
Thanks and Happy Christmas to you all.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand





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Re: [Amel] Re: bilge pumps

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Bill, much appreciated.
Have a very Happy christmas.
Danny


________________________________
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 1:56 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: bilge pumps


 
Danny,

Check this out in the photos section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1890643196/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

The pump is available at reya.com. There is not much information on the website, but you can try to email Lucy at lucy.kelly"at"reya.com. I have gotten good information from them.

The gear box on this pump is from a Mercedes windshield wiper gear box.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all, can anyone help? For this survey I need to know the performance data (Gallons per hour, or litres per hour) for the main electric bilge pump and the manual pump on the SM 2000. Also make and model. I have tried to read this on the pumps but I am not enough of a contortionist to get my eyes where I need them to see it in situ. They are the original pumps.
Thanks and Happy Christmas to you all.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand



Re: [Amel] circuit breakers

karkauai
 

I couldn't find them and ordered from Amel, Pat.
Merry Christmas
Kent
SM243
KRISTY
Sent from my BlackBerry smartphone powered by Alltel

-----Original Message-----
From: "Patrick McAneny" <sailw32@aol.com>
Sender: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:16:06
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] circuit breakers

Does anyone know of a source for the two botton type circuit breakers used on the Amels? Thanks, Pat SM #123


circuit breakers

Patrick McAneny
 

Does anyone know of a source for the two botton type circuit breakers used on the Amels? Thanks, Pat SM #123


Re: bilge pumps

Dave_Benjamin
 

Danny,

I'll often use a digital camera on the macro (closeup) setting to capture this sort of information.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all, can anyone help? For this survey I need to know the performance data (Gallons per hour, or litres per hour) for the main electric bilge pump and the manual pump on the SM 2000. Also make and model. I have tried to read this on the pumps but I am not enough of a contortionist to get my eyes where I need them to see it in situ. They are the original pumps.
Thanks and Happy Christmas to you all.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

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Re: hydrovane - self steering

Dave_Benjamin
 

From my perspective, here's the reasons we don't see more windvanes on Amel sailboats. Incidentally, I have not heard many good reports about Hydrovane. In fact the people I've spoken to have not been happy with their choice. I would be more likely to look at Cape Horn vanes if I wanted the option to connect directly to the quadrant.

1. Center cockpit boats don't lend themselves to windvane self steering. It's a long way to the wheel and a lot of friction can be introduced in to the system.

2. For older Amels like ours, the windvane would make it all but impossible to use the stern for boarding. In choppy anchorages of Pacific Mexico we frequently board from the stern. On a newer Amel with swim step it would be an awkward install. Off center mounting is generally not a good idea in my opinion. People don't want to lose the swim step.

3. Better VMG with a high end electronic pilot.

4. Many Amels have two AP's installed and find them to be generally reliable.

5. Many production boats lose steering due to inadequate design and construction. I am not aware of any Amels losing steerage while underway. I'd be interested in knowing if there have been any steering failures not due to impact.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eric" <ericmeury@...> wrote:

After reading that a few boats lost their steering in the NARC rally i started doing some reseach on emergency rudder system and while i knew about wind vane steering systems i came across this product.

http://www.hydrovane.com/Introduction.html

I'm still boatless and probably will be for a few more years, but enjoy the "research".

I imagine that most super maramu's do not have a wind vane system, but has anybody thought about putting this particular system on their boat. This particular one does not require any lines to the wheel nor does it attach to the rudder.

Thoughts? experience?


Re: bilge pumps

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Danny,

Check this out in the photos section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1890643196/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

The pump is available at reya.com. There is not much information on the website, but you can try to email Lucy at lucy.kelly"at"reya.com. I have gotten good information from them.

The gear box on this pump is from a Mercedes windshield wiper gear box.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all, can anyone help? For this survey I need to know the performance data (Gallons per hour, or litres per hour) for the main electric bilge pump and the manual pump on the SM 2000. Also make and model. I have tried to read this on the pumps but I am not enough of a contortionist to get my eyes where I need them to see it in situ. They are the original pumps.
Thanks and Happy Christmas to you all.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

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bilge pumps

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all, can anyone help? For this survey I need to know the performance data (Gallons per hour, or litres per hour) for the main electric bilge pump and the manual pump on the SM 2000. Also make and model. I have tried to read this on the pumps but I am not enough of a contortionist to get my eyes where I need them to see it in situ. They are the original pumps.
Thanks and Happy Christmas to you all.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand