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Organization original posts - Photo uploads...some thoughts

eric meury <ericmeury@...>
 

--- On Wed, 12/7/11, Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com> wrote:

From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>
Subject: [Amel] Photo uploads...some thoughts
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 4:14 AM
















 









I believe one of the more valuable sections of this website is the photo section where we can all share photos of particular maintenance issues and solutions. The problem is that we do not follow a logical or pre-planned method of posting photos and Yahoo does not provide a search of photos. Additionally, the only thing that the owner/moderator can do is delete a photo or an album...he cannot move things around. And, lastly the only thing Yahoo does for us is to sort the album based on Album name...most of you see the problem this presents in naming an album incorrectly or with (") quotation marks or other non-alpha characters.



Recently there has been several discussions of mizzen car failure and several of us have posted photos. I know of three different albums that contain photos of mizzen car failure:

1.) Rigging Super Maramu

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1650688738/pic/list

2.) OUTHAUL MIZZEN CAR FAILURE

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/183142043/pic/list

3.) Kimberlite

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1943285105/pic/list



I do not offer a solution to this situation, but hope that someone can. The longer this continues the more confusing and worthless this great asset will become.



Bill

BeBe, SM2k, #387

Currently Cyprus



























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Re: [Amel] clothes wassher/dryer for super maramu#269

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi when replacing the unit IF you can find a 50/60 220 volt you are better off as then you can plug in most anyplace

Regards SM 209 for sale in Annapolis

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Dec 8, 2011, at 23:16, "fredrolet" <fredrolet@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi everybody
did anyone ever replace the washer dryer in a super maramu 2000
with something other than the original MIEL unit?
220v or 110v does not matter,but i can't find anything that fits in the original spot,everything is about 1 to 2 inches too big.
thanks in advance
fred/cindy
s/y kelp fiction #269


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Re: [Amel] clothes washer/dryer for super maramu#269

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Hi,



We have a Thomson washer/dryer unit that fits perfectly. It washes fine, as
long as you remember it is a boat washer and don't overload it. The dryer
is so/so, adequate for boat life but if I can, I would rather dry using my
boom and a good breeze.

Hope this helps.



George and Kim Cerillo

SM2K #353 Indecent



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fredrolet
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 12:16 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] clothes wassher/dryer for super maramu#269





Hi everybody
did anyone ever replace the washer dryer in a super maramu 2000
with something other than the original MIEL unit?
220v or 110v does not matter,but i can't find anything that fits in the
original spot,everything is about 1 to 2 inches too big.
thanks in advance
fred/cindy
s/y kelp fiction #269


Re: [Amel] clothes wassher/dryer for super maramu#269

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

If you are in the Caribbean, go to Martinique, the big stores have at least 10 different makes and models in 220 volts that will fit perfectly in there. Buy one with an english manual. Also, You should tell us where you are when looking for something. John "Moon Dog" SM248




To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: fredrolet@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 04:16:10 +0000
Subject: [Amel] clothes wassher/dryer for super maramu#269






Hi everybody
did anyone ever replace the washer dryer in a super maramu 2000
with something other than the original MIEL unit?
220v or 110v does not matter,but i can't find anything that fits in the original spot,everything is about 1 to 2 inches too big.
thanks in advance
fred/cindy
s/y kelp fiction #269






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clothes wassher/dryer for super maramu#269

fredrolet <fredrolet@...>
 

Hi everybody
did anyone ever replace the washer dryer in a super maramu 2000
with something other than the original MIEL unit?
220v or 110v does not matter,but i can't find anything that fits in the original spot,everything is about 1 to 2 inches too big.
thanks in advance
fred/cindy
s/y kelp fiction #269


Re: [Amel] Photo uploads...some thoughts

Lars H. Knudsen <museum@...>
 

A thought



While I fully understand the advantages of keeping information and photos
together on one site, an alternative solution could be to use one of the
great photo sites as storage for photos and other illustrations – e.g.
Picasa, Flickr or the like. Most of them offer an opportunity to tag photos
with keywords which are then searchable.



So the photo of the failed outhaul car would be tagged: outhaul, car,
failure, boom, mizzen



And could be found using any, some or all of these. The more keywords – the
more a search is narrowed down.



Regards,

Lars

Yacht Salvagny, at present in La Linea, Spain.

Santorin Ketch #79



Fra: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] På vegne af Judy and Bill aboard SV
BeBe
Sendt: 7. december 2011 13:15
Til: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Emne: [Amel] Photo uploads...some thoughts





I believe one of the more valuable sections of this website is the photo
section where we can all share photos of particular maintenance issues and
solutions. The problem is that we do not follow a logical or pre-planned
method of posting photos and Yahoo does not provide a search of photos.
Additionally, the only thing that the owner/moderator can do is delete a
photo or an album...he cannot move things around. And, lastly the only thing
Yahoo does for us is to sort the album based on Album name...most of you see
the problem this presents in naming an album incorrectly or with (")
quotation marks or other non-alpha characters.

Recently there has been several discussions of mizzen car failure and
several of us have posted photos. I know of three different albums that
contain photos of mizzen car failure:
1.) Rigging Super Maramu
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1650688738/pic/li
st
2.) OUTHAUL MIZZEN CAR FAILURE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/183142043/pic/lis
t
3.) Kimberlite
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1943285105/pic/li
st

I do not offer a solution to this situation, but hope that someone can. The
longer this continues the more confusing and worthless this great asset will
become.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Cyprus





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[Amel] Re: Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

Dave_Benjamin
 

Country of manufacturing is not critical. It's the combination of design, materials, and manufacturing specifications that matter. As a sailmaker, I use the best Dacron available for offshore sails, which many in the industry would agree is something like Marblehead from Challenge. Depending on weight, it's usually somewhere in the $16-19 per yard price range. I could buy a lesser Dacron like the high modulus for $10 or $12 per yard. I could buy seconds or other factory reject cloth for as little as 20-30% of regular price. It's well known that some lofts will use seconds to achieve a low price.

Manufacturing specifications vary. The size and design of patches is important. The basic broadseaming of course matters as well. Is the stitching zig-zag, or the much stronger triple step? What about the thread itself? Did you know some of the better sails are now using Tenara thread reduce or eliminate the threads degrading from UV exposure?

In-mast furling sails pose challenges as we have to engineer a lot of strength into the sail without making it bulky. Radial patches are a must. Webbing straps on in-mast furling sails must be well done. I prefer to use Spectra webbing knowing that if a webbing strap fails at the head of a sail at an inopportune moment, the only recourse is to lower the sail and repair it. Spectra is stronger and lasts longer. Yes it costs a few dollars extra.

I think many sailors assume all sails are more or less equal. That is generally not the case. It's a competitive industry and we don't see substantial differences in pricing for comparably manufactured sails. The margins simply aren't there. There are usually some major differences when there's a large disparity in price.

My advice is to ask a lot of questions about material and construction.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, " Anne and John Hollamby" <annejohnholl@...> wrote:

I replaced my sails about eighteen months ago with dacron ones via a Maltese sailmaker who had them made in Hong Kong and they are fine. The cost was half the price quoted by Gateff and included rapid manufacture,shipping and fitting by the local agent. I think Doyle sails are made in China but Gateff still seemed to be unaffected by this factor.
Regards, Anne and John, SM319


Re: Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

Martin Knauff <sy.stenella@...>
 

I got new sails this year from "Beilken" in Germany. They are one of the the best and greatest Sailmakers in Germany, also in the regatta scene, but they know the special needs of bluewater- sailing. They constructed the main and mizzen sails with vertical sticks to make the lateralplan bigger. The sails are rolling into the masts as good as before. Next year I will write down our experiences. You can ask Beilken after the measurements. They did file them in teir computer system.

Martin.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

Is the genoa larger as well, or just the main and mizzen?
Increasing the foot dimension can change the Ce (center of effort)a bit. Gateff built a lot of Amel sails so I'm sure they've got it sorted out. I don't know if I'd want to go any larger on the genoa.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Miles Bidwell" <mbidwell@> wrote:

Terry,



Four years ago I bought a set of sail from Gateff Sails in Toulon, France
(Sails Gateff is now part of Doyle Sails). Gateff makes the sails as large
as is physically possible-significantly larger than the factory
specifications. He used Hydra Net material. After a transatlantic and
more, the sails look like new and the light air performance of the boat is
much improved and it tacks through a smaller angle. If anyone is
interested, when Doyle bought Sails Gateff, Doyle acquired the computer
programs that run the sail cutting machine so they should be able to
duplicate the size and shape of these sails.



Regards,



Miles (sm216 Ladybug)



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[Amel] Re: SM Refit

Martin Knauff <sy.stenella@...>
 

Thank you, Kim and George :-)

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Kimberly Cerillo" <kcvabeach@...> wrote:

Stenella looks lovely..great color choice.



Kim and George Cerillo

SM2K #353 Indecent



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Knauff
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:54 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: SM Refit







Hello Mike, I earned the Super Maramu #34 and refitted her this year
completly. If you need any ideas, go to my Website "www.stenella.de".
If you have any questions, ask me.
We changed: Sails, Cushions, wallcovering, ait condition, Heater, batteries,
some of the electic system, sea cocks, propeller, electronics a.s.o.....
we checked engine and generator, rudder, electric furlings
installed new solar, windgenerator, and much more details.

Martin.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Danny" <ddukes1019@> wrote:





--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "goughs_au" <goughs_au@> wrote:

Hi, my name is Mike, currently in Fort Lauderdale. Purchased "Antares",
hull # 378 about 6 months ago. Now "Mahili". Intend to refit before heading
accross Pacific next year. So far replaced sails, rigging. Engine and genset
around 2000hr mark and running OK. If anyone has any advice about items that
should be replaced that do not appear on the manufacturers lists I would be
greatful.
Previous yacht was a Maramu, hull #147. I have pulled appart just about
everything on that one and I can offer advice there if needed.
Hi Mike, is that your Maramu "Mahili" for sale in Langkawi? I'm in Krabi
and was thinking of taking a look at her.




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Re: [Amel] Re: SM Refit

Martin Knauff <sy.stenella@...>
 

Hallo Ann,
yes, we tokk AWLGrip. It is very nice in the Details also. We had to determine, how to paint the Changeover between Hull and Deck. We painted the hull up until to Lip and took a new rubber in offwhite. The Deck is still in original colour, but we changed the coating from the Amel "Pseudoteak" to acoating named Flexiteek from http://www.ruegg.de/
I will write down my experiences with that material after the next season. I think, that it is a bit warmer than wooden teak, but it is very easy to clean and the colour is as new after long years.
We colored the Mast in new paint as we mounted the maststeps.
In the Interiour we took Alcantara in light beige and changed the rubberfoam from the cushions. I will take pictures from the interior if we mount the new curtains. We changed some tecnical in the navigation board and I think, we will mount a little door at the right side to lock the cupboard for wetclothes. I have seen a sideboard over the bar between citchen and salon. This we will mount new in the next winter to get more room for foods and goods.
The floor we will change also with new carpets in the next months.

If you have any questions, ask me.

Martin.


________________________________
Von: Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@hotmail.com>
An: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Gesendet: 9:03 Sonntag, 4.Dezember 2011
Betreff: RE: [Amel] Re: SM Refit


Hi Martin
Very nice new color of Stenella. Have you used awlgrip? We have started to talk about refitting the hull but are still in the fase of looking around on others experiences.

Do you have any interior pictures? Couldn't find any on your webiste. I am curious of your change of wallcovering.

Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila
SM 232
@Crete in Greece

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: sy.stenella@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 03:53:30 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Re: SM Refit






















 


   
     
     
     



Hello Mike, I earned the Super Maramu #34 and refitted her this year completly. If you need any ideas, go to my Website "www.stenella.de".

If you have any questions, ask me.

We changed: Sails, Cushions, wallcovering, ait condition, Heater, batteries, some of the electic system, sea cocks, propeller, electronics a.s.o.....

we checked engine and generator, rudder, electric furlings

installed new solar, windgenerator, and much more details.



Martin.



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Danny" <ddukes1019@...> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "goughs_au" <goughs_au@> wrote:
Hi, my name is Mike, currently in Fort Lauderdale. Purchased "Antares", hull # 378 about 6 months ago. Now "Mahili". Intend to refit before heading accross Pacific next year. So far replaced sails, rigging. Engine and genset around 2000hr mark and running OK. If anyone has any advice about items that should be replaced that do not appear on the manufacturers lists I would be greatful.
Previous yacht was a Maramu, hull #147. I have pulled appart just about everything on that one and I can offer advice there if needed.
Hi Mike, is that your Maramu "Mahili" for sale in Langkawi?  I'm in Krabi and was thinking of taking a look at her.




   
   

   
   






                         

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Re: [Amel] Photo uploads...some thoughts

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Hello Judy and Bill,



We could not agree more..I tried to choose the most obvious way to publish
the photos so that anyone experiencing outhaul problems would be able to
quickly find the photos. I am game for any suggestions you may have.



Kim

SM2K #353 Indecent



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard
SV BeBe
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:15 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Photo uploads...some thoughts





I believe one of the more valuable sections of this website is the photo
section where we can all share photos of particular maintenance issues and
solutions. The problem is that we do not follow a logical or pre-planned
method of posting photos and Yahoo does not provide a search of photos.
Additionally, the only thing that the owner/moderator can do is delete a
photo or an album...he cannot move things around. And, lastly the only thing
Yahoo does for us is to sort the album based on Album name...most of you see
the problem this presents in naming an album incorrectly or with (")
quotation marks or other non-alpha characters.

Recently there has been several discussions of mizzen car failure and
several of us have posted photos. I know of three different albums that
contain photos of mizzen car failure:
1.) Rigging Super Maramu
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1650688738/pic/li
st
2.) OUTHAUL MIZZEN CAR FAILURE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/183142043/pic/lis
t
3.) Kimberlite
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1943285105/pic/li
st

I do not offer a solution to this situation, but hope that someone can. The
longer this continues the more confusing and worthless this great asset will
become.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Cyprus


Photo uploads...some thoughts

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

I believe one of the more valuable sections of this website is the photo section where we can all share photos of particular maintenance issues and solutions. The problem is that we do not follow a logical or pre-planned method of posting photos and Yahoo does not provide a search of photos. Additionally, the only thing that the owner/moderator can do is delete a photo or an album...he cannot move things around. And, lastly the only thing Yahoo does for us is to sort the album based on Album name...most of you see the problem this presents in naming an album incorrectly or with (") quotation marks or other non-alpha characters.

Recently there has been several discussions of mizzen car failure and several of us have posted photos. I know of three different albums that contain photos of mizzen car failure:
1.) Rigging Super Maramu
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1650688738/pic/list
2.) OUTHAUL MIZZEN CAR FAILURE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/183142043/pic/list
3.) Kimberlite
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1943285105/pic/list

I do not offer a solution to this situation, but hope that someone can. The longer this continues the more confusing and worthless this great asset will become.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Cyprus


Re: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Dear Anne and John, Thanks for both pieces of info. I am a member of the Royal Thames so will try the Royal Malta. Interesting that Bali Hai is in Sicily--are you wintering there? Afloat or ashore? Any recommendations? We have been told of a new marina there on the south coast , Ragusa, where Lulu, a US flagged Oyster 61 has a winter berth for 1470 Euros for 6 months--less than they paid per month in Barcelona. Thought we might try it for next winter--we are slowly moving east, April till June , S.of France, Corsica and Sardinia en route to Malta.Go home for July and August and then the Italian islands for the autumn---at least, that's today's plan! Fair winds, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Spain

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: annejohnholl@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:37:31 +0100
Subject: Re: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain

Hello Ian and Judy, Yes we were wintering in San Carles and there were two galvanising companies near Barcelona. I asked rception about doing the anchor chain and had a language problem as they asked the first company about galvanising the anchor and they said yes so I had a carrier take the chain to that company which could not do chain. Problems, delays and expense to have the carrier collect the chain and they took it back to their depot and so on. They eventually took it to the right company which is a few miles north of Barcelona and they did an excellent job. It was much better to rent a van to collect it as the chain was loaded onto a pallet and their forklift put it in the van.
Sorry we cannot recall the name of the good company and the details are on the boat in Sicily.
Leaving your boat at MIYY would be OK especially if you check that Andrew has not forgotten from time to time! If that fails I feel sure that you would be able to berth in the marina at Ta'Xbiex pronounced tashbeesh, info at creekdevelopments.com. as although all the berths are full during the winter in May/June lots of boats are hauled out at MIYY for antifouling etc and temporary spaces are available.
By far the best would be if you could get a reservation at the Royal Malta Y.C. info at rmyc.org as they now have a marina at the club which may only be used in the summer and it is at the club which is excellent. I would expect them to have space and you could mention that you are a member of a Royal Club if that is the case.Either way you could mention my name as I am a member.

Good luck with it, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319

----- Original Message -----
From: Ian & Judy Jenkins
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain





Hi Anne and John, Saw your email about galvanising in Barcelona. Did you do this while you were wintering in San Carles? If so, can you remember the details of the galvanising company? We are ashore at San Carles at the moment. Secondly,I believe you know Malta well-- we have to leave Pen Azen in Malta for a few days to go to a wedding there at the end of June next. Prices seem to vary a lot between marinas with the best quote coming from Andrew Wilson at MIYY ltd at Manoel Island ( a cheaper quote from another marina, but on a first come first served basis which we can't risk). Have you any experience of the MIYY yard? Also, if you were to leave your boat in Malta for July and August would you consider leaving it there or is elsewhere to be preferred? Fair winds, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Spain

> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
> From: annejohnholl@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:38:49 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain
>
> Hello Ian, How are things in Cyprus? I did a post on this subject a few months ago saying that I had my original chain hot dipped galvanised in Barcelona three years ago for 180euros plus carriage and it is still lke new.There are a couple of reasons why this might be the case. I replaced the original SS CQR type anchor a long time ago with a galvanised Bugel type that I bought in Turkey as it is a much better anchor and stainless reacts to damage the galvanising on the chain. I also have a couple of prop shaft anodes on the end of the chain.
> Hope all is well with you, Anne and John, Bali hai, SM319
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ian Shepherd
> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:46 PM
> Subject: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain
>
>
>
> My galvanised anchor chain barely lasts two years before most of the
> zinc has gone despite having a prop shaft anode on the chain next to the
> stainless anchor. I am contemplating switching to a stainless chain.
> Does anyone have experience good or bad of stainless? If you use it on
> an Amel SM, was it necessary to increase the size from 10mm to 12mm? Did
> it rust? Did it resist stretching? If good, which brand did you buy? Did
> you discover any new problems?
>
> Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader
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Re: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Ian and Judy, Yes we were wintering in San Carles and there were two galvanising companies near Barcelona. I asked rception about doing the anchor chain and had a language problem as they asked the first company about galvanising the anchor and they said yes so I had a carrier take the chain to that company which could not do chain. Problems, delays and expense to have the carrier collect the chain and they took it back to their depot and so on. They eventually took it to the right company which is a few miles north of Barcelona and they did an excellent job. It was much better to rent a van to collect it as the chain was loaded onto a pallet and their forklift put it in the van.
Sorry we cannot recall the name of the good company and the details are on the boat in Sicily.
Leaving your boat at MIYY would be OK especially if you check that Andrew has not forgotten from time to time! If that fails I feel sure that you would be able to berth in the marina at Ta'Xbiex pronounced tashbeesh, info at creekdevelopments.com. as although all the berths are full during the winter in May/June lots of boats are hauled out at MIYY for antifouling etc and temporary spaces are available.
By far the best would be if you could get a reservation at the Royal Malta Y.C. info at rmyc.org as they now have a marina at the club which may only be used in the summer and it is at the club which is excellent. I would expect them to have space and you could mention that you are a member of a Royal Club if that is the case.Either way you could mention my name as I am a member.

Good luck with it, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319

----- Original Message -----
From: Ian & Judy Jenkins
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain





Hi Anne and John, Saw your email about galvanising in Barcelona. Did you do this while you were wintering in San Carles? If so, can you remember the details of the galvanising company? We are ashore at San Carles at the moment. Secondly,I believe you know Malta well-- we have to leave Pen Azen in Malta for a few days to go to a wedding there at the end of June next. Prices seem to vary a lot between marinas with the best quote coming from Andrew Wilson at MIYY ltd at Manoel Island ( a cheaper quote from another marina, but on a first come first served basis which we can't risk). Have you any experience of the MIYY yard? Also, if you were to leave your boat in Malta for July and August would you consider leaving it there or is elsewhere to be preferred? Fair winds, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Spain

> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
> From: annejohnholl@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:38:49 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain
>
> Hello Ian, How are things in Cyprus? I did a post on this subject a few months ago saying that I had my original chain hot dipped galvanised in Barcelona three years ago for 180euros plus carriage and it is still lke new.There are a couple of reasons why this might be the case. I replaced the original SS CQR type anchor a long time ago with a galvanised Bugel type that I bought in Turkey as it is a much better anchor and stainless reacts to damage the galvanising on the chain. I also have a couple of prop shaft anodes on the end of the chain.
> Hope all is well with you, Anne and John, Bali hai, SM319
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ian Shepherd
> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:46 PM
> Subject: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain
>
>
>
> My galvanised anchor chain barely lasts two years before most of the
> zinc has gone despite having a prop shaft anode on the chain next to the
> stainless anchor. I am contemplating switching to a stainless chain.
> Does anyone have experience good or bad of stainless? If you use it on
> an Amel SM, was it necessary to increase the size from 10mm to 12mm? Did
> it rust? Did it resist stretching? If good, which brand did you buy? Did
> you discover any new problems?
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Re: [Amel] Photo of Outhaul shackle with support bar (broken)

karkauai
 

Got it, Eric, Thanks.
Happy Holidays to all.
Kent


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From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 3:56 PM
Subject: [Amel] Photo of Outhaul shackle with support bar (broken)


 
Keny,

I uploaded a photo of my broken shackle. Look in photos under Kimberlite it
is the last photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:50 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] OUTHAUL MIZZEN CAR FAILURE

Does anyone have a pic of the welded support bar on these shackles? No
failure yet, but sounds like something that should be done prophylactically.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY

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Re : [Amel] looking fore information

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Hi Jean George,
 
The word ' safran' in french refers to the immersed portion of the 'rudder'.
The rudder is attached to the rudder post.
In the event of dammage to the steering system, starting at the quadrant, then an emergency tiller may be installed. It comprises an extension rudder post, a tiller which is operated from the top of the aft cabin.
 
It works fine and may be rigged so as to steer from the cockpit.
 
The picture posted in this topic is a clamp which serves so as to hold down the extension rudder post and the colors help in aligning the rudder with the tiller.
 
Serge, V/ Opéra    Mango #51

De : sjors prins <sjorsprins@yahoo.ca>
À : "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Envoyé le : Mardi 6 Décembre 2011 14h42
Objet : Re: [Amel] looking fore information


 
hi jean-paul, i looked up saphran on google but got nothing. what is the meaning of saphran?
Jean George

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From: Jean-paul Schuermans <jp-gaill@skynet.be>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 11:29:39 PM
Subject: [Amel] looking fore information


 
Good evening,
I just bought my maramu. I discovered little by little tricks of this boat. I found a piece of iron painted green and red wedged in a mattel foam next to the saphran. This metal piece is wider than the wick of saphran?
do you have an explanation?
Hère a picture of the pièce
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/329879979/pic/1452126474/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
Thanks to all, I Think i'll have many other questions.

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Photo of Outhaul shackle with support bar (broken)

eric freedman
 

Keny,

I uploaded a photo of my broken shackle. Look in photos under Kimberlite it
is the last photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:50 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] OUTHAUL MIZZEN CAR FAILURE





Does anyone have a pic of the welded support bar on these shackles? No
failure yet, but sounds like something that should be done prophylactically.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY


Re: Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

islandbwoy4434
 

I am pleasantly overwhealmed by the response to my questions. Moving from the Westsail family to this one will be easy!
I have all the information required and thank each and every member of the group.
Terry

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "islandbwoy4434" <terencesingh@...> wrote:

Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


Re: [Amel] looking fore information

sjors prins <sjorsprins@...>
 

hi jean-paul, i looked up saphran on google but got nothing. what is the meaning of saphran?
Jean George


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From: Jean-paul Schuermans <jp-gaill@skynet.be>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 11:29:39 PM
Subject: [Amel] looking fore information


 
Good evening,
I just bought my maramu. I discovered little by little tricks of this boat. I found a piece of iron painted green and red wedged in a mattel foam next to the saphran. This metal piece is wider than the wick of saphran?
do you have an explanation?
Hère a picture of the pièce
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/329879979/pic/1452126474/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
Thanks to all, I Think i'll have many other questions.




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Re: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Anne and John, Saw your email about galvanising in Barcelona. Did you do this while you were wintering in San Carles? If so, can you remember the details of the galvanising company? We are ashore at San Carles at the moment. Secondly,I believe you know Malta well-- we have to leave Pen Azen in Malta for a few days to go to a wedding there at the end of June next. Prices seem to vary a lot between marinas with the best quote coming from Andrew Wilson at MIYY ltd at Manoel Island ( a cheaper quote from another marina, but on a first come first served basis which we can't risk). Have you any experience of the MIYY yard? Also, if you were to leave your boat in Malta for July and August would you consider leaving it there or is elsewhere to be preferred? Fair winds, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Spain

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: annejohnholl@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:38:49 +0100
Subject: Re: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain

Hello Ian, How are things in Cyprus? I did a post on this subject a few months ago saying that I had my original chain hot dipped galvanised in Barcelona three years ago for 180euros plus carriage and it is still lke new.There are a couple of reasons why this might be the case. I replaced the original SS CQR type anchor a long time ago with a galvanised Bugel type that I bought in Turkey as it is a much better anchor and stainless reacts to damage the galvanising on the chain. I also have a couple of prop shaft anodes on the end of the chain.
Hope all is well with you, Anne and John, Bali hai, SM319

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From: Ian Shepherd
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:46 PM
Subject: [Amel] Stainless Anchor Chain



My galvanised anchor chain barely lasts two years before most of the
zinc has gone despite having a prop shaft anode on the chain next to the
stainless anchor. I am contemplating switching to a stainless chain.
Does anyone have experience good or bad of stainless? If you use it on
an Amel SM, was it necessary to increase the size from 10mm to 12mm? Did
it rust? Did it resist stretching? If good, which brand did you buy? Did
you discover any new problems?

Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader








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