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Re: [Amel] maramu water pump wireing

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Ross, If your Jabsco is like mine, there should be a red wire going from the pressure switch to the electric motor. If you intercept that wire with the wire leading to the light on the switchboard that will light up the little green light for you. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Spain

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: rossny@mail.com
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 19:14:47 +0000
Subject: [Amel] maramu water pump wireing

Hi. When replacing the water pump it had 4 wires red.blue.green.green/yellow. The new jabsco has red and black only....I wired red to red and black to blue and it worlks but I have 2 extra wires and the indicator light on the panel don't light. Any ideas? Thanks. Ross



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OUTHAUL MIZZEN CAR FAILURE

george cerillo
 

We experienced outhaul mizzen and main car failure (Antal 20x26 100mm) due to shackle failure. The shackles failed slightly off center and the screws holding the assembly were bent when we removed the outhaul car. Has anyone contacted Antal concerning what we consider to be a common problem with their shackle? We are aware that s/v Bebe also experienced this problem, however we find it interesting that the photos from Bebe display the shackle failure in exactly the same place as we did. This, to me, points to a weakness in the shackle. We have contacted Antal US and are awaiting thier response. I posted photos on the website:

OUTHAUL MIZZEN CAR FAILURE

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/183142043/pic/list

George and Kim Cerillo
SM2K #353 Indecent


Re: [Amel] Re: Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Our sails are 8-10 years old (we are the second owners of 2002 SM2K #353)
the sails are still in good condition and they are from Gateff Sails in
Toulon, France. The only thing we have done is replace the sacrificial
cloth on all three sails (this is the second time for the genoa).
According to North Sails here in Puerto Rico (Fajardo Canvas) we could get
another 1 to 2 years out of them.



R/



George and Kim Cerillo

SM2K #353 Indecent



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miles Bidwell
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:17 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging





Terry,

Four years ago I bought a set of sail from Gateff Sails in Toulon, France
(Sails Gateff is now part of Doyle Sails). Gateff makes the sails as large
as is physically possible-significantly larger than the factory
specifications. He used Hydra Net material. After a transatlantic and
more, the sails look like new and the light air performance of the boat is
much improved and it tacks through a smaller angle. If anyone is
interested, when Doyle bought Sails Gateff, Doyle acquired the computer
programs that run the sail cutting machine so they should be able to
duplicate the size and shape of these sails.

Regards,

Miles (sm216 Ladybug)


Re: Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

Terry,



Four years ago I bought a set of sail from Gateff Sails in Toulon, France
(Sails Gateff is now part of Doyle Sails). Gateff makes the sails as large
as is physically possible-significantly larger than the factory
specifications. He used Hydra Net material. After a transatlantic and
more, the sails look like new and the light air performance of the boat is
much improved and it tacks through a smaller angle. If anyone is
interested, when Doyle bought Sails Gateff, Doyle acquired the computer
programs that run the sail cutting machine so they should be able to
duplicate the size and shape of these sails.



Regards,



Miles (sm216 Ladybug)


Re: [Amel] Re: maramu ball valves

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

I bought mine from Amel, but I just goggled " British thread ball valves", and a bunch of sites turned up. Seems there are a lots of British threads around. Worth a try. John "Moon Dog" SM248




To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: dave_benjamin@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 01:54:40 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Re: maramu ball valves








--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "rossny@..." <rossny@...> wrote:

Hi. The handle has broken off my fore head ball valve and I think I remember that it is British thread. Does anyone know of a source in the USA or should I order from the UK? Since it is above waterline and for sanitation should i use pvc or marelon? Thanks. Ross
I'd check with some machine shops to see if a fitting could be machined.
I am not keen on Marelon valves. If they get a piece of solid debris they can jam up. You can't use much force on them for fear of breakage. In my opinion, best to stick with traditional bronze. The other issue with Marelon or PVC is that they can be damaged from impact on the exterior. All of this is less a concern with an above the waterline fitting but why take the chance?






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Re: [Amel] Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

Patrick McAneny
 

Terry, I owned a 32 Westsail for ten years and now have a SM . I replaced
my rigging for my main mast last spring. The rigging( swaged )cost about$
3,800. about another $900. to unstep/restep the mast.

SM #123

Pat


Re: [Amel] Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Super Sail in Florida does a very good job of making Amel sails and give us a price break. If you are on the west coast the folks that own Exit Strategy. Do as well.
Good luck on your new/used boat. We're are you and your Westsail?

Regards

Richard Piller. SM 209 for sale in Annapolis

Cell 603 767 5330

On Dec 4, 2011, at 9:58, "islandbwoy4434" <terencesingh@mac.com> wrote:

Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


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Re: Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

Barry <seagasm@...>
 

Hi Terry, we replaced our 10 years plus rigging here in Australia, the guys did it at the Marina Berth without removing the masts which I found quite impressive. My only criticism was the lack of knowledge with tension where there does not seem to be any information available. That said, we watched the performance regularly with minor adjustments. We have sailed to Vanuatu and the Torres Islands since experiencing winds 35-40 knots with no problems. Additionally, we purchased sails from Super Sails from there in the States and had them shipped out, they have all the measurements for the Amel and I found their service excellent, the product quality outstanding. I dealt with Zach there who is very helpful and seems to know his profession.

Best Regards
Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

Terry,

As a sailmaker I would encourage you to not rely on factory dimensions except for the purpose of obtaining quotes on sails. It's always best to measure the rig for new sails. That said, Amel is probably far better than most builders when it comes to providing records. If nothing else I'd check with Joel Potter to see how other owners have fared if the rig dimensions weren't verified.

I'd be happy to converse with you off-list if you have any questions about measuring rigs for new sails or why we care so much about doing so.



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "islandbwoy4434" <terencesingh@> wrote:

Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


Re: Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

Dave_Benjamin
 

Terry,

As a sailmaker I would encourage you to not rely on factory dimensions except for the purpose of obtaining quotes on sails. It's always best to measure the rig for new sails. That said, Amel is probably far better than most builders when it comes to providing records. If nothing else I'd check with Joel Potter to see how other owners have fared if the rig dimensions weren't verified.

I'd be happy to converse with you off-list if you have any questions about measuring rigs for new sails or why we care so much about doing so.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "islandbwoy4434" <terencesingh@...> wrote:

Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


Re: maramu ball valves

Dave_Benjamin
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "rossny@..." <rossny@...> wrote:

Hi. The handle has broken off my fore head ball valve and I think I remember that it is British thread. Does anyone know of a source in the USA or should I order from the UK? Since it is above waterline and for sanitation should i use pvc or marelon? Thanks. Ross
I'd check with some machine shops to see if a fitting could be machined.
I am not keen on Marelon valves. If they get a piece of solid debris they can jam up. You can't use much force on them for fear of breakage. In my opinion, best to stick with traditional bronze. The other issue with Marelon or PVC is that they can be damaged from impact on the exterior. All of this is less a concern with an above the waterline fitting but why take the chance?


main and mizzed bungee

eric freedman
 

Hi,

I could not interpret the notes of the diameter and length of the main and
mizzen bungee cords.

Could you please explain?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly Cerillo
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:18 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel] Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging





Here is more;

MEASURES OF SUPER MARAMU

Running rigging

Mainsail Mainsheet: diameter 14, length 23 m polyester
After trolley boom: diameter 10, length 11.5 m Kevlar green mark and 4.5 m 4
mm braided
After trolley boom: diameter 10, length 10 m Kevlar green mark and 1.5 m of
4 mm braided
Main halyard: diameter 10, length 17.2 m Vectran blue yellow marker
distance point mainsheet> cart: 30 cm
GM topping bungee diam 10, double, measuring 2.60 m over>> buy 5.50
GM topping rope diameter 10 m length 4.50

Jib Jib sheet: diameter 16, length 41 m Polyester red mark
Jib halyard: diameter 12, length 39 m Vectran blue yellow marker
Trolley jib sheet: diameter 10, length 10 m Kevlar green mark and 1.5 m of 4
mm braided

Pole Bout blue: diameter 14, length 17 m to 11 m mark Tempest
Red tip: diameter 14, length 9.5 m to 7.35 m mark Tempest
After yellow: diameter 14, length 6 m to 4.11 m mark Tempest
Tan white top: diameter 10, length 16m mark to 12.75 m Polyester

Mizzen mizzen halyard: diameter 10, length 15 m polyester blue mark
Listen mizzen: diameter 10, length 13 m polyester blue mark
After trolley boom: diameter 10, length l0 m Polyester mark green
Mizzen jib halyard: diameter 10, length 28 m Polyester black mark
Jib sheet mizzen: diameter 12, length 10 m polyester blue mark
point distance listening mizzen> cart: 28 cm
mizzen topping 8 in diameter bungee simple measure 1.40 m over>> buy 2.10
mizzen topping rope length 3.50 m diam 8

Auxiliary halyard Ball: diameter 10, length 39 m Polyester
Playing ball: diameter 16, length 27 m mark Polyester Green
GM retained boom: diameter 12, length 12 m stranded white strands 4
Withholding boom Mizzen: diameter 10, length 6 m 3 white wires stranded

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of islandbwoy4434
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard
measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs
associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and
becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


maramu ball valves

rossny@mail.com
 

Hi. The handle has broken off my fore head ball valve and I think I remember that it is British thread. Does anyone know of a source in the USA or should I order from the UK? Since it is above waterline and for sanitation should i use pvc or marelon? Thanks. Ross


maramu water pump wireing

rossny@mail.com
 

Hi. When replacing the water pump it had 4 wires red.blue.green.green/yellow. The new jabsco has red and black only....I wired red to red and black to blue and it worlks but I have 2 extra wires and the indicator light on the panel don't light. Any ideas? Thanks. Ross


maramu plumbing

rossny@mail.com
 

Hi all. I have replaced my waterpump and even had warm water from the waterheater. all looked OK until a water running sound from the engine room and the
bilge pump turning on. when I removed the bottom panels from the locker that cover the gen and seal in the engine room I could barely see the water heater with all the hoses and rusty hose clamps and corroded manifolds. But I could see the water coming out of the two larger hose connections. Looks like I will have to remove the Gen to even change the hose clamps! How do I get the old heater out? Should I rebuild it or replace. Is an on demand heater or tank better? Sorry for the long story ....ross


Re: [Amel] Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

karkauai
 

I had my standing rigging on SM243 replaced by the Deltaville Boatyard in Deltaville, VA last year.  The entire refit including haulout, unstepping/restepping the mast, new furling motors/gears for the main, and touching up the paint on the mast was almost $20K US.  It could have been done a little cheaper had I gone with SAE measurement cables and fittings instead of metric.  There were a few things that weren't done exactly right, but overall it was a very professional job.  If I were to do it over again, I would follow Craig and Catherine Briggs's lead (Sangaris, a Santorin) and do it myself, one or two stays at a time.  I think I could have done it for less than half the cost.  If you have someone else do it, I'd recommend that you find a rigger who is very familiar with Amels, especially if you aren't well-versed in the differences between Amels and other boats.  There are previous discussions on this subject to be found by searching the
message board.

I had new sails built when I bought the boat 4 years ago.  they still look like new.  The job was done by Banks Sails Gulf Coast in Kemah TX.  I bought new vertical battened main and mizzen of Spectra-reinforced dacron, and two foresails, a 135% and a higher-cut (Yankee) 110% of the same material.  The total cost for all 4 sails was $22K.  Most of my sailing has been in the Caribbean during the winter months, and although I bought the Yankee for 20+ knot conditions typical of that time and area, I haven't needed the 110% at all.  The vertical battens definitely give the sails a better shape.  They roll in and out of the masts without any problem as long as you're careful to have the booms pulled down to horizontal to the mast.  If you try to furl with the boom looser than that, the upper part of the sail will get bunched up in the mast and bind.  I have often sailed with the main furled completely, a reef in the 135% genoa, and a reef in the
mizzen.  The boat is well balanced and does 7-8kts in 20+ knot winds heeled over about 12-15d.  In light air, I wish I had gone with the 145% genoa as supplied by Amel, but she still does 5-6 knots in 8-10 knots of wind.  I've just added a 90sq m mizzen ballooner for light air at 80-120d.  I'll post pics when I get it flying and let you all know how she sails.

She sails downwind nicely wing-on-wing with one pole out, but I haven't yet flown both head sails.  Others on this site will tell you that there's no better downwind rig.  I'm guessing that that's another time I will wish I'd bought the 145% genoa to have a symmetrical rig with the 145% ballooner on the starboard side.

Sorry, I'm not on the boat and can't send you the dimensions of the sails that were supplied by Amel.  The new ones I had made were designed by Banks based on their own measurements of the rig.

Best of luck,
You won't be sorry if you purchase and Amel
Kent
SM243
KRISTY


Re: [Amel] Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

And more, hope this helps.







Kim and George Cerillo

SM2K #353 Indecent



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of islandbwoy4434
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging





Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard
measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs
associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and
becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


Re: [Amel] Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Here is more;



MEASURES OF SUPER MARAMU

Running rigging

Mainsail Mainsheet: diameter 14, length 23 m polyester
After trolley boom: diameter 10, length 11.5 m Kevlar green mark and 4.5 m 4
mm braided
After trolley boom: diameter 10, length 10 m Kevlar green mark and 1.5 m of
4 mm braided
Main halyard: diameter 10, length 17.2 m Vectran blue yellow marker
distance point mainsheet> cart: 30 cm
GM topping bungee diam 10, double, measuring 2.60 m over>> buy 5.50
GM topping rope diameter 10 m length 4.50

Jib Jib sheet: diameter 16, length 41 m Polyester red mark
Jib halyard: diameter 12, length 39 m Vectran blue yellow marker
Trolley jib sheet: diameter 10, length 10 m Kevlar green mark and 1.5 m of 4
mm braided

Pole Bout blue: diameter 14, length 17 m to 11 m mark Tempest
Red tip: diameter 14, length 9.5 m to 7.35 m mark Tempest
After yellow: diameter 14, length 6 m to 4.11 m mark Tempest
Tan white top: diameter 10, length 16m mark to 12.75 m Polyester

Mizzen mizzen halyard: diameter 10, length 15 m polyester blue mark
Listen mizzen: diameter 10, length 13 m polyester blue mark
After trolley boom: diameter 10, length l0 m Polyester mark green
Mizzen jib halyard: diameter 10, length 28 m Polyester black mark
Jib sheet mizzen: diameter 12, length 10 m polyester blue mark
point distance listening mizzen> cart: 28 cm
mizzen topping 8 in diameter bungee simple measure 1.40 m over>> buy 2.10
mizzen topping rope length 3.50 m diam 8

Auxiliary halyard Ball: diameter 10, length 39 m Polyester
Playing ball: diameter 16, length 27 m mark Polyester Green
GM retained boom: diameter 12, length 12 m stranded white strands 4
Withholding boom Mizzen: diameter 10, length 6 m 3 white wires stranded







From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of islandbwoy4434
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging





Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard
measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs
associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and
becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


Re: [Amel] Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Hello Terry,



This is the information from the owner's manual from our 2002 Super Maramu
#353.



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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of islandbwoy4434
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging





Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard
measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs
associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and
becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


Amel Super Maramu sail dimensions / Standing rigging

islandbwoy4434
 

Can anyone provide the factory sail dimensions for SM 53?
Are there any recommendations on replacement, i.e replace with standard measurements versus modified sail pan?
Does anyone have experience with replacing standing rigging and the costs associated with doing so.
My wife and I are close to parting with our Westsail 32 (SV Liberate) and becoming an Amel owner.
Terry


Re: [Amel] Re: SM Refit

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Stenella looks lovely..great color choice.



Kim and George Cerillo

SM2K #353 Indecent



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Knauff
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:54 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: SM Refit







Hello Mike, I earned the Super Maramu #34 and refitted her this year
completly. If you need any ideas, go to my Website "www.stenella.de".
If you have any questions, ask me.
We changed: Sails, Cushions, wallcovering, ait condition, Heater, batteries,
some of the electic system, sea cocks, propeller, electronics a.s.o.....
we checked engine and generator, rudder, electric furlings
installed new solar, windgenerator, and much more details.

Martin.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Danny" <ddukes1019@...> wrote:





--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "goughs_au" <goughs_au@> wrote:

Hi, my name is Mike, currently in Fort Lauderdale. Purchased "Antares",
hull # 378 about 6 months ago. Now "Mahili". Intend to refit before heading
accross Pacific next year. So far replaced sails, rigging. Engine and genset
around 2000hr mark and running OK. If anyone has any advice about items that
should be replaced that do not appear on the manufacturers lists I would be
greatful.
Previous yacht was a Maramu, hull #147. I have pulled appart just about
everything on that one and I can offer advice there if needed.
Hi Mike, is that your Maramu "Mahili" for sale in Langkawi? I'm in Krabi
and was thinking of taking a look at her.