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Re: [Amel] Re: SM Refit

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Hi Martin
Very nice new color of Stenella. Have you used awlgrip? We have started to talk about refitting the hull but are still in the fase of looking around on others experiences.

Do you have any interior pictures? Couldn't find any on your webiste. I am curious of your change of wallcovering.

Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila
SM 232
@Crete in Greece

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: sy.stenella@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 03:53:30 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Re: SM Refit
































Hello Mike, I earned the Super Maramu #34 and refitted her this year completly. If you need any ideas, go to my Website "www.stenella.de".

If you have any questions, ask me.

We changed: Sails, Cushions, wallcovering, ait condition, Heater, batteries, some of the electic system, sea cocks, propeller, electronics a.s.o.....

we checked engine and generator, rudder, electric furlings

installed new solar, windgenerator, and much more details.



Martin.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Danny" <ddukes1019@...> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "goughs_au" <goughs_au@> wrote:
Hi, my name is Mike, currently in Fort Lauderdale. Purchased "Antares", hull # 378 about 6 months ago. Now "Mahili". Intend to refit before heading accross Pacific next year. So far replaced sails, rigging. Engine and genset around 2000hr mark and running OK. If anyone has any advice about items that should be replaced that do not appear on the manufacturers lists I would be greatful.
Previous yacht was a Maramu, hull #147. I have pulled appart just about everything on that one and I can offer advice there if needed.
Hi Mike, is that your Maramu "Mahili" for sale in Langkawi? I'm in Krabi and was thinking of taking a look at her.


Re: SM Refit

Martin Knauff <sy.stenella@...>
 

Hello Mike, I earned the Super Maramu #34 and refitted her this year completly. If you need any ideas, go to my Website "www.stenella.de".
If you have any questions, ask me.
We changed: Sails, Cushions, wallcovering, ait condition, Heater, batteries, some of the electic system, sea cocks, propeller, electronics a.s.o.....
we checked engine and generator, rudder, electric furlings
installed new solar, windgenerator, and much more details.

Martin.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Danny" <ddukes1019@...> wrote:





--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "goughs_au" <goughs_au@> wrote:

Hi, my name is Mike, currently in Fort Lauderdale. Purchased "Antares", hull # 378 about 6 months ago. Now "Mahili". Intend to refit before heading accross Pacific next year. So far replaced sails, rigging. Engine and genset around 2000hr mark and running OK. If anyone has any advice about items that should be replaced that do not appear on the manufacturers lists I would be greatful.
Previous yacht was a Maramu, hull #147. I have pulled appart just about everything on that one and I can offer advice there if needed.
Hi Mike, is that your Maramu "Mahili" for sale in Langkawi? I'm in Krabi and was thinking of taking a look at her.


Re: [Amel] radar

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi all we have used the same they systems from Furuno all over US Caribb and Med we buy the super size C'Map chip that cover huge areas they have never failed us.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Dec 3, 2011, at 21:40, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Forgot to mention the furuno radar mounted at the nav station below but linked to the chartplotter so in the cockpit the display can be:, plotter, or radar, or radar plotter split screen, or radar plotter overlay, or any number of other configurations that include nav and course data in the display with radar and plotter.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand



________________________________
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2011 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android




Hi All, we have a Furuno chart plotter with chart cards for all our cruising areas. totally reliable and adequate for what we need, ie accurate navigation. may not have all the bells and whistles some systems have but the unit is designed for the job. As to long range communication, we believe nothing beats the SSB radio, we have an ICOM 804. Put a call out on that and everyone listening on frequency hears you. Sail mail with a pactor modem gives low cost email, albeit with limited file size.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl.
Mangonui
New Zealand

________________________________
From: Duncan Hagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2011 3:31 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android



Hi Richard,

I have come to the same conclusion on cell phones and chart graphics. I think I am lucky the former owner has charts that work on the Furuno and I will start there. If I get a wild hair and head out of the Caribbean then I will address charts at that time. I am going to get and Inmarsat or Iridium phone. I had an Iridium years ago and they have to be better now. This should solve the emergency voice and text communications issue.

Any comment on Epirb? I am told the one on board is old and needs replacing.

Shifting gears again,

Does anyone know of a transport service that goes to Antigua. I am thinking of buying all the ‘stuff’ that does not fit nicely into our bags (like fishing rods, a small golf set, etc. fins, etc.) and loading them in a container and shipping them in January.

Duncan

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

HI Duncan, as we traveled the world we found that the Iphone was not nearly as good as it is here. ATT/GSM phones are the best phone deal for the cell phones when you buy the call from outside U.S. plan. The DATA plans for the Iphone or any phone for that matter are out of site. Email on the Black Berry worked well. Text message from outside the U.S. are very costly. When we left, We got an unlimited plan for t
Email. Trying to use an Iphone for any phone for navagation is out of the question unless you plan on have $00,000.00 phone bills. They even tell you to TURN OFF the Iphone data feature when traveling out side the country and that includes Canada.

As you can see by all the postings there is a wide range of choice in chart software it will for the most part be focused on the what computer you are using; MAC or PC. We are a very big advocate of using a marine chart plotter as the salt air will over time kill any computer. Furuno or Raymarine have great units you can mount both at the nav station and helm. Those chart cards can be read by you lap top if you wish and buy the hardware/software.
While it is fun to use the Ipad and all those toys the most reliable nav systems are those not effected by the sea/salt air.
IF you decide to buy a system do it here and ship it there to a vessel in transit..

Good luck and all the best when you go to the boat.
Richard on SM 209 For Sale in Annapolis

________________________________
From: "Gaffney, Drew" <drew.gaffney@vanderbilt.edu <mailto:drew.gaffney%40vanderbilt.edu> >
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> " <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Duncan,
We have both iPad and Android with Navionics. There are some differences, but both are excellent and a welcome alternative to Maxsea and C-Maps 2009. We actually run both Maxsea at the nav station on a laptop and either the Droid or the iPad at the helm.
The iPad has a bigger screen, which is nice, but the Droid can be expanded for whatever detail one wishes.
Both work without cell coverage. The iPad must include wireless, as that's where the GPS resides. The Droid works when in airplane mode (wireless off), but the iPad requires the phone to be on, although cell coverage is not needed. There's an irritating error message without cell coverage, but it's easily dismissed without affecting navigation.
The Droid has smaller, chart sets. Australia and all of Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand are on a single Navionics chart set for iPad, but require multiple modules for Droids.
Interestingly, the "up-to-date" Navionics charts are often more up-to-date, but not always. Sometimes, there are major inaccuracies. Sometimes C-Map is more accurate. As we have both available, we compare and note which seems to reflect reality best.
We carry paper charts, but use them less and less. The color, detail, and ease of use push us to electronic charts. We have numerous back-up GPS alternatives on-board, although the GPS system remains a single-point failure risk.. It's possible to make paper copies of key portions of electronic charts, e.g. anchorages, harbor approaches, etc. We sometimes do that.
The "hacked" version of Maxsea used by most cruisers requires Windows XP, and that's becoming more difficult to get and maintain. When our current, 3yr old laptop dies, we'll use OpenCPN running Win7 on the laptop at the nav station and continue using Navionics on the Droid and/or iPad at the helm.
Drew
SV Revelation SM390,
On the hard, Pangkor Marina, Malaysia



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radar

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Forgot to mention the furuno radar mounted at the nav station below but linked to the chartplotter so in the cockpit the display can be:, plotter, or radar, or radar plotter split screen, or radar plotter overlay, or any number of other configurations that include nav and course data in the display with radar and plotter.
Regards
Danny
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand
 


________________________________
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 4 December 2011 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android



 

Hi All, we have a Furuno chart plotter with chart cards for all our cruising areas. totally reliable and adequate for what we need, ie accurate navigation. may not have all the bells and whistles some systems have but the unit is designed for the job. As to long range communication, we believe nothing beats the SSB radio, we have an ICOM 804. Put a call out on that and everyone listening on frequency hears you. Sail mail with a pactor modem gives low cost email, albeit with limited file size.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl.
Mangonui
New Zealand


________________________________
From: Duncan Hagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2011 3:31 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android


 

Hi Richard,

I have come to the same conclusion on cell phones and chart graphics. I think I am lucky the former owner has charts that work on the Furuno and I will start there. If I get a wild hair and head out of the Caribbean then I will address charts at that time. I am going to get and Inmarsat or Iridium phone. I had an Iridium years ago and they have to be better now. This should solve the emergency voice and text communications issue.

Any comment on Epirb? I am told the one on board is old and needs replacing.

Shifting gears again,

Does anyone know of a transport service that goes to Antigua. I am thinking of buying all the ‘stuff’ that does not fit nicely into our bags (like fishing rods, a small golf set, etc. fins, etc.) and loading them in a container and shipping them in January.

Duncan

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

HI Duncan, as we traveled the world we found that the Iphone was not nearly as good as it is here. ATT/GSM phones are the best phone deal for the cell phones when you buy the call from outside U.S. plan. The DATA plans for the Iphone or any phone for that matter are out of site. Email on the Black Berry worked well. Text message from outside the U.S. are very costly. When we left, We got an unlimited plan for t
Email. Trying to use an Iphone for any phone for navagation is out of the question unless you plan on have $00,000.00 phone bills. They even tell you to TURN OFF the Iphone data feature when traveling out side the country and that includes Canada.

As you can see by all the postings there is a wide range of choice in chart software it will for the most part be focused on the what computer you are using; MAC or PC. We are a very big advocate of using a marine chart plotter as the salt air will over time kill any computer. Furuno or Raymarine have great units you can mount both at the nav station and helm. Those chart cards can be read by you lap top if you wish and buy the hardware/software.
While it is fun to use the Ipad and all those toys the most reliable nav systems are those not effected by the sea/salt air.
IF you decide to buy a system do it here and ship it there to a vessel in transit..

Good luck and all the best when you go to the boat.
Richard on SM 209 For Sale in Annapolis

________________________________
From: "Gaffney, Drew" <drew.gaffney@vanderbilt.edu <mailto:drew.gaffney%40vanderbilt.edu> >
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> " <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Duncan,
We have both iPad and Android with Navionics. There are some differences, but both are excellent and a welcome alternative to Maxsea and C-Maps 2009. We actually run both Maxsea at the nav station on a laptop and either the Droid or the iPad at the helm.
The iPad has a bigger screen, which is nice, but the Droid can be expanded for whatever detail one wishes.
Both work without cell coverage. The iPad must include wireless, as that's where the GPS resides. The Droid works when in airplane mode (wireless off), but the iPad requires the phone to be on, although cell coverage is not needed. There's an irritating error message without cell coverage, but it's easily dismissed without affecting navigation.
The Droid has smaller, chart sets. Australia and all of Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand are on a single Navionics chart set for iPad, but require multiple modules for Droids.
Interestingly, the "up-to-date" Navionics charts are often more up-to-date, but not always. Sometimes, there are major inaccuracies. Sometimes C-Map is more accurate. As we have both available, we compare and note which seems to reflect reality best.
We carry paper charts, but use them less and less. The color, detail, and ease of use push us to electronic charts. We have numerous back-up GPS alternatives on-board, although the GPS system remains a single-point failure risk.. It's possible to make paper copies of key portions of electronic charts, e.g. anchorages, harbor approaches, etc. We sometimes do that.
The "hacked" version of Maxsea used by most cruisers requires Windows XP, and that's becoming more difficult to get and maintain. When our current, 3yr old laptop dies, we'll use OpenCPN running Win7 on the laptop at the nav station and continue using Navionics on the Droid and/or iPad at the helm.
Drew
SV Revelation SM390,
On the hard, Pangkor Marina, Malaysia

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Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi All, we have a Furuno chart plotter with chart cards for all our cruising areas. totally reliable and adequate for what we need, ie accurate navigation. may not have all the bells and whistles some systems have but the unit is designed for the job. As to long range communication, we believe nothing beats the SSB radio, we have an ICOM 804. Put a call out on that and everyone listening on frequency hears you. Sail mail with a pactor modem gives low cost email, albeit with limited file size.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl.
Mangonui
New Zealand


________________________________
From: Duncan Hagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2011 3:31 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android



 

Hi Richard,

I have come to the same conclusion on cell phones and chart graphics. I think I am lucky the former owner has charts that work on the Furuno and I will start there. If I get a wild hair and head out of the Caribbean then I will address charts at that time. I am going to get and Inmarsat or Iridium phone. I had an Iridium years ago and they have to be better now. This should solve the emergency voice and text communications issue.

Any comment on Epirb? I am told the one on board is old and needs replacing.

Shifting gears again,

Does anyone know of a transport service that goes to Antigua. I am thinking of buying all the ‘stuff’ that does not fit nicely into our bags (like fishing rods, a small golf set, etc. fins, etc.) and loading them in a container and shipping them in January.

Duncan

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

HI Duncan, as we traveled the world we found that the Iphone was not nearly as good as it is here. ATT/GSM phones are the best phone deal for the cell phones when you buy the call from outside U.S. plan. The DATA plans for the Iphone or any phone for that matter are out of site. Email on the Black Berry worked well. Text message from outside the U.S. are very costly. When we left, We got an unlimited plan for t
Email. Trying to use an Iphone for any phone for navagation is out of the question unless you plan on have $00,000.00 phone bills. They even tell you to TURN OFF the Iphone data feature when traveling out side the country and that includes Canada.

As you can see by all the postings there is a wide range of choice in chart software it will for the most part be focused on the what computer you are using; MAC or PC. We are a very big advocate of using a marine chart plotter as the salt air will over time kill any computer. Furuno or Raymarine have great units you can mount both at the nav station and helm. Those chart cards can be read by you lap top if you wish and buy the hardware/software.
While it is fun to use the Ipad and all those toys the most reliable nav systems are those not effected by the sea/salt air.
IF you decide to buy a system do it here and ship it there to a vessel in transit.

Good luck and all the best when you go to the boat.
Richard on SM 209 For Sale in Annapolis

________________________________
From: "Gaffney, Drew" <drew.gaffney@vanderbilt.edu <mailto:drew.gaffney%40vanderbilt.edu> >
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> " <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Duncan,
We have both iPad and Android with Navionics. There are some differences, but both are excellent and a welcome alternative to Maxsea and C-Maps 2009. We actually run both Maxsea at the nav station on a laptop and either the Droid or the iPad at the helm.
The iPad has a bigger screen, which is nice, but the Droid can be expanded for whatever detail one wishes.
Both work without cell coverage. The iPad must include wireless, as that's where the GPS resides. The Droid works when in airplane mode (wireless off), but the iPad requires the phone to be on, although cell coverage is not needed. There's an irritating error message without cell coverage, but it's easily dismissed without affecting navigation.
The Droid has smaller, chart sets. Australia and all of Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand are on a single Navionics chart set for iPad, but require multiple modules for Droids.
Interestingly, the "up-to-date" Navionics charts are often more up-to-date, but not always. Sometimes, there are major inaccuracies. Sometimes C-Map is more accurate. As we have both available, we compare and note which seems to reflect reality best.
We carry paper charts, but use them less and less. The color, detail, and ease of use push us to electronic charts. We have numerous back-up GPS alternatives on-board, although the GPS system remains a single-point failure risk.. It's possible to make paper copies of key portions of electronic charts, e.g. anchorages, harbor approaches, etc. We sometimes do that.
The "hacked" version of Maxsea used by most cruisers requires Windows XP, and that's becoming more difficult to get and maintain. When our current, 3yr old laptop dies, we'll use OpenCPN running Win7 on the laptop at the nav station and continue using Navionics on the Droid and/or iPad at the helm.
Drew
SV Revelation SM390,
On the hard, Pangkor Marina, Malaysia



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[Amel] Re: sm2k's with the Yanmar 75HP motors & pic

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Bill
Thanks, just got back into range and found the pictures & your comment. Have looked through many of your posts to the site so thank you for all the very useful information. It is amazing help for new Amel owners like myself.
Kind regards, Colin (sm2k #332)

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, bootlegger@... wrote:

D
------Original Message------
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
ReplyTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: sm2k's with the Yanmar 75HP motors & pic
Sent: 27 Nov 2011 06:14

Colin,

The 10 Jerry Cans in the "liferaft locker" was me, BeBe #387. I posted photos at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/855376336/pic/list?mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

Be sure to read the comments under each photo.

BTW, we are 3/4ths of the way around the world, westward bound starting in the Caribbean...we have yet to need the extra fuel, but it has been reassuring that it is there.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently N Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Colin Streeter <colin.d.streeter@> wrote:

Thanks Eric
Your comments are comforting and, given the other comments so far, I suspect that we will be very content with the 75 hp as is.
Whilst in touch with you I might add that you have added a wealth of useful into into the AMEL site so thanks for this as I have been reading much of it. With our upcoming Atlantic trip I am going to go back to the string of articles to which you added - in particular the one regarding 10 extra fuel containers in the life raft hatch - and ask for someone to post some pictures of how this looks when stacked in. A picture would really help me as I am getting someone to purchase these in Gran Canaria and I am currently in Sydney. A pic would be far better than my poor Spanish...
Cheers, Colin


Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Cable & Wireless


Navigation charts on ipad iphone

Rink De Haan
 

I use Navionics charts on my plotter and PC. Works very well. When We bought our SM2000 there was a Raymarine plotter with C-map charts. This doesn't work very well, mostly because of the limitations of the plotter. On my ipad and iphone I use iSailor. This app uses russian made TX charts which are commonly used on commercial vessels. These charts are good, frequently updated and inexpensive. We sail in the Med, currently around Turkey, and these charts are very good. The app is free. Within the app us their chart store. I don't know if it's running on android. There is a pc application for these charts as well. I used it back in Holland but found charts a bit expensive, but exellent.

Cheers,

Rink de Haan
SM2000 #330 Razor's Edge
Currently in Kusadasi Turkey


Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Duncan. The Iridium phone work great world wide and are very in the islands. If your Furuno is set up for C'Map get the chip that cover the east coast and Caribb. You will not be sorry.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Dec 2, 2011, at 9:31, "Duncan Hagemeyer" <wdhagemeyer@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Richard,

I have come to the same conclusion on cell phones and chart graphics. I think I am lucky the former owner has charts that work on the Furuno and I will start there. If I get a wild hair and head out of the Caribbean then I will address charts at that time. I am going to get and Inmarsat or Iridium phone. I had an Iridium years ago and they have to be better now. This should solve the emergency voice and text communications issue.

Any comment on Epirb? I am told the one on board is old and needs replacing.

Shifting gears again,

Does anyone know of a transport service that goes to Antigua. I am thinking of buying all the ‘stuff’ that does not fit nicely into our bags (like fishing rods, a small golf set, etc. fins, etc.) and loading them in a container and shipping them in January.

Duncan

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

HI Duncan, as we traveled the world we found that the Iphone was not nearly as good as it is here. ATT/GSM phones are the best phone deal for the cell phones when you buy the call from outside U.S. plan. The DATA plans for the Iphone or any phone for that matter are out of site. Email on the Black Berry worked well. Text message from outside the U.S. are very costly. When we left, We got an unlimited plan for t
Email. Trying to use an Iphone for any phone for navagation is out of the question unless you plan on have $00,000.00 phone bills. They even tell you to TURN OFF the Iphone data feature when traveling out side the country and that includes Canada.

As you can see by all the postings there is a wide range of choice in chart software it will for the most part be focused on the what computer you are using; MAC or PC. We are a very big advocate of using a marine chart plotter as the salt air will over time kill any computer. Furuno or Raymarine have great units you can mount both at the nav station and helm. Those chart cards can be read by you lap top if you wish and buy the hardware/software.
While it is fun to use the Ipad and all those toys the most reliable nav systems are those not effected by the sea/salt air.
IF you decide to buy a system do it here and ship it there to a vessel in transit.

Good luck and all the best when you go to the boat.
Richard on SM 209 For Sale in Annapolis

________________________________
From: "Gaffney, Drew" <drew.gaffney@vanderbilt.edu <mailto:drew.gaffney%40vanderbilt.edu> >
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> " <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Duncan,
We have both iPad and Android with Navionics. There are some differences, but both are excellent and a welcome alternative to Maxsea and C-Maps 2009. We actually run both Maxsea at the nav station on a laptop and either the Droid or the iPad at the helm.
The iPad has a bigger screen, which is nice, but the Droid can be expanded for whatever detail one wishes.
Both work without cell coverage. The iPad must include wireless, as that's where the GPS resides. The Droid works when in airplane mode (wireless off), but the iPad requires the phone to be on, although cell coverage is not needed. There's an irritating error message without cell coverage, but it's easily dismissed without affecting navigation.
The Droid has smaller, chart sets. Australia and all of Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand are on a single Navionics chart set for iPad, but require multiple modules for Droids.
Interestingly, the "up-to-date" Navionics charts are often more up-to-date, but not always. Sometimes, there are major inaccuracies. Sometimes C-Map is more accurate. As we have both available, we compare and note which seems to reflect reality best.
We carry paper charts, but use them less and less. The color, detail, and ease of use push us to electronic charts. We have numerous back-up GPS alternatives on-board, although the GPS system remains a single-point failure risk. It's possible to make paper copies of key portions of electronic charts, e.g. anchorages, harbor approaches, etc. We sometimes do that.
The "hacked" version of Maxsea used by most cruisers requires Windows XP, and that's becoming more difficult to get and maintain. When our current, 3yr old laptop dies, we'll use OpenCPN running Win7 on the laptop at the nav station and continue using Navionics on the Droid and/or iPad at the helm.
Drew
SV Revelation SM390,
On the hard, Pangkor Marina, Malaysia

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Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

Hi Richard,



I have come to the same conclusion on cell phones and chart graphics. I think I am lucky the former owner has charts that work on the Furuno and I will start there. If I get a wild hair and head out of the Caribbean then I will address charts at that time. I am going to get and Inmarsat or Iridium phone. I had an Iridium years ago and they have to be better now. This should solve the emergency voice and text communications issue.



Any comment on Epirb? I am told the one on board is old and needs replacing.



Shifting gears again,



Does anyone know of a transport service that goes to Antigua. I am thinking of buying all the ‘stuff’ that does not fit nicely into our bags (like fishing rods, a small golf set, etc. fins, etc.) and loading them in a container and shipping them in January.



Duncan



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android





HI Duncan, as we traveled the world we found that the Iphone was not nearly as good as it is here. ATT/GSM phones are the best phone deal for the cell phones when you buy the call from outside U.S. plan. The DATA plans for the Iphone or any phone for that matter are out of site. Email on the Black Berry worked well. Text message from outside the U.S. are very costly. When we left, We got an unlimited plan for t
Email. Trying to use an Iphone for any phone for navagation is out of the question unless you plan on have $00,000.00 phone bills. They even tell you to TURN OFF the Iphone data feature when traveling out side the country and that includes Canada.

As you can see by all the postings there is a wide range of choice in chart software it will for the most part be focused on the what computer you are using; MAC or PC. We are a very big advocate of using a marine chart plotter as the salt air will over time kill any computer. Furuno or Raymarine have great units you can mount both at the nav station and helm. Those chart cards can be read by you lap top if you wish and buy the hardware/software.
While it is fun to use the Ipad and all those toys the most reliable nav systems are those not effected by the sea/salt air.
IF you decide to buy a system do it here and ship it there to a vessel in transit.

Good luck and all the best when you go to the boat.
Richard on SM 209 For Sale in Annapolis

________________________________
From: "Gaffney, Drew" <drew.gaffney@vanderbilt.edu <mailto:drew.gaffney%40vanderbilt.edu> >
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> " <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android



Duncan,
We have both iPad and Android with Navionics. There are some differences, but both are excellent and a welcome alternative to Maxsea and C-Maps 2009. We actually run both Maxsea at the nav station on a laptop and either the Droid or the iPad at the helm.
The iPad has a bigger screen, which is nice, but the Droid can be expanded for whatever detail one wishes.
Both work without cell coverage. The iPad must include wireless, as that's where the GPS resides. The Droid works when in airplane mode (wireless off), but the iPad requires the phone to be on, although cell coverage is not needed. There's an irritating error message without cell coverage, but it's easily dismissed without affecting navigation.
The Droid has smaller, chart sets. Australia and all of Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand are on a single Navionics chart set for iPad, but require multiple modules for Droids.
Interestingly, the "up-to-date" Navionics charts are often more up-to-date, but not always. Sometimes, there are major inaccuracies. Sometimes C-Map is more accurate. As we have both available, we compare and note which seems to reflect reality best.
We carry paper charts, but use them less and less. The color, detail, and ease of use push us to electronic charts. We have numerous back-up GPS alternatives on-board, although the GPS system remains a single-point failure risk. It's possible to make paper copies of key portions of electronic charts, e.g. anchorages, harbor approaches, etc. We sometimes do that.
The "hacked" version of Maxsea used by most cruisers requires Windows XP, and that's becoming more difficult to get and maintain. When our current, 3yr old laptop dies, we'll use OpenCPN running Win7 on the laptop at the nav station and continue using Navionics on the Droid and/or iPad at the helm.
Drew
SV Revelation SM390,
On the hard, Pangkor Marina, Malaysia

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Re: ARC - Duel between Amel 54 and Oyster 575

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

I have uploaded 2 more screen shots of the duel between ARC Cruising "A" yachts: "Lone Star" - Amel 54 currently in 6th place and "Sophistikate" - Oyster 575 in 8th place.

If you look at the tracks you can see how the double pole system has helped Lone Star maintain its lead on the Oyster 575. Lone Star had a mid-Atlantic problem. They tore the Ballooner which caused them considerable time and speed as they repaired the 10 - 15' luff tear. However, they have maintained their lead over the Oyster 575.

You can view the latest screen shot of the Amel/Oyster duel on this website at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1160590103/pic/243553569/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

Note the track of the Oyster as they had wind directly from astern, versus the track of the Amel.

Gig 'em Lone Star (Texas A&M crew)

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

We have been keeping tabs with a fellow Amel owner and his yacht Lone Star (Amel 54) in the current ARC.

Here is a recent log entry by one of the crew:
The day started off overcast and cloudy but with steady winds of 18 to 22 knots. This is giving us good boat speed. Our SOG's are between 9 and 10 knots this morning. The skies have cleared and we are still doing well. We have a double head sail rig set up with poles port and starboard. Since we are an Amel 54 we have to call this rig an Amel head-sail with a ballooner. It is really a great set up for our downwind sail.

I uploaded a screen shot of 2 Class "A" Cruising Yachts: Lone Star - Amel 54 in 4th place and Sophistikate - Oyster 575 in 8th place. You can link to it here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1160590103/pic/602479346/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

I am pulling for Lone Star to BTHO of Shophistikate and I am hoping that this trend continues.

I will let someone else comment on Shophistikate's strategy to find the wind while Lone Star is using the Amel double pole system.

You can log on to the ARC viewer at: www.worldcruising.com/arc/viewer.aspx

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387


Re: [Amel] Re: Sailing to Florida

Veit Mueller <veitm@...>
 

Hello All:

As we made it to Ft Lauderdale on Monday, I figured it just makes sense to share the last couple of days journey experience.

String SE wind on the nose, turning more South at times. Also, the Gulf stream was very close to the coast for the last 100 m, we only got out of the counter current when sailing 1-2m off shore - which we ended up doing only during the day on Monday.

All overall, I am convinced that for last week the right decision was to stay West of the Gulf stream, but would have preferred to wait for one more day until the SE turns to W and then to NW on Tuesday.

Cheers,
Veit
ATMAN SM 215

Sent from vm iPad

On Nov 28, 2011, at 10:32 AM, "Kimberly Cerillo" <kcvabeach@yahoo.com> wrote:

Great to hear you had a nice sail so far!! Have fun in Ft. Lauderdale!

George and Kim

SM #353 Indecent

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Veit Mueller
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 3:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Sailing to Florida

Hello All:

Thank you for all your advise.
We looked at the weather and ended up on the inside (west of gulf stream) route.
Cape Hateras was calm and many stars...we ducked into Beaufort (very nice people) for a day to let a strong S wind system pass and are sailing since Thursday morning South.
Basically always a little S current (~30fathom line), and ok conditions.
Hope to arrive on Ft Lauderdale tomorrow.

Cheers,
Veit
ATMAN SM215

Sent from vm iPad

On Nov 21, 2011, at 9:49 AM, "Kimberly Cerillo" <kcvabeach@yahoo.com <mailto:kcvabeach%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

We have sailed down to Florida (the Keys/Ft. Lauderdale) a few times. We pretty much always stay inside the stream. We feel that we can check out the different areas along the coast (we love Charleston and St. Augustine) and can duck in if the weather becomes adverse. We always choose our weather window wisely when going around Hatteras, and tend to be more cautious than most. We have been around Hatteras about 6 times and have not ever hit any adverse wind/seas. If you are cautious with your weather, the passage can be beautiful, however, if you are not cautious, it isn’t called the Graveyard of the Atlantic for nothing. We have friends that encountered 25-30’ seas off Hatteras and ended up turning back towards Norfolk.

We were home ported in the Little Creek area of Norfolk for a couple of years and the crab pots and fishing nets can be problematic in the Chesapeake as they can be found in channels and are as likely as not to be poorly marked (we have seen quite a few that have black floats instead of the day glow orange).

If you have the time, stay inside and stop at the many beautiful ports along the coast.

George and Kim

SM #353 Indecent

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Veit Mueller
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:05 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Sailing to Florida

Thanks for the post. We just left Cape Charles, VA on our way South.
still checking weather etc before we make a final decision.
Cheers,
Veit
ATMAN SM 215

Sent from vm iPad

On Nov 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, "rossirossix4" <rossidesigngroup@gmail.com <mailto:rossidesigngroup%40gmail.com> <mailto:rossidesigngroup%40gmail.com> > wrote:

We arrived in Beaufort, NC yesterday afternoon after a 32 hour sail from Hampton, VA on the "inside" of the gulf stream around Cape Hatteras. We stayed within a few miles of the shore, avoiding most of the current of the gulf stream. We averaged 7+ knots for the 230 nm trip and it was pleasant (a bit cold this time of year)ran the diesel a total of 2 hours. BUT we paid close attention to the weather forecast and had favorable winds. There are fish pots out from Virginia Beach so be careful there at night, otherwise we did not see any. Again, rounding Cape Hatteras and Cape Lookout deserves respect and careful consideration of the weather but is worth a look.

Hampton, VA municipal marina is a great stop...$1.20/ft with SSCA, $1.25 BOATUS AND if you buy 2 nights 3rd is free...comes to $0.80/foot if you stay 3 days!
Bob
Brittany de la Mer

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "veitm@..." <veitm@...> wrote:

Hello all:
We have our boat in Annapolis and are planning to sail her South to Florida - Ft Lauderdale.
Wondering wether to go East or West of the Gulfstream.
Anybody any good tips?
Cheers,
Veit - ATMAN SM 215
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Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

HI Duncan, as we traveled the world we found that the Iphone was not nearly as good as it is here.  ATT/GSM phones are the best phone deal for the cell phones when you buy the call from outside U.S. plan.  The DATA plans for the Iphone or any phone for that matter are out of site.  Email on the Black Berry worked well.  Text message from outside the U.S. are very costly.  When we left,  We got an unlimited plan for t
Email.  Trying to use an Iphone for any phone for navagation is out of the question unless you plan on have $00,000.00 phone bills.  They even tell you to TURN OFF the Iphone data feature when traveling out side the country and that includes Canada. 

As you can see by all the postings there is a wide range of choice in chart software it will for the most part be focused on the what computer you are using; MAC or PC.  We are a very big advocate of using a marine chart plotter as the salt air will over time kill any computer. Furuno or Raymarine have great units you can mount both at the nav station and helm.  Those chart cards can be read by you lap top if you wish and buy the hardware/software.
While it is fun to use the Ipad and all those toys the most reliable nav systems are those not effected by the sea/salt air.
IF you decide to buy a system do it here and ship it there to a vessel in transit. 

Good luck and all the best when you go to the boat.
Richard on SM 209 For Sale in Annapolis




________________________________
From: "Gaffney, Drew" <drew.gaffney@vanderbilt.edu>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android


 
Duncan,
We have both iPad and Android with Navionics. There are some differences, but both are excellent and a welcome alternative to Maxsea and C-Maps 2009. We actually run both Maxsea at the nav station on a laptop and either the Droid or the iPad at the helm.
The iPad has a bigger screen, which is nice, but the Droid can be expanded for whatever detail one wishes.
Both work without cell coverage. The iPad must include wireless, as that's where the GPS resides. The Droid works when in airplane mode (wireless off), but the iPad requires the phone to be on, although cell coverage is not needed. There's an irritating error message without cell coverage, but it's easily dismissed without affecting navigation.
The Droid has smaller, chart sets. Australia and all of Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand are on a single Navionics chart set for iPad, but require multiple modules for Droids.
Interestingly, the "up-to-date" Navionics charts are often more up-to-date, but not always. Sometimes, there are major inaccuracies. Sometimes C-Map is more accurate. As we have both available, we compare and note which seems to reflect reality best.
We carry paper charts, but use them less and less. The color, detail, and ease of use push us to electronic charts. We have numerous back-up GPS alternatives on-board, although the GPS system remains a single-point failure risk. It's possible to make paper copies of key portions of electronic charts, e.g. anchorages, harbor approaches, etc. We sometimes do that.
The "hacked" version of Maxsea used by most cruisers requires Windows XP, and that's becoming more difficult to get and maintain. When our current, 3yr old laptop dies, we'll use OpenCPN running Win7 on the laptop at the nav station and continue using Navionics on the Droid and/or iPad at the helm.
Drew
SV Revelation SM390,
On the hard, Pangkor Marina, Malaysia

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Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

Drew,



A very nice synopsis of the current situation. I have just learned that the
prior owner has left charts from the Med to the Caribbean on board. I am
going to Antigua next week and will evaluate the system. My hunch is one
can get by with handheld gps (I carried two, just in case) while in the
Caribbean. For the trickier spots like Mayreau and the Grenadiens I would
take a look at the paper.



I am behind the curve…Droid, Iphone, Ipad. I have to commit to move in that
direction. I need phone and internet more than I like to admit. While on
the technology subject; What new cell phone would you suggest for use in
foreign systems? I was at a Verizon store yesterday and the rep told me
that a Droid was her pick…and I noticed that it has a Skype app that I would
think would be great when communicating with friends back home.



Duncan



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gaffney, Drew
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android





Duncan,
We have both iPad and Android with Navionics. There are some differences,
but both are excellent and a welcome alternative to Maxsea and C-Maps 2009.
We actually run both Maxsea at the nav station on a laptop and either the
Droid or the iPad at the helm.
The iPad has a bigger screen, which is nice, but the Droid can be expanded
for whatever detail one wishes.
Both work without cell coverage. The iPad must include wireless, as that's
where the GPS resides. The Droid works when in airplane mode (wireless off),
but the iPad requires the phone to be on, although cell coverage is not
needed. There's an irritating error message without cell coverage, but it's
easily dismissed without affecting navigation.
The Droid has smaller, chart sets. Australia and all of Indonesia, Malaysia,
and Thailand are on a single Navionics chart set for iPad, but require
multiple modules for Droids.
Interestingly, the "up-to-date" Navionics charts are often more up-to-date,
but not always. Sometimes, there are major inaccuracies. Sometimes C-Map is
more accurate. As we have both available, we compare and note which seems to
reflect reality best.
We carry paper charts, but use them less and less. The color, detail, and
ease of use push us to electronic charts. We have numerous back-up GPS
alternatives on-board, although the GPS system remains a single-point
failure risk. It's possible to make paper copies of key portions of
electronic charts, e.g. anchorages, harbor approaches, etc. We sometimes do
that.
The "hacked" version of Maxsea used by most cruisers requires Windows XP,
and that's becoming more difficult to get and maintain. When our current,
3yr old laptop dies, we'll use OpenCPN running Win7 on the laptop at the nav
station and continue using Navionics on the Droid and/or iPad at the helm.
Drew
SV Revelation SM390,
On the hard, Pangkor Marina, Malaysia

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Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Gaffney, Drew <drew.gaffney@...>
 

Duncan,
We have both iPad and Android with Navionics. There are some differences, but both are excellent and a welcome alternative to Maxsea and C-Maps 2009. We actually run both Maxsea at the nav station on a laptop and either the Droid or the iPad at the helm.
The iPad has a bigger screen, which is nice, but the Droid can be expanded for whatever detail one wishes.
Both work without cell coverage. The iPad must include wireless, as that's where the GPS resides. The Droid works when in airplane mode (wireless off), but the iPad requires the phone to be on, although cell coverage is not needed. There's an irritating error message without cell coverage, but it's easily dismissed without affecting navigation.
The Droid has smaller, chart sets. Australia and all of Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand are on a single Navionics chart set for iPad, but require multiple modules for Droids.
Interestingly, the "up-to-date" Navionics charts are often more up-to-date, but not always. Sometimes, there are major inaccuracies. Sometimes C-Map is more accurate. As we have both available, we compare and note which seems to reflect reality best.
We carry paper charts, but use them less and less. The color, detail, and ease of use push us to electronic charts. We have numerous back-up GPS alternatives on-board, although the GPS system remains a single-point failure risk. It's possible to make paper copies of key portions of electronic charts, e.g. anchorages, harbor approaches, etc. We sometimes do that.
The "hacked" version of Maxsea used by most cruisers requires Windows XP, and that's becoming more difficult to get and maintain. When our current, 3yr old laptop dies, we'll use OpenCPN running Win7 on the laptop at the nav station and continue using Navionics on the Droid and/or iPad at the helm.
Drew
SV Revelation SM390,
On the hard, Pangkor Marina, Malaysia


Amel Euros 41 #240 "Gran Roque" for sale

tresliebres
 

Hi, I'm owner of a Amel Euros with which he intended to circumnavigate starting next year. But family circumstances have truncated my plans, so I changed my sailing plans and look for a smaller boat. So, I put my Amel for sale. It has Spanish flag and is in very good condition. The engine, a Volvo 75 hp MD21A has about 2200 hours, works very well, and has recently been reviewed. The boat has a Raymarine C80 with sounder module, AIS and radar Raytheon. It also has a 730 Cetrek autopilot so far it works great. If any member of the group is interested in the boat will be happy to send pictures and all the information you need. Oh, and most importantly, the price ... 39,000 euros. A true gift


Re: [Amel] Mango model for selling

Frederic Houdaille <fhoudaille@...>
 

Hello Luis,
 
Thanks for getting back to me.
 
I am indeed interested in pursuing this conversation and look forward to getting pics and specs.
 
Have a good night!
 
Frederic


________________________________
From: Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@yahoo.es>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Mango model for selling



 

ALOYSIUS / AMEL MANGO
I apologize for the delay in my answer. I am preparing a set of pictures and details on the boat as soon as possible. The boat is on the Royal Sailing Club of Alicante, southeast of Spain. She has an Spanish flag. I always sail myself the boat and is maintained at top condition. No osmosis at all, every year the hull is checked by professionals. Engine, generator, electricity, electronics and all spares have been renewed peridodicaly e.g. the engine  NANNI DIESEL  115 cv is almost new , around 1000 hr, the generator  a Master volt  is almost new as well.
Electronics include  Simrad autopilot and a second one  Neco autopilot. Electronics   are  Simrad ( plotter),2 GPS,  Furuno radar.. Vetus bow thruster.. Central heating, full set of sails, auxiliar Avon for 6 pax + engine, one electric winch..  
A comprehensive list will be provide and a set of pictures. Beacause the boat is not yet advertised I have not prepared this information.
The boat is ready to sail anywhere and she is full equipped. If I ask myself what she has not have: no air condition either water desalator.
About the price I have consulted to professionals and they recommend a price about 135,000 € as a very good opportunity on value/cost  relationship,however this is an orientative price.
Please let me know if you are interested to send you detail information.
Regards,
Luis

Catedrático de Ingeniería Geológica
Universidad Complutense de Madrid
www.gonzalezdevallejo.com

________________________________
De: Frederic Houdaille <fhoudaille@yahoo.com>
Para: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Enviado: viernes 18 de noviembre de 2011 16:33
Asunto: Re: [Amel] Mango model for selling

 
Hi Luis,
Could you please email me the specifics on your boat (as well as pictures). I am actively looking for the right Amel at the right price for our planned family trip.
Thanks.
Fred

________________________________
From: Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@yahoo.es>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: [Amel] Mango model for selling

 

I have a Mango since 1994. She is  perfect  condition, professional maintenence, and most of the esential parts are all new, eg.engine,generator, electricity,electronics,water pumps ... ready to sail around the world. Unfortunatly due to retirement I am to change my sailing plans . The boat is moored in  Alicante Royal  Sailing Club ( East Spain).
I have not yet advertished for selling, but any of the Amel´s owners group  interested  are welcome to address me.
Regards,
Luis
Aloysius  
Alicante,Spain 
 
Catedrático de Ingeniería Geológica
Universidad Complutense de Madrid
www.gonzalezdevallejo.com

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De: oo7.larshansen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Para: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: jueves 17 de noviembre de 2011 18:36
Asunto: Re: [Amel] Earlier models of the Mango/Maramu

 

Thanx for all the answers!

Its my fault, that I didn't describe the reason for my question. My wife and I are considering a used Mango for a tour around the world. I guess we will start in the Mediterranean and the go all the way, if my wife (and I) can comply with the life on board.
Long time ago I decided (Yes I have asked my wife) that a Amel Super Maramu would be my preferred choice, but as time goes on my general economy is decreasing (hope that's an Ok term!)
Therefore I have been looking more at elder Amel boats as the Mango. But I can't understand if there should have been made a 52 feet model, and a 49/48 foot model, I mean that the difference is to small to make any difference in the cost of the boat, and why should anybody choose a 48/49 if you can get 52 feet. So what sizes of the Amel Mango has been made, and what are the differences between these models?

Lars

________________________________
Luis I. González de Vallejo

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Luis I. González de Vallejo

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Re: [Amel] Mango model for selling

Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@...>
 

ALOYSIUS / AMEL MANGO
I apologize for the delay in my answer. I am preparing a set of pictures and details on the boat as soon as possible. The boat is on the Royal Sailing Club of Alicante, southeast of Spain. She has an Spanish flag. I always sail myself the boat and is maintained at top condition. No osmosis at all, every year the hull is checked by professionals. Engine, generator, electricity, electronics and all spares have been renewed peridodicaly e.g. the engine  NANNI DIESEL  115 cv is almost new , around 1000 hr, the generator  a Master volt  is almost new as well.
Electronics include  Simrad autopilot and a second one  Neco autopilot. Electronics   are  Simrad ( plotter),2 GPS,  Furuno radar.. Vetus bow thruster.. Central heating, full set of sails, auxiliar Avon for 6 pax + engine, one electric winch..  
A comprehensive list will be provide and a set of pictures. Beacause the boat is not yet advertised I have not prepared this information.
The boat is ready to sail anywhere and she is full equipped. If I ask myself what she has not have: no air condition either water desalator.
About the price I have consulted to professionals and they recommend a price about 135,000 € as a very good opportunity on value/cost  relationship,however this is an orientative price.
Please let me know if you are interested to send you detail information.
Regards,
Luis


Catedrático de Ingeniería Geológica
Universidad Complutense de Madrid
www.gonzalezdevallejo.com


________________________________
De: Frederic Houdaille <fhoudaille@yahoo.com>
Para: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Enviado: viernes 18 de noviembre de 2011 16:33
Asunto: Re: [Amel] Mango model for selling


 
Hi Luis,
Could you please email me the specifics on your boat (as well as pictures). I am actively looking for the right Amel at the right price for our planned family trip.
Thanks.
Fred


________________________________
From: Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@yahoo.es>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: [Amel] Mango model for selling


 

I have a Mango since 1994. She is  perfect  condition, professional maintenence, and most of the esential parts are all new, eg.engine,generator, electricity,electronics,water pumps ... ready to sail around the world. Unfortunatly due to retirement I am to change my sailing plans . The boat is moored in  Alicante Royal  Sailing Club ( East Spain).
I have not yet advertished for selling, but any of the Amel´s owners group  interested  are welcome to address me.
Regards,
Luis
Aloysius  
Alicante,Spain 
 
Catedrático de Ingeniería Geológica
Universidad Complutense de Madrid
www.gonzalezdevallejo.com

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De: oo7.larshansen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Para: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: jueves 17 de noviembre de 2011 18:36
Asunto: Re: [Amel] Earlier models of the Mango/Maramu

 

Thanx for all the answers!

Its my fault, that I didn't describe the reason for my question. My wife and I are considering a used Mango for a tour around the world. I guess we will start in the Mediterranean and the go all the way, if my wife (and I) can comply with the life on board.
Long time ago I decided (Yes I have asked my wife) that a Amel Super Maramu would be my preferred choice, but as time goes on my general economy is decreasing (hope that's an Ok term!)
Therefore I have been looking more at elder Amel boats as the Mango. But I can't understand if there should have been made a 52 feet model, and a 49/48 foot model, I mean that the difference is to small to make any difference in the cost of the boat, and why should anybody choose a 48/49 if you can get 52 feet. So what sizes of the Amel Mango has been made, and what are the differences between these models?

Lars

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Luis I. González de Vallejo

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Luis I. González de Vallejo

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Re: Hydraulic brake frrom amel

eric freedman
 

Hi,
I am awaiting a new spring from Amel. I will then take the cylinder apart when I get to the boat in January and see what is what. I will report back.
Fair Winds
Eric
SM 376 Kimberlite

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Eric,

Please keep us posted as there are a number of us who may need this fix.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@> wrote:

I think this makes sense.

ERIC
SM 376







Dear Eric,



According to your description and our experience, we think that the spring
located inside the unit may be worn out. Could you please tell us if you
have dismantled the unit to check if this spring is in good condition or
not?



Thank you in anticipation for your comments.



With our best regards,



Maud/Chantiers AMEL

<mailto:sav@> sav@







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Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Dave_Benjamin
 

Duncan,

We still carry the paper charts. I don't know about outputting from smart phone to another device, however you can use a tablet Android or I-Pad with navigation software. A good friend of mine has impressed me with his I-Pad. It gives you a great nav display and the software was only about $60 USD. I'm sure the Android apps work in similar manner on Android tablets.

Cheers,
Dave

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Duncan Hagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@...> wrote:

Well, Dave that may just push me over to a smart phone! $4! A question; can an Android app be used with a chart plotter or sent to a lap top? I spent many years in the Caribbean using paper charts. Electronic will be new to me. I presume that they can be a real benefit. A hand held GPS works great if one has entered the precise coordinates of the mark.
On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Dave_Benjamin wrote:

I've been using the Android app from Navionics. While I've only used it a bit here in California, I am impressed so far. I think it was $4 USD for "US West" and well worth it.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@> wrote:

Hi,
While I have commercial versions of Captain and MaxSea, I prefer the software of OPEN CPN (free sofware) with the C-Map charts i purchased with MaxSea.
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I understand that OPEN CPN is available for Android:http://fr.androidzoom.com/android_applications/communication/openvpn-installer_epia.html

Serge, V Opera , Mango #51
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De : Giovanni Testa <gtesta23@>
À : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Mardi 29 Novembre 2011 8h38
Objet : Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

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Hi to all,
do you have some experiences with new navionics app. for I.TAP2 or Samsung Android ?
fair winds
Gianni
sv EUTIKIA
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Piller
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

Hi Duncan, we have being running ENC charting software (very good and very cheap) with a GPS connection that has worked very well. We also use C-map for our chart plotter that has worked very well and has NEVER not put us in the right place. As to over lays with weather you can look at a number of GRIB files that will over lay... Once off shore it becomes a matter of how good you sat phone is. As SSB generally is to slow to get reliable information all the time. We like C-map as it has a higher level/density of depths and always puts buoy way points on the safe side of the buoy.

Good luck
Richard
SM 209 on Challenge for Sale in Annapolis

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From: wdhagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: [Amel] Navigation Charts

I know enought about computers to be dangerous. I have an Apple Mac OS-X, 4g processor and 8g RAM and a Toshiba laptop running Windows 7 with 2.5g processor and 4g RAM. I prefer the windows system for day to day use, but the Apple would be an option to move to the boat as a photo/entertainment/navigation station.

All I have from my old boat is some Imray Isolare paper charts. I am thinking of adding so modern charts that tie to the Amel 54 system. I particularly like the idea of having weather overlay on active charts.

Any suggestion on makers of charts and how either of these systems could interface?

Duncan

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Re: Hydraulic brake frrom amel

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

Please keep us posted as there are a number of us who may need this fix.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I think this makes sense.

ERIC
SM 376







Dear Eric,



According to your description and our experience, we think that the spring
located inside the unit may be worn out. Could you please tell us if you
have dismantled the unit to check if this spring is in good condition or
not?



Thank you in anticipation for your comments.



With our best regards,



Maud/Chantiers AMEL

<mailto:sav@...> sav@...







_____



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