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Re: Free or Tie-on the steering wheel

Paul Osterberg
 

I use shokcord to secure the steering wheel that give some flex.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Lagos, Portugal 

Re: Mast foot rubber seal pad

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Ruedi,
Strange answer you have got from Amel as the crew in Martinique has even build a special rig to replace the pad with a standing mast. It is meant to dampen the forces of the mast on the deck when sailing turbulent seas. Mine was replaced when I bought the boat (July 2018), nine years old. The one under the mizzen does not receive much pounding so it stays much better over time.

Regards,

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: Mast foot rubber seal pad

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi Ruedi,

The pad under my mast is pretty feeble and crumbly. I have scraped it out and regularly blast it with fresh water. It is barely visible now. As for the rig tension, to my eye the main mast on Amelia could do with a touch more rake aft, so I have left the forstay and staysail stay and baby stay  as they were and tensioned the rest a turn or two. It is all bar taught and even when sailing in say 15 knots true wind the lee shrouds are still very firm. I have also had a good look at the mast base when sailing upwind at 9 knots boat speed, dropping off waves. There is no movement. So I am happy to leave it be until such a time that I pull the mast down when I will have a new Tufnol one made.

Happy sailing

Nick
Amelia 
AML 54-019

On 18 Sep 2019, at 16:47, Roque <ediroque@...> wrote:

Hi Ruedi

If the leak you are worried about is water getting inside the boat, then don’t. This pad is not intended to seal that.

It is made out of PU (polyurethane), 90 SH (“hardness”), 5 mm thick. Several A54 reported a short life span of this material. Mine was paper thin after 8 years. The Mizzen pad usually holds longer.

I have discussed this with a few experienced Amel owners and with a very knowledgeable Naval Engineer who build boats over 100 ft. and it seems that replacing it with phenolic laminated (such as Tufnol), would be an improvement. It is a little harder (103 SH), though. 

Regarding Amel statement that “Even if it looks ugly and very worn there is no need to change it”, I would only add that, as it gets thinner and thinner, you have to check and adjust the standing rigging. 

Enjoy Sicily

Roque

Attika A54 117

Paraty- Rio de Janeiro


Em qua, 18 de set de 2019 às 06:48, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> escreveu:
Hi Folks 

The mast foot rubber pad on my boat is quite brown and very brittle. I’m a bit nervous that it will leak one day (see pictures). 
I heard from Barry “Lady Penelope II” that he changed the Mast-Foot Rubber Pad in Hieres recently. 

 

I asked AMEL and got the answer that they haven’t done it very often and I should not worry about it. “Even it looks ugly and very worn there is no need to change it”, Amel said. In Hieres they did it first time 2 weeks ago with “Lady Penelope II”. Barry mentioned the rubber was like fluid and I’m confused about the answers from AMEL. 
What is your experience and who has done it on their SM or 54 over the years? 

 

Thanks a lot and kind regards
Ruedi 

 

SY-WASABI 
AMEL 54#55
Sicily



Re: Mast foot rubber seal pad

Roque
 

Hi Ruedi

If the leak you are worried about is water getting inside the boat, then don’t. This pad is not intended to seal that.

It is made out of PU (polyurethane), 90 SH (“hardness”), 5 mm thick. Several A54 reported a short life span of this material. Mine was paper thin after 8 years. The Mizzen pad usually holds longer.

I have discussed this with a few experienced Amel owners and with a very knowledgeable Naval Engineer who build boats over 100 ft. and it seems that replacing it with phenolic laminated (such as Tufnol), would be an improvement. It is a little harder (103 SH), though. 

Regarding Amel statement that “Even if it looks ugly and very worn there is no need to change it”, I would only add that, as it gets thinner and thinner, you have to check and adjust the standing rigging. 

Enjoy Sicily

Roque

Attika A54 117

Paraty- Rio de Janeiro


Em qua, 18 de set de 2019 às 06:48, Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> escreveu:

Hi Folks 

The mast foot rubber pad on my boat is quite brown and very brittle. I’m a bit nervous that it will leak one day (see pictures). 

I heard from Barry “Lady Penelope II” that he changed the Mast-Foot Rubber Pad in Hieres recently. 

 

I asked AMEL and got the answer that they haven’t done it very often and I should not worry about it. “Even it looks ugly and very worn there is no need to change it”, Amel said. In Hieres they did it first time 2 weeks ago with “Lady Penelope II”. Barry mentioned the rubber was like fluid and I’m confused about the answers from AMEL. 

What is your experience and who has done it on their SM or 54 over the years? 

 

Thanks a lot and kind regards

Ruedi 

 

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55

Sicily

Re: Amel OEM Rigging

Gerhard Mueller
 

I just get new shrouds here in Kalamata, Greece, manufactured by a shop in Athen, Greece and fitted by the sailmaker here. For the Sharki the total is 2800,- Euro.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

Re: OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars

Gerhard Mueller
 

Dennis is correct.
No problem to order a machine shop for a new disk. Often the pin is still OK.
I have changed all disks.


--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

Re: OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars

sbmesasailor
 

Hi Jeremy,

I had a failure just like yours and it was no problem and not very expensive to have a machine shop produce a new disk and pin.

Dennis
Libertad
Maramu #121

Re: Re :[AmelYachtOwners] OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars

Matt Salatino
 

Don Green has a business of making sheaves and rebuilding Genoa cars and blocks.
You can find him on FaceBook and the Sailing and Cruising Page.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Sep 18, 2019, at 1:37 AM, christian alby via Groups.Io <calbyy@...> wrote:

Good day to you,
Try rigrite.com (Rig-rite Inc.)
They are the experts on vintage rigging (goiot incld) & their catalog is well documented.
I need to replace my travelers also & will send them a request.
Good hunting
Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - Canet


Le mer., sept. 18, 2019 à 2:28, mr_hermanns
<jeremy@...> a écrit :
Hey there!

One of my Mizzen Sheet Cars has died on me - the center disk just shattered when using it last sail.

its a odd ‘Y’ shaped track and any replacement or part advice would be awesome!
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--
Jeremy Hermanns - "Jer"
SVCerulean.com
Maramu #105
Marina Del Rey, CA
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Re: Free or Tie-on the steering wheel

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Hi Ruedi,

The best is to fix it, but if you fix it it MUST be without any gap (possibility that the rude can move) ... else do not fix it ...

JLMERTZ

CottonBay



Le 18/09/2019 à 11:52, Rudolf Waldispuehl a écrit :

Dear Amel'ias

I’m curious about experience with tie on the steering wheel and maybe someone has a proven technical answer. 

When I’m on Anchor or in a Marina I always fix/tie the steering wheel in the cockpit with a rope. After this summer in many anchorages with some swell I was not sure anymore if these is the right solution. 

 

Always when small waves hitting the rudder the wheel tried to turn in one or other direction and there is a noticeable noise (little dong) on the cables. 

When I was loosing the rope then the noise was notable under the aft bed because the Autopilot linear drive gear is moving and made noise.   

I’m now quite unsecure which option is the better, -  fix the wheel or let it move around?  Both ways are working on either AP Linear drive and/or steering cables. 

 

Would be the best option to make a fix/tie on the rudder quadrant to stop moving? Has someone done it?
What is your experience and long-term observations? 

 

Thanks for your thought and best regards

Ruedi

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55


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Re: Amel OEM Rigging

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Hi,

In France with our President Emmanuel Macron we are Champion in the World for Taxes and Taxes and Taxes !




Le 18/09/2019 à 11:51, Eric Meury a écrit :
hello.

I just got the quote for new rigging from ACMO.  Background.  my boat is an Amel Santorin. Ketch.  Boat is in Georgia USA.  The quote i received is for 6197 Euro for the parts plus     684 TPF  (some sort of france tax) and then another 1400 for shipping.

I have no idea what TPF is but google says it is some sort of transfer of ownership of Realestate?  and 1400 seems a bit high for shipping?  Thoughts.  

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Free or Tie-on the steering wheel

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Dear Amel'ias

I’m curious about experience with tie on the steering wheel and maybe someone has a proven technical answer. 

When I’m on Anchor or in a Marina I always fix/tie the steering wheel in the cockpit with a rope. After this summer in many anchorages with some swell I was not sure anymore if these is the right solution. 

 

Always when small waves hitting the rudder the wheel tried to turn in one or other direction and there is a noticeable noise (little dong) on the cables. 

When I was loosing the rope then the noise was notable under the aft bed because the Autopilot linear drive gear is moving and made noise.   

I’m now quite unsecure which option is the better, -  fix the wheel or let it move around?  Both ways are working on either AP Linear drive and/or steering cables. 

 

Would be the best option to make a fix/tie on the rudder quadrant to stop moving? Has someone done it?
What is your experience and long-term observations? 

 

Thanks for your thought and best regards

Ruedi

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55

Amel OEM Rigging

Eric Meury
 

hello.

I just got the quote for new rigging from ACMO.  Background.  my boat is an Amel Santorin. Ketch.  Boat is in Georgia USA.  The quote i received is for 6197 Euro for the parts plus     684 TPF  (some sort of france tax) and then another 1400 for shipping.

I have no idea what TPF is but google says it is some sort of transfer of ownership of Realestate?  and 1400 seems a bit high for shipping?  Thoughts.  

Mast foot rubber seal pad

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Folks 

The mast foot rubber pad on my boat is quite brown and very brittle. I’m a bit nervous that it will leak one day (see pictures). 

I heard from Barry “Lady Penelope II” that he changed the Mast-Foot Rubber Pad in Hieres recently. 

 

I asked AMEL and got the answer that they haven’t done it very often and I should not worry about it. “Even it looks ugly and very worn there is no need to change it”, Amel said. In Hieres they did it first time 2 weeks ago with “Lady Penelope II”. Barry mentioned the rubber was like fluid and I’m confused about the answers from AMEL. 

What is your experience and who has done it on their SM or 54 over the years? 

 

Thanks a lot and kind regards

Ruedi 

 

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55

Sicily

Bow Thruster

heinz@quetzal.berlin
 

Hello 
I lost the bottom of my bow thruster on my Sm 2000
Why I don't know. I am currently in Berlin and would like to make a new one. I will be back in Tahiti on the 30. Can someone tell me the dimensions and the angle of the bottom?
Fair Winds 
Heinz 
QUETZAL, Sm 2000, 292

Re :[AmelYachtOwners] OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

Good day to you,
Try rigrite.com (Rig-rite Inc.)
They are the experts on vintage rigging (goiot incld) & their catalog is well documented.
I need to replace my travelers also & will send them a request.
Good hunting
Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - Canet


Le mer., sept. 18, 2019 à 2:28, mr_hermanns
<jeremy@...> a écrit :
Hey there!

One of my Mizzen Sheet Cars has died on me - the center disk just shattered when using it last sail.

its a odd ‘Y’ shaped track and any replacement or part advice would be awesome!

--
Jeremy Hermanns - "Jer"
SVCerulean.com
Maramu #105
Marina Del Rey, CA

Re: OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He Jeremie ,
I is from Goiot , i look for some 10 yaers ago for my Amel Eiros 39 but it was for me not possible to find .

Good luck Elja
SM Balu


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars

mr_hermanns
 

Hey there!

One of my Mizzen Sheet Cars has died on me - the center disk just shattered when using it last sail.

its a odd ‘Y’ shaped track and any replacement or part advice would be awesome!

--
Jeremy Hermanns - "Jer"
SVCerulean.com
Maramu #105
Marina Del Rey, CA

Re: headsail furler locking pin.

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thank you Olivier, I appreciate your knowledgeable input.

Kind Regards

Danny

On 18 September 2019 at 01:21 "Beaute Olivier via Groups.Io" <atlanticyachtsurvey@...> wrote:

Hello Danny,

the type of locking pin you have is bolted into the aluminum sheave. The hole in the aluminum is tapped and the stainless steel unit is threaded. It is originally mounted with hard LOCTITE thread compound, and a nylon washer on top of the aluminum.
Ther is no nut at the backside of the pulley. You will certainly need to heat the area of the threaded part. You should use a small portable LPG welding tool in order not to heat the pulley too much (and damage the paint around).
Once removed, you should be able to drill a new hole for the pin. Try to make it 1 mm wider than the pin, and put some silicone grease or some sticky anti-corrosion stuff to avoid stainless steel from damaging the aluminum drive plate (the new hole will not be anodized).

Good luck.

Olivier


 


 

Re: Color number for SM2K Redline

 

You might want to think about AwlGrip Desert Sand, which is the new trim color for Amels since the introduction of the 55.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Hi All

We would also be interested to get the correct paint number for the trim on the Amel Redline models?

Is there anyone out there that has this information, please?

Kindest regards

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Vuda Point Marina, Fiji Islands

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:40 AM Olaf Bauer <olaf.bauer@...> wrote:
Hello AMELians,

could someone provide the color numbers for a SM2K Redline for the white hull, the red water line and the red stripes at the top of the hull at the side.

Thanks so much :-)

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Katchopine, SM2K 392

currently inTrinidad



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

Re: headsail furler locking pin.

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Danny,

the type of locking pin you have is bolted into the aluminum sheave. The hole in the aluminum is tapped and the stainless steel unit is threaded. It is originally mounted with hard LOCTITE thread compound, and a nylon washer on top of the aluminum.
Ther is no nut at the backside of the pulley. You will certainly need to heat the area of the threaded part. You should use a small portable LPG welding tool in order not to heat the pulley too much (and damage the paint around).
Once removed, you should be able to drill a new hole for the pin. Try to make it 1 mm wider than the pin, and put some silicone grease or some sticky anti-corrosion stuff to avoid stainless steel from damaging the aluminum drive plate (the new hole will not be anodized).

Good luck.

Olivier