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Re: Water in Forward Head Bilge and Bow Thruster

ngtnewington Newington
 

No but i will post one when I get back to the boat later this week.

Nick
Amelia AML 54-019

On 14 Oct 2019, at 14:56, Arno Luijten via Groups.Io <aluijten=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Nick,

Do you have a picture of the place where you had this leak?

Thanks,

Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Outhaul

 

Paul, I understand. However, if there were a source for the worm & spur gear, the gearbox could certainly be rebuilt. Amel previously stocked the Bronze Spur gear. They either made a decision to stop stocking it, or it became unavailable. I always thought that it was problematic for Amel to sell the bronze spur gear, because possibly the harder worm gear could also damaged. This would cause owners to be unhappy with the purchase of one, then having to purchase a second.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 11:33 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
Bill!
Sorry for my lack of knowledge I thought the whole gear box was called a worm gear, anyhow I would like to have a whole gear box as a spare, not only the Spur gear
Paul

Re: Outhaul

Paul Osterberg
 

Bill!
Sorry for my lack of knowledge I thought the whole gear box was called a worm gear, anyhow I would like to have a whole gear box as a spare, not only the Spur gear
Paul

Permanent 24 v to 12 v converter

Paul Osterberg
 

I’m surprised about the function of the Permanent 24 v to 12 v converter. If I understand it right the only original function is to keep the memory in the FM/AM radio even when the main switch is off.

The current when it is on is ca 0,5 volt, that is a lot of Ah during a day, or during a two-week crossing it’s close to 165Ah. That is a lot of waste unless you regularly run your gen set but we try to rely on solar.

The only way to turn it off is to pull out the fuse. To me that is overkill to have such a heavy-duty converter for such a little use.

 When my friend changes his car battery, he connects an ordinary 9 volt battery to the stereo and that is enough to keep the memory.

I have connected some 12 v appliances to the permanent converter, 12v led light in the galley, and a few USB outlets.

Have I missed anything about the function of the Permanent converter?

Paul on SY Kerpa SAM#259 Lagos

Re: Outhaul

 

Paul,

Normally it is the Spur Gear that wears out.
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--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 11:02 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
I have a few questions about the Outhaul
1. How do I secure that I got a water tight connection between the Electric motor and the gear box? see picture there is no gasket
2. What shall I use to "lubricate" the shaft with to avoid it get stuck again? Of course I will loosen it on a regular basis for "lubrication"
3. Anyone know where I can buy a new Leroy Somer worm gear see picture . Amel ask 730 € plus VAT and freight that will exceed 1000 € not reasonable

Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Wintering in Lagos, Portugal

Re: Companion way for removal

Michael Mueller
 

Nice Job Mark and Debbie,

is there a reason why you choose to run the wood fiber structure horizontal and not vertical?
I assume it was done be the wood shop you had mentioned before.

Sorry I missed you in Annapolis.

kind regards
Michael & Robyn
RIPPLE SM2K #417

Re: Steering Wheel remove

 

Jose,

Maybe the attached will help you.


--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:27 AM JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:
How to remove the steering wheel? The metal
plate with screws do not
move... maybe some glue? Any tip?

Outhaul

Paul Osterberg
 

I have a few questions about the Outhaul
1. How do I secure that I got a water tight connection between the Electric motor and the gear box? see picture there is no gasket
2. What shall I use to "lubricate" the shaft with to avoid it get stuck again? Of course I will loosen it on a regular basis for "lubrication"
3. Anyone know where I can buy a new Leroy Somer worm gear see picture . Amel ask 730 € plus VAT and freight that will exceed 1000 € not reasonable

Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Wintering in Lagos, Portugal

Re: Companion way for removal

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

The other alternative is to replace the companionway door.  Take measurements for height then section the door with a saw and remove the pieces.  Select a wood of your choice and using the existing door as template for width and thickness, match the Amel door very closely, fabricate the sections and glue in place.  In our case we used teak. 
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Re: Companion way for removal

scentstone
 

Thank you Eric for the first extensive tutorial, 
Thank you Ian for the alternative product
Thank you Bill for the very insightful questions.

Even if there was some previous threads about this subject in the forum, we all need to clarify the most secure way to replace the veneer using a wood product and placing it also under the external guides because, in some rough conditions, if the job isn't made in using a single sheet properly glued, it can drive to a blocked companionway after sometime in bad weather which is highly undesirable…
Ian, may be have you some images and a more detailed process and we can start here to make a detailed how-to. 
If we succeed, I'll update my external veener and post here also the details and images.
Kind regards
FF

Steering Wheel remove

JOSE PRIETO
 

How to remove the steering wheel? The metal
plate with screws do not
move... maybe some glue? Any tip?

Re: Companion way for removal

Ian Townsend
 

Paper not removed. We used contact cement. We did not remove the door. We spent lots of time making sure of the fit so that it could be cut right to the trim on the top and the sides. We were extremely careful with the placement. Of course, the bottom edge did not matter as we had cut it so it went below the gap/weatherproofing. Also, as with all veneer, the rolling is critical. 


Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:04 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Ian,

I read that the product you used has a paper backing. Was this removed for installation?
What did you use for glue or cement? 
Were you able to get the new veneer between the door and the outside trim?

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 2:09 AM Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:
We used this veneer, ordered through Amazon. 

On Oct 14, 2019, at 2:30 AM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,

To apply laminate contact cement is used. Please remember to let both  surfaces dry before joining the laminate to the door,

When the two touch they cannot be separated, be careful.. I chose Formica brand laminate only because it looks closest to teak here in the USA. Just pick the one that you like, they are all basically the same. Just be sure to get the thicker variety of the laminate. Although the look is identical they often come in a very thin and a thicker style.

Fair Winds

Eric

sm

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thomas Kleman
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 11:05 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companion way for removal

 

Eric- that looks awesome and has inspired us to put this project on the list. Can you describe the glue you used and did you consider any other faux veneers ?

Re: Companion way for removal

 

Ian,

I read that the product you used has a paper backing. Was this removed for installation?
What did you use for glue or cement? 
Were you able to get the new veneer between the door and the outside trim?

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 2:09 AM Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:
We used this veneer, ordered through Amazon. 

On Oct 14, 2019, at 2:30 AM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,

To apply laminate contact cement is used. Please remember to let both  surfaces dry before joining the laminate to the door,

When the two touch they cannot be separated, be careful.. I chose Formica brand laminate only because it looks closest to teak here in the USA. Just pick the one that you like, they are all basically the same. Just be sure to get the thicker variety of the laminate. Although the look is identical they often come in a very thin and a thicker style.

Fair Winds

Eric

sm

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thomas Kleman
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 11:05 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companion way for removal

 

Eric- that looks awesome and has inspired us to put this project on the list. Can you describe the glue you used and did you consider any other faux veneers ?

Re: Water in Forward Head Bilge and Bow Thruster

Arno Luijten <aluijten@...>
 

Hi Nick,

Do you have a picture of the place where you had this leak?

Thanks,

Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: New Genoa sail for Amel 54

Paul Brown
 

Wow Joerg, 11,000nm already - your a keen sailor

I’m really happy with my Incidences sails, they are so tough and showing no real ware after 6.5 years and after I think about 7500nm, I’m ordering probably a code 0 and a cruising Shute from them tailored for my 55 which should be great for light wind easy sailing

Regards, Paul... Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Oct 2019, at 00:26, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

Hi Barry, the A55 comes with Incidences sails made from Hydranet.  I have seen a lot of sails over my racing career and these are outstanding. No a single stitching has opened, no chafe, shape is still good.  Incidences I believe supplies a lot of sails for the French Open 60 fleet and they seem to know a thing or two about building durable sails.  If they’re not a lot more expensive than the competition, I will buy new sails for my boat from them.  Luckily, after 11000 miles they dare still excellent sails.  Cheers. Joerg 

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem

Re: New Genoa sail for Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Hi Joerg, 

Thank's for the answer/post and information.
I remember seeing both your and Paul's sails, I didn't know that they were Hydranet.
The quotes from Incidences and Q Sails are really much the same, both recommending Hydranet.
I just know my Genoa will not last another few years and would like to replace it before too long. I am planning on using our new Parasailor for the crossings, I really don't like the pole on the 54. Paul got me to use it on our run from Tunisia to Sardinia and it was difficult.

Very Best Regards

Barry and Penny
"S/V Lady Penelope II"
Amel. 54. #17
Almerimar, Spain

On Monday, October 14, 2019, 2:43:10 PM GMT+1, Arnold Mente via Groups.Io <Arnold.mente@...> wrote:


Hi Barry, I was asking for a offer to SM last year. Incidence is answering very fast and keep in mind in autumn they are make a discount with 10%!!!

Arnold Mente
SY Zephyr
SM203

Am 14.10.2019 um 15:26 schrieb Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...>:

Hi Barry, the A55 comes with Incidences sails made from Hydranet.  I have seen a lot of sails over my racing career and these are outstanding. No a single stitching has opened, no chafe, shape is still good.  Incidences I believe supplies a lot of sails for the French Open 60 fleet and they seem to know a thing or two about building durable sails.  If they’re not a lot more expensive than the competition, I will buy new sails for my boat from them.  Luckily, after 11000 miles they dare still excellent sails.  Cheers. Joerg 

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem



--
SY Zephyr SM203

Re: New Genoa sail for Amel 54

Arnold Mente
 

Hi Barry, I was asking for a offer to SM last year. Incidence is answering very fast and keep in mind in autumn they are make a discount with 10%!!!

Arnold Mente
SY Zephyr
SM203

Am 14.10.2019 um 15:26 schrieb Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...>:

Hi Barry, the A55 comes with Incidences sails made from Hydranet.  I have seen a lot of sails over my racing career and these are outstanding. No a single stitching has opened, no chafe, shape is still good.  Incidences I believe supplies a lot of sails for the French Open 60 fleet and they seem to know a thing or two about building durable sails.  If they’re not a lot more expensive than the competition, I will buy new sails for my boat from them.  Luckily, after 11000 miles they dare still excellent sails.  Cheers. Joerg 

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem



--
SY Zephyr SM203

Re: New Genoa sail for Amel 54

Joerg Esdorn
 

Hi Barry, the A55 comes with Incidences sails made from Hydranet.  I have seen a lot of sails over my racing career and these are outstanding. No a single stitching has opened, no chafe, shape is still good.  Incidences I believe supplies a lot of sails for the French Open 60 fleet and they seem to know a thing or two about building durable sails.  If they’re not a lot more expensive than the competition, I will buy new sails for my boat from them.  Luckily, after 11000 miles they dare still excellent sails.  Cheers. Joerg 

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem

Re: Battery Chargers

karkauai
 

Thank you John. Did you confirm that it doesn’t have an internal safety ground that defeats the Amel  isolated ground bonding system?
Will it be Lithium-ready if you go to Li in the future?

Thanks again.

Kent
Kristy
SM243


On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:24 AM, John Clark <john.biohead@...> wrote:


Hi Kent,
   I have the Magna 4124 inverter-charger.  105 amps DC charging capacity...though that is a bit much for my battery bank.  I got the remote control module which lets you program just about any charge profile you wish.    I imaging the battery charger only version will have the same charging capabilities.  I had no issues with the unit for first 8 months then the charging routine developed a mind of its own.  After some phone troubleshooting the tech rep figured out the charging control board had failed and had the unit replaced under warrantee.   No issues since.

I got the inverter-charger unit so it could act as a whole house supplier of 230v/50hz AC.  Our little 600w inverter is ok to run the ice maker and charge phones but not much else.  With the big inverter we don't have to start the genset for short duration high power loads like a shop vac, microwave, toaster....   It wires in at the Amel auto transfer switch and is invisible.  If we are not using it I turn it off at the remote control panel. 

The remote control is also handy. On the inverter model it can display the internal temperature of key electronic components...especially important if you install the unit in the engine room as I did.  (FYI no temperature issues when located in the forward port corner. On Annie this is the area where air is introduced to the engine room.)

I purchased the unit through Marysville Marine distributors.  

Regards,  John

SV Annie SM37
Brunswick GA




On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 10:39 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi All!  Great to see/meet so many of you at Annapolis this weekend.

I am looking for a new battery charger.  I have 8 group 31 Crown 130 AHr batteries for 520AHr bank at 24 V.DC.  They require equalizing at 31V for 1-4 hours periodically.  My Victron Skylla-i 80 amp charger has died and won’t be back from repair facility until after we leave.  It wasn’t ideal because of safety limits built in that don’t allow it to adequately desulfate my bank.
 I’m looking for a 80-100 A charger that will do what I need it to do and will allow equalization to be started/stopped from the remote panel.  Victron and MasterVolt don’t have that remote function.  Im considering a change to Lithium, but am not ready to pull the trigger yet...it’d be better if my new charger would also work on a Lithium system if/when I make the switch.
  I’ve found two that look like they will do what I want , NEWMAR and MAGNUM.  Does anyone have experience with these brands?  Any other recommendations?

thanks for you thoughts.
Kent & Iris
SM 243
Kristy

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Re: Companion way for removal

Ian Townsend
 

We used this veneer, ordered through Amazon. 

On Oct 14, 2019, at 2:30 AM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,

To apply laminate contact cement is used. Please remember to let both  surfaces dry before joining the laminate to the door,

When the two touch they cannot be separated, be careful.. I chose Formica brand laminate only because it looks closest to teak here in the USA. Just pick the one that you like, they are all basically the same. Just be sure to get the thicker variety of the laminate. Although the look is identical they often come in a very thin and a thicker style.

Fair Winds

Eric

sm

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Thomas Kleman
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 11:05 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companion way for removal

 

Eric- that looks awesome and has inspired us to put this project on the list. Can you describe the glue you used and did you consider any other faux veneers ?