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Re: Dessalator DUO 100 - Watermaker HP hose/pipe

Sv Garulfo
 

Hello

Thanks for your responses.
We managed to source an equivalent of the pipe locally.

The one sold and installed by dessalator is made by zec.

Full specs below

www.zecspa.com




Best
Soraya
Re: Cleaning Water Heater

Mohammad Shirloo
 

I second Tom’s opinion. When our element went out in 2016 (8 year old water heater), we decided to change for new. It was a 4 hour job, but hopefully don’t have to deal with this issue for another 8. There were signs of rust on other electrical components on the old tank.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas Peacock via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 1:04 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Cleaning Water Heater

 

Hi Kent,

 

I would not pursue things further. Just “Google” pictures of what the inside of most water heaters look like after a few years. As my kids say, “Don’t go there”.

 

That’s one reason why it is recommend not to drink or cook from the hot water tap. Lots of minerals, but obviously sterile. Most water heaters, marine or domestic, only last several years. 

 

All in all, if your tank is old, I would just consider replacing it. Or let it go kaput in the middle of nowhere.

 

Tom Peacock

SM #240 Aletes

Chesapeake Bay



On Jun 1, 2020, at 12:29 PM, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Gerhard,

I'm afraid I probably understated the condition of the zinc and heating element.  Here's a pic. I also got a better look inside the tank today, and it's pretty nasty. I have to clean it, but can't get my big paw through the hole. It's either a brush or power washer, I think.  Anybody else? 

Thanks again,

Kent

Kristy SM243

 

On Jun 1, 2020 6:50 AM, "Gerhard Mueller via groups.io" <carcode@...> wrote:

If the zinc is OK you should do nothing more as inspection. The thin coating (film) works as a protection and will soon come back when you remove it. Only rinse the tank. That is sufficient.

--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

 

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Re: Cleaning Water Heater

Thomas Peacock
 

Hi Kent,

I would not pursue things further. Just “Google” pictures of what the inside of most water heaters look like after a few years. As my kids say, “Don’t go there”.

That’s one reason why it is recommend not to drink or cook from the hot water tap. Lots of minerals, but obviously sterile. Most water heaters, marine or domestic, only last several years. 

All in all, if your tank is old, I would just consider replacing it. Or let it go kaput in the middle of nowhere.

Tom Peacock
SM #240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay

On Jun 1, 2020, at 12:29 PM, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Thanks Gerhard,
I'm afraid I probably understated the condition of the zinc and heating element.  Here's a pic. I also got a better look inside the tank today, and it's pretty nasty. I have to clean it, but can't get my big paw through the hole. It's either a brush or power washer, I think.  Anybody else? 
Thanks again,
Kent
Kristy SM243

On Jun 1, 2020 6:50 AM, "Gerhard Mueller via groups.io" <carcode@...> wrote:
If the zinc is OK you should do nothing more as inspection. The thin coating (film) works as a protection and will soon come back when you remove it. Only rinse the tank. That is sufficient.

--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

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Re: Cleaning Water Heater

karkauai
 

Thanks Gerhard,
I'm afraid I probably understated the condition of the zinc and heating element.  Here's a pic. I also got a better look inside the tank today, and it's pretty nasty. I have to clean it, but can't get my big paw through the hole. It's either a brush or power washer, I think.  Anybody else? 
Thanks again,
Kent
Kristy SM243

On Jun 1, 2020 6:50 AM, "Gerhard Mueller via groups.io" <carcode@...> wrote:
If the zinc is OK you should do nothing more as inspection. The thin coating (film) works as a protection and will soon come back when you remove it. Only rinse the tank. That is sufficient.

--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

Re: IALA buoy system warning

Ruslan Osmonov
 


On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 2:57 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

I thought red right return was only in America.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 01 June 2020 at 18:59 "Matt Salatino via groups.io" <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Not in Europe

~~~ ⛵️~~~ Matt

On Jun 1, 2020, at 3:30 AM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io < Itsfun1@...> wrote:

Red Right Return 
Cheers 

 

On May 30, 2020, at 10:58 AM, Matt Salatino via groups.io < helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Terrible!
He must have been very tired......

~~~ ⛵️~~~ Matt

On May 30, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica < oliver.henrichsen@...> wrote:

Hello,

Warning according to an incident yesterday in le Marin, Martinique. 

We observed an AMEL super maramu full sail up entering the bay. The captain left a green buoy at his starboard side and ended up shipwracked on the reef.

We do not know all details of this incident. 

But be warned, here is the IALA buoy sytem B used opposite to europe with IALA system A. 

All european scippers need to pay attention. 

IALA A is used by countries in Africa, most of Asia, Australia, Europe and India. IALA B is used by countries in North, Central and South America, Japan, Korea and the  Philippines .

By mixing up the different color code you my end up on the reef. 

Oliver from Vela Nautica Amel54 #39 
Martinique 


 


 

--

Re: IALA buoy system warning

Courtney Gorman
 

And the Caribbean


-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jun 1, 2020 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] IALA buoy system warning

I thought red right return was only in America.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 01 June 2020 at 18:59 "Matt Salatino via groups.io" <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Not in Europe

~~~ ⛵️~~~ Matt

On Jun 1, 2020, at 3:30 AM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io < Itsfun1@...> wrote:

Red Right Return 
Cheers 

 

On May 30, 2020, at 10:58 AM, Matt Salatino via groups.io < helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Terrible!
He must have been very tired......

~~~ ⛵️~~~ Matt

On May 30, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica < oliver.henrichsen@...> wrote:

Hello,

Warning according to an incident yesterday in le Marin, Martinique. 

We observed an AMEL super maramu full sail up entering the bay. The captain left a green buoy at his starboard side and ended up shipwracked on the reef.

We do not know all details of this incident. 

But be warned, here is the IALA buoy sytem B used opposite to europe with IALA system A. 

All european scippers need to pay attention. 

IALA A is used by countries in Africa, most of Asia, Australia, Europe and India. IALA B is used by countries in North, Central and South America, Japan, Korea and the  Philippines .

By mixing up the different color code you my end up on the reef. 

Oliver from Vela Nautica Amel54 #39 
Martinique 

 

 
Re: IALA buoy system warning

Tilo Peters
 

Not so simple as that.

Tilo
Zurich, CH

On 1Jun, 2020, at 20:57, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

I thought red right return was only in America.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 01 June 2020 at 18:59 "Matt Salatino via groups.io" <helmsmatt@...> wrote: 

Not in Europe 

~~~ ⛵️~~~ Matt

On Jun 1, 2020, at 3:30 AM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io < Itsfun1@...> wrote: 

Red Right Return 
Cheers  

 

On May 30, 2020, at 10:58 AM, Matt Salatino via groups.io < helmsmatt@...> wrote: 

Terrible!
He must have been very tired...... 

~~~ ⛵️~~~ Matt

On May 30, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica < oliver.henrichsen@...> wrote: 

Hello,

Warning according to an incident yesterday in le Marin, Martinique. 

We observed an AMEL super maramu full sail up entering the bay. The captain left a green buoy at his starboard side and ended up shipwracked on the reef.

We do not know all details of this incident. 

But be warned, here is the IALA buoy sytem B used opposite to europe with IALA system A. 

All european scippers need to pay attention. 

IALA A is used by countries in Africa, most of Asia, Australia, Europe and India. IALA B is used by countries in North, Central and South America, Japan, Korea and the  Philippines . 

By mixing up the different color code you my end up on the reef. 

Oliver from Vela Nautica Amel54 #39 
Martinique 


 


 
Re: IALA buoy system warning

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

I thought red right return was only in America.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 01 June 2020 at 18:59 "Matt Salatino via groups.io" <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Not in Europe

~~~ ⛵️~~~ Matt

On Jun 1, 2020, at 3:30 AM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io < Itsfun1@...> wrote:

Red Right Return 
Cheers 

 

On May 30, 2020, at 10:58 AM, Matt Salatino via groups.io < helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Terrible!
He must have been very tired......

~~~ ⛵️~~~ Matt

On May 30, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica < oliver.henrichsen@...> wrote:

Hello,

Warning according to an incident yesterday in le Marin, Martinique. 

We observed an AMEL super maramu full sail up entering the bay. The captain left a green buoy at his starboard side and ended up shipwracked on the reef.

We do not know all details of this incident. 

But be warned, here is the IALA buoy sytem B used opposite to europe with IALA system A. 

All european scippers need to pay attention. 

IALA A is used by countries in Africa, most of Asia, Australia, Europe and India. IALA B is used by countries in North, Central and South America, Japan, Korea and the  Philippines .

By mixing up the different color code you my end up on the reef. 

Oliver from Vela Nautica Amel54 #39 
Martinique 


 


 
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Rachel & Andy Smith <rachellouisesmith0971@...>
 

We would love to connect with others that have the same boat as us. 
Re: Cleaning Water Heater

karkauai
 

Uh oh, started cleaning the thermostat assembly and realized that the zinc is completely gone. I was looking at the thermocouple.

Seems like what looks like a simple project usually turns into a two day ordeal.

Kent
SM243
Kristy

On Jun 1, 2020 12:29 PM, karkauai@... wrote:
Thanks Gerhard,
I'm afraid I probably understated the condition of the zinc and heating element.  Here's a pic. I also got a better look inside the tank today, and it's pretty nasty. I have to clean it, but can't get my big paw through the hole. It's either a brush or power washer, I think.  Anybody else? 
Thanks again,
Kent
Kristy SM243

On Jun 1, 2020 6:50 AM, "Gerhard Mueller via groups.io" <carcode@...> wrote:
If the zinc is OK you should do nothing more as inspection. The thin coating (film) works as a protection and will soon come back when you remove it. Only rinse the tank. That is sufficient.

--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


Re: Keel rust and ballast straps on a Maramu

Jacob Champness
 

Sorry, I left out the key word:  Do you have any concerns about the condition of the top surface of your ballast?  The surface which is up against the bottom of the keel stub?
Re: Keel rust and ballast straps on a Maramu

Jacob Champness
 

Thanks Eric.  Do you have any concerns about the condition of the surface of your ballast?
Re: Keel rust and ballast straps on a Maramu

Jacob Champness
 

Thanks Miles!

How did you avoid dropping the nut out of the socket when you removed it with the long extensions?

Is that attachment point at the top something you added, or is it original?

Jacob
Re: Cleaning Water Heater

Gerhard Mueller
 

If the zinc is OK you should do nothing more as inspection. The thin coating (film) works as a protection and will soon come back when you remove it. Only rinse the tank. That is sufficient.

--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece
Cleaning Water Heater

karkauai
 

Hi all,
I just opened my water heater to check the zinc. It's been a few years since I've done this.  I found the zinc mostly intact, but covered with a greenish film. The water is a little discolored brown.
I'm writing to ask if anyone has a great way to clean the inside of the tank. Access is limited to a 3 1 /2" hole where the AC heating element, thermostat, and zinc are mounted. Access to the hole is limited by the scupper drain pipe.

I'm thinking that I'm going to have to remove the heater and use a pressure sprayer, but hoped someone would have an easier solution.

Thanks
Kent
Kristy SM 243
St Michaels, MD
Re: IALA buoy system warning

Matt Salatino
 

Not in Europe

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jun 1, 2020, at 3:30 AM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

Red Right Return 
Cheers 


On May 30, 2020, at 10:58 AM, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Terrible!
He must have been very tired......

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On May 30, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica <oliver.henrichsen@...> wrote:

Hello,

Warning according to an incident yesterday in le Marin, Martinique. 

We observed an AMEL super maramu full sail up entering the bay. The captain left a green buoy at his starboard side and ended up shipwracked on the reef.

We do not know all details of this incident. 

But be warned, here is the IALA buoy sytem B used opposite to europe with IALA system A. 

All european scippers need to pay attention. 

IALA A is used by countries in Africa, most of Asia, Australia, Europe and India. IALA B is used by countries in North, Central and South America, Japan, Korea and the Philippines.

By mixing up the different color code you my end up on the reef. 

Oliver from Vela Nautica Amel54 #39 
Martinique 
Re: IALA buoy system warning

Courtney Gorman
 

Red Right Return 
Cheers 


On May 30, 2020, at 10:58 AM, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

Terrible!
He must have been very tired......

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On May 30, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica <oliver.henrichsen@...> wrote:

Hello,

Warning according to an incident yesterday in le Marin, Martinique. 

We observed an AMEL super maramu full sail up entering the bay. The captain left a green buoy at his starboard side and ended up shipwracked on the reef.

We do not know all details of this incident. 

But be warned, here is the IALA buoy sytem B used opposite to europe with IALA system A. 

All european scippers need to pay attention. 

IALA A is used by countries in Africa, most of Asia, Australia, Europe and India. IALA B is used by countries in North, Central and South America, Japan, Korea and the Philippines.

By mixing up the different color code you my end up on the reef. 

Oliver from Vela Nautica Amel54 #39 
Martinique 
Re: Mango Headsail Question

svcharisma
 

Arlo,
Give me a few days and I'll see what I can get for you.

Alan, Mango #62
sv Charisma
Re: Two questions

Gary Wells
 

Marinepartseurope has several starter switches listed, I just wouldn't know which one is for your setup.  I did put in a new panel in Martinique (there's a Volvo store there) and I'll guess they could procure the switch as well.

As far as hatch foam is concerned, the replacement I used was actually trapezoidal a bit. I want to say 12mm on the glass side and 10mm where is contacts the ridge of the hatch. 

I too, found it in a roll at a chandlery, but it was about the 12th chandler I'd searched :)

I recently acquired a freezer gasket on Amazon (searched for 'old style refrigerator gasket) and I'm not sure you couldn't order the foam there as well.  We're on anchor at the moment so I don't have much signal and can't really research.

I know there's a company that supplies Goiot hatch parts; they've probably got the gasket material but at a premium.price.   (anyway, that's where I learned the measurements from:) ) 

Gary W
SM 209, Adagio
Cape Lookout, NC .. 
(hangin' on in 30kts). 
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