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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder drain

Juan GV <oceanis44@...>
 

In my Mango, the rudder is also this way.
Amel responded me very kindly that the helm is foreseen this way by them.
You can be calm, although it seems difficult to believe it.
I trust the good approach of the navy absolutely.

Best regards

Juan
Mango_trtola

----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoffrey Tyers" <geoffrey_tyers@...>
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 3:57 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder drain


As a new owner of Sharki #127 please confirm that the rudder is
designed to have a 1/2" drain hole in the base of the rudder. I have
just hauled my boat to paint the bottom and several gallons drained
out If no drain is designed what needs to be done to fill the
hollow rudder and prevent corrosion of the steel frame in the
rudder . As the boat is out of the water there is a window of
oppertunity to fix the problem if I have one.

When the boat was hauled for the prepurchase survey the same
condition existed and the Surveyor made no obervation as if it was a
normal condition, however that was not the position of the yard
where the paintjob is being done. They think I will have to rebuild
the rudder
Your comments are most welcome



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Rudder drain

Geoffrey Tyers <geoffrey_tyers@...>
 

As a new owner of Sharki #127 please confirm that the rudder is
designed to have a 1/2" drain hole in the base of the rudder. I have
just hauled my boat to paint the bottom and several gallons drained
out If no drain is designed what needs to be done to fill the
hollow rudder and prevent corrosion of the steel frame in the
rudder . As the boat is out of the water there is a window of
oppertunity to fix the problem if I have one.

When the boat was hauled for the prepurchase survey the same
condition existed and the Surveyor made no obervation as if it was a
normal condition, however that was not the position of the yard
where the paintjob is being done. They think I will have to rebuild
the rudder
Your comments are most welcome

Insurance Error

Ian Shepherd <g4ljf@...>
 

My Apologies to all and to Assurance Maritime. When I sent the following, I made a mistake with the maths. The insurance premium is not 1.27% but 0.783%, which is very competitive these days. It is an excellent deal. They have extended my Northerly latitude to include Prins Christianssund Sound in Greenland, without charge.

I did query the rather low southerly latitude limit, and they said that this was to exclude the passage down the east side of South Africa around Capes Agulas and Hope. However, they did say that an extension is possible. I hope so as New Zealand is very much on my list!

Previously Sent:

"Assurance Maritime in La Rochelle came up with world wide cover from 60N to 30S at 1.27% with a 0.4% deductible. This is a special deal for Amel owners only and is known as the "Prestige Amel" contract. Contact is Monsieur Alain de Lassee at assmardelassee@... "

Ian Shepherd SM #414 "Crusader"

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sails

Ian Shepherd <g4ljf@...>
 

Stephan,

I had a new genoa made by a friend of Joel Potter's in Fort Lauderdale. It has a foam luff and in general it was a well made sail and at a good price. The sail maker's name is Peter Grimm and his email is peter@... It cost $217 to DHL it to St Lucia.

Unfortunately due to a change in circumstances, I never got to sail with the new genoa, but I did ensure that it fitted OK. It is now a spare on my new SM which I take delivery of on July 15th.

Joel tells me that Peter is very familiar with Amel sails and that he has made a good number of them for US owners.

As a matter of interest, how old are your sails and how many miles have they done? I changed my genoa after 17,000 nms of hard sailing, much of which was in the tropics. I did have the leech tape repaired a couple of times, but eventually due to UV and wear, the rear panels became too weak and the lower cross tree fitting proved to be too much for the material when the genoa accidentally backed one day. I have noticed that the latest SM's now have a different end fitting which looks kinder to the genoa. I would like to see then covered in leather too.

Good luck with the new sails.

Ian Shepherd

SM 414 "Crusader"

Re: protection for deck "teak"

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Eric

I recently purchased a product from Island Girl called non skid
sealent. I tried it on the lazerette cover it seems to bring back the
color and helps the water bead nicely. It did not adversly effect the
non skid quality when wet. I will wait a few more weeks if it holds
up I will do the rest of the deck. They also make other products that
work really well on plastic and fiberglass.

Vito
--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite1212
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
what does one use to protect the faux teak from fading?
thnaks
eric

Sails

Stephan Regulinski
 

Has anyone bought new sails lately for a SM 2000? We need main and
genoa. Recommendations for Gib or Carribean?

Stephan (Delos)

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] autoprop recall

John Martin <jjmartin24@...>
 

Regarding your problems with autoprop,I had great conversation with Mr. Colby Ramsey @ 011441255427511 give him a call ,phone calls are much nicer then E mail.Use www.getpennytalk.com. 3 cents a minute to France,etc. regards, John, 'Moon Dog" "I,,,.----- Original Message -----
From: kimberlite1212
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:58 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] autoprop recall


Has anyone had a problem with autoprop and their recall of the amel
propellers ?
they don't respond to my e-mails.
eric



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protection for deck "teak"

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

what does one use to protect the faux teak from fading?
thnaks
eric

autoprop recall

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

Has anyone had a problem with autoprop and their recall of the amel
propellers ?
they don't respond to my e-mails.
eric

sharki salon table

scott
 

I recently took out the table in Amedee and replaced it with a
smaller table and added a washer/dyer (much like the sm). Does
anybody need a table?

Maramu cutlass bearing

Mike Gough <mahili_au@...>
 

Gooday, Sometime this year I need to replace a cutlass bearing. I
have not done this job before and would appreciate advice on how it
all comes appart etc.

Thanks,
Mike Gough

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Annualised running expenses

Ian Shepherd <g4ljf@...>
 

Hi Rob & Glen,

I kept very accurate accounts of my 2 year and 25,000 nm voyage in a new SM 2000. During that time I made some additions such as a wind generator, solar panels, deck wash, extra shelves and a hot water changeover system to get hot water from the generator. Most of the work I did myself. I also bought a new genoa and had to haul out twice to change the prop shaft seals and also to renew the antifouling. I lived on board the entire time and used marina's as little as possible.

Overall costs worked out at $2400 per month or $28,800 per year. This include some $1000 to run the company that owns the yacht. A quick breakdown is as follows:

Insurance 18%
Provisions 17%
Repairs 9.5%
Improvements 9.4%
Eating ashore 6.1%
Marina charges 5.8%
Diesel 3.8%
New Genoa 6.3%

I hope that this is of some help. By the way, I could not get insurance from Pantaenius for a circum navigation on my new Amel, but Assurance Maritime in La Rochelle came up with world wide cover from 60N to 30S at 1.27% with a 0.4% deductible. This is a special deal for Amel owners only and is known as the "Prestige Amel" contract. Contact is Monsieur Alain de Lassee at assmardelassee@...

Ian Shepherd SM #414 "Crusader"

deck fading

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

what does one use to prevent the "teak Decks" from fading?
thanks
eric kimberlite sm 376

Re: Annualised running expenses

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

Dear Claud,
where are you located?
eric Freedman sm 376 kimberlite huntington ny



--- In amelyachtowners@..., Claude Roessiger
<nearlynothing@y...> wrote:
I think that depending on how much sailing you do, it
will be reasonable to budget USD 25,000. to maintain
an SM in excellent condition. If you do a geat deal of
the work yourself, you can likely reduce this by USD
10,000. Our SM is 3 years old, and aside from routine
small items the work is done by a good yard; we do
have the added cold-climate consideration of
decommissioning for the winter lay-up. However, during
years in which we kept the boat in the water
year-around, the winter in the Caribbean, we found
that the extra wear and tear of the extra sea months
came to about the same as decommissioning. This annual
maintenance cost compares with about USD 15,000. which
we had over a 15-year period with a Maramu, a less
complex boat in many respects.
Claude Roessiger, Nanuq SM #308

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Annualised running expenses

Claude Roessiger <nearlynothing@...>
 

I think that depending on how much sailing you do, it
will be reasonable to budget USD 25,000. to maintain
an SM in excellent condition. If you do a geat deal of
the work yourself, you can likely reduce this by USD
10,000. Our SM is 3 years old, and aside from routine
small items the work is done by a good yard; we do
have the added cold-climate consideration of
decommissioning for the winter lay-up. However, during
years in which we kept the boat in the water
year-around, the winter in the Caribbean, we found
that the extra wear and tear of the extra sea months
came to about the same as decommissioning. This annual
maintenance cost compares with about USD 15,000. which
we had over a 15-year period with a Maramu, a less
complex boat in many respects.
Claude Roessiger, Nanuq SM #308

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Re: Annualised running expenses

robglenbrennan <no_reply@...>
 

Hello Amelites

As we get very close to taking the plunge and buying a Super Maramu,
we would appreciate your guidance on annual costs of running a 6-7
year old boat. Advice on major refit items (rigging and sails), and
general costs would be great!
We hope you can help
Rob and Glen Brennan, Australie

[Amel Yacht Owners] inner forestay

Anne and John Hollamby <hollamby@...>
 

Message text written by INTERNET:amelyachtowners@...
<
Olivier Beaute at Amel told me that the easy solution is to make a kevlar
strop to put round the mast just above the spreaders and then rig an inner
forestay down to the anchor winch with a suitable tensioning device. I
cannot remember where a storm jib should be sheeted to.
I fitted an inner forestay on my last boat,(a very leaky lousy Oyster 435)
with the head of the stay fixed to the mast about three feet down from the
top and with a special through deck fitting to secure the tensioner. The
stay was tied back by the mast and only rigged (with a bagged Storm jib)
for long passages in the South Pacific. It was never used in anger in the
five years we were there and i have not bothered with Bali Hai No 319.

Regards, John Hollamby

Re: NECO AUTOPILOTS - MARAMU 1981

Alejandro Paquin <simpatico_amel_maramu@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite1212
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Alejandro Paquin"
<simpatico_amel_maramu@y...> wrote:

Does anyone know somebody who could help me diagnose a
malfunction
in
my NECO Autopilot?
A.Paquin
what model neco do you have? where are you located?
eric
kimberlite
I'm located near La Guaira, Venezuela in Club Puerto Azul and my NECO
Autopilot , built in July 1980 was installed on my Maramu one year
later. I have a 12VDC system equipped with a reverse rotation motor
(Model G7R) a contro unit model 692CU and transmitting compass model
nm3.
The unit began failing by not making corrections to port and then
ceased to respond completely. The wiring and the units are impecable,
never in contact with water, and the electric motor works when
operated vía the contactors in the motor itself (in both directions).
The units have never been serviced and are in their original state.
No metal objects are near the compass.

I'd apreciate any help I can get with my problem.

Thanks for asking,

Alex

inner forestay

davidlambertsen <no_reply@...>
 

Has anyone installed a removable inner forestay for use with a storm
jib? What do you like or not like about it? How did you install it?

Any suggestions? (Joel Potter, any thoughts?)

Or, does anyone recommend not installing an inner forestay? Thanks.

David Lambertsen
s/v Have Fun!
Maramu 258

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] NECO AUTOPILOTS - MARAMU 1981

Luis Gonzalez Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@...>
 

I have a NECO 1980.If you need spares there is a contact in England who provided me with spares 3 years ago. You can try at telephone 00441243377868. If you are in the the spanish mediterranean coast I can give you an address.
Luis
Amel Mango Aloysius


Alejandro Paquin <simpatico_amel_maramu@...> wrote:

Does anyone know somebody who could help me diagnose a malfunction in
my NECO Autopilot?
A.Paquin


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