On Feb 28, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:

Me too. I had understood that the problem was only with older boats, but obviously not the case. The thought of removing and re-doing these is very off-putting given the toxicity of the material.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo
Sent: 28 February 2020 12:41
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Headliner Amel 54

 

Hi everyone;

 

Since we are on the subject of the headliner issues on the older Amels, I’d like to address some issues we are having on our A54, hoping for a good solution from someone who has tackled it.

 

On Kokomo, we have certain areas, mainly in the corners and inside the cabinets in the master, that the headliner sags or the corners are peeling off. We can get it to reattach by sliding our hand on it and pushing it back up, but this will repeat, within a day or two. The amount of area of sag is not significant and mainly out of sight, so it has not been a priority. However, we would like to address it, before it becomes worse.

 

Anyone else had this issue? All suggestions, would be appreciated.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

On Feb 28, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Karen Smith via Groups.Io <karenharmonie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Eric & Amelians,

We are a US based boat, and got our cancellation notice from Pantaenius US also. We went with Jackline, for the worldwide coverage. We also liked Novamar. We did a LOT of shopping and comparisons.

We will likely do a blog post about it, once we get a chance. It was a big hassle!

Karen Smith
s/v Harmonie SM #160

I contacted Pantaenius about next year’s insurance. They said they lost their primary company and are cancelling all policies here.

They will be acting as brokers to try to find me insurance. Has anyone else run into this problem and have you found a suitable insurance company?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

Hi everyone;

Since we are on the subject of the headliner issues on the older Amels, I’d like to address some issues we are having on our A54, hoping for a good solution from someone who has tackled it.

On Kokomo, we have certain areas, mainly in the corners and inside the cabinets in the master, that the headliner sags or the corners are peeling off. We can get it to reattach by sliding our hand on it and pushing it back up, but this will repeat, within a day or two. The amount of area of sag is not significant and mainly out of sight, so it has not been a priority. However, we would like to address it, before it becomes worse.

Anyone else had this issue? All suggestions, would be appreciated.

Happy Sailing;

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

Stuart Hemingway AA Dipl DMS RIBA

Symbiotic Relationships Ltd.,

 Grove Park Studios,

188-192 Sutton court Road,

Chiswick,

London,

W4 3HR

 

Telephone

From the UK  :    001 561 371 2321

From the US  :    561 371 2321

E . Studio@...

W. www.groveparkstudios.co.uk.

Just a thought. 

If you have a leak on the suction side it will allow air to enter the water pipes and this won't compress enough to reach the shut off pressure. 

Michael. Nebo sm251

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On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 10:39 pm, CW Bill Rouse

<brouse@...> wrote:

Stuart,

I gave you all of my ideas. Like I said before I don't think the accumulator tank pressure has anything to do with a continuous running pump. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 5:08 PM Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...> wrote:

Hello Joerg & Bill,

Who ever thought you’d need a bicycle pump on a boat , but you do!

We bought this fancy cycle pump in Bonaire ( the old fashion type would be better ) pumped up the accumulator and we have water!!

THANK YOU 

The pump is still running continuously though any ideas on that one?

Very best regards & thanks ..

Stuart

Stuart Hemingway AA Dipl DMS RIBA

Symbiotic Relationships Ltd.,

 Grove Park Studios,

188-192 Sutton court Road,

Chiswick,

London,

W4 3HR

 

Telephone

From the UK  :    001 561 371 2321

From the US  :    561 371 2321

E . Studio@...

W. www.groveparkstudios.co.uk.

On 25 Feb 2020, at 01:53, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

In my experience, there has to be nothing wrong to create this condition.   I’ve had this happen on my boat when I get back after many months away.  Or if the tank was run very low.   Pump up the tank and see whether it works.  Cheers. Joerg 

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Vigo, Spain

On Feb 28, 2020, at 8:12 AM, amelforme <jfpottercys@...> wrote:

Hello James. I did some digging around in old notes regarding Amel production during that time. The previous vinyl with the polyurethane foam was trade named Skai and still has a presence in the marine market according to a quick internet search. Perhaps they now make a marine vinyl with felt/cotton backing as the safety rules governing using polyurethane have changed over the years. If they have a suitable material, I’m sure the distributor could recommend an adhesive.

 

Sorry to say I could find no mention of the replacement material. I seem to recall someone at the shipyard in La Rochelle mentioning that it was Naugahyde, but that term gets used a lot generically and not always describing the exact brand of Naugahyde. I have used Naugahyde for other projects and it could be a good replacement if you can find a color-texture match. They were pretty strict when it comes to what adhesives to use and they only recommend their own branded adhesives.

 

During my digging, I found that quite possibly some boats from the 1995 production year may have used the new overhead as the exact break was loosely described as around 1996 production which means September 1995 forward. They still had some of the old headliner when the new arrived so….

 

Perhaps Olivier might know but beyond that, I’m out of luck.

 

Sorry not to be more helpful. Joel

       

       JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE 

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Alton via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 7:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Headliner fix

 

Joel,

 

   Would you by chance know of a source for the exact headliner material and adhesive that Amel has been using since 1996?  Thanks for the background on this issue.

 

James 

SV Sueno

Maramu #220

 

On Feb 27, 2020, at 11:21 AM, amelforme <jfpottercys@...> wrote:

 

It has come to my attention that I made a mistake when I represented that all the Amel  boats built after 2006 have the desired spun cotton/felt backing on the vinyl overhead instead of the polyurethane foam . Actually it is from model year 1996 forward. I regret the error and thank Duane and Peg on Wanderer for the heads up.

JOEL F. POTTER

CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

Office 954-462-5869 

On Feb 23, 2020, at 5:40 AM, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:

Our 1993 Super Maramu has the same fix except that the battens are white. It looks like it was tedious process to fit but the result is perfectly acceptable. I am not near the boat at the moment so I can't post a photo.
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Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky 
SM 110