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windlass sealing

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

I have not tried this, but a captain I know suggested I get a can of
expandable insulation foam from Home depot. He says it works great
and removes easely.

Vito

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] plug for windlass

Paul Camp <sv_red_red_wine@...>
 

Eric...Try a small pice of modeling clay..the kind
that does not harden...mold it around the chain and
over the pipe Paul
--- kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...> wrote:
Has anyone come up with a good way to plug the
windlass hawspipe
during a passage?
fair winds,
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] plug for windlass

Erick MEJEAN <maramu@...>
 

Hi Eric
If you problem is to prevent the sea water to come in I believe that the small piece of rubber attached to the windlass is more than enough as the amount of water that may come inside is rather little. My personal view is that any other system a bit more sophisticated will not last long as sooner or later you will forget to remove it one day. The good thing with the rubber plate, is that even though you forget to remove it, it will not be damaged, at most torn a bit.
Regards
Erick






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To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] plug for windlass
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:27:05 -0000

Has anyone come up with a good way to plug the windlass hawspipe
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plug for windlass

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

Has anyone come up with a good way to plug the windlass hawspipe
during a passage?
fair winds,
eric

SM Genoa for sale

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi I have the original genoa from my SM 2000 that I would like to
sell. The sail is 3 seasons old. It has made one round trip from Ft
Lauderdale to Annapolis and a trip from Ft lauderdale to NY.
Daysailed the rest of the time. The sail is in very good condition,
It has the typical laminate mold spots otherwise in great shape.

$1500 or best offer.

Email mail VCMS@...

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Factory photos

Paul and Helen Camp <sv_red_red_wine@yahoo.com> <sv_red_red_wine@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Krassopoulos Dimitris
<dkra@p...> wrote:
You can get photos even a video of my SM under construction from
my site
www.almalibre.gr <http://www.almalibre.gr> .


Best Regards

Dimitris Krassopoulos
SM Alma Libre

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Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 7:33 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Factory photos


Does anyone have photos of the sm under construction?
I have seen some under the yahoo section of photos but i am
interested in any and all additional photos of the boat under
construction.
thanks
eric
sm kimberlite


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I have some i took while at the factory... Let me know if you
want some Paul

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Assymetric Spinnaker

Erick MEJEAN <maramu@...>
 

If you are talking about the stock ballooner halyard, it has a proper location to be tied off. On the side near the hauling plates close to the shroud.
As for the additional one as it has not been planed the only way is to tight it on the starboard ramp guard next to the shroud.
Erick







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From: kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Assymetric Spinaker
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 00:15:00 -0000

Erick,
i ordered kimberlite with a balooner halyard from amel.
they also provided a few rings on the anchor roller to tie off the
balooner. where do you tie off the balooner halyard when not in use?
thanks
eric


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...>
wrote:
My SM was not fitted with the optional pulley as the more recent SM
are.In
those days Amel was a bit reluctant to support the use of an
assymetric. One
way was to use the stock ballooner halyard but this is not
recommended as
the halyard will wear very fast by rubbing on the stay.
I bought a special steel sheet billet from Amel with an additional
block
which is bolted on the mast head. An additional halyard is running
through
this block, dedicated to the asymmetric. This fitting keeps the
halyard off
the stay and prevents any wear out of the halyard by rubbing on the
stay. It
further makes gibbing very easy as the halyard is kept ahead of the
stay
In addition I'm using an ATN tacker ( http://www.atninc.com )this
is a very
convenient device which helps you to keep the assymetric above 140o
like a
ballooner and below 80 like a kind of genaker.
My recommendation is dont hesitate to get an assymetric as it will
change
drastically your performances specially in light breezes.
For your information I use it up to 25 knots of real wind and it
makes you
feel like skipping a 60" open. Taking it down single handed with
the sleeve
is of no challenge but requires a bit of preparation and planning
Erick







----Original Message Follows----
From: kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Assymetric Spinaker
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 05:35:12 -0000

erick,
did you use the block (pulley) that was supplied by amel?
thanks
eric
sm kimberlite


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...>
wrote:
> Conversely to what you may hear the assymetric is a must on the
SM. It is so
> convenient and efficient. It save you sometimes the hassle of
gearing the
> ballooner.
> Prior to anything you must make sure that a proper pulley has
been
fitted on
> the mast head. The existing one is not fit for the job.
> I'm using an Elvstrom Nucat triradial cutting. It is a very
stable
cutting.
> It can be used from 80o to 140o off the apparent wind.
> The fabric is made of nylon if i'm not mistaken. It has a weight
of 65g/m2.
> The total area is around 132 m2. This area can fluctuate
depending
on the
> cutting. I believe this is a rather reasonable size, easy to
single handel.
> Don't forget the spinaker sleeve which is of the essence and will
make the
> use of the assymetric very easy. I'm using an ATM sleeve.More
expensive than
> the average sleeves available on the market but so much easy and
reliable.
> With regards to the price I believe that depending on the fabric
and the
> quality it should remain around 25 Euro/m2 ex. VAT. As for the
sleeve it
> should be around 800 Euro ex VAT
> I posted a picture of Rigel II flying its two spinakers in the
photos
> section of this forum
> Erick
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
> Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
> To: amelyachtowners@...
> Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Assymetric Spinaker
> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:17:54 -0000
>
> I would appreciate hearing from Super Maramu owners who have had
an
> assymetric spinnaker made. Size, shape, overall area, material,
> cost......Thanks
> JP
>
>
>
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Assymetric Spinaker

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

Erick,
i ordered kimberlite with a balooner halyard from amel.
they also provided a few rings on the anchor roller to tie off the
balooner. where do you tie off the balooner halyard when not in use?
thanks
eric


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...>
wrote:
My SM was not fitted with the optional pulley as the more recent SM
are.In
those days Amel was a bit reluctant to support the use of an
assymetric. One
way was to use the stock ballooner halyard but this is not
recommended as
the halyard will wear very fast by rubbing on the stay.
I bought a special steel sheet billet from Amel with an additional
block
which is bolted on the mast head. An additional halyard is running
through
this block, dedicated to the asymmetric. This fitting keeps the
halyard off
the stay and prevents any wear out of the halyard by rubbing on the
stay. It
further makes gibbing very easy as the halyard is kept ahead of the
stay
In addition I'm using an ATN tacker ( http://www.atninc.com )this
is a very
convenient device which helps you to keep the assymetric above 140o
like a
ballooner and below 80 like a kind of genaker.
My recommendation is dont hesitate to get an assymetric as it will
change
drastically your performances specially in light breezes.
For your information I use it up to 25 knots of real wind and it
makes you
feel like skipping a 60" open. Taking it down single handed with
the sleeve
is of no challenge but requires a bit of preparation and planning
Erick







----Original Message Follows----
From: kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Assymetric Spinaker
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 05:35:12 -0000

erick,
did you use the block (pulley) that was supplied by amel?
thanks
eric
sm kimberlite


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...>
wrote:
> Conversely to what you may hear the assymetric is a must on the
SM. It is so
> convenient and efficient. It save you sometimes the hassle of
gearing the
> ballooner.
> Prior to anything you must make sure that a proper pulley has
been
fitted on
> the mast head. The existing one is not fit for the job.
> I'm using an Elvstrom Nucat triradial cutting. It is a very
stable
cutting.
> It can be used from 80o to 140o off the apparent wind.
> The fabric is made of nylon if i'm not mistaken. It has a weight
of 65g/m2.
> The total area is around 132 m2. This area can fluctuate
depending
on the
> cutting. I believe this is a rather reasonable size, easy to
single handel.
> Don't forget the spinaker sleeve which is of the essence and will
make the
> use of the assymetric very easy. I'm using an ATM sleeve.More
expensive than
> the average sleeves available on the market but so much easy and
reliable.
> With regards to the price I believe that depending on the fabric
and the
> quality it should remain around 25 Euro/m2 ex. VAT. As for the
sleeve it
> should be around 800 Euro ex VAT
> I posted a picture of Rigel II flying its two spinakers in the
photos
> section of this forum
> Erick
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
> Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
> To: amelyachtowners@...
> Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Assymetric Spinaker
> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:17:54 -0000
>
> I would appreciate hearing from Super Maramu owners who have had
an
> assymetric spinnaker made. Size, shape, overall area, material,
> cost......Thanks
> JP
>
>
>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Factory photos

Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
 

You can get photos even a video of my SM under construction from my site
www.almalibre.gr <http://www.almalibre.gr> .


Best Regards

Dimitris Krassopoulos
SM Alma Libre

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Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 7:33 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Factory photos


Does anyone have photos of the sm under construction?
I have seen some under the yahoo section of photos but i am
interested in any and all additional photos of the boat under
construction.
thanks
eric
sm kimberlite


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Assymetric Spinaker

Erick MEJEAN <maramu@...>
 

My SM was not fitted with the optional pulley as the more recent SM are.In those days Amel was a bit reluctant to support the use of an assymetric. One way was to use the stock ballooner halyard but this is not recommended as the halyard will wear very fast by rubbing on the stay.
I bought a special steel sheet billet from Amel with an additional block which is bolted on the mast head. An additional halyard is running through this block, dedicated to the asymmetric. This fitting keeps the halyard off the stay and prevents any wear out of the halyard by rubbing on the stay. It further makes gibbing very easy as the halyard is kept ahead of the stay
In addition I'm using an ATN tacker ( http://www.atninc.com )this is a very convenient device which helps you to keep the assymetric above 140o like a ballooner and below 80 like a kind of genaker.
My recommendation is dont hesitate to get an assymetric as it will change drastically your performances specially in light breezes.
For your information I use it up to 25 knots of real wind and it makes you feel like skipping a 60" open. Taking it down single handed with the sleeve is of no challenge but requires a bit of preparation and planning
Erick







----Original Message Follows----
From: kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Assymetric Spinaker
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 05:35:12 -0000

erick,
did you use the block (pulley) that was supplied by amel?
thanks
eric
sm kimberlite


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...>
wrote:
Conversely to what you may hear the assymetric is a must on the
SM. It is so
convenient and efficient. It save you sometimes the hassle of
gearing the
ballooner.
Prior to anything you must make sure that a proper pulley has been
fitted on
the mast head. The existing one is not fit for the job.
I'm using an Elvstrom Nucat triradial cutting. It is a very stable
cutting.
It can be used from 80o to 140o off the apparent wind.
The fabric is made of nylon if i'm not mistaken. It has a weight
of 65g/m2.
The total area is around 132 m2. This area can fluctuate depending
on the
cutting. I believe this is a rather reasonable size, easy to
single handel.
Don't forget the spinaker sleeve which is of the essence and will
make the
use of the assymetric very easy. I'm using an ATM sleeve.More
expensive than
the average sleeves available on the market but so much easy and
reliable.
With regards to the price I believe that depending on the fabric
and the
quality it should remain around 25 Euro/m2 ex. VAT. As for the
sleeve it
should be around 800 Euro ex VAT
I posted a picture of Rigel II flying its two spinakers in the
photos
section of this forum
Erick






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From: galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Assymetric Spinaker
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:17:54 -0000

I would appreciate hearing from Super Maramu owners who have had an
assymetric spinnaker made. Size, shape, overall area, material,
cost......Thanks
JP



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Re: Assymetric Spinaker

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

erick,
did you use the block (pulley) that was supplied by amel?
thanks
eric
sm kimberlite


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...>
wrote:
Conversely to what you may hear the assymetric is a must on the
SM. It is so
convenient and efficient. It save you sometimes the hassle of
gearing the
ballooner.
Prior to anything you must make sure that a proper pulley has been
fitted on
the mast head. The existing one is not fit for the job.
I'm using an Elvstrom Nucat triradial cutting. It is a very stable
cutting.
It can be used from 80o to 140o off the apparent wind.
The fabric is made of nylon if i'm not mistaken. It has a weight
of 65g/m2.
The total area is around 132 m2. This area can fluctuate depending
on the
cutting. I believe this is a rather reasonable size, easy to
single handel.
Don't forget the spinaker sleeve which is of the essence and will
make the
use of the assymetric very easy. I'm using an ATM sleeve.More
expensive than
the average sleeves available on the market but so much easy and
reliable.
With regards to the price I believe that depending on the fabric
and the
quality it should remain around 25 Euro/m2 ex. VAT. As for the
sleeve it
should be around 800 Euro ex VAT
I posted a picture of Rigel II flying its two spinakers in the
photos
section of this forum
Erick






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From: galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Assymetric Spinaker
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:17:54 -0000

I would appreciate hearing from Super Maramu owners who have had an
assymetric spinnaker made. Size, shape, overall area, material,
cost......Thanks
JP



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Factory photos

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

Does anyone have photos of the sm under construction?
I have seen some under the yahoo section of photos but i am
interested in any and all additional photos of the boat under
construction.
thanks
eric
sm kimberlite

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Assymetric Spinaker

Erick MEJEAN <maramu@...>
 

Conversely to what you may hear the assymetric is a must on the SM. It is so convenient and efficient. It save you sometimes the hassle of gearing the ballooner.
Prior to anything you must make sure that a proper pulley has been fitted on the mast head. The existing one is not fit for the job.
I'm using an Elvstrom Nucat triradial cutting. It is a very stable cutting. It can be used from 80o to 140o off the apparent wind.
The fabric is made of nylon if i'm not mistaken. It has a weight of 65g/m2.
The total area is around 132 m2. This area can fluctuate depending on the cutting. I believe this is a rather reasonable size, easy to single handel.
Don't forget the spinaker sleeve which is of the essence and will make the use of the assymetric very easy. I'm using an ATM sleeve.More expensive than the average sleeves available on the market but so much easy and reliable.
With regards to the price I believe that depending on the fabric and the quality it should remain around 25 Euro/m2 ex. VAT. As for the sleeve it should be around 800 Euro ex VAT
I posted a picture of Rigel II flying its two spinakers in the photos section of this forum
Erick






----Original Message Follows----
From: galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Assymetric Spinaker
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:17:54 -0000

I would appreciate hearing from Super Maramu owners who have had an
assymetric spinnaker made. Size, shape, overall area, material,
cost......Thanks
JP



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Assymetric Spinaker

galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
 

I would appreciate hearing from Super Maramu owners who have had an
assymetric spinnaker made. Size, shape, overall area, material,
cost......Thanks
JP

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leaking pressure vessel, Bali Hai SM 319

Ian Shepherd <g4ljf@...>
 

Hi Anne & John,

you are not the only one to have a leak! I had one after just 3 months from new but the warranty replacement has lasted over two years with just a little rust on the outside around the neck. The tank is actually contains a bladder (I think) to smooth the water supply and to allow for expansion when the tank heats up. Why it has to be made of mild steel, is a mystery, but I believe you need to have one in the circuit to allow for expansion.

I know it's a messy job, but you might want to remove the immersion heater from the bottom of your hot water tank and check if the magnesium sacrificial anode is still there. It is held by two copper brackets to the copper calorifer tubing. I have replaced mine twice in two years, though to be fair, I did have an installed accessory electrolysis problem that probably speeded up the anode depletion. If you have signs of red coloured hot water, then you anode has gone. The red is dissolved copper! Magnesium anodes are hard to find off the plumbers shelf in this throw away age, but Mon Selo at Amel has plenty.

I hope that the new tank lasts a long time.

Best Wishes

Ian Shepherd SM2 299 "Crusader"

Re: cutlass bearing removal

milnchris <no_reply@...>
 

Many thanks for this. Yes a little more brute force and out she
came ... new one installed with no problems.

Chris & Millie

--- In amelyachtowners@..., stargazer41amel
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
We just used a large pipe wrench and rotated while tapping with a
rubber mallet! No problem! Cutlass bearing was changed 6 years
earlier.

Cover new bearing in dish soap and wrap in tin foil and place in
freezer for a couple of days. Keep frozen until ready to install.
Unwrap and place on shaft. Being frozen made the ease of
installing
the new bearing a cake walk. We have installed many cutlass
bearings
this way! It makes the job easier.

Gene & Delores
s/v Stargazer
hull 132

Re: Visas, etc.

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

hi,
i don't know much about visas except i have not needed them in
france, spain, or italy.
I understand the boat has to be ""exported" to get get around the
VAT.
we sailed to Guernsey ,3 days from la rochelle, and had our papers
stamped. i believe we then had 16 months to leave the e/c.
i hope this is of some help.
eric sm kimberlite


--- In amelyachtowners@..., Bill <itacknjibe@y...> wrote:

I don't know if this is the proper forum, but please re-direct me
if you have other suggestions. We have been trying to get the "real
info" on what will be required of us if we plan to winter in an EU
country (we are US citizens, and the boat will be US flaged) after
taking delivery of our SM "Sogno di Mare" in May. We had thought of
Spain or Sardinia, but our trips to the consulates of France, Spain,
and Italy in San Francisco have produced conflicting reports of
requirements. What have other US citizens done about this? I have a
pretty good idea about the VAT situation, but it's the need to stay
in one location for more than 3 months that seems to be dificult for
the consulates to give definitive info on. Any help will be much
appreciated.

Bill and Cathy

Sogno di Mare



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Visas, etc.

itacknjibe
 

I don't know if this is the proper forum, but please re-direct me if you have other suggestions. We have been trying to get the "real info" on what will be required of us if we plan to winter in an EU country (we are US citizens, and the boat will be US flaged) after taking delivery of our SM "Sogno di Mare" in May. We had thought of Spain or Sardinia, but our trips to the consulates of France, Spain, and Italy in San Francisco have produced conflicting reports of requirements. What have other US citizens done about this? I have a pretty good idea about the VAT situation, but it's the need to stay in one location for more than 3 months that seems to be dificult for the consulates to give definitive info on. Any help will be much appreciated.

Bill and Cathy

Sogno di Mare



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cutlass bearing removal

stargazer41amel <no_reply@...>
 

We just used a large pipe wrench and rotated while tapping with a
rubber mallet! No problem! Cutlass bearing was changed 6 years
earlier.

Cover new bearing in dish soap and wrap in tin foil and place in
freezer for a couple of days. Keep frozen until ready to install.
Unwrap and place on shaft. Being frozen made the ease of installing
the new bearing a cake walk. We have installed many cutlass bearings
this way! It makes the job easier.

Gene & Delores
s/v Stargazer
hull 132

Sharki Cutlass bearing

milnchris <no_reply@...>
 

Hi everyone

We have recently bought Sharki Hull no 24 and are in the process of
making her ours!Have revamped the saloon, galley & head and are now
onto the underwater. We need to replace the cutlass bearing but can´t
seem to remove the old one, have got it turning but it doesn´t want
to budge. Would appreciate any advice. Thanks.

Regards
Chris & Millie