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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gearbox for outhaul stopped working

Udo <udo@...>
 

I just did exactly that repair last week. I chose to order a motor and
gear box assembly from Amel (approx. Euro 1,500). It would have been a
nice easy swap out, except the shaft would not come out of the old gear
box. We had to press it out in the shop. After that it was pretty
straight forward. The gears were well worn in the old gear box and I am
currently looking into rebuilding it to keep as a spare. I also had
another spare motor rebuilt and that was pretty easy. If possible I
would go with new parts from Amel. I also chose to go with a new sheave
on top of the shaft, since the old one looked pretty worn and the
outhaul line was slipping. That led me to a new outhaul line and now I
am thinking of getting a new mainsail because the old one looks bad
compared to all the other nice parts.



Udo

Cloud Seven

SM # 50



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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of dianexnielsen
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 8:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gearbox for outhaul stopped working



I have a 1994 SM and the worm drive is worn out in our outhaul gearbox.
The bearings also don't sound right. Has anyone replaced or rebuilt the
gearbox? Were you able to purchased parts or entire gearbox from the
manufacturer?

Thanks for any help.

Pat
Shenanigans
SM #123


Gearbox for outhaul stopped working

dianexnielsen <dianexnielsen@...>
 

I have a 1994 SM and the worm drive is worn out in our outhaul gearbox.
The bearings also don't sound right. Has anyone replaced or rebuilt the
gearbox? Were you able to purchased parts or entire gearbox from the
manufacturer?

Thanks for any help.

Pat
Shenanigans
SM #123


Re: marina suggestions in New Zealand?

edmund_steele
 

Judy,
Yes, on the Micron paint. DoodleBug was stored on the hard while we
returned to the USA. We were then painted and relaunched right after
we returned to continue cruising. Make sure you have a receipt
showing your paint type if you are heading for OZ.
Ed

-- In amelyachtowners@..., "Judy" <sailingjudy@...> wrote:

Ed,

Did DOODLEBUG have Micron 66 bottom paint at the time you were in
NZ?
If so, where there any detrimental effects from staying on the
river?

Judy
S/V BeBe
SM2 #387


Re: marina suggestions in New Zealand?

Judy Rouse
 

Ed,

Did DOODLEBUG have Micron 66 bottom paint at the time you were in NZ?
If so, where there any detrimental effects from staying on the river?

Judy
S/V BeBe
SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "edmund_steele"
<edmundsteele@...> wrote:

Mark,
DoodleBug SM#331 spent the winter of 2004/2005 at Riverside Drive
Marina in Whangerei. See: www.riversidedrivemarina.com

There were two other Super Maramus there at the same time that we
stayed. We had routine hull painting, engine and generator servicing
and the like performed at the yard. The price was reasonable; the
work was high quality and what astonished me – everything was
completed on time and as promised!
Ed


[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: marina suggestions in New Zealand?

Judy Rouse
 

Diane,

Thanks, but I had already found Nelson Marine. That website says that
Nelson Marine is located on the site of Nelson Marina, but there is
no information provided for Nelson Marina -- unless I am missing
something on that website. Another website said that it was a private
marina, but still gave no useful information. As yet, still no way of
contacting Nelson Marina.

Judy
S/V BeBe
SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@..., dianexnielsen@... wrote:

Judy,

I googled for awhile and found it.

_http://www.nelsonmarine.co.nz/_ (http://www.nelsonmarine.co.nz/)

Diane
S/V Shenanigans
SM#123
Annapolis, MD



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Re: marina suggestions in New Zealand?

edmund_steele
 

Mark,
DoodleBug SM#331 spent the winter of 2004/2005 at Riverside Drive
Marina in Whangerei. See: www.riversidedrivemarina.com

There were two other Super Maramus there at the same time that we
stayed. We had routine hull painting, engine and generator servicing
and the like performed at the yard. The price was reasonable; the
work was high quality and what astonished me – everything was
completed on time and as promised!
Ed


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "markmpitt" <mark_pitt@...>
wrote:

My wife and I are currently in Moorea and plan to bring "Sabbatical
III", our Super Maramu, to New Zealand in November. We will return
to
the States so that I can go back to work for 6 months. We will then
return to New Zealand in May 2008 to take Sabbatical III cruising
again. Can anyone suggest a good place to leave her in New Zealand
where there may be some past experience servicing Amels?

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" ASM #419


Re: marina suggestions in New Zealand?

Judy Rouse
 

Do you have any contact info for this marina? Cannot locate it using
Google.

Judy
S/V BeBe
SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "drew_gaffney"
<drew.gaffney@...> wrote:

We're in Nelson, on Tasman Bay. It's an excellent marina, a 5 min
walk to town, good, reasonably priced services.
Drew
Revelation ASM #390


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: marina suggestions in New Zealand?

dianexnielsen@...
 

Judy,

I googled for awhile and found it.

_http://www.nelsonmarine.co.nz/_ (http://www.nelsonmarine.co.nz/)

Diane
S/V Shenanigans
SM#123
Annapolis, MD



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] anchor washdown on 1998 SM #260

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Dave, The fitting for your pipe/hose connection is in the forward port locker in the top aft section. The Amel automatic system works just fine in ordinary conditions, but in real heavy muddy conditions, ie the Cheasapeake Bay, I took the conection apart and used a hose conection and a 10 foot hose with a nozzle and I use that to spray water directly on the chain. It really blasts the heavy mud off. The added benefit is you can add a 25 foot hose to the 10 ft. section and wash down the deck. Always keep the hose nozzle open when turning on the pump as the motor has no back pressure overload and will kick off the breaker in the engine room. Also as your boat is a 1998, I believe you may find that you have an extra thru hull fitting under the floor board outside of the forward head. This is for the wash down pump. I belive Amel changed that to the sea chest in later models. That is why you should always state your sm model number when asking a question as Amel cotinually evolves. If your pump is not working, make sure that the valve is opened.
John "Moon Dog" SM #248

From: "drdavegoodman" <drdavegoodman@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] anchor washdown on 1998 SM #260
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:35:00 -0000

Questions:
1: Is there a raw water filter/strainer for the washdown pump?
I have traced a hose coming off the seawater intake for the forward
head to a pump that I assume is the anchor washdown pump. Has anyone
installed a filter/strainer on this pump?
2. Is there a circuit breaker for the pump?
3. I've traced the outfow hose of the pump forward of the bowthruster
area, where the outflow hose enters part of the bulkhead just forward
of the blowthruster. I am unable to find a deck/hose fitting for a
washdown hose. Its location is probably obvious, but...
Thanks
Dave
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Re: marina suggestions in New Zealand?

drew_gaffney <drew.gaffney@...>
 

We're in Nelson, on Tasman Bay. It's an excellent marina, a 5 min
walk to town, good, reasonably priced services.
Drew
Revelation ASM #390

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "markmpitt" <mark_pitt@...>
wrote:

My wife and I are currently in Moorea and plan to bring "Sabbatical
III", our Super Maramu, to New Zealand in November. We will
return to
the States so that I can go back to work for 6 months. We will
then
return to New Zealand in May 2008 to take Sabbatical III cruising
again. Can anyone suggest a good place to leave her in New Zealand
where there may be some past experience servicing Amels?

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" ASM #419


marina suggestions in New Zealand?

Mark Pitt
 

My wife and I are currently in Moorea and plan to bring "Sabbatical
III", our Super Maramu, to New Zealand in November. We will return to
the States so that I can go back to work for 6 months. We will then
return to New Zealand in May 2008 to take Sabbatical III cruising
again. Can anyone suggest a good place to leave her in New Zealand
where there may be some past experience servicing Amels?

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" ASM #419


Re: Bow thruster for Maramu

woodsdeborah_56 <woodsdeborah_56@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "David Wallace"
<svairops@...> wrote:

We are considering having a bow thruster installed in our Maramu.
If any
Amel owners have had this done or know of one being done, I would
appreciate
any information regarding manufacturer, type (tunnel vs
retracting), and
position of installation.

Thanks in advance,

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104

_________________________________________________________________
http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=hmtextlinkjuly07
Hi Dave
We have recently purchased a Maramu and are currently doing some
alterations to our bowthruster would be happy to compare notes. Drop
me a line Johnfesel@... some of the difficu;lties we have
encountered might be helpful to know

John and Deb
Orion1 #78


Re: {Disarmed} [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel in the bay area

Anne & John Hollamby <annejohn@...>
 

Your message comes through as gibberish probably Mexican keyboards are different !!!!!

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To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:25 PM
Subject: {Disarmed} [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel in the bay area


Hello. &#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;I live in Mexico and will be visiting San Francisco this weekend. I&#13;&#10;wonder in anyone knows of a SM for sale in the area and/or charter.&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;Thanks,&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;Raul.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AMEL 54 new pneumatic gangway and Davits

Sailing Vessel Bozo Cinq <bozocinq@...>
 

Enrico,



I have the new pneumatic gangway on my AMEL 54 - At first I was blown away
by the cost of the option; however it has turned out to be one of the best
option investments I made. It works and I love the remote control. It does
have a couple of operating quirks, but once you understand them it is no big
deal. It is a terrific option.



I do not have the Davits.



Gary L. Wollenberg

Sailing Vessel "Bozo Cinq"

bozocinq@...





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Enrico
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] AMEL 54 new pneumatic gangway and Davits



I am deciding on options for the new 54 and I am seeking advice:

Do anyone have experience on the new pneumatic gangway used on the new
AMEL 54?

Any experience on the Simsons Davits?

Thank you


AMEL 54 new pneumatic gangway and Davits

Enrico <ebraglia@...>
 

I am deciding on options for the new 54 and I am seeking advice:

Do anyone have experience on the new pneumatic gangway used on the new
AMEL 54?

Any experience on the Simsons Davits?

Thank you


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Forward bilge water

eric freedman
 

Dave,

The Amel modification has nothing to do with a bow thruster leak. It is only
a device to prevent the loss of the bow thruster assembly,

If you have Oily water in the bilge, the front seal of the bow thruster is
leaking. That is the seal directly behind the propeller. This is not your
problem.



Clear water means that water is leaking around the bow thruster tube.

There are 2 sets of seals on the bow thruster. The first set is a metric lip
seal on top of which is a compressible foam seal; this is on the top of the
inside of the hull where the bow thruster assembly sits in the down
position. The lip seal keeps most of the water out and the compressed foam
seal finishes the job. The Lip seal is a standard metric lip seal. The foam
seal is available from Amel only. It is easy to change without removing the
thruster from boat.



There are two more foam seals one on top of the other where the bow
thruster tube meets the bow thruster assembly. They are simply attached with
silicone seal. However, the bow thruster has to be removed to replace these
as they are outside the hull. If you see the water coming in with the bow
thruster up and the boat is moving then the outside seals need replacement.
If the thruster leaks with the boat moving and the thruster down then the
inside, seals need replacing. I believe there is a diagram of this in the
owner’s book. When you order the seals order a few complete sets as the
postage costs more than the seals. if you gat a leak with the thruster up
and the boat moving , a temporary fix is to tighten the motor adjusting nut
so the motor is a little higher and compresses the outer seals a bit more. I
rebuild the bow thruster every year and change all of the seals and the oil
when I paint the bottom. I do not have any water in my bilge. As a ps ii
would also buy the Amel bow thruster tool. you can change the prop and all
the seals and oil without hauling the boat.

I hope this helps,

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of drdavegoodman
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:15 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Forward bilge water



Eric;
The water was not oily. The boat is a 1998 SM. Location is St.
Thomas, USVI. Since I have placed the securing pin in the
bowthruster, I've had no further water. However, I've not been out
sailing since I discovered the water. Next time I go sailing, I will
be using the bow thruster to exit and enter my dock area. After using
it, I will again secure it with the pin, and will be checking for
water in the forward bilge.
The previous owner performed the Amel recommended modification to
prevent the bowthruster from coming out of the boat, but to my
knowlege has never changed the bowthruster seals. The main engine has
about 900 hours, to give you an idea of how much its been used.
Dave

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Dave,

Is the water oily that is in the bilge?

What is the year of your boat?

Is it a super Maramu?

The owners' manual will not help you to change the bow thruster seals.

Maybe I can help you.

where are you located?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of drdavegoodman
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 2:05 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Forward bildge water



Hello all;
In the process of preparing to install an electric toilet in the
forward head, I checked the forward bildge next to the head where the
seawater intake thru hull is located. I found a small amount of water
(1-2 inches) in the bildge. I did some investigating on the owners
site and found the info below, Kimberit and others indicate the
likely source is the bowthruster needing seal replacement, and further
indicates this can be done in while in the water using "bowthruster
removal tools." The info I have on board about the bowthruster is
very sketchy. I have contacted Amel for a boat manual several days
ago but so far they have been unresponsive. Any further advice would
be appreciated.
Thanks
Dave

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, kimberlt <kimberlt@> wrote:

The editor dropped the decimal point . my thruster takes 3/10 of a
liter
of oil.
Eric


-----Original Message-----
From: kimberlt [mailto:kimberlt@]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 12:44 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Annual Haul Out

Gary,
Where are you located?

We rebuilt the bow thruster as we were getting water and oil
coming into
the bilge due to the thruster leaking at the rear seal.
The rebuild is very straight forward if the boat is out of the
water. If
you boat is in the water you can remove it by using the bow thruster
removal tools.
The removal of the thruster is covered in the manual.
Once you have the thruster out turn it upside down to drain the oil.
Having done this remove the prop. Behind this you will find a lip seal
similar to the one on the prop shaft except smaller. Just pry it out
grease a new one and install it. It can be pushed in very easily. It
appeared Amel uses some blue silicone to hold it in on the outside
surface.
On the thruster's vertical shaft, you will find two foam seals
that are
just removed by hand. Glue two new ones in place. Where the thruster
goes through the hull there is another lip seal held in by two screws.
Just remove this and install a new one. On top of this seal was
another
spongy disk seal, which we also glued down. Then just fill the
thruster
with point 3 (3 liters) of 90 weight oil.
I believe thrusters vary from boat to boat as Bel Ami, which was
next to
me, took ¾ liter of oil, and has a different mounting arrangement. My
owner's manual has a good drawing of the cross section of the bow
thruster.

Will you be in the virgins mid February?

Fair winds,
Eric
S/m 376 Kimberlite.

-----Original Message-----
From: amelliahona [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroup
<mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com> s.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 12:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Annual Haul Out

Hi Eric:
I saw your boat at Marina Cay in Road Town a couple of weeks ago.
Looked bristol. Could you please describe in detail the bow
thruster seal service process? What do you need to check on the
rudder screws? Do you just need to check that they are tight?
Thanks, Gary Silver Liahona Hull # 335 Sea Cow Bay, Tortola

-- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, kimberlt <kimberlt@o...> wrote:
Stephan,
We just had our bottom done. It was sanded and we had 2 coats of
pettit
ultima ablative paint applied. We used 5 gallons.
I also replaced the two lip seals for the bow thruster- one on the
thruster shaft and one in the thruster through hull opening and 3
spongy
inserts. You should also replace the wearing out bearing and the 3
seals
on the prop shaft and the sail drive oil. The zincs on the rudder
and
the zinc and bearings on the weed cutter if you have one. Also,
check
the screws in the rudder hinge.
Fair winds,
Eric
SM 376 kimberlite





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Amel in the bay area

aersolkid <aersolkid@...>
 

Hello. &#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;I live in Mexico and will be visiting San Francisco this weekend. I&#13;&#10;wonder in anyone knows of a SM for sale in the area and/or charter.&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;Thanks,&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10;Raul.


Re: anchor washdown on 1998 SM #260

Judy Rouse
 

Dave,

If you are referring to the Amel installed Anchor washdown pump, it
receives it's salt water from the manifold that is connected to the
sea chest. The sea chest has a strainer inside. The 24 volt breaker
for the pump is on a gray electrical breaker-box mounted on the
firewall in the engine room . The actual breaker is labeled "eau
mer." This same breaker-box has breakers for the Dessalator 24 volt
circuit, toilets, Bilge Pump and portside winch.

The outflow hose should be connected to a stainless tube that exits
through the deck and runs along the top of the anchor fairlead and
curves around the forestay. Amel fits a rubber "L" to the end of the
stainless tube which directs the water on to the chain/anchor.

Hope this helps.

Best,

Bill Rouse sailing with Capt Judy
s/v BeBe
moored Bonaire


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "drdavegoodman"
<drdavegoodman@...> wrote:

Questions:
1: Is there a raw water filter/strainer for the washdown pump?
I have traced a hose coming off the seawater intake for the forward
head to a pump that I assume is the anchor washdown pump. Has anyone
installed a filter/strainer on this pump?
2. Is there a circuit breaker for the pump?
3. I've traced the outfow hose of the pump forward of the bowthruster
area, where the outflow hose enters part of the bulkhead just forward
of the blowthruster. I am unable to find a deck/hose fitting for a
washdown hose. Its location is probably obvious, but...
Thanks
Dave


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] anchor washdown on 1998 SM #260

Peps47 <dji314@...>
 

Just run the pump and watch the water flowing. No hose, no fitting. It works.

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From: drdavegoodman <drdavegoodman@...>
Date: 2007/07/17 Tue AM 08:35:00 CDT
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] anchor washdown on 1998 SM #260


Questions:
1: Is there a raw water filter/strainer for the washdown pump?
I have traced a hose coming off the seawater intake for the forward
head to a pump that I assume is the anchor washdown pump. Has anyone
installed a filter/strainer on this pump?
2. Is there a circuit breaker for the pump?
3. I've traced the outfow hose of the pump forward of the bowthruster
area, where the outflow hose enters part of the bulkhead just forward
of the blowthruster. I am unable to find a deck/hose fitting for a
washdown hose. Its location is probably obvious, but...
Thanks
Dave


anchor washdown on 1998 SM #260

drdavegoodman
 

Questions:
1: Is there a raw water filter/strainer for the washdown pump?
I have traced a hose coming off the seawater intake for the forward
head to a pump that I assume is the anchor washdown pump. Has anyone
installed a filter/strainer on this pump?
2. Is there a circuit breaker for the pump?
3. I've traced the outfow hose of the pump forward of the bowthruster
area, where the outflow hose enters part of the bulkhead just forward
of the blowthruster. I am unable to find a deck/hose fitting for a
washdown hose. Its location is probably obvious, but...
Thanks
Dave