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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insulating our Amel for cool/cold weather sailing

Ian Shepherd <ocean53@...>
 

Hi Richard,

as you know I have taken my SM to Greenland, Labrador & Newfoundland on more
than one occasion. I can't say that at any time that I was really cold other
than once having to dive under the boat to cut a rope off the prop in a sea
temperature of 4 degrees Centigrade!

The boat's insulation is pretty good, and I suffered very little
condensation. Maybe just a little on the inside of the hull at the back of
the hanging lockers. I did have the luxury of an Eberspacher heater which I
did use some mornings in Greenland. It did dry the boat well. Cooking was
another good source of heat. I take it that you don't have the a/c units
with reverse cycle capability? Useful on shore power or when running the
genset. I never had any shore power up there though. Maybe you could carry a
couple of electric fan heaters for use when the genset is running?

You might want to take some thermal long john's along. I found them useful
when I had to leave the sea berth to visit the cockpit for a quick look
around or to trim sail. In fact I seem to rembember I slept in them whilst
under way.

My cockpit has the side panels to the folding bimini plus the vertical back
cover with the zipped door. This really helped keep the often gale force
winds at bay, but when the wind was from aft, it did get draughty due to the
poor seal between the back cover and the cockpit sides and the seats. You
might want to add some overlap in this area to get a better seal. Otherwise
the cockpit was quite snug. The disadvantage with this layout is that if you
need to get to the winches, you need to unzip the door as they are outside
the enclosed area altogther.

I don't know if you are planning any winter sailing in the UK, but I would
say that from April till the end of October, you will be pleasantly
surprised at our climate, though it might rain a bit! Out of the Gulf Stream
you might feel a bit cooler in Scandinavia, though the longer hours of
daylight may compensate a bit.

Experience on previous boats has found that the Tilley lamp can be a good
source of heat, as well as portable camping butune heaters. They will
produce some condensation though. I would get one of those battery driven
carbon monoxide monitors from one of your mega stores if you are going to
use such devices. I picked one up for about $30 in Newfoundland from
Canadian Tire. It did sound the alarm once when a side wind blew the genset
exhaust into the cabin.

Have a super trip Richard. There are many great spots to visit either side
of the English Channel, and when the sun shines in the Hebrides off Scotland
there are few places better.

Spare a thought as I swelter in the Red Sea this summer!

Regards

Ian Shepherd SM 414 'Crusader'

-------Original Message-------

From: closereach
Date: 01/05/06 04:16:01
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insulating our Amel for cool/cold weather
sailing

We're planning on cruising over to Ireland, the UK and Scandinavia
Next year. I have a couple of questions for those out cruising the
Higher latitudes.

1. What have other members done to insulate their boats to prevent or
Minimize condensation while living aboard?

2. Our Amel doesn't have any forced air or natural draft heating
System. How have you heated your boat 24x7, specifically when passage-
Making and living on the hook?

Thanks
Richard Tate
SM#5 "Spice"






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insulating our Amel for cool/cold weather sailing

Graham Boyd
 

I keep my SM on the West coast of Scotland. This is the first boat
that we have had that has not had an eberspacher heater fitted. We
just run the generator and the fan heaters whenever we want some heat
and to dry out the cabin. This works much better than expected mainly
due to the fact that the onan is very quiet and am quite glad that I
did not go to the expense of fitting a blown air system. If you do
down that route get Amel to send you the installation photos. What is
of greater importance is getting the rear screen to the spray hood
fitted to make a cosy wheel house! This has become known as
the "conservatory" on board and gets considerable use. Have a great
trip the SM is a great boat for the western Scottish waters,

Graham Boyd
SM140 "Sula"

--- In amelyachtowners@..., eric <kimberlite@o...> wrote:

Richard,
I am planning on installing an espar heater. I have been in
communication
with the factory and have some pictures, and information about the
install..
Where are you located?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of closereach
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:15 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insulating our Amel for cool/cold
weather
sailing

We're planning on cruising over to Ireland, the UK and Scandinavia
next year. I have a couple of questions for those out cruising the
higher latitudes.

1. What have other members done to insulate their boats to prevent
or
minimize condensation while living aboard?

2. Our Amel doesn't have any forced air or natural draft heating
system. How have you heated your boat 24x7, specifically when
passage-
making and living on the hook?

Thanks
Richard Tate
SM#5 "Spice"






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Re: Insulating our Amel for cool/cold weather sailing

Graham Boyd
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "closereach" <closereach@y...>
wrote:

We're planning on cruising over to Ireland, the UK and Scandinavia
next year. I have a couple of questions for those out cruising the
higher latitudes.

1. What have other members done to insulate their boats to prevent or
minimize condensation while living aboard?

2. Our Amel doesn't have any forced air or natural draft heating
system. How have you heated your boat 24x7, specifically when passage-
making and living on the hook?

Thanks
Richard Tate
SM#5 "Spice"
I keep my SM on the West coast of Scotland. This is the first boat that
we have had that has not had an eberspacher heater fitted. We just run
the generator and the fan heaters whenever we want some heat and to dry
out the cabin. This works much better than expected mainly due to the
fact that the onan is very quiet and am quite glad that I did not go to
the expense of fitting a blown air system. If you do down that route
get Amel to send you the installation photos. What is of greater
importance is getting the rear screen to the spray hood fitted to make
a cosy wheel house! This has become known as the "conservatory" on
board and gets considerable use. Have a great trip the SM is a great
boat for the western Scottish waters,

Graham Boyd
SM140 "Sula"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] onan genset

Ian Shepherd <ocean53@...>
 

Hello Patrick,

I had a problem with my Onan not starting, but I don't think it was the same
problem as yours, but I pass this along in case it happens later.

Inside the top of the control box to the left of the engine, there is a 10
Ohm high current resistor which is a surge limiter in the fuel shut off
solenoid circuit. The resistor was not properly mounted and vibration caused
the wires to snap off the resistor where they enter the ceramic body. I did
manage to chisel the ceramic away and resolder the wires, but it was only a
temporary repair.

I would suggest that you might want to take a spare resistor with you on
your long voyage and that you strap the existing resistor and wires with
cable clips so that they are less likely to break with the vibration that
occurs on start up and shutdown. You will find a similar resistor in any
decent electrical component shop.

Regards to Catherine et Bon Voyage Mon Ami

Ian Shepherd 'Crusader'

-------Original Message-------

From: caramel02uk
Date: 12/19/05 14:26:28
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] onan genset

Can anyone assist please, after only 450 hours use, the Gen set is
Becoming difficult to start. On pressing the start button there are
Lots of clicks from the various relays and the fuel pump but nothing
Happens, no cranking,nada. Repeat the process and it will start up
After say four or five presses of the button. Have checked all battery
Leads starter connections am now stumped and wonder if a similar
Problem has been encountered. Thanks in advance Patrick CARAMELLE.






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Water Maker Info

Ian Shepherd <ocean53@...>
 

Hi Gary,

My apologies for not replying sooner, but I have been without the Internet
for a while here in Cyprus. I have also had to upgrade to Windows Xtra Pain
as there is no driver support for good old Windows2000 by Sony for their new
range of handycams!

It's interesting that your end caps are different to mine which are only 2.5
years old. What age is your water maker? I did notice on the Amel 54 that
the membrane housings and end caps looked much more solid and that they were
machined, but it was a totally different model to my 160 l/h unit. Maybe I
am not the only one to have an end cap split, and that is why they have gone
to a more robust and expensive design? I am wondering why you had to change
the caps as well as the membranes?

I hope to have a chat with Rod at the London Boat Show next week, and I will
ask him about the design history.

I have spoken with with Rosyne on the phone and I know what you mean. I have
also met M.Wagner, the boss, who has been most helpful in the past. If you
can get hold of him, he speaks good enough English to discuss the product. I
met him at the Cannes Boat Show.

I too have found Amel after sales to not only be very efficient, but very
fair too, sometimes not charging at all for a replacement part.

Now that I am back on my feet again, I will try and do some further tests on
the salinity probe. I will let you know the results. The plan is to put a
bung in the original probe socket then place the probe in a cup of seawater
with the unit running, and see if the output diverts overboard.

Best Wishes

Ian Shepherd SM2000 'Crusader'


Re: onan genset

caramel02uk <pjn.mccallin@...>
 

dear ken
thanks for the advice, I do not have the type of solonoid you have
described but there is one fitted just below the starter on the
negative side, so I guess this is the problem. I now have an
occasional problem in stopping the yanmar 100 hp; not alwase but
occasionaly when I press the stop button nothing happens. Just above
the fuel pump there is a solinoid/relay again on the neg side , do
you think it is the same problem - sticking. The yacht was laid up
for almost 17 months although the batteries were perminantly hooked
up to shore power the engine and genset were mothballed.Thanks
Patrick
--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Ken & Nancy Burnap"
<notrevie2000@y...> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "caramel02uk"
<pjn.mccallin@j...> wrote:

can anyone assist please, after only 450 hours use, the gen set
is
becoming difficult to start. On pressing the start button there
are
lots of clicks from the various relays and the fuel pump but
nothing
happens, no cranking,nada. Repeat the process and it will start
up
after say four or five presses of the button. Have checked all
battery
leads starter connections am now stumped and wonder if a similar
problem has been encountered. Thanks in advance Patrick
CARAMELLE.
Amel has taken the prevention on galvanic action one step beyond
any
other boat mfg. They not only have an interrupt solenoid in the
positive circuit for the motor but they also have one on the
negative circuit. When the start button is pushed both of these
solenoids must engage at the same time for the motor to start.
The
cause of your problem is almost assuredly because the negative
solenoid is sticking. The good news is, it's easy to get to and
short stop around. It is in plain sight on the port side of the
engine, a cylinder shape about 1.25" dia. X 6" long, with a rubber
push button on either the top or the bottom depending on how it
was
mounted. It has been mounted in various positions in an attempt
to
lessen this probability of it's sticking. The next time this
happens, have one person hold down the rubber push button on the
solenoid while a second person pushes the start button. That's
it.
You obviously could short across the terminals as a permanent fix
but I would not recommend this, I think the second interrupt is a
good idea when it works. I found that the sticking problem
occurred
when the engine was fairly hot after an extended run and not given
enough idle time to cool down before shutting it off..

Hope this helps.

Ken Burnap
s/v Notre Vie


Re: SHARKI

sy_windfall <sy_windfall@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "bbdpaulin" <bbdpaulin@y...>
wrote:

Bonjour!

Je vais peut-être acheter un SHARKI (LIMBO II) qui est ancré au Yacht
Club de Tahiti (Polynésie Française).
Je connais la réputation de la construction AMEL et du confort.
Mais il y a aussi une mauvaise idée quand aux performances en
navigation, surtout au près...
Les propriétaires de SHARKI peuvent-ils m'en dire plus sur les
capacités à remonter au vent de ce bateau?

Par avance, merci de vos réponses.
I'll give a rough translation for those who don't speak French...
Hi,

I am considering to buy a Sharki (Limbo II), achored at Yacht club de
Tahit. I know about the reputation of the construction and the comfort
of AMEL, but also a lesser reputation on performance and navigation
(sic). Could owners of a Sharki please tell me more about the things
to refurbish after the purchase of this boat.
Thanks in advance...

Eddy May (just lurking and Dutch citizen ;-)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insulating our Amel for cool/cold weather sailing

eric freedman
 

Richard,
I am planning on installing an espar heater. I have been in communication
with the factory and have some pictures, and information about the install..
Where are you located?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of closereach
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 11:15 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insulating our Amel for cool/cold weather
sailing

We're planning on cruising over to Ireland, the UK and Scandinavia
next year. I have a couple of questions for those out cruising the
higher latitudes.

1. What have other members done to insulate their boats to prevent or
minimize condensation while living aboard?

2. Our Amel doesn't have any forced air or natural draft heating
system. How have you heated your boat 24x7, specifically when passage-
making and living on the hook?

Thanks
Richard Tate
SM#5 "Spice"






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Insulating our Amel for cool/cold weather sailing

Zanareva
 

We're planning on cruising over to Ireland, the UK and Scandinavia
next year. I have a couple of questions for those out cruising the
higher latitudes.

1. What have other members done to insulate their boats to prevent or
minimize condensation while living aboard?

2. Our Amel doesn't have any forced air or natural draft heating
system. How have you heated your boat 24x7, specifically when passage-
making and living on the hook?

Thanks
Richard Tate
SM#5 "Spice"


SHARKI

bbdpaulin <bbdpaulin@...>
 

Bonjour!

Je vais peut-être acheter un SHARKI (LIMBO II) qui est ancré au Yacht
Club de Tahiti (Polynésie Française).
Je connais la réputation de la construction AMEL et du confort.
Mais il y a aussi une mauvaise idée quand aux performances en
navigation, surtout au près...
Les propriétaires de SHARKI peuvent-ils m'en dire plus sur les
capacités à remonter au vent de ce bateau?

Par avance, merci de vos réponses.


Need a crew

Ag Av8ter
 

Hello all,
My wife and are buying (should close on 1/11/06) a Super Maramu 2000.
I need two people to join us for a trip from South Florida to Tortola,
BVI. We intend to depart Florida Sat. 1/14/06 and expect an eight day
trip. Crew to report aboard AM on the 13th. Crew must have passports
and return tickets (own expense) prior to departure. If you would like
to stay aboard in the BVI (or possibly USVI) for a few days to
dive/snorkle or just have fun you would be welcome to do so. I hate to
be "rude", but no one that has trouble with booze, or any drug(s) is
invited.

If you have an interest please contact me at agav8ter@... ASAP,
inlude a telephone number where I can contact you.

Thanks, Tony


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel supermaramu wanted

PFM53 <pfm53@...>
 

Hello Maria and Ove

Happy New year to you as well. We raised the price because we have several
brokers who are wanting to sell her, and we needed to cover their commission.
If we sell her ourselves, we will of course reduce the price.

We have not done anything about the rigging, but have had no problems. All
other items (and more) have been repaired.

The moistrue content is not a problem. All boats have some, but the surveyer
told us there was no concern. He just reported the actual readings he found.

The boat has never been chartered. We bought it in Hyeres from what I think
was the original owner. They used it strictly for personal use (and not much
use at that).

Overall, she is in very good shape, and there are numerous items included I
forgot to put on the web site. For example, she has a brand new sea anchor,
numerous spare parts for the engine and bow thruster, a stabilizing drove for
use at anchor, etc.

Regards
Jerry and Cat

------ Original Message ------
Received: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 06:54:27 AM PST
From: "ohturoey" <ohturoey@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel supermaramu wanted

Hi Cat & Jerry

Happy New Year

I have seen your yacht listed for quite some time, and I did notice
that the price have changed from 350 in the beginning to the present
375,I have been visiting your website several times during last
year, quite impressive and many good pictures, still have a few
questions : is all the recomended repairs from the survey in 2003
done? and have there been a complete mast and rigging survey as
stated in 2004? is the noted moisture readings in the survey a
reason to worry? and have there been done anything regarding this?
have the yacht ever been charted/ former history of use? and use
after 2003 when the survey were completed, location of the yacht.
time aspect of sale*?

Best Regards
Maria & Ove
--- In amelyachtowners@..., PFM53 <pfm53@u...> wrote:

Hi Maria and Ove

We have a 1995 Super Maramu (#133) for sale that is in excellent
shape with
many upgrades. You can view her at our web site
www.ecoconutinc.com.

Jerry and Cat

------ Original Message ------
Received: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:51:48 PM PST
From: "ohturoey" <ohturoey@y...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel supermaramu wanted

hi and happy new year to everybody
we are a young couple that are looking for a supermaramu, and we
are
thinking that there might be many that is not listed through the
internet and brookers so we are also trying this way, and there
might
be somthing to save for bouth parts with a private sale compare
to
what a brooker charge today.

Best regards
Maria & Ove







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel supermaramu wanted

ohturoey <ohturoey@...>
 

Hi Cat & Jerry

Happy New Year

I have seen your yacht listed for quite some time, and I did notice
that the price have changed from 350 in the beginning to the present
375,I have been visiting your website several times during last
year, quite impressive and many good pictures, still have a few
questions : is all the recomended repairs from the survey in 2003
done? and have there been a complete mast and rigging survey as
stated in 2004? is the noted moisture readings in the survey a
reason to worry? and have there been done anything regarding this?
have the yacht ever been charted/ former history of use? and use
after 2003 when the survey were completed, location of the yacht.
time aspect of sale*?

Best Regards
Maria & Ove
--- In amelyachtowners@..., PFM53 <pfm53@u...> wrote:

Hi Maria and Ove

We have a 1995 Super Maramu (#133) for sale that is in excellent
shape with
many upgrades. You can view her at our web site
www.ecoconutinc.com.

Jerry and Cat

------ Original Message ------
Received: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:51:48 PM PST
From: "ohturoey" <ohturoey@y...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel supermaramu wanted

hi and happy new year to everybody
we are a young couple that are looking for a supermaramu, and we
are
thinking that there might be many that is not listed through the
internet and brookers so we are also trying this way, and there
might
be somthing to save for bouth parts with a private sale compare
to
what a brooker charge today.

Best regards
Maria & Ove




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel supermaramu wanted

PFM53 <pfm53@...>
 

Hi Maria and Ove

We have a 1995 Super Maramu (#133) for sale that is in excellent shape with
many upgrades. You can view her at our web site www.ecoconutinc.com.

Jerry and Cat

------ Original Message ------
Received: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:51:48 PM PST
From: "ohturoey" <ohturoey@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel supermaramu wanted

hi and happy new year to everybody
we are a young couple that are looking for a supermaramu, and we are
thinking that there might be many that is not listed through the
internet and brookers so we are also trying this way, and there might
be somthing to save for bouth parts with a private sale compare to
what a brooker charge today.

Best regards
Maria & Ove




Amel supermaramu wanted

ohturoey <ohturoey@...>
 

hi and happy new year to everybody
we are a young couple that are looking for a supermaramu, and we are
thinking that there might be many that is not listed through the
internet and brookers so we are also trying this way, and there might
be somthing to save for bouth parts with a private sale compare to
what a brooker charge today.

Best regards
Maria & Ove


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Perkins Prima M80T manuals

Zanareva
 

Tom,
Thank you for the generous offer, but fortunately another early SM
owner contacted me and will be sending a spare set of manuals for
the Perkins diesel.
I'm located in Satellite Beach, Florida (an hour SE of Orlando).
Where are you?
Seasons Greetings!
Richard Tate
SM#5 "Spice"


Dear Richard,

I own SM#3 "Mallamok" and I also have the Perkins manual plus the
repair
manual of this engine.

If you are still interested, I could copy both and send them to
you.

I am an airline captain and have some options where to drop the
stuff to
save some postage. So where are you living?

So if you are still interested, gimmie a note and I'll start
working on
the copy-machine.

So long, merry Christmas and fair winds.

Tom Neuland
SM#3 "Mallamok"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Perkins Prima M80T manuals

Thomas.Neuland@t-online.de <thomas.neuland@...>
 

Dear Richard,

I own SM#3 "Mallamok" and I also have the Perkins manual plus the repair
manual of this engine.

If you are still interested, I could copy both and send them to you.

I am an airline captain and have some options where to drop the stuff to
save some postage. So where are you living?

So if you are still interested, gimmie a note and I'll start working on
the copy-machine.

So long, merry Christmas and fair winds.

Tom Neuland
SM#3 "Mallamok"

-----Original Message-----
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:53:33 +0100
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Perkins Prima M80T manuals
From: "closereach"
To: amelyachtowners@...

Hi everyone,

Does anyone have the service manual and parts manual for the Perkins
Prima M80T BB30143? Can I get a photocopy of these, at my cost? This
is the 80 hp four cylinder turbo that was factory installed in my 1989
Super Maramu. My only alternative is to order from the Perkins
distributor at the cost of over $110.

Thanks
Richard Tate
SM #5 "Spice"







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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Component Pictures

eric freedman
 

Gary,
Thanks for the photos.
Do you have any other photos you wish to send back channel?
Do you have the flow chart of the watermaker (flow chart).
I am considering installing a water monitor but I need all the details
before I go to the boat in 2 weeks.
Where are you located?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 10:54 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Component Pictures

24 Dec 2005
Hi to all: I just posted two pictures related to the Dessaltor Water Maker.
See the photos
folder titled Water Maker.

I will post the o-ring specifications etc later.

Regards, Gary Silver







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Water Maker Component Pictures

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

24 Dec 2005
Hi to all: I just posted two pictures related to the Dessaltor Water Maker. See the photos
folder titled Water Maker.

I will post the o-ring specifications etc later.

Regards, Gary Silver


Bilge Pump Run On Alarm

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

The exhaust water temp probe is indeed a good idea. The same company that makes that
alarm makes a dual channel alarm that has a bilge water level alarm and more
importantly in my book a bilge pump run-on alarm. Once I had the seal on
the water maker low pressure feed pump rupture and it was pumping sea
water into the engine compartment. The amel supplied bilge alarm finally
sounded but there was no telling how long the bilge pump had been running
trying to keep up with the ingress of sea water and sea water was sloshing back
and forth in the engine compartment by then.

I have installed this dual channel alarm system and it gives me redundancy
for the bilge water level alarm and best of all it gives me early warning any time the
bilge pump runs for more than the preselected time (in my case I have it
set at two minutes).

Gary Silver AmelSM2000 Hull "# 335 s/v Liahona