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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] trip around the horn

Randy Kilmon <drifter01us@...>
 

Ralph Nehrig and Ann Harsh have made the trip around
Cape Horn aboard their SM "Harmonie". Their e-mail
address is:
syharmonie@...

--- kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...> wrote:
Does anyone know of an amel that has made the trip
around the horn?
secondly what do you do on a s/m when the wind get
above 45 knots.
thnaks
eric
sm 376 kimberlite


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[Amel Yacht Owners] winterizing watermaker

Anne and John Hollamby <hollamby@...>
 

Message text written by INTERNET:amelyachtowners@...
<
I had this problem when I was shipping my Oyster back from NZ and got some
very helpful info from Sea Recovery.They recommend changing the prefilters
and then flushing the system with a cleansing/sterilising solution in
product or non chlorinated water. The system should then be run on a
solution of their system and membrane element storage chemical with a
solution of food grade gl;ycerine (polyproylene glycol which I bought at a
local pharmacy).
My info may well be out of date and you might want to put the question to
them at info@... without telling them that your system is not
one of theirs!
Best wishes, Anne
and John Bali Hai SM319

trip around the horn

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

Does anyone know of an amel that has made the trip around the horn?
secondly what do you do on a s/m when the wind get above 45 knots.
thnaks
eric
sm 376 kimberlite

Re: Propane Conversion

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

I found a great marine plumbing supply in the marina in la Rochelle.
He has a kit of 3 adapters that will convert your system to almost
any gas supply. i used this while i was in europe. for the trans
atlantic trip i decided to convert to propane.i found it very easy
to convert from butane to propane.
i removed the wood butane rack, tanks , and regulator also the "T"
connector at the solenoid. i added a adapter that i purchased in
home depot from "i think 1/4 inch" pipe thread at the solenoid to
the hose that connects to a trident wall mount regulator. i mounted
the regulator to the underside of the top of the gas locker. from
there i used a single hose to either of my 2 tanks. a 20 and 10
pound aluminum tank. I do not like the idea of having both tanks
hooked up at once . when you run out of gas you are 100 % out if
both are hooked together. i prefer to switch to a new tank manually.
we crossed the atlantic with 5 crew including a professional chef-
who cooked too much- on less than 10 lbs of propane.
Fair winds,
eric




--- In amelyachtowners@..., "edmund_steele"
<edmundsteele@e...> wrote:
Hi Walter,
We ("DoodleBug SM331") switched our system from Butane to Propane
3
months ago. The plywood rack that holds the butane bottles
unscrews
into its component parts. The base is lightly glued into place and
pries out easily. I put in two aluminium tanks of 20lbs and 10lbs.
capacity plus two regulators - all purchased from WestMarine. I
cut a
piece of 3/4 inch plywood to match the base of the locker, with
two
cut-outs to hold the base of the tanks.
The hard part was getting a fitting to hook the regulators into
the
electric shut-off valve. I solved this by purchasing a connector
plus
a couple of hose clamps from a propane supply store. This involved
me
cutting off the connector from the butane hose and replacing it
with
the purchased connector.
The burners on the stove require no adjustment but the oven burner
needs to have the air tube adjusted. We have the Eno brand stove
and
it requires the air tube gap at the gas jet, be adjusted from 6mm
(butane) to 4 mm (propane). I used an appropriately sized allen
wrench to measure this.
Pressure test the system before you fire it up! We now carry 30lbs
of
propane versus the Amel supplied 12 lbs. of butane.
Ed Steele
edmundsteele@e...

Re: 110 Volt Power

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

the amel plug has 3 wires a green and yellow and two hot 110 volt
wires. The usa side has a green, white, black and red.
when you connect the amel to the 220 volt 50 amp twistlock you do
not use the usa side white. the green and yellow goes to the usa
green
the other 2 amel wires go to the red and the black.
AGAIN do not use the us white (neutral side).
I have had no problem connecting in the virgin islands and in the
USA. I leave the 50 amp twistlock connected to my boat and use a
number of adapter cords that i have made to connect elsewhere.
Fair winds,
eric Freedman
Kimberlite sm 376

when you connect this to a twist --- In
amelyachtowners@..., "edmund_steele" <edmundsteele@e...>
wrote:
Walter,
If the marina you are planning on visiting can handle the depth
and
length of an Amel, they will most probably supply 50 Ampere /
220Volt
power. The supply outlet may in the form of a single twist lock
plug.
The plug contains 4 connectors which are both phases of 110 volts,
a
common and a ground wire. Many boaters (the majority are power
boaters) in the USA will then use a "splitter" to separate this
supply into two 110 volt cables which are then plugged into their
vessels as two separate cables. For the Amel, we simply plug the
single 220V cable directly into the boat.
Some marinas supply two 110 volt twist lock plugs on a post. These
outlets are of opposite phase so they can be combined to produce a
220 volt supply. This is the inverse of the "splitter" mentioned
above and can be purchased from WestMarine (www.westmarine.com).
WestMarine call this a "Reverse Y Adapter" Model 491985 and it
sells
for US$409.99

I have only once had to use a transformer to get 220V from 110V
and
that was because I did not have a 220V extension cord at the time.
This approach is also very limiting as you probably won't be able
to
take enough power off the 110 volt supply to run air-conditioners
without throwing it's breaker.

BTW, anything that has 220V on it tends to cost a fortune in the
USA.
For example, a 50 foot 110 volt extension cord may sell for US$40
but
a 50 foot 220 volt extension cord may cost near US$600. If you are
not
afraid of using a screwdriver, you can cut the plugs off a 110
volt
extension cord and replace the plugs with 220 volt plugs.
Ed Steele
DoodleBug SM331

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 110v

amelforme
 

Hello Walter,

Joel Potter here. When you get to the Caribbean, you will find 220 volts
more often than 110 volts. The bane of your existence will be in collecting
the assortment of plug-in adapters...every marina seems to have different
outlets. Coincidentally, most dock masters just happen to have the proper
adapter for their outlets...they never cost less than three digits.

To convert 110 volt to 220 volt most cost effectively, get a "reverse-Y"
cord. It plugs into two 110 volt outlets to give you 220 volt and employs a
blocking diode so you don't get smoked. West Marine has one, part # 491985.
It's a Marinco product and Marinco's product number is MARCO 167RY. Retail
is 549.50, but I've seen them on sale for less than $400.

Hope this helps.

Best regards to the entire crew on LINNEA.

Joel F. Potter
AMEL SUPER MARAMU, MARY BROWN hull # 400

------Original Message-----
From: Walter Lundstrom [mailto:linneasail@...]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:25 AM
To: AmelGroup
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 110v


We have just left the Med, and we're going to Caribbean and later on
Florida
with "Linnea" our SMM 2000. We have not installed an inverter and are
looking for a simple way to get 220v from the 110 outlets in the US. I
know
that we will not be able to use the dish washer and the washer/dryer due
to
the difference in frequency. However, I have some recollection about some
really simple and smart way to get 220v from 110v.

Any advise would be great!

Walter
S/Y Linnea (hull no. 366)

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110 Volt Power

edmund_steele
 

Walter,
If the marina you are planning on visiting can handle the depth and
length of an Amel, they will most probably supply 50 Ampere / 220Volt
power. The supply outlet may in the form of a single twist lock plug.
The plug contains 4 connectors which are both phases of 110 volts, a
common and a ground wire. Many boaters (the majority are power
boaters) in the USA will then use a "splitter" to separate this
supply into two 110 volt cables which are then plugged into their
vessels as two separate cables. For the Amel, we simply plug the
single 220V cable directly into the boat.
Some marinas supply two 110 volt twist lock plugs on a post. These
outlets are of opposite phase so they can be combined to produce a
220 volt supply. This is the inverse of the "splitter" mentioned
above and can be purchased from WestMarine (www.westmarine.com).
WestMarine call this a "Reverse Y Adapter" Model 491985 and it sells
for US$409.99

I have only once had to use a transformer to get 220V from 110V and
that was because I did not have a 220V extension cord at the time.
This approach is also very limiting as you probably won't be able to
take enough power off the 110 volt supply to run air-conditioners
without throwing it's breaker.

BTW, anything that has 220V on it tends to cost a fortune in the USA.
For example, a 50 foot 110 volt extension cord may sell for US$40 but
a 50 foot 220 volt extension cord may cost near US$600. If you are not
afraid of using a screwdriver, you can cut the plugs off a 110 volt
extension cord and replace the plugs with 220 volt plugs.
Ed Steele
DoodleBug SM331

Propane Conversion

edmund_steele
 

Hi Walter,
We ("DoodleBug SM331") switched our system from Butane to Propane 3
months ago. The plywood rack that holds the butane bottles unscrews
into its component parts. The base is lightly glued into place and
pries out easily. I put in two aluminium tanks of 20lbs and 10lbs.
capacity plus two regulators - all purchased from WestMarine. I cut a
piece of 3/4 inch plywood to match the base of the locker, with two
cut-outs to hold the base of the tanks.
The hard part was getting a fitting to hook the regulators into the
electric shut-off valve. I solved this by purchasing a connector plus
a couple of hose clamps from a propane supply store. This involved me
cutting off the connector from the butane hose and replacing it with
the purchased connector.
The burners on the stove require no adjustment but the oven burner
needs to have the air tube adjusted. We have the Eno brand stove and
it requires the air tube gap at the gas jet, be adjusted from 6mm
(butane) to 4 mm (propane). I used an appropriately sized allen
wrench to measure this.
Pressure test the system before you fire it up! We now carry 30lbs of
propane versus the Amel supplied 12 lbs. of butane.
Ed Steele
edmundsteele@...

Switching toi Propane

Marty Scheinberg <martyray@...>
 

If you plan in advance Amel will build a mini locker (typical Amel excellence) in the aft
lazerette. They would need an empty propane tank in order to build to size. The
mini locker would house two propane tanks. The gas line that runs from the galley
aft, would remain the same. However, a different size "Y" valve would also live in the
locker to accomodate the different type of gas. It would also be quite simple to switch
back to butane. In addition, an On /Off propane switch would be mounted in the
galley area [physically close to the butane switch (Ouvert/Ferme)] and the gas would
flow through both switches. I leave the butane O/F switch permanently in the Ouvert
position. I recommend a visit to the yard in Hyeres. My SM is "Rosebud", hull # 191.
More info required? Feel free to ontact me..
Good Luck, Marty

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] switching to Propane

Jim <jim@...>
 

Hi Walter,
Group member martyray@..., owner of SM Rosedbud has used propane for several years. I am sending him a copy of your email. Good luck.
Jim Grossman

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Lundstrom
To: AmelGroup
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:18 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] switching to Propane


Hi,

We have been in the Med for the last 18 months with "Linnea" our Amel SMM
(hull no. 366). Our boat is currently setup with the standard butane bottles
supplied by Amel. However, we are crossing to Caribbean (and later Florida)
in a few weeks, and it seems like we will need to switch to propane. Does
anybody have any advise/experience about what changes we would need to do to
start using propane instead of butane?

Walter Lundstrom
S/Y Linnea

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110v

Walter Lundstrom <linneasail@...>
 

We have just left the Med, and we're going to Caribbean and later on Florida
with "Linnea" our SMM 2000. We have not installed an inverter and are
looking for a simple way to get 220v from the 110 outlets in the US. I know
that we will not be able to use the dish washer and the washer/dryer due to
the difference in frequency. However, I have some recollection about some
really simple and smart way to get 220v from 110v.

Any advise would be great!

Walter
S/Y Linnea (hull no. 366)

switching to Propane

Walter Lundstrom <linneasail@...>
 

Hi,

We have been in the Med for the last 18 months with "Linnea" our Amel SMM
(hull no. 366). Our boat is currently setup with the standard butane bottles
supplied by Amel. However, we are crossing to Caribbean (and later Florida)
in a few weeks, and it seems like we will need to switch to propane. Does
anybody have any advise/experience about what changes we would need to do to
start using propane instead of butane?

Walter Lundstrom
S/Y Linnea

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Life raft

Hans-Joachim Schröder <Achimschro@...>
 

Hello Michael,

no specific information available for this particular liferaft. The manufacturer was highly recognized in Germany for the quality of their products. Their focus is no longer on liferafts for leisure boats.

The website is: www.bfa-augsburg.de

Hope this helps.

Regards

Achim Schröder
Kirk # 81 "Assis"

----- Original Message -----
From: silkair@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Life raft


Could anyone give me any positive or negative comments about a 15 year old
Deutsche Parachute 6-man liferaft.
Thanks, Michael P. McCarthy


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning

Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
 

Howdy PEN AZEN.

Boat show here, hence the delay. Yes the mizzen backstays are much looser.
You can tighten them so they don't vibrate in big breeze but not too much.
I plan on a large write up on rig tuning as soon as the show is over.

Hope this helps.

All the best,
Joel

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian & Judy Jenkins [mailto:ianjudyjenkins@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:48 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning


Hi Joel, On the subject of rigs, how tight do you make your backstays?
Every other part of my standing rigging is very tight but my backstays
have
always had a fair bit of play in them.Would you tighten them to the same
extent as the rest of the rig? Ian Jenkins, Pen Azen SM 302


>From: "Joel F. Potter" <jfpottercys@...>
>Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
>To: <amelyachtowners@...>
>Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning
>Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:10:38 -0400
>
>Hi Vito,
>
>I NEVER advocated a loose rig. It's dangerous to have loose rigging on
an
>AMEL. Most riggers/yards loosen the rigging because most boats are tuned
>loose because they flex. Amels are tuned very tight because they don't
>flex. You shouldn't have much sag in the headstay and very little, if
any,
>real slop in the lazy side shourds.
>
>TIGHT IS RIGHT. NEVER LOOSE.
>
>Hope this helps.
>Joel SUPER MARAMU MILLENNIUM #400 "MARY BROWN"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:53 AM
> To: amelyachtowners@...
> Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning
>
>
> I would be intrested in any opinions and recomendations on tuning the
> Amel ketch rig. The proper tune of the rig is directly related to the
> boats ability to point. Joel you recomend a loose rig what is your
> reason for this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Vito Ciaravino
> asm283
>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FT. LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW

BINS Dick <richard.bins@...>
 

Joel

It was nice to briefly visit with you and your lovely wife in Annapolis.
Commissioning ISSUES on the HR prevented us from meeting with you. We did
have an eventful & enjoyable two week cruise on the Chesapeake. We are
attempting to schedule a return to Ft. Lauderdale before Xmas, to revisit
the Mary Brown & inspect a new Tayana 55 that was recently delivered down
there. Hoping you have a successful show in FT. Lauderdale.

Richard Bins

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel F. Potter [mailto:jfpottercys@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] FT. LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW


WOOPS! You who are familiar with Fort Lauderdale already know that there is
no PIER 55, our boat will be at PIER 66, Dock C-64. Hope to see you there.

All the best,
Vela Potter
-----Original Message-----
From: Joel F. Potter [mailto:jfpottercys@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] FT. LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW


Dear Fellow Amel Owners:

With the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show upon us from October 30th - November 3,
we have received numerous inquiries from the Amel tribe on obtaining free
tickets to the show. I have a good supply of tickets for Friday October
31
through Monday November 3 available on a first come first served basis.
My
own Super Maramu Millennium MARY BROWN will be displayed at the show at
Pier
55 at Dock C-64. This is an "open entry" part of the show, you don't need
a
ticket to get in. Just stop by MARY BROWN and I'll be pleased to give you
tickets for the rest of the show. Free shuttle buses run about every
twenty
minutes to this area from parking at the Convention Center and on to the
shows other venues.

Again, I have a good supply of tickets, not a limitless supply. I don't
expect to run out but...Additionally, we spend a great deal of energy and
money to prepare for and to exhibit at the boat show. We may not be able
to
visit with you for as long as we wish so please try and understand if we
seem pre-occupied. The first function of boat shows is to take maximum
advantage of this target rich, uh, I mean potential client laden
environment. The show will not be the proper place to request parts and
service nor to share in any tales of woe...there's a time and a place for
everything. Everyone at Amel is always more than happy to assist our
clients as best we can through proper channels.

Myself and Vela along with Stephanie Rullier from the Amel Shipyard in La
Rochelle will be aboard. We look forward to seeing as many of you as
possible during the show. Until then, fair winds and following seas.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter Cruising Yacht Specialist
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Super Maramu Millennium #400 "MARY BROWN"







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winterizing watermaker

Randy Kilmon <drifter01us@...>
 

"Drifter" has been in the Caribbean for the past four
years. We're back in the Chesapeake Bay now and need
to winterize the watermaker. The Amel manual suggests
using glycerin mixed with the "pickleing" chemical.
Does anyone know if the non-toxic, pink antifreeze
would work just as well?
Many thanks,
Randy Kilmon
S/Y "Drifter" Amel SM 2000 #240

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Joel, On the subject of rigs, how tight do you make your backstays? Every other part of my standing rigging is very tight but my backstays have always had a fair bit of play in them.Would you tighten them to the same extent as the rest of the rig? Ian Jenkins, Pen Azen SM 302


From: "Joel F. Potter" <jfpottercys@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:10:38 -0400

Hi Vito,

I NEVER advocated a loose rig. It's dangerous to have loose rigging on an
AMEL. Most riggers/yards loosen the rigging because most boats are tuned
loose because they flex. Amels are tuned very tight because they don't
flex. You shouldn't have much sag in the headstay and very little, if any,
real slop in the lazy side shourds.

TIGHT IS RIGHT. NEVER LOOSE.

Hope this helps.
Joel SUPER MARAMU MILLENNIUM #400 "MARY BROWN"
-----Original Message-----
From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:53 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning


I would be intrested in any opinions and recomendations on tuning the
Amel ketch rig. The proper tune of the rig is directly related to the
boats ability to point. Joel you recomend a loose rig what is your
reason for this?

Thanks

Vito Ciaravino
asm283


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FT. LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW

Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
 

WOOPS! You who are familiar with Fort Lauderdale already know that there is
no PIER 55, our boat will be at PIER 66, Dock C-64. Hope to see you there.

All the best,
Vela Potter

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel F. Potter [mailto:jfpottercys@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] FT. LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW


Dear Fellow Amel Owners:

With the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show upon us from October 30th - November 3,
we have received numerous inquiries from the Amel tribe on obtaining free
tickets to the show. I have a good supply of tickets for Friday October
31
through Monday November 3 available on a first come first served basis.
My
own Super Maramu Millennium MARY BROWN will be displayed at the show at
Pier
55 at Dock C-64. This is an "open entry" part of the show, you don't need
a
ticket to get in. Just stop by MARY BROWN and I'll be pleased to give you
tickets for the rest of the show. Free shuttle buses run about every
twenty
minutes to this area from parking at the Convention Center and on to the
shows other venues.

Again, I have a good supply of tickets, not a limitless supply. I don't
expect to run out but...Additionally, we spend a great deal of energy and
money to prepare for and to exhibit at the boat show. We may not be able
to
visit with you for as long as we wish so please try and understand if we
seem pre-occupied. The first function of boat shows is to take maximum
advantage of this target rich, uh, I mean potential client laden
environment. The show will not be the proper place to request parts and
service nor to share in any tales of woe...there's a time and a place for
everything. Everyone at Amel is always more than happy to assist our
clients as best we can through proper channels.

Myself and Vela along with Stephanie Rullier from the Amel Shipyard in La
Rochelle will be aboard. We look forward to seeing as many of you as
possible during the show. Until then, fair winds and following seas.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter Cruising Yacht Specialist
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Super Maramu Millennium #400 "MARY BROWN"







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FT. LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW

Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
 

Dear Fellow Amel Owners:

With the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show upon us from October 30th - November 3,
we have received numerous inquiries from the Amel tribe on obtaining free
tickets to the show. I have a good supply of tickets for Friday October 31
through Monday November 3 available on a first come first served basis. My
own Super Maramu Millennium MARY BROWN will be displayed at the show at Pier
55 at Dock C-64. This is an "open entry" part of the show, you don't need a
ticket to get in. Just stop by MARY BROWN and I'll be pleased to give you
tickets for the rest of the show. Free shuttle buses run about every twenty
minutes to this area from parking at the Convention Center and on to the
shows other venues.

Again, I have a good supply of tickets, not a limitless supply. I don't
expect to run out but...Additionally, we spend a great deal of energy and
money to prepare for and to exhibit at the boat show. We may not be able to
visit with you for as long as we wish so please try and understand if we
seem pre-occupied. The first function of boat shows is to take maximum
advantage of this target rich, uh, I mean potential client laden
environment. The show will not be the proper place to request parts and
service nor to share in any tales of woe...there's a time and a place for
everything. Everyone at Amel is always more than happy to assist our
clients as best we can through proper channels.

Myself and Vela along with Stephanie Rullier from the Amel Shipyard in La
Rochelle will be aboard. We look forward to seeing as many of you as
possible during the show. Until then, fair winds and following seas.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter Cruising Yacht Specialist
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Super Maramu Millennium #400 "MARY BROWN"

Euros plexiglas doghouse supports

Ian McKnight <aimkesho@...>
 

I need to replace the Plexiglas supports to the doghouse of my 1973 Amel Euros. Amel tell me that the moulds for these are no longer available. Has anyone found an alternative source for these, or an alternative method of supporting the doghouse roof without loosing too much visibility?
Ian, sy Kesho


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