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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Gary, I have just printed some of your very useful photos on changing the membranes. Is yours a 60lph or 160 lph system? How many hours did you get out of your membranes before you renewed them? Cheers, Ian Jenkins SM 302


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] watermaker,TDS meter

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Dear John and Anne, Thanks for another good tip.We are in Blighty for the summer so have promptly been online to ro-man.Their prices look good, tho I'm not sure of they sell the membranes we would like to carry as spares.
Incidentally, how many hours have you on your watermaker? Fair winds, Ian and Judy, SM 302.

From: "John and Anne on Bali Hai" <hollamby@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] watermaker,TDS meter
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:10:18 -0000

There seems to be no doubt that the dessalateur salinity detector is
non functioning.A cheap and easy solution is to fit a simple TDS meter
in the output line.Such a meter is sold by an American company
tdsmeter.com and also sold in the UK ro-man.com for 23.50.
It is very small and has two sensors. I did not use the "in" sensor
and put the "out" sensor in the blue output line which can be found
behind the wooden cover at the front ot the big cockpit locker. This
blue pipe is easily cut with a razor knife and the ends pushed in as
far as they will go into the sensor. The wires from the sensors are
connected to the meter with a plug which is quite hard to pull out.
Once removed the plug can be pushed through the small gap created by
removing the screws holding the panel in place in the galley. The
meter is held in place with velcro.
The actual meter is only 3x2x0.75 inches with a very small screen.It
is powered by two button cells and stays on for about 20-30 seconds
when the on button is pushed. It does not have an alarm. It is sold
either with fittings for a small or a larger tube which is needed for
my 160ltr ph watermaker.Make sure that the tubes are pushed fully in
and the do a freshwater flush of the membranes to make sure there are
no leaks before replacing the coverboard.
I used it yesterday for the first time and got an initial reading of
over 9,000 ppm which soon went down to about 360ppm which is better
than Maltese mains water.
Incidentally I have followed Olivier's advice and never sterilised or
pickled the membranes which are still delivering 160 ltr. ph. even
though the machine stands idle for about five months a year. We do
however always flush it with product water after use if it is going to
stand idle for more than a few days. We never take on shore water and
rely totally on this machine.
With the benefit of hind sight I should have put both sensors in the
product out line !

Best wishes to all, Anne and John, SM 319









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] ais "RADAR"

Horst Pause <horst@...>
 

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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] ais "RADAR"



Hi,

I just finished installing this AIS "radar" unit on my boat and it works
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It only took 2 hours to install. I believe it is a very worthwhile
investment

Fair Winds,

Eric

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ais "RADAR"

eric freedman
 

Hi,

I just finished installing this AIS "radar" unit on my boat and it works
great.

It only took 2 hours to install. I believe it is a very worthwhile
investment

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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Water Maker Power Draw & Motor Fire

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Dear Yves:

Thank you for being the first to bring to our attention the problems associated with the
salinity sensor on the Dessalator water maker.

Your post about the motor fire doesn't specify if this was the high pressure pump motor or
the low pressure pump motor that burned. Can you please clarify? Was there any wire
charring?

As you can see from my previous post, based on my measurements last week, a 20 amp
circuit breaker is adequate for the entire system to operate at pressure. Additionally each
pump is individually protected by a circuit breaker. The high pressure pump has a 25 amp
circuit breaker and the low pressure pump has a 5 amp circuit breaker (see photo section
for water maker electrical box component labels).

It doesn't quite make sense to have a total system CB of 20 amps and an individual motor
CB of 25 amps.

Regards, Gary Silver
s/v Liahona Amel SM 2000
Hull 3 335

in the
amelyachtowners@...

I think it is important to advise you, who have got a DESSALATOR watermaker, that I
nearly had fire in by boat.
The 220 V. motor, having no electrical protection, burned.
Somebody said, on this forum, that the line circuit breaker was not big enough and was
contemplating to replace it by a bigger one; I would suggest not to do that. If a breaker
trips it is probably because the motor is faulty and takes too much power when starting or
blocking. It is a good thing that it tripped; mine didn't. Anyway the breaker in the
switchboard is there to protect the line / cable and not the motor which should have, like
all other appliances (charger, air conditioning, fans…), a specific protection adapted to its
way of working. DESSALATOR water makers have none.
Be careful !!

Yves MARTIN d'AIGUEPERSE
`'BLUE MARINE''
SM N° 311





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Water Maker Salinity Sensor is Not Hooked up to Anything

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

I have spent more than 40 hours drawing complete schematics and logic diagrams for the
Dessalator water maker Control Board on my Amel SM 2000 , Hull # 335. I have verified
that the salinity sensor is wired to the circuit board on pin 11 and pin 12 of plug # 2 (see
the photo section for a component labeled photo of this board).

I HAVE VERIFIED THAT PIN 11 OF THIS BOARD IS NOT CONNECTED TO ANYTHING. PIN 12
GOES TO GROUND BUT THE SALINITY SENSOR THUS CONNECTED IS AN INCOMPLETE
CIRCUIT AND IS NOT FUNCTIONAL. FURTHERMORE, AS CURRENTLY CONFIGURED I CAN
NOT DETERMINE ANY WAY TO MAKE THE SALINITY SENSOR SYSTEM FUNCTIONAL. I CAN
ONLY CONCLUDE THAT THE SALINITY SENSOR ON MY WATERMAKER IS A SHAM
INSTALLATION.

I URGE EVERY AMEL OWNER TO INSPECT THEIR DESSALATOR WATERMAKER CIRCUIT
BOARD. IF YOUR CIRCUIT BOARD IS THE SAME ONE AS DEPICTED IN THE PHOTO SECTION
AND THE SALINITY SENSOR IS WIRED TO PLUG 2, PINS 11 AND 12 THEN YOU CAN BE
ASSURED THAT THE SALINITY SENSOR IS NOT FUNCTIONAL IN ANY WAY.

Another way to determine if your salinity sensor is functional is to see if your system
changes to "good quality" and green LED light at the 55 second to 65 second mark. If it
does then the salinity sensor is NOT functional. The timing function of the control board
determines the start up sequence and does function for high pressure (overpressure) shut
down of the system. No other sensing inputs to the board are functional. It takes about 3
to 4 minutes for the TDS creep to come down to good quality water after system start up.
This brief period of bad water production is of no consequence when compared to the
major volume of water production that follows.

I urge all owners to install a continuous EC (electrical conductivity) monitor with alarm
funciton on the product water line of their water maker. If you do this you will soon find
that the high EC alarm will sound for the first 3 - 4 minutes after startup I have installed a
mute switch in the alarm relay line so that I can monitor the start up sequence with the the
alarm muted and when the EC drops to 450 microSiemens/cm (about 500 ppm TDS) I can
"arm" the alarm by throwing the switch to allow the alarm to sound the second EC goes
over 500 mSiemens/cm.

Dessalator and the Dessalator UK rep have intimated that Amel made this type of
installation. But since the wiring inside the electrical box was undoubtedly made by
Dessalator and not Amel, and Amel has represented all along that the salinity sensor
system was functional, I believe this sham installation was unknown to Amel. The
integrity with which Amel has always conducted itself leads me to believe that this fraud
was NOT perpetrated by Amel. I don't fault Rod Boreham, the UK representative for
Dessalator, as he was just passing along what Dessalator was telling him.

You now know the truth about the salinity sensor on our Dessalator water maker.

Your opposing opinions are welcome. I would like nothing more than to be proven wrong
on this issue.

Regards, Gary Silver s/v Liahona (currently on the hard in Jolly Harbor Antiqua)
Hull #335


Bowthruster

ivarmylde <mylde@...>
 

Hi,
Can anybody help me. I hve had mooring rope in the thruster due too
short mooring rope. Now cannot get bowthruster fully up ca 1,5 cm
left. Not sure if get it fully down, but when I dive can move the
propeller freely, but when I push button for right and left nothing
happens.
When I push down there is no beep sound - when take it up there is
sound.
I take it thruster is slightly out of normal position
Is there a circut breaker for the propeller ? since the propeller dont
work or is it because the thruster is slightly out of position.
Now cruising northern Sicily, Italy. I can go to Trapani in a couple
of days.
If anybody hve a good solution pls cpy my satelit mail:
silfrania@...
Thks v.m.
Rgds Ivar Mylde
53 Silfrania


Water Maker Power Draw

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

9 June 2006

REGARDING POWER DRAW OF DESSALATOR 160 l/hr WATER MAKER

I have verified that the power consumptions on my Dessalator Water Maker on my hull #
335 Amel SM 2000 are as follows:

1. Control Circuity on with only the Low Pressure Pump Running = 2 amps = 430 watts

2. Control Circuity on plus Low Pressure Pump Running and High Pressure Pump running
under no load (i.e. the pressure not dialed up) = 13.5 amps = 1390 watts

3. Same as #2 above but running at operating pressure making 160 l/hr = 14.4 amps =
2550 watts

My 20 amp circuit breaker would randomly trip while running with these loads. I ordered
a new 20 amp breaker and a 25 amp breaker from Amel, (33 Euro and 48 Euro
respectively). I installed the 20 amp breaker and haven't had any trips in about 15 hours
of operation. It appears to me that a properly working 20 amp breaker sholuld be
adequate for this installation.

If your water maker is tripping its 20 amp breaker I recommend using a clamp amp meter
to measure the current draw and if it is close to the values listed above then I suspect a
"weak" circuit breaker.

Regards. Gary Silver


Re: Motor on fuler for the Main Sail

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Linda DeSalvo <liebling207@...> wrote:
James:
The shaft on the main sail furling motor on our SM 2000 fractured in such a way that the
shaft remained partially engaged and would work while making a lot of noise. I originally
thought that the gear box was contaminated and the gears were making the noise but in
the process of disassembly we found the fractured shaft of the motor. This could be the
cause of the noise you are hearing. I would lower the motor-gear box assembly and see if
you can identify the source.

Amel supplied a new motor $US 606.00 in Nov 2004. It took about 3 hours of labor for
repaiirs.


Regards, Gary Silver


The motor on furler on the main sail is making a lot of noise. Is there anyone out there
that has had this problem and what did you do about it.
Thanks James DeSalvo Liebling207

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watermaker,TDS meter

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

There seems to be no doubt that the dessalateur salinity detector is
non functioning.A cheap and easy solution is to fit a simple TDS meter
in the output line.Such a meter is sold by an American company
tdsmeter.com and also sold in the UK ro-man.com for £23.50.
It is very small and has two sensors. I did not use the "in" sensor
and put the "out" sensor in the blue output line which can be found
behind the wooden cover at the front ot the big cockpit locker. This
blue pipe is easily cut with a razor knife and the ends pushed in as
far as they will go into the sensor. The wires from the sensors are
connected to the meter with a plug which is quite hard to pull out.
Once removed the plug can be pushed through the small gap created by
removing the screws holding the panel in place in the galley. The
meter is held in place with velcro.
The actual meter is only 3x2x0.75 inches with a very small screen.It
is powered by two button cells and stays on for about 20-30 seconds
when the on button is pushed. It does not have an alarm. It is sold
either with fittings for a small or a larger tube which is needed for
my 160ltr ph watermaker.Make sure that the tubes are pushed fully in
and the do a freshwater flush of the membranes to make sure there are
no leaks before replacing the coverboard.
I used it yesterday for the first time and got an initial reading of
over 9,000 ppm which soon went down to about 360ppm which is better
than Maltese mains water.
Incidentally I have followed Olivier's advice and never sterilised or
pickled the membranes which are still delivering 160 ltr. ph. even
though the machine stands idle for about five months a year. We do
however always flush it with product water after use if it is going to
stand idle for more than a few days. We never take on shore water and
rely totally on this machine.
With the benefit of hind sight I should have put both sensors in the
product out line !

Best wishes to all, Anne and John, SM 319


Moorings at the Huntington Yacht Club

eric freedman
 

Hi All,
I was away last week and heard that someone tried to get a mooring at The
Huntington yacht club.
I do not know if they were OCC, Tartan Group members, Amel group members, or
just cruising acquaintances.
They were of the impression that moorings and slips were free at they knew
me. Please make a note that the moorings at the Huntington Yacht Club are
$40 per night and a slip is $3- a foot per night.
Fair winds,
Eric Freedman
Port officer Huntington Long Island New York.

-----Original Message-----
From: DickGuckel [mailto:captain.dick@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:05 PM
To: Undisclosed recipients:
Subject: OCC June E-mail List Newsletter

JUNE 2006 MONTHLY ELECTRONIC MAIL NEWSLETTER
Next Electronic Newsletter: July 1, 2006
Next full list: July 1, 2006 (quarterly)

OCC WEB SITE:
At the end of this update, along with the names, etc. of OCC
Officer contacts, I have included how to access our OCC web site.

If you experience problems receiving this update please let me
know and I will correct it.

Have you changed your address or phone/fax/e-mail numbers?
Bought a new boat? Please also inform the Club Secretary, Richard
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aware that the non-email information contained in this update may
not be as current as the official list maintained by Richard
Anderton our Secretary.

If the full list attachment is too much for you please let me
know.
Optionally, I can send:
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January and July.
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NB For those of you that have e-mail filter software set up,
all of the e-mails I send to you will contain "OCC" at the
beginning of the subject line. Actually, due to the plethora of
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filters, it would be prudent of all members to begin the subject
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The following is a significant change from this item listed last
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TOTAL PRODUCT RECALL - PAINS WESSEX IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTICE
(5/2006)
PAINS WESSEX ANNOUNCES TOTAL RECALL OF ALL white collision
warning (MK7) hand flares, Item No. 52651

Following investigations carried out after an incident in which a
member of the public was injured, Pains Wessex has announced a
total recall of all its Pains Wessex White Collision Warning
(MK7) Hand Flares Item No 52651.

No Red (MK7) Hand Flares nor any other Pains Wessex products are
being recalled. The recall does not affect Pains Wessex Australia
Aurora Hand Flares.

Pains Wessex has identified that there may be a risk that some of
these white flares will not fire as intended. All white flares
are therefore being recalled as a safety precaution.
Additionally, this total recall will allow us to bring these
products into our continuing investigation.

The Pains Wessex White Collision Warning (MK 7) Hand Flare Item
No 52651 is sold on its own and is also contained as a part of
the Collision Warn-Off Kit and the ORC RORC Distress Kit.

Customers with in-date Pains Wessex White Collision Warning (MK7)
Hand Flares Item No 52651 are requested not to use the flare, and
to return it immediately to the place of purchase where the
purchase price will be refunded. If unable to return the flare to
the place of purchase, customers may take the flare to their
nearest chandler.

Customers with out-of-date Pains Wessex White Collision Warning
(MK7) Hand Flares Item No 52651 should contact Pains Wessex on
+44(0)2392 623965.

To assist its customers with this recall, Pains Wessex has set up
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USA(SE) WELCOMES SPRING ON THE CHESAPEAKE - 4-7 JUNE
Jim and Pepper McHutchison have put together a great OCC SPRING
CRUISE for all members who will be in the Chesapeake
June 4 - 7. We will assemble on Sunday, June 4th, in Dun Cove on
Harris Creek just north of Knapp's Narrows (38deg. 44.8N,
76deg.21.1W). Launches will transport us to a welcoming dinner at
Harrison's, Tilghman Island ($30/person). Monday evening we'll
rendezvous on the Wye River for a raft-up. Tuesday we visit
Baltimore's Inner Harbor (39deg.17N, 76deg.36.7W) anchoring near
square-rigger U.S.S. Constellation or mooring in Henderson's
marina at Fells Point and having dinner ashore. Tours of Fort
McHenry of "Star-Spangled Banner" fame will be available. The
finale will be Wednesday afternoon at Gibson Island Yacht
Squadron's clubhouse for a barbecue - a really nice way to
celebrate spring sailing. Contact Jim and Pepper at 410 745 6223
or at Jemchutch@... to let them know you're coming, please.

The traditional pre-Boat Show rendezvous at Mear's Marina, Back
Creek, Annapolis will be on Wednesday, October 4th and John
Koedel is once again hosting the Piankatank Fall Rendezvous at
Fishing Bay Yacht Club on Jackson Creek
(37deg.32.622N, 76deg.19.281W) on October 13-15, 2006. Mark your
calendars, all you cruisers from far and near--you'll find
Chesapeake Bay a delightful place to stretch the sailing
season! - Fred Hallett, R/C USA(SE)
f.hallett1@...

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REGALIA IN THE UNITED STATES (5/2006)
After working with a website designer, OCC regalia will be easier
to purchase on-line. Located at www.IM-Embroidery.com, the new
"shopping cart" makes it possible to select items and pay by
credit card or cash using PayPal. Orders are sent directly to
Gary and Greta, are processed within 48 hours or less, and,
depending on the item and personalization, are shipped within 24
hours of order completion.

Persons not using credit card or PayPal can still place an order
on-line; however, payment in the form of a check or a money order
should be mailed to IM Embroidery, P.O. Box 3214, Norfolk,
Virginia 23514 at the time of the order. Shipments are not made
until payment is received.

Gary and Greta offer a wide range of regalia items, including the
much sought after burgee. These durable nylon burgees are
reinforced at the tip of the fly making them less susceptible to
wind damage. They currently offer 18 and 24 inch burgees, an 18
inch house flag and the Port Officer flag. They also can
customize clothing orders well beyond the items pictured on the
website.

If you have any questions, either give them a call at
+1-757-627-0031 or
email at greta.gustavson@...

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HALLOWEEN RALLY AT BEAUFORT, NORTH CAROLINA (6/2006)
The second annual Halloween Rally at Beaufort, NC, will take
place on October 28-29, 2006. We will meet on the Beaufort
waterfront on the afternoon of Saturday the 28th, have some
cocktails and then dinner. On Sunday the 29th we will take a
day cruise to Cape Lookout Bight and back, weather permitting.
Questions, contact Jon Roop Port Officer, Beaufort, NC USA
jonroop@... or +1-252-725-0209

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TOBY BAKER (Rear Commodore, USA Northeast) (04/2006)
Rear Commodore USA (NE) Toby Baker announces the details of the
Maine Rally which will be held at Southwest Harbor, Maine on July
21, 2006 at the home of Roving Rear Commodores Nancy & George
Marvin at 10 Seascape Way. The venue includes wine, beer, soft
drinks, dinner and dessert, beginning at 1700 hours. Cost is $25
per person, $10 for children under 14. For those arriving by boat
transportation will be provided for the approximately 2 mi to
their house. Pick-up will be at the Manset Town Dock and will
commence at 1630 and those who will require transportation should
so indicate with their reservation. Despite what guide books may
indicate, anchoring is permitted in Southwest Harbor but do not
anchor in the fairway leading to the head of the harbor. Moorings
are available from the Harbormaster (VHF 16/09) or Hinckley's
(call Hinckley Dock on VHF 10) and dockage is available from
Dysart's Great Harbor Marina (207-244-0117). For those arriving
by car, directions will be provided upon request. Additionally,
George & Nancy are requesting volunteers arriving by car to help
shuttle the boat people to and from the party. Reservations are
requested by July 15 and may be made along with additional
inquiries to Nancy & George, 443-994-0669(anytime) or
207-244-3894(after 10 July) or aa3zo@..., and Peter
McCrea, 207-354-2314 or panacea35@....

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THE OCC WEB SITE HAS BEEN UPGRADED- CREATE YOUR OWN ACCOUNT IF
YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO (USER NAME & PASSWORD) TO UPDATE
YOUR DETAILS ON LINE. (5/2006)

Congratulations to the 222 Members (at the time of writing this)
who have succeeded in creating their own account on The OCC Web
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please have a go at this so that you may update your own contact
details, yacht, experience and sailing plans on the web. Soon,
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NEED YOUR OWN USER NAME AND PASSWORD.

TO CREATE YOUR ACCOUNT
Please open www.oceancruisingclub.org. and click on 'No Account
Yet, Create One' at the very bottom left hand side of the Home
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Choose a Password, and as a security check, enter the name of the
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The message will contain a web address such as
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Record up to date, including your "sailing experience" and "plans
aboard" for 2006.

OLD LOG IN PROCESS STILL AVAILABLE FOR "READ ONLY" ACCESS
For a short transitional period you may still log in using
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username or password for <flying> or <Ocean2> as you may deny
access to other members! Soon, you will not be able to get in to
the OCC Web site at all unless you use your own username and
password.

HELP!
If you are not sure what e-mail address the Club holds for you,
see "Members Details" on the Web Site logging in as username
<flying> password < fish> which will still give read only access
to the e-mail addresses known to the OCC.

If you have problems setting up your account, please e-mail the
secretary secretary@... telling him your
preferred username and a password. He will set up your account
and respond by e-mail when he has done so. You may change
username and password when by clicking on "My Details" when you
next log in.
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CHRIS BRIDGE: Cruising in Wales (05/2006)
I'm looking for information about cruising in Wales, especially
charts for and berthing around the Isle of Anglesey. I hope to
visit in August. Tradition is still in Kinvara in Ireland.
contact svtradition@... or +353 86 888 0491

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S/v OCEAN FLIGHT FOR SALE
(6/2006)
Dix 43' Built 1995 with extensive interior re-modeling 1998
BUILT OF STEEL, THIS IS AN OCEAN GOING VESSEL OF STYLE AND
CHARACTER, PRESENTED WITH AN EXTENSIVE INVENTORY AND IN EXCELLENT
CONDITION, READY FOR ANY OCEAN PASSAGE.

This design was commissioned by a circum-navigator passing
through Cape Town, to be his boat for the next time round. She
was required to be a go anywhere yacht of modern concept, with
the pace to complete long offshore passages in a reasonable time.
Radius chine hull shape gives good looks, hydrodynamic efficiency
and enhanced resale value.
Ocean Flight was originally built for the owner of her building
yard; the detailing and finish are extraordinary. She is
beautifully built of the highest quality materials, with no
expense spared, throughout her build, refit or maintenance
schedule.
Her second (present) owner carried out extensive remodeling of
the interior and upgrades to systems, sails and instrumentation
in 1998 prior to leaving on an Atlantic circuit. She is
completely self-sufficient from Aries wind vane, solar panels to
a water maker.
Ocean Flight returned to Cape Town in mid 2005; at which time she
benefited from new standing rigging and a complete re-spray. Once
again she is in excellent condition and ready to hit the high
seas again.

Price: ZAR2 000 000.00

Full specifications and a full inventory are readily available
from the owner as under:-

Colleen Douglass
E-mail: ody@...
www.yachtsclub.com/1433

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JON ROOP "SALT" for sale (03/2006)
Port Officer and Marine Surveyor Jon Roop offers his boat For
Sale:
"SALT" 47' Cutter-rigged ketch designed by Craig Walters and
completed in 1991 by a custom builder in North Carolina, USA.
Epoxy cold-molded hull built of double-diagonal fir laminates
over 1" Duracore strips inside and out. The masts are carbon
fiber/E-glass composite. Drop-keel design draws 2' 6" retracted
and 8' down; the boat can explore the shallows and is a proven
offshore passagemaker. Power is a Westerbeke (Perkins) 4-108;
spares are included. Presently just finished a substantial
re-fit; SALT can be ready to go cruising with routine
preparations. This is a solid, powerful and attractive craft.
Asking $139,000 USD. Contact Jon Roop at +1-252-725-0209 or
jonroop@...

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DICK GUCKEL:
FOR SALE: VANCOUVER 32 (1986) cutter-rigged "Charles Ogalin"
Take advantage of the weak US dollar.
Well equipped for extensive cruising. One owner, Dick Guckel.
Lloyd's Hull Release Certificate (never any blisters), AwlGripped
1999 (Flag Blue), Teak decks, Profurl furling, mast steps, Lewmar
ST winches, heavy ground tackle w/ Lofrans electric windlass,
Raytheon radar, Autohelm, B&G instruments, cabin heater, propane
cooker with oven, Adler/Barbour refrigerator, many more options.
Price reduced: US$79,000
I can be contacted any time for full list of options and photo
at: Home: +1-817-488-2005 Mobile: +1-682-553-8226 or
captain.dick@...

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DAVID BLACKBURN AND JULIA ASPIN: (6/2005)
FOR SALE "WHANAKE"
42'x 12'6"x7'6" Wood Epoxy Bermudian Cutter designed
by Chris Robertson and beautifully built in Auckland NZ in 1972
of Kauri Pine and Teak.
Much loved she has spent most of her life in OCC ownership
and has sailed over 109,000 miles, always taking great care
of her crew. She is in excellent condition, her woodwork is
superb and she is fully set up for ocean cruising with all
modern conveniences. Gowen Ocean provided new sails in 2005,
so she's ready to sail away anywhere.
Presently lying Costa Brava, owners willing to deliver.
See website www.whanake.com for full information.
Realistically priced at GBP 64,950 (reduced)
Contact David Blackburn / Julia Aspin
Tel: + 34 972 530285 e-mail: whanake_2000@...

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SUMMER NEW ENGLAND OCC NET (6/2006)
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AL BOERSMA:
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Long: 76-10.35W. Telephone: +1-410-827-4817. Water and
electricity (30 amp) available. I can accommodate one boat at my
dock with a draft not to exceed 4 1/2 ft. Call for directions.
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Dessalator

mcymabm@voila.fr <mcymabm@...>
 

amelyachtowners@...

Dear all,

I would like to thank Ian Shepherd for mentioning my « ABSURD SUGGESTION » concerning DESSALATOR.

On one hand, it is only facts and facts are stubborn: with “good quality” on, you can as well get no water as, far off limits, highly salted water poured in your tank.

On the other hand, I confirm that I received on December 20th 2004 from Patrick WAGNER, Managing Director of the company, a mail explaining that this non functioning design was made deliberately (on purpose).

I can forward it to Ian if he can read French.

I understand that since then other SM owners have reported on this forum that they have unfortunately experienced the same problem, which confirms that it is not only absurd suggestion, but real facts.( If I understand well, Gary Silver, Roy on Excalibur SM #195… ):
The water maker failed to divert bad water and
contaminated our entire water supply.
I fired up the water maker and with the green
light on, and the system producing water I tested the direct output
of the water maker, sure enough the product water was measuring about
9,000 ppm. >

Somebody also confirmed on this forum that he has been told that it is deliberately that this equipment is not connected, to prevent maintenance.

I also met other boats, non AMEL but having DESSALATOR, experiencing the same problem. Wagner confirmed to one of them, in January 2006, that the probe was only there as a mechanical “fuse”: in case of too high pressure in fresh water circuit it would “trip”, being pushed out of its base.

Since this supplier never answered my technical questions, cheats its customers, and also ridiculed all the problems I encountered with my equipment, I consider that this company is not serious at all and with such a way of behaving, only deserves to be pushed out of the market.

As to me, I rather prefer to stick to facts and figures than believe Wagner’s (and British rep) ABSURD “B.S.”. (e.g. 500Hz.)

No hard feelings.

Yves MARTIN d'AIGUEPERSE
Blue Marine
SM N°311


P.S.
1: I already wrote on this forum all the bad experiences I had with this equipment and in particular the 220 v. motor nearly putting fire to my boat because of the inexistent and inadequate original electrical protection of this motor …do not change the circuit breaker for a higher rated one, your motor should not take more. I advise to put a slow blow fuse to prevent from burning in case of blocked rotor….Be carefull!!

2: I just noticed that there are many other unsatisfied people now reporting on this forum.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lightweight RIB

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Dear Anne and John, Thanks a lot for that.I have been quoted a reasonable price cif Montevideo. My only problem now is to get the darn thing out of Uruguay without incurring their inport duty (20%) and VAT (33%!) Ian and Judy, Pen Azen.

From: "John and Anne on Bali Hai" <hollamby@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lightweight RIB
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:44:07 -0000

Hello Ian and Judy,
Sorry for my delay in replying but I have been away.
My dinghy is a Southern Pacific Shearwater 310 and it is great. It is
now five years old and looks like new despite the fact that it has
been exposed all that time to the strong Meditteranean sun.Another
plus point is that it has three airchambers which our previous AB did
not and it is therefore much less dangerous when, as happened to us in
the Tuamotus, a shark took a bite out of the fabric the size of my hand.
It is fitted with a Mercury 15hp motor with small hydrofoils on the
skeg and will do 24 knots with only my 100 kgs on board in flat water.
It also finally got up on the plane with three heavy adults and a lot
of shopping in choppy water.
It cost much less than any European RIBs when we bought it and if the
price has not gone up I would expect it to be competitive in price
even including air freight. The lightweight is great for lifting it
out onto deck. We will post a pic of it (in the SM319 album)deflated
on the aft cabin top,later today.
Their website is www.southernpacific.co.nz and their ph/fax no is or
was +64-9-4788075
On short passages with good forecasts it is carried on the Amel davits
which can be seen in the pic of my liferaft carrier in the Bali Hai
album. It is essential to lash it down firmly so that it is not thrown
around in a seaway. On very short passages we sometimes hoist the
dinghy and engine on the davits by using the passurelle halyard
clipped on to the davit at the engine end.On longer passages it is
carried inflated but inverted on top of the aft cabin because I am
mindful of the fact that no long time survival in a liferaft has been
recorded without a dinghy being used at the same time for stores etc.
I also recall the experience of an American family whose yacht was run
down at night in bad weather by a ship. The boy went down with the
boat but the couple and the young daughter found themselves in the sea
with their AB dinghy which popped up to the surface as the yacht
disintegrated.
Sadly the father and daughter perished but the mother survived after
the dinghy was blown ashore in NZ. It seems that the father went into
the water to save the daughter and then was unable to get back into
the dinghy. For this reason it is suggested that it is essential to
have a rope tied to the handles either side of the hull with one or
two knots in the scope so that a person in the water has something to
pull themself into the boat.
The ship was traced in Taiwan and in the subsequent case the widow
accepted undisclosed damages in an agreed settlement. It seems that
she was on watch alone when they were run down and she claimed that it
was her practice to go around the deck every 15 minutes to make sure
all was well! We were within 30 miles of them at the time and with
very strong winds and waves there is no way I would even think about
getting out of the cockpit. The other stupid thing that came up was
that they only used their radar when within 12 miles of the coast.
One of the perils of GPS is that people set a course on their
autopilot connecting two set points which are probably being used by
every other vessel thus ensuring maximum exposure to being rundown.

Sorry not to have replied earlier, Anne and John,SM319









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Furuno 1503 - Enable lower sideband

Judy Rouse
 

Does anyone know the code to enable lower sideband on a Furuno 1503?

Judy Rouse
SM Hull 387


Re: RIB on cabintop

Zanareva
 

I manually moved your photo to your album. Don't know why you aren't
allowed !?!
Richard

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "John and Anne on Bali Hai"
<hollamby@...> wrote:

We have tried to post this pic but for reasons known only to Yahoo
it
has gone into the album of pics entitled Aletes SM 240.We cannot
find
out how to delete it from there and at any event when we were trying
to put it in the SM319 album it told us that we did not have the
right.
We have given up trying!!!

In frustration.....Anne and John SM319


RIB on cabintop

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

We have tried to post this pic but for reasons known only to Yahoo it
has gone into the album of pics entitled Aletes SM 240.We cannot find
out how to delete it from there and at any event when we were trying
to put it in the SM319 album it told us that we did not have the right.
We have given up trying!!!

In frustration.....Anne and John SM319


Re: dryer vented?

r.zurkirchen
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "jrjrjrouse2000"
<sailingjudy@...> wrote:

We have a 2003 model Super Maramu 2000, built November 2002. We
strongly suspect that the clothes dryer is not vented correctly.
The
washing function works great, but the dryer leaves the
clothes "steamed" rather than dry. They get too hot to touch, but
still quite moist. Our only conclusion is that the dryer is not
vented correctly.

The manual onboard is simply a users manual, with no description
of
the installation process. Can anyone tell us how this dryer is
supposed to be vented?

Thanks in advance,

Judy & Bill Rouse
S/V Security,
SM2, #387
Hi, I have SM 407 of May 2003 and had last year the same problem.
Amel at Hyeres took the mahine out and got it repaired. It was a
little problem in the elecronics. Since then it works OK again.
Best regards
Rudy
SAMANTHA



Lightweight RIB

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

Hello Ian and Judy,
Sorry for my delay in replying but I have been away.
My dinghy is a Southern Pacific Shearwater 310 and it is great. It is
now five years old and looks like new despite the fact that it has
been exposed all that time to the strong Meditteranean sun.Another
plus point is that it has three airchambers which our previous AB did
not and it is therefore much less dangerous when, as happened to us in
the Tuamotus, a shark took a bite out of the fabric the size of my hand.
It is fitted with a Mercury 15hp motor with small hydrofoils on the
skeg and will do 24 knots with only my 100 kgs on board in flat water.
It also finally got up on the plane with three heavy adults and a lot
of shopping in choppy water.
It cost much less than any European RIBs when we bought it and if the
price has not gone up I would expect it to be competitive in price
even including air freight. The lightweight is great for lifting it
out onto deck. We will post a pic of it (in the SM319 album)deflated
on the aft cabin top,later today.
Their website is www.southernpacific.co.nz and their ph/fax no is or
was +64-9-4788075
On short passages with good forecasts it is carried on the Amel davits
which can be seen in the pic of my liferaft carrier in the Bali Hai
album. It is essential to lash it down firmly so that it is not thrown
around in a seaway. On very short passages we sometimes hoist the
dinghy and engine on the davits by using the passurelle halyard
clipped on to the davit at the engine end.On longer passages it is
carried inflated but inverted on top of the aft cabin because I am
mindful of the fact that no long time survival in a liferaft has been
recorded without a dinghy being used at the same time for stores etc.
I also recall the experience of an American family whose yacht was run
down at night in bad weather by a ship. The boy went down with the
boat but the couple and the young daughter found themselves in the sea
with their AB dinghy which popped up to the surface as the yacht
disintegrated.
Sadly the father and daughter perished but the mother survived after
the dinghy was blown ashore in NZ. It seems that the father went into
the water to save the daughter and then was unable to get back into
the dinghy. For this reason it is suggested that it is essential to
have a rope tied to the handles either side of the hull with one or
two knots in the scope so that a person in the water has something to
pull themself into the boat.
The ship was traced in Taiwan and in the subsequent case the widow
accepted undisclosed damages in an agreed settlement. It seems that
she was on watch alone when they were run down and she claimed that it
was her practice to go around the deck every 15 minutes to make sure
all was well! We were within 30 miles of them at the time and with
very strong winds and waves there is no way I would even think about
getting out of the cockpit. The other stupid thing that came up was
that they only used their radar when within 12 miles of the coast.
One of the perils of GPS is that people set a course on their
autopilot connecting two set points which are probably being used by
every other vessel thus ensuring maximum exposure to being rundown.

Sorry not to have replied earlier, Anne and John,SM319