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Varnishing

stargazer41amel <no_reply@...>
 

Has anyone attempted to varnish over or repair the original factory
applied varnish? I understand from the Amel factory that the varnish
is a sprayed 2 part polyurethane finish. It is very hard finish and
has held up well for the 16 year old vessel we have. But there are
areas that need repairing and I am really concerned how difficult it
is to deal with the existing finish. I was able to refinish the
floors, exterior trims and interior steps beautifully but they had a
different varnish finish. Any knowledgable help in this area will be
greatly appreciated. Delores Carter

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu for Sale in Australia

Vivian, Robert & Aron Lewin <lewin@...>
 

Hello... Pls let me have some details ...Age ...equipment Etc.. I am in
Sydney on 02 93371150
Robert.



On Sunday, September 21, 2003, at 12:26 AM, koenvelleman wrote:

My Super Maramu Flash IV is now for sale
She is on the hardstand in Bundaberg QLD and in perfect condition.


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Super Maramu for Sale in Australia

koenvelleman <no_reply@...>
 

My Super Maramu Flash IV is now for sale
She is on the hardstand in Bundaberg QLD and in perfect condition.

Re: Zeise diesel generator

koenvelleman <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Richard,

The water "sensor" in the Zeisse capsule is a simple double wire with
a screw connector at the end. The foam in the container can get a bit
oily and wet and the screw connector rusts away. This connector must
be drifting somewhere under the genset, just try to find it, put a
new screw connector on and things should be OK.
The other main problem with the Zeisse is the sea water pump, driven
by a small belt wich slips easely. Normaly Farryman puts the pump
directly on the cranckshaft, this works fine.
I also changed the thermostat to an 85°C and changed the cooling to
fresh water cooling and the Genset runs very smooth now.
Good Luck !
Koen
Flash IV
S/M 17


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I have a Zeise installed in my Super Maramu. The control panel has
an indicator light notifying me that there's water in
the 'capsule'.
Does anyone know where or what this 'capsule' is, and how to remove
the water? The manual is no help to me on this matter!
Thanks
Richard

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning

amelforme
 

Hi Vito,

I NEVER advocated a loose rig. It's dangerous to have loose rigging on an
AMEL. Most riggers/yards loosen the rigging because most boats are tuned
loose because they flex. Amels are tuned very tight because they don't
flex. You shouldn't have much sag in the headstay and very little, if any,
real slop in the lazy side shourds.

TIGHT IS RIGHT. NEVER LOOSE.

Hope this helps.
Joel SUPER MARAMU MILLENNIUM #400 "MARY BROWN"

-----Original Message-----
From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:53 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning


I would be intrested in any opinions and recomendations on tuning the
Amel ketch rig. The proper tune of the rig is directly related to the
boats ability to point. Joel you recomend a loose rig what is your
reason for this?

Thanks

Vito Ciaravino
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning

amelforme
 

-----Original Message-----
From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:53 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning


I would be intrested in any opinions and recomendations on tuning the
Amel ketch rig. The proper tune of the rig is directly related to the
boats ability to point. Joel you recomend a loose rig what is your
reason for this?

Thanks

Vito Ciaravino
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heaving to

Bill & Sara Atz <WCZ4455@...>
 

Occasionally we arrive before daylight after a long passage. I
asked Amel a few years ago how to "heave to" in the Super Maramu,
and they said to point just slightly off the wind and then run the
engine at low rpm. Is there a better way, without the engine?
Bill on Lady Sadie

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning

Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
 

Hi Joel,

Does this apply also to the backstays of the mizen mast? Mine was quite
loose and as far as I understand there are screws that prevent the rig to
get loose.

Regards


Dimitris Krassopoulos




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-----Original Message-----
From: Joel F. Potter [mailto:jfpottercys@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:11 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning


Hi Vito,

I NEVER advocated a loose rig. It's dangerous to have loose rigging on an
AMEL. Most riggers/yards loosen the rigging because most boats are tuned
loose because they flex. Amels are tuned very tight because they don't
flex. You shouldn't have much sag in the headstay and very little, if any,
real slop in the lazy side shourds.

TIGHT IS RIGHT. NEVER LOOSE.

Hope this helps.
Joel SUPER MARAMU MILLENNIUM #400 "MARY BROWN"
-----Original Message-----
From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:53 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning


I would be intrested in any opinions and recomendations on tuning the
Amel ketch rig. The proper tune of the rig is directly related to the
boats ability to point. Joel you recomend a loose rig what is your
reason for this?

Thanks

Vito Ciaravino
asm283


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Rig tuning

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

I would be intrested in any opinions and recomendations on tuning the
Amel ketch rig. The proper tune of the rig is directly related to the
boats ability to point. Joel you recomend a loose rig what is your
reason for this?

Thanks

Vito Ciaravino
asm283

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pointing ability of Super Maramu

Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
 

HELLO,

It is very interesting to read all these mails. My comment is that the
SM2000 is a superb boat for cruising and in cruising mode it outperforms
many cruisers/racers. My example is our recent common cruising with a superb
cruiser/racer from Denmark the X-562 (56 feet). I was sailing with my wife
and children the other boat had a crew of 3 sailors. We were able to arrive
always first to our end destination because we were able to start sailing 15
minutes before they were and we were able to reef online as we call it. When
the wind changed we wre able to hoist our mizzen staysail and we were again
faster although they were trying to hoist a gennaker. So the boat is
designed for cruising and it is fast, safe and easy to handle what are we
looking more than that.

Dimitris SM 2000 "Alma Libre"
www.almalibre.gr <http://www.almalibre.gr>

-----Original Message-----
From: Horst Pause [mailto:horst@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pointing ability of Super Maramu


Hello All,

I have read the various messages about the pointing ability of your boats,
saw, to my
horror, the suggestion to have an inside track fitted. Please don't - the
Amel boats are
the only ones where one can walk around on the deck without having to wear
shoes
with steel caps!

Also, it must have occurred to you that the (flatter) in-mast mainsail may
have some
influence on the drive of the boat when she's pointing high. I have only
compared this
on two Maramus, one with furling, the other with conventional main - the
difference was
just under 5 degrees (they both had reasonably new foresails).

Anyway, a ketch is not supposed to win races round the cans.

Horst

'
' Hi David
'
' I agree with everyone about the pointing ability of the SM. On my
' boat with a new 140 headsail by super sailmakers I am seeing about 40
' dg apparent. This weekend I came in 2nd in one of the local races. My
' main competition were a Cardinal 46, J35 and a Benetau 42s7. Boats
' known for their performance characteristics. In winds of 25 to 30
' knots I held my own against these boats to windward and nailed them
' off the wind. Most of the other boats including a J35 were nowere
' close. Any pointing ability that I gave up to my competition was more
' than made up to the ability of the SM to stand up to a breeze and its
' pure speed.
' --- In amelyachtowners@..., "davidcrisp" <david@f...>
' wrote:
' > Hi All,
' >
' > How close hauled should a Super Maramu sail? The best I can do is
' > 45deg apparent, which basically means going to windward is very
' slow
' > and frustrating. In calm seas I can pinch up to maybe 40deg
' > sometimes but speed suffers badly and I usually end up with an
' > accidental tack. Am suspecting (hoping) I have a problem. Having
' > raced a lot I believe I know how to trim sails and I have a new
' > genoa.
' >
' > So is 45deg apprent normal? If not anyone ahve any suggestions as
' to
' > my problem?
' >
' > Regards
' > David
' > Gallant of Fowey
'
'
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pointing ability of Super Maramu

Horst Pause <horst@...>
 

Hello All,

I have read the various messages about the pointing ability of your boats, saw, to my
horror, the suggestion to have an inside track fitted. Please don't - the Amel boats are
the only ones where one can walk around on the deck without having to wear shoes
with steel caps!

Also, it must have occurred to you that the (flatter) in-mast mainsail may have some
influence on the drive of the boat when she's pointing high. I have only compared this
on two Maramus, one with furling, the other with conventional main - the difference was
just under 5 degrees (they both had reasonably new foresails).

Anyway, a ketch is not supposed to win races round the cans.

Horst

'
' Hi David
'
' I agree with everyone about the pointing ability of the SM. On my
' boat with a new 140 headsail by super sailmakers I am seeing about 40
' dg apparent. This weekend I came in 2nd in one of the local races. My
' main competition were a Cardinal 46, J35 and a Benetau 42s7. Boats
' known for their performance characteristics. In winds of 25 to 30
' knots I held my own against these boats to windward and nailed them
' off the wind. Most of the other boats including a J35 were nowere
' close. Any pointing ability that I gave up to my competition was more
' than made up to the ability of the SM to stand up to a breeze and its
' pure speed.
' --- In amelyachtowners@..., "davidcrisp" <david@f...>
' wrote:
' > Hi All,
' >
' > How close hauled should a Super Maramu sail? The best I can do is
' > 45deg apparent, which basically means going to windward is very
' slow
' > and frustrating. In calm seas I can pinch up to maybe 40deg
' > sometimes but speed suffers badly and I usually end up with an
' > accidental tack. Am suspecting (hoping) I have a problem. Having
' > raced a lot I believe I know how to trim sails and I have a new
' > genoa.
' >
' > So is 45deg apprent normal? If not anyone ahve any suggestions as
' to
' > my problem?
' >
' > Regards
' > David
' > Gallant of Fowey
'
'
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pointing ability of Super Maramu

Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
 

Hi David,

Full water tank helps the boat to weather (stands up better, weight is down
low) 100' of chain is like having a fat boy on your bow pulpit and probably
worth about 2 degrees. Really. If the keel has any growth, ANY, it stalls
early.

The reason weight forward is bad is because it increases the polar moment of
inertia. Makes the bow go up and down more and a bit more side to side
which interrupts the flow, increases drag, and degrades your pace.

Hope this helps.

Joel F. Potter - SUPER MARAMU MILLENNIUM # 400 "MARY BROWN"

Re: Pointing ability of Super Maramu

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi David

I agree with everyone about the pointing ability of the SM. On my
boat with a new 140 headsail by super sailmakers I am seeing about 40
dg apparent. This weekend I came in 2nd in one of the local races. My
main competition were a Cardinal 46, J35 and a Benetau 42s7. Boats
known for their performance characteristics. In winds of 25 to 30
knots I held my own against these boats to windward and nailed them
off the wind. Most of the other boats including a J35 were nowere
close. Any pointing ability that I gave up to my competition was more
than made up to the ability of the SM to stand up to a breeze and its
pure speed.
--- In amelyachtowners@..., "davidcrisp" <david@f...>
wrote:
Hi All,

How close hauled should a Super Maramu sail? The best I can do is
45deg apparent, which basically means going to windward is very
slow
and frustrating. In calm seas I can pinch up to maybe 40deg
sometimes but speed suffers badly and I usually end up with an
accidental tack. Am suspecting (hoping) I have a problem. Having
raced a lot I believe I know how to trim sails and I have a new
genoa.

So is 45deg apprent normal? If not anyone ahve any suggestions as
to
my problem?

Regards
David
Gallant of Fowey

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pointing ability of Super Maramu

David Crisp
 

Claude,

I concur, the inner headstay is too much hassle and I would be
conncerned to make a modification to a proven design. Those guys in
Rochelle have got more things right than I have seen on any other
boat.
I'll go for the idyllic reaches. Are you out in the Caribbean,
that's our domain at the moment, would be nice to cross tracks one
day hsould the wind blow the right way.

David

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Claude Roessiger
<nearlynothing@y...> wrote:
Dear David,
Basically the SM doesn't do well closer than 45 wind
apparent. The sheeting angle is surely a major factor.
It is a hallmark of Amel boats; they are built to
cruise, for the open sea, where sailing close hauled
for any period of time isn't wonderful in any case.
This said, it is an issue, and one can only hope that
in a future boat Amel will improve upwind performance.
I have sometimes wondered if fitting an inboard track
and combining this with a smaller headsail might not
help, but I have concluded that it's more bother than
it's worth.
If you are really adamant about gaining another 5
degrees upwind, I suspect a headsail with a very
modern construction might achieve that. Maybe someone
has tried?
Basically, think in terms of idyllic reaches under the
stars of tropical skies....
Claude Roessiger

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pointing ability of Super Maramu

David Crisp
 

Hi Joel,

Thanks for the feedback. I was at the Southampton boatshow
yesterday and the Amel rep talked of 35deg or even less as being
normal with the La Rochelle demo boat he sails. When I apply your
comments to his claim it now makes sense - an empty boat, new
sails. Darn it I had hopes of going to windward better!!

I think 45deg is the reality for most of us in cruising mode.
I don't believe we have a particularly heavily loaded boat (famous
last words with all that storage maybe I deceive myself?!) and I
have always been very careful to keep weight out of the bows - most
lockers empty or light stuff. That said I have maybe sacrificed
that weight consciousness with 100' extra chain.

My genoa is a brand new Doyle 115% which I had made specifically for
the Caribbean trades. From day one we were still stuck in the 43-
45deg range (fully unfurled). Being technically minded what puzzles
me is how weight effects pointing ability. I had always assumed the
problem was fundementally the wide sheeting angle.

As they always say boats are about compromises and the Amel is a
very very good one. That said I'll be sad to sell Gallant when we
return to the UK, but for sailing around Europe in our variable
winds one needs good windward ability.

Again thanks for your usual precise advice. I will take a hard
look at our weight when we get back aboard and definately have a
campaign to shift things aft. Maybe keeping the water tanks half
empty will also help - 500l water is a lot of weight.

Best regards
David

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Joel F. Potter"
<jfpottercys@w...> wrote:
Hello David,

Flat water, 34-36 degrees apparent is achievable with
concentration and 40
degrees is easy. 45 degrees can be counted on in all but the worse
wind/wave conditions with an unfurled jib. If your sails are
original, I'll
bet they have deteriorated more than you imagine. Weight plays an
important
part of the equation as most Amels are too front heavy when loaded
for
cruising. Get weight out of the bow. A clean bottom and an
undamaged
leading edge to the keel are obvious further considerations.

My new boat with new sails and relatively empty will go to 33
degrees in
flat water and 38 degrees is easy enough for the pilot to manage
when
steering to the wind instrument. Watch the weight! It's easy to
accumulate
lotsa stuff!

Hope this helps.

Joel F. Potter, Super Maramu Millennium # 400 ( MARY BROWN)




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pointing ability of Super Maramu

Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
 

Hello David,

Flat water, 34-36 degrees apparent is achievable with concentration and 40
degrees is easy. 45 degrees can be counted on in all but the worse
wind/wave conditions with an unfurled jib. If your sails are original, I'll
bet they have deteriorated more than you imagine. Weight plays an important
part of the equation as most Amels are too front heavy when loaded for
cruising. Get weight out of the bow. A clean bottom and an undamaged
leading edge to the keel are obvious further considerations.

My new boat with new sails and relatively empty will go to 33 degrees in
flat water and 38 degrees is easy enough for the pilot to manage when
steering to the wind instrument. Watch the weight! It's easy to accumulate
lotsa stuff!

Hope this helps.

Joel F. Potter, Super Maramu Millennium # 400 ( MARY BROWN)

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pointing ability of Super Maramu

Claude Roessiger <nearlynothing@...>
 

Dear David,
Basically the SM doesn't do well closer than 45 wind
apparent. The sheeting angle is surely a major factor.
It is a hallmark of Amel boats; they are built to
cruise, for the open sea, where sailing close hauled
for any period of time isn't wonderful in any case.
This said, it is an issue, and one can only hope that
in a future boat Amel will improve upwind performance.
I have sometimes wondered if fitting an inboard track
and combining this with a smaller headsail might not
help, but I have concluded that it's more bother than
it's worth.
If you are really adamant about gaining another 5
degrees upwind, I suspect a headsail with a very
modern construction might achieve that. Maybe someone
has tried?
Basically, think in terms of idyllic reaches under the
stars of tropical skies....
Claude Roessiger

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Pointing ability of Super Maramu

David Crisp
 

Hi All,

How close hauled should a Super Maramu sail? The best I can do is
45deg apparent, which basically means going to windward is very slow
and frustrating. In calm seas I can pinch up to maybe 40deg
sometimes but speed suffers badly and I usually end up with an
accidental tack. Am suspecting (hoping) I have a problem. Having
raced a lot I believe I know how to trim sails and I have a new
genoa.

So is 45deg apprent normal? If not anyone ahve any suggestions as to
my problem?

Regards
David
Gallant of Fowey

Re: LOOKING FOR A NECO 692 AUTOPILOT CONTROL UNIT

Alejandro Paquin
 

I have posted a photo of the unit on the PHOTO section of the group.
Please have a look and tell me if you recognize the unit. There is
also a metal label on the back identifying the unit.
Alex Paquin



--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite1212
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
Hi do you have a picture of the unit that you are looking for?
i might have one.
eric
kimberlt@o...


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Alejandro Paquin"
<alex.paquin@u...> wrote:
I'm looking for a 12 volt Control Unit for a NECO 692 autopilot
for
my 1981 Maramu. Does anyone on this list have a discarded unit in
good working condition available for sale?
These units were manufactured in the late 70's through mid 80's.

Re: LOOKING FOR A NECO 692 AUTOPILOT CONTROL UNIT

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi do you have a picture of the unit that you are looking for?
i might have one.
eric
kimberlt@...


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Alejandro Paquin"
<alex.paquin@u...> wrote:
I'm looking for a 12 volt Control Unit for a NECO 692 autopilot
for
my 1981 Maramu. Does anyone on this list have a discarded unit in
good working condition available for sale?
These units were manufactured in the late 70's through mid 80's.