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Re: Mainsail Outhaul Car and Shackle

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Tom and Kirstin,

BeBe, #387, cracked at the weld on the crossbar on the shackle. Since the crack would not cause a critical failure, the next time I laced an order with Amel, I ordered one. I believe it cost about 6 Euros.

If you do not already know this, the trick is getting the outhaul line very tight. It is difficult to explain, but you can use the outhaul motor to tighten the outhaul line. To see what I mean, with the outhaul car against the stop, momentarily press the switch to furl...you will see how to tighten the line using the outhaul motor.

Even when you think it is tight enough, you may find after a few days that you will need to tighten it again.

Hope this helps.

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Malaysia/Thailand area
Blog: http://www.svbebe.com

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas" <thomas.kleman@...> wrote:

On the topic of "small job turns bigger", I recently set about replacing the outhaul drive line on the main boom. I discovered that the shackle has a crack in the crossbar. In looking for a replacement, I have come to learn that this piece is actually a standard Wichard shackle where the screw threads have been bored out (to allow for the unthreaded dowell which holds it in the car) and has been modified with a welded crossbar (from Amel ?). Anyway, I'm having one fabricated but I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem/opportunity to learn ?

Hoping one of you bought one a Westmarine for .79 cents recently.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K #422


Mainsail Outhaul Car and Shackle

Thomas <thomas.kleman@...>
 

On the topic of "small job turns bigger", I recently set about replacing the outhaul drive line on the main boom. I discovered that the shackle has a crack in the crossbar. In looking for a replacement, I have come to learn that this piece is actually a standard Wichard shackle where the screw threads have been bored out (to allow for the unthreaded dowell which holds it in the car) and has been modified with a welded crossbar (from Amel ?). Anyway, I'm having one fabricated but I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem/opportunity to learn ?

Hoping one of you bought one a Westmarine for .79 cents recently.

Tom and Kirstin
SM2K #422


anchor pulley

ornella.battaglini@libero.it <ornella.battaglini@...>
 

Hi all,
I need to replace the anchor's pulley on the bow of the Santorin: how can I
remove the pivot of the pulley?
Thanks for your answers
Ornella
Santorin N° 122 Earendil


Re: [Amel] Re: Maramu vs SM

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Max the Maramu fuel tanks are along that side and are a big deal to move one and two the weight and balance of the boat has to be given great consideration. Given that we all like our own space and in fact need it it your family may want to consider moving up to a second hand 53 and gain more space and a real bunk your kid can call their own.

Regards
Richard Piller

On Nov 2, 2010, at 17:18, "Max Shaw" <max.a.shaw@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the quick reply - was looking at the feasiblity for a berth for one of the children without using the saloon.

I certainly do not want to become one of those who mess up a good design if I purchase an Amel !

Cheers,

Max

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joel Potter" <jfpottercys@...> wrote:

A sea berth in the passageway of a Maramu is not feasible for anyone
approaching adolescence in size. In the saloon of the standard equipped
Maramu, you have an excellent sea berth to starboard with a backrest that
flips over to create a fine lee board. The sette area to port converts to
the best sea berth I have ever slept in as well as a fairly large double
berth. These berths, located amidship and close to the waterline, are very
useable in even very trying circumstances. Get someone who really knows a
Maramu inside and out to spend a few hours with you showing you the magic of
one of Captain Amel's favorite and most clever designs. The only bad thing
about a Maramu is finding one that has not been messed up by well
intentioned but unknowing owners unfamiliar with the entire Amel concept.
Good luck and buy the best one you can find. All things considered, that is
generally the best way to fetch the best overall value.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869
Email: jfpottercys@...



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[Amel] Re: Maramu vs SM

Max Shaw <max.a.shaw@...>
 

Thanks for the quick reply - was looking at the feasiblity for a berth for one of the children without using the saloon.

I certainly do not want to become one of those who mess up a good design if I purchase an Amel !

Cheers,

Max

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joel Potter" <jfpottercys@...> wrote:

A sea berth in the passageway of a Maramu is not feasible for anyone
approaching adolescence in size. In the saloon of the standard equipped
Maramu, you have an excellent sea berth to starboard with a backrest that
flips over to create a fine lee board. The sette area to port converts to
the best sea berth I have ever slept in as well as a fairly large double
berth. These berths, located amidship and close to the waterline, are very
useable in even very trying circumstances. Get someone who really knows a
Maramu inside and out to spend a few hours with you showing you the magic of
one of Captain Amel's favorite and most clever designs. The only bad thing
about a Maramu is finding one that has not been messed up by well
intentioned but unknowing owners unfamiliar with the entire Amel concept.
Good luck and buy the best one you can find. All things considered, that is
generally the best way to fetch the best overall value.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869
Email: jfpottercys@...



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Re: [Amel] Re: Maramu vs SM

amelforme
 

A sea berth in the passageway of a Maramu is not feasible for anyone
approaching adolescence in size. In the saloon of the standard equipped
Maramu, you have an excellent sea berth to starboard with a backrest that
flips over to create a fine lee board. The sette area to port converts to
the best sea berth I have ever slept in as well as a fairly large double
berth. These berths, located amidship and close to the waterline, are very
useable in even very trying circumstances. Get someone who really knows a
Maramu inside and out to spend a few hours with you showing you the magic of
one of Captain Amel's favorite and most clever designs. The only bad thing
about a Maramu is finding one that has not been messed up by well
intentioned but unknowing owners unfamiliar with the entire Amel concept.
Good luck and buy the best one you can find. All things considered, that is
generally the best way to fetch the best overall value.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869
Email: jfpottercys@att.net


[Amel] Re: Maramu vs SM

Max Shaw <max.a.shaw@...>
 

Is it feasible to retrofit a pilot berth into the walk thru ? I understand there is a fuel cell there. Can it be relocated assuming a loss of some tankage or storage is acceptable ?

Thanks

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric meury <ericmeury@...> wrote:

thank you to everybody that responded on this thread
 
i really found that the SM is a fantastic boat.  From what i understand the maramu has less systems (clearly).  Somebody mentioned that if the boat doesn't have a bow thruster one can be installed and that the aft cabin can be rebuilt to accomadate a queen bed.
 
The maramu  are missing the pilot berge in the walk thru.  Has anybod converted the table in the salon to a berth, i know this probably interfers with the wine and rum storage but that would be a great berth for guests.
 
thanks again.
 
hopefully i'll get to sail on an older maramu soon.
 
cheers
 
eric j.

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, karkauai <karkauai@...> wrote:


From: karkauai <karkauai@...>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Maramu vs SM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 8:24 AM








Is Golden Daze a Maramu or SM? Do you have a pic?
Thanks,
Kent
"Kristy" SM243



















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SM life railing

karkauai
 

Hi, all. I'm building a fish-cleaning board for Kristy that will attach to the railing. I'm not on the boat and want to be sure I drill the holes the proper size. I'm guessing it's 25mm dia, but want to double check before cutting (old woodworker's adage..."measure twice, cut once". Thanks for your answers.
Happy Holidays
Kent
SM243
KRISTY


Re: Fresh water accumulator tank Super Maramu #391

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Got it! Thank you

John
SM #391

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "sabbatical3" <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

John:

Reach behind the tank. There is a smooth metal cone that unscrews. The valve is behind it.

Mark
Sabbatical III, ASM #419
currently in Brisbane, Australia

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, johnabo2003 <no_reply@> wrote:

I have the 2003 Amel fitted large stainless steel fresh water accumulator tank with the amfa pump mounted on top.

I would like to re pressurize the tank by pumping some more air into it.
However I cannot find the air valve anywhere on the outside of the tank. I know this is an option because there is a label on the outside advising me to do so.

Does anybody know where the air valve might be?

Thanks
John


Re: Fresh water accumulator tank Super Maramu #391

Mark Pitt
 

John:

Reach behind the tank. There is a smooth metal cone that unscrews. The valve is behind it.

Mark
Sabbatical III, ASM #419
currently in Brisbane, Australia

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, johnabo2003 <no_reply@...> wrote:

I have the 2003 Amel fitted large stainless steel fresh water accumulator tank with the amfa pump mounted on top.

I would like to re pressurize the tank by pumping some more air into it.
However I cannot find the air valve anywhere on the outside of the tank. I know this is an option because there is a label on the outside advising me to do so.

Does anybody know where the air valve might be?

Thanks
John


Fresh water accumulator tank Super Maramu #391

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

I have the 2003 Amel fitted large stainless steel fresh water accumulator tank with the amfa pump mounted on top.

I would like to re pressurize the tank by pumping some more air into it.
However I cannot find the air valve anywhere on the outside of the tank. I know this is an option because there is a label on the outside advising me to do so.

Does anybody know where the air valve might be?

Thanks
John


Hatches

Conn Williamson <connwilliamson@...>
 

Hi there, if you go to the files section on the amel owners websit there is a
really good file on the goiot part numbers.

regards Conn...Mango #28


Re: [Amel] Hatches for Santorin and bilge pump

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

The hatches will be made by Goiot ---pretty bullet proof. Before you go to the expense of changing them I recommend that you merely change the rubber gaskets. That should do the trick. Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, San Carles de Rapita.

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: belitbh@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:09:20 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Hatches for Santorin and bilge pump

Hi again,

It seems that our hatches are bit 'tired' and the rear cabin hatch is
complaining by leaking... - any recommendation for new hatches? stadard ones which can fit well? are the Santorin hatches matching standard sizes of the various manufacturers?

in our last sailing, the connection between the bilge pump to its electric
motor has disconnected (it looks like battery terminal connection), we have observed that the 'shaft' coming out of the motor is too short what makes the'battery terminal band' holding not ideal - is it by original design or maybe the motor is not properly positioned? in this regard, we want to put a back up pump - any tips on which will be the best and how to connect one (outlet,
position etc...)?

hope that now we are more specific to get answers...



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Hatches for Santorin and bilge pump

belitbh <belitbh@...>
 

Hi again,

It seems that our hatches are bit 'tired' and the rear cabin hatch is
complaining by leaking... - any recommendation for new hatches? stadard ones which can fit well? are the Santorin hatches matching standard sizes of the various manufacturers?

in our last sailing, the connection between the bilge pump to its electric
motor has disconnected (it looks like battery terminal connection), we have observed that the 'shaft' coming out of the motor is too short what makes the'battery terminal band' holding not ideal - is it by original design or maybe the motor is not properly positioned? in this regard, we want to put a back up pump - any tips on which will be the best and how to connect one (outlet,
position etc...)?

hope that now we are more specific to get answers...


Weather Forecasting Self sufficiency

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Kent,
For years now, one of the strong advocates of what you're saying below, ie., becoming your own expert (or at least self-sufficient) has been Lee Chesneau, NOAA Senior Marine Meteorologist (ret).

Lee is offering his excellent 3-part seminar through Seven Seas University, the on-line educational arm of the Seven Seas Cruising Association, starting November 17.
Here's the link: Modern Marine Weather with Lee Chesneau
http://www.sevenseasu.com/7seasu/index.php?option=com_jevents&task=icalrepeat.detail&evid=60&Itemid=45

Or just go to ssca.org and click through the links to SSU and Lee's class.

He's also offering this in an intensive one-day seminar at the SSCA GAM in Melbourne, Fl. The "GAM" runs Friday thru Sunday, November 12-14 and Lee's seminar is all day Sunday for only $150. Again, check it all out at ssca.org

Btw, there's a member's discount for all courses - about time you joined!
SSCA is a great date at just $50 a year.

Cheers, Craig
Santorin #68 "Sangaris"
Disclosure - I'm Pres of SSCA.


On Oct 27, 2010, at 21:44, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
.... Still just learning all this weather info collection, and now have my SSB working, finally. Will probably ... get my own weather charts via the SSB and SatPhone email...will see what seems to work best for me and how close I can come on my own to what the experts are saying.


Re: [Amel] Gulf Stream Chart

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Kent when in the N Atlantic stick with Herb for the stream position regarding your boat. Best is get off shore beyond the gs go SSE until u hit the trades then turn west. Keep in mind there are very clear signs of an extended tropical storm season this year.

Best of winds for all going south is season.

Regards
Richard Piller

On Oct 27, 2010, at 21:44, Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo.com> wrote:

That's what I've been using the most before I set sail Richard. It's pretty graphics-intensive and takes a long time to download using my Iridium SatPhone, though, so not really what I want while I'm at sea. Still just learning all this weather info collection, and now have my SSB working, finally. Will probably use Chris Parker's services and will listen to Herb this time out, as well as get my own weather charts via the SSB and SatPhone email...will see what seems to work best for me and how close I can come on my own to what the experts are saying. Hopefully in another year I'll be comfortable going out without paying a weather router to help me.

I've gotta say, I'm a bit intimidated by the SSB stuff, though I'm just getting started. Does anyone have any suggestions for a good handbook to guide me through the nuts and bolts of using it...for cruising nets, weather, phone communications, and email (sail mail)? I've got Marine SSB for IdiYachts, and a pretty basic instructional manual for my ICOM 710, but I still feel pretty lost after reading both of them through a couple of times.

Hope all of you have a great sailing season, and that I'll get to meet many of you in the next few years.

Happy Holidays,
Kent
SM243
KRISTY


--- On Wed, 10/27/10, Richard03801 <richard03801@yahoo.com> wrote:

Kent on passage weather dot com and click on the stream it'll show the current and forecast position

Regards
Richard Piller




Re: [Amel] Re: Downwind Sailing

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Don't forget the mizzen balloner it works well in light winds.

Regards
Richard Piller

On Oct 22, 2010, at 13:58, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com> wrote:

For deep downwind we often drop the main and just let the twins do their thing. We carry a roll of self adhesive insignia cloth so we can create sacrificial patches in the event we notice chafe in any of the sails. So far the biggest issue we have is the main has picked up some damage while flaked due to the non-skid on the top of the dodger.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "svbebe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Can't say what others do, but we never let the mainsail touch the shroud. Sails are too expensive to risk damage and it seems that the shroud would wear on the sail. If it is anticipated to be only a half-day run dead downwind, we normally just pole out the jenny and put the mizzen to the opposite side with a preventer, taking care to also keep the mizzen sail off the shroud. We leave the main furled because it just isn't possible to get the main far enough out with the wind directly astern. If winds are very light, we pole out our asymmetrical (not a standard Amel sail). The asymmetrical is not designed for dead downwind, but it works fine with the pole and stays filled better than the heavier genoa because it is such a light material.

For downwind sailing we use just one pole probably 80 to 90% of the time. After you get used to it, rigging the pole is very easy for 2 people.

You will probably get several different answers on this question.

Judy
S/V BeBe
SM2 #387

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Re: [Amel] Re: Raymarine plotter issues

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Eric I just did 2 deliveries with E80 unit both went on and off for no apparent reason. Not a good thing in close quarters. No other issues when the screen comes back it does not go through a start up cycle.

Regards
Richard Piller

On Oct 20, 2010, at 22:27, "eric" <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:

what model reymarine plotter(s) has this problem?
thanks
eric
sm 376 Kimberlite

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

I was in San Diego a few days ago and spoke to a broker and a few other people who explained that Raymarine has been having problems with their plotters blanking out. Apparently their tech support people have been instructed to blame power issues on the boat but if pushed hard enough, they will arrange for repairs. It's apparently a known defect.

I know someone recently made a post describing some problems with their plotter which they thought were a boat electrical issue. Raymarine tech support in the US can be reached at 866.244.3372


NECO chain and link piece

maramu48 <maramu48@...>
 

Does anyone have a NECO chain and link piece? Please email me at: henderson_don@hotmail.com. thanks


Re: [Amel] Like to purchase Amel Maramu 45-46

yossi_kl
 

Dave,

I know that I have to refit and it takes sometime and mony,But I can spent it according to my cash flow carefully controlled, Other option (that I don't like) is lo take a loan.
I don't have any broker but ready to have.

Best regardes
Yossi

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 2010-10-29 08:32
Subject: Re: [Amel] Like to purchase Amel Maramu 45-46



Yossi,

How much do you have budgeted for a refit?

Any Maramu under $100K USD is going to be a major project. The previous owner of our boat spent $130K USD on the refit before he had a health issue that compelled him to sell the boat. All the major items were replaced but we still had to put on new sails, new LPG system, stove, toilet, and lots of small projects. And there's still things to be done.

One advantage of working with a broker is that he or she can supply you soldboats.com data that shows you what the boats have actually sold for. A good broker will help you fine tune your search so that you don't waste time looking at boats that are either out of your price range or don't meet your requirements.

Good luck in your search.

In this economy brokers are happy to work with people looking to spend $75K.
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, יוסי <yossi_kl@...> wrote:
>
> I will be happy to have any lead for such a boat and maybe add littel more money and increase my budget
> to purchase a boat.
> I am asking for help because (for my opinion) brokers do not like to deal with such boats (old = less fee)
>
> Best regards
> Yossi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard03801
> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 2010-10-28 01:01
> Subject: Re: [Amel] Like to purchase Amel Maramu 45-46
>
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>
> The Maram's that are in good shape are generally in the 150 to 180 $US range. You may want to look for a Sharkey or a poor condition boat and start over.
>
> Regards
> Richard Piller
>
> On Oct 25, 2010, at 8:48, "yossi_kl" <yossi_kl@...> wrote:
>
> > Well maintained inside,outside,engine,hull ext. and very good equipped for sea going .
> > I have a budget for purchasing a boat and can offer 75.000$ (USD).
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> > Yossi
> >
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