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Re: Deck Grooves

M. Ann Harsh <syharmonie@...>
 

Dear Bob, We have SM#160, and our stripes faded, etc. At the
suggestion of friends, Glen and Julie Bradley on SM C'est Assez, we
painted our stripes. We love it as do all who have seen it: our boat
looks new.

The job looks bigger than it is. First we tried "free hand painting
as Julie and Glen did. But we were not steady enough and were not
getting a finished result we liked. We tried taping and doing free
hand again. The deck is not smooth and taping does not stop the
bleeding into the light brown. Again the end result was not good.
Finally we found the paint striper Joel referred to via the internet
from J.C. Whitney, auto parts wholesaler. Our striper was the one
they had at 1/16 of an inch. I now know that there are other sizes
but I do not know where to get them. The 1/16 inch worked fine you
must just go back and forth several times to fill in the whole
groove. The stiper cost about $10 and about the same to mail it to
us.

Instead of the two part polyurethane paint, we used one part. In
discussions with the paint experts we expect this to last around 10
years. It is now 1 year old and looks like new. We painted our
stripes black. Talking to another SM owner who saw our decks, he has
found (or had made a dark brown). It is not a standard color that is
available in the quantity (qt) we wanted. And we think the black
truly makes our decks look like teak. We poured the paint into a
plastic squeeze bottle so I could readily refill the striper as I
painted. Paint etc. cost us about $40.

Now for the work effort. My husband, Ralph, preped sections of the
deck for my painting(about 1 hr. each day I painted). This consisted
of washing, lightly sanding the grooves (he used an edge (pink pearl
eraser) the size of the grooves and then wiping with a sovent to
again clean grooves. These instructions as per the polyurethane can.
I then painted with the striper and used the solvent on a rag around
my finger to take off any stray paint. I also used a fine brush at
times for corners, bends, etc. I was on my hands and knees while
painting and a good knee pad is essential. It took me 9 days to do
the entire deck and I worked no more than 4 hrs a day. I got better
as I went and I waited until we had reasonable weather, not too much
heat. It took another 5 or 6 days to do the cockpit. About 50 hours
in total. The end result is well worth it. By the way, you will be
amazed at the different look (lighter) of the "teak" boards with the
increased contrast.

Good striping!!

Ann and Ralph on SM#160 Harmonie



--- In amelyachtowners@..., "rossirossix4"
<equinoxsolstice@h...> wrote:
Does anyone have any good techniques for darkening the faded dark
grooves in the faux teak decks. I'm OK with the faded "teak"
boards, but want to darken the gooves which have faded and
disappeared in places.

Bob Rossi, Santorin "Hanalei"

Re: Volvo agent

Bill & Sara Atz <WCZ4455@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Ian & Judy Jenkins"
<ianjudyjenkins@h...> wrote:
Can anyone send me the email address of a good Volvo agent in
Florida--
maybe the one who Joel Potter uses--he is away until 12 Sept.
Thanks. Ian
Jenkins SM 302
I had great success with getting Volvo and Onan parts by mail from
J.D.Neeson at Marine Parts Express. He went to great effort for an
initially very small order. Phone number is toll-free 877-621-2628
and the e-mail is inquiry@...
Bill on Lady Sadie
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Zeise diesel generator

Zanareva
 

I have a Zeise installed in my Super Maramu. The control panel has
an indicator light notifying me that there's water in the 'capsule'.
Does anyone know where or what this 'capsule' is, and how to remove
the water? The manual is no help to me on this matter!
Thanks
Richard

Volvo agent

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Can anyone send me the email address of a good Volvo agent in Florida--
maybe the one who Joel Potter uses--he is away until 12 Sept. Thanks. Ian Jenkins SM 302

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stainless rub rail

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

Joel,
how are the new stainless rub rails fitted to the new red stripe
amels?
can these be retrofitted to Kimberlite?
thanks
eric

please say hi to vela.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck Grooves

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello Joel,
what uv inhibitor do you use on your boat?
thanks
eric


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Joel F. Potter"
<jfpottercys@w...> wrote:
Hello Mr. Rossi,

The problem with the dark brown deck stripes is that they are made
of gel
coat. The darker the gel coat, the faster it oxidizes and fades
away. You
can preserve new gel coat with judicious applications of proper
ultra violet
inhibitors. It is nearly impossible to restore faded/missing dark
brown gel
coat. When you polish or clean it, you are removing it.

The fix is tedious and time consuming if you do it yourself or
rather
expensive ($1500) if you hire it out. In twenty five years of
preparing
used Amels for the resale market, the only real solution is to
paint these
stripes on with two part polyurethane paint after scrupulous
preparation of
the surface as directed by the instructions on the paint can.
READ THE
INSTRUCTIONS! It will save a lot of grief.

Some automotive paint supply stores (wholesale level) sell very
nice narrow
gauge paint rollers with a self contained paint reservoir. I have
used
these to good effect. Otherwise, mask and use artist camel hair
brushes.
The results will please you if you carefully prepare and mask the
surface
and if you READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.

Good luck.

Joel F. Potter SMM # 400


Re: Deck Grooves

minaxi53 <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "rossirossix4"
<equinoxsolstice@h...> wrote:
Does anyone have any good techniques for darkening the faded dark
grooves in the faux teak decks. I'm OK with the faded "teak"
boards, but want to darken the gooves which have faded and
disappeared in places.

Bob Rossi, Santorin "Hanalei"
Bob

I have SM6 which obviously is one of the first SM's made. The whole
boat is well maintained and looks good for her age. The decks however
are totally faded. My response? Leave it alone, the longer it ages
and fades the more realistic the "Faux" looks. I have had many people
ask why my SM has real teak and others have fake. That's how real it
looks when it gets really faded. Stick with it, it will look good
later and save you a lot of money/work. That's why Henri hates wood
on deck.
Regards
Bob Linley
SM6 "Minaxi"

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck Grooves

Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
 

Hello Mr. Rossi,

The problem with the dark brown deck stripes is that they are made of gel
coat. The darker the gel coat, the faster it oxidizes and fades away. You
can preserve new gel coat with judicious applications of proper ultra violet
inhibitors. It is nearly impossible to restore faded/missing dark brown gel
coat. When you polish or clean it, you are removing it.

The fix is tedious and time consuming if you do it yourself or rather
expensive ($1500) if you hire it out. In twenty five years of preparing
used Amels for the resale market, the only real solution is to paint these
stripes on with two part polyurethane paint after scrupulous preparation of
the surface as directed by the instructions on the paint can. READ THE
INSTRUCTIONS! It will save a lot of grief.

Some automotive paint supply stores (wholesale level) sell very nice narrow
gauge paint rollers with a self contained paint reservoir. I have used
these to good effect. Otherwise, mask and use artist camel hair brushes.
The results will please you if you carefully prepare and mask the surface
and if you READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.

Good luck.

Joel F. Potter SMM # 400

Re: Crash bar/Bose speakers

scentstone <scentstone@...>
 

Dear Eric,

Could you give answers (small) online in the way to be seen by other
members ?
Many thanks
Fred


--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite1212
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
Vito,
i have both.
give me a call 631-423-2000.
eric
--- In amelyachtowners@..., asm283 <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
Hi

I purchased the crash bar to install on my SM #283. I am not
exactly
sure of the best location to install it. Some of you have this
feature on your boats. It would be great if you can desribe to me
the
location and installation done by Amel. Better yet post a picture.

On another subject, I want to install the Bose speaker system on
my
boat. Does anyone know if I need to install an amplifier or will
the
standard radio work by itself.

Thank You

Vito Ciaravino

ASM 283

Wanderer

Deck Grooves

rossirossix4 <equinoxsolstice@...>
 

Does anyone have any good techniques for darkening the faded dark
grooves in the faux teak decks. I'm OK with the faded "teak"
boards, but want to darken the gooves which have faded and
disappeared in places.

Bob Rossi, Santorin "Hanalei"

Re: Crash bar/Bose speakers

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

Vito,
i have both.
give me a call 631-423-2000.
eric
--- In amelyachtowners@..., asm283 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
Hi

I purchased the crash bar to install on my SM #283. I am not
exactly
sure of the best location to install it. Some of you have this
feature on your boats. It would be great if you can desribe to me
the
location and installation done by Amel. Better yet post a picture.

On another subject, I want to install the Bose speaker system on
my
boat. Does anyone know if I need to install an amplifier or will
the
standard radio work by itself.

Thank You

Vito Ciaravino

ASM 283

Wanderer

Crash bar/Bose speakers

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi

I purchased the crash bar to install on my SM #283. I am not exactly
sure of the best location to install it. Some of you have this
feature on your boats. It would be great if you can desribe to me the
location and installation done by Amel. Better yet post a picture.

On another subject, I want to install the Bose speaker system on my
boat. Does anyone know if I need to install an amplifier or will the
standard radio work by itself.

Thank You

Vito Ciaravino

ASM 283

Wanderer

Raymarine and laptops

edmund_steele
 

Paul,
I upgraded my boat SM331 to the Raymarine electronics. The
chartplotter / radar display uses CMAP NT (or NT+) cartridges. In
order to make my laptop software compatible, so I could plan
routes "offline" so to speak, I bought the Raytech Navigator program
from Raymarine, plus a USB port reader for the cartridges. You can
also buy an NMEA to SEATALK converter box so that you can hook your
laptop into your nav system. The documentation for the Raytech
navigator program is amazingly poor but the interface is fairly
intuitive and the on-line help is OK. I bought the software and
cartridge reader from www.landfallnav.com.
Ed Steele
DoodleBug #SM331

RayMarine and MaxSea software

Paul and Helen Camp <sv_red_red_wine@...>
 

I will be taking delivery of hull 418 late next month. I have the
new Raymarine electrontics package and MaxSea software on my
laptop. Any suggestions as to which charts...cartridge or CD.. is
there a chartridge reader available which would allow me to download
off the computer to the plotter?? Don't want to duplicate the
charts and $$$ Paul Camp Lady "H"

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Drogues, Parachutes and Spare Sails

Shann, Mark V <shannmv@...>
 

Ed, no info on drogues or parachutes, sorry. I do carry 150 m of leaded warp to trail, but as I am now sailing in coastal waters of Red Sea - Egypt, not likely to deploy.

In terms of spare sails: I have a 1984 Maramu with: -

Normal cruising Main, Mizzen and Genoa.

To this is added a small jib flying off the inner forestay (with permanent roller reefing). This to be used in combination with second reef points fitted in the Mizzen, so that I can sail off a lee shore even in storm conditions. Both sails permanently deployed and ready to go.

Down below I also carry a No 3 Genoa and a Storm Genoa (from Amel).

Hope useful, Mark (Synnefoula - Maramu)

-----Original Message-----
From: Edmund Steele [mailto:edmundsteele@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 7:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Drogues, Parachutes and Spare Sails


Does anyone have any experience with or comments regarding the use of drogues and parachutes for severe conditions? Several authors have stated their preference for drogues but the Pardeys in their book "Storm Tactics" seem to prefer a parachute off the bow. Hopefully none of us will ever need either but what do Amel users carry?



My second question regards "spare sails". I do have an ATF storm jib for severe conditions but do Amel users carry any spare sails (Genoa, Main or Mizzen) on long passages or just rely on Amel to send a replacement of a non-repairable sail at the next port of call?



Ed Steele

"DoodleBug" #SM331


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Drogues, parachutes and spare sails?

edmund_steele
 

Does anyone have any experience with or comments regarding the use of
drogues and parachutes for severe conditions? Several authors have
stated their preference for drogues but the Pardeys in their
book "Storm Tactics" seem to prefer a parachute off the bow.
Hopefully none of us will ever need either but what do Amel users
carry?



My second question regards "spare sails". I do have an ATF
storm jib
for severe conditions but do Amel users carry any spare sails (Genoa,
Main or Mizzen) on long passages or just rely on Amel to send a
replacement of a non-repairable sail at the next port of call?



Ed Steele

"DoodleBug" #SM331

(No subject)

Roy A. Duddy, Esq. <rduddy.duddylawoffices@...>
 

I purchased an Amel Sharki hull #123 last year. It has a Perkins 108 diesel
installed. The starboard upper alternator has worn out. It apparently had
been rebuilt previously and needs to be replaced. What type/manufacturer
would you suggest to replace it? I don't have any specifications and the
identification plates have been painted. Thank you for your assistance.


Roy Duddy

Duddy Law Offices
175 Route 101
Bedford, NH 03110
603-472-8500
603-472-7333 Fax
rduddy.duddylawoffices@...

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance

Daniel R. Scoggin
 

Hi Bryon, wish I could help, you are ahead of us in the process. We are not
taking delivery until Nov. and will be making our policy effective on the
disposal date early in Oct. We were just happy to find coverage for the two
of us at a reasonable price.
If I learn more I will be sure and share it, Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: sailslady@... [mailto:sailslady@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:05 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance


Hi DAn:

Boy your email to the Amel group is timely for me. I am in the midst of
renewing my policy that expires 9/24.

I am negotiating with Al Golden and International Marine Insurance Services.
What can you tell me about their service as regards getting binders quickly
after you have sent in your deposit? How long before you got your typed
policy after you sent in your deposit?

Anything else you care to share might be helpful.

Thanks

Byron Henderson
SAILSLADY Hull #340


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance

sailslady@...
 

Hi DAn:

Boy your email to the Amel group is timely for me. I am in the midst of renewing my policy that expires 9/24.

I am negotiating with Al Golden and International Marine Insurance Services. What can you tell me about their service as regards getting binders quickly after you have sent in your deposit? How long before you got your typed policy after you sent in your deposit?

Anything else you care to share might be helpful.

Thanks

Byron Henderson
SAILSLADY Hull #340

Hydraulic Leak in SM 2000 Alma Libre

Dimitris <dkra@...>
 

Dear All,
I faced a problem with the SM 2000 Alma Libre which I want to
share with you just in case you have the same problem in the future.
We were motor sailing with 8 Knots and suddenly the boat started to
slow down and the motor started to increase rpm. Immediately I
reduced the throttle and opened the engine room which was messed
with red colour Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF).
The problem started from a leak between the hydraulic gear box and
the valve of the shaft break. I was able to locate the leak and
stop it but I could not use the motor as the quantity of ATF I had
with me was not sufficient and I was afraid that by using the motor
without enough ATF I could damage the hydraulic gear box . In the
mean time I spoke with the Technical department in Amel and they
advised me to unscrew the large screw in the back of the shaft break
cylinder in order to disable the break as it needs a lot of
hydraulic pressure to be disengaged when you start the engine and I
continued by sails ( 9 hours) until the next port to find and fill
the gear box ATF. So carry with you at least 3 Litters of ATF it
may be necessary in case of a leak.