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Watermaker high pressure pump. and internet addresses

John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
 

I have a set of instructions from Desalateur which say that the oil
for the cat pump is 0.75ltr. of SAE 30/40 engine oil and that it is
important not to mix different oils.
I think it is possible to get round Yahoo removing part of an Email
address by putting at in instead of @. Lets try,my old address was
hollambyatcompuserve.com and I gave it up because of the shoals of
spam mostly offering to restore my virility to its level of some sixty
years ago!!

Regards, John Bali Hai SM 319


SM 2000 Port Cockpit Lazarette Measurement Question

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hello fellow Amel owners,

I am not currently on my boat, yet I need to know a couple of dimension
for the port side cockpit lazarette.
1. I need to know (cm or inches ok) the height of the lazarette, near the
forward portion of the lazarette, from the floor to the bottom lip of the
seat scupper (as if you were going to slide a box into the most port aspect
of the lazarette).
2. Also I need to know the depth of the lazarette from the port outboard wall
to the inboard wall at the forward portion of the lazarette. If someone on
a SM 2000 would take a minute to measure that for me I would be most
grateful.

Thanks in advance, Gary Silver Amel SM2000 Hull # 335


Re: Requesting information on SM insurance

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

"Out of the hurricane box. Boat will be in NZ AU for some time
and then sailed back to the US."

I am insured thru Offshore Risk Management, William J. Coates, broker,
(305) 743-7711 or (800) 773-0105, or Google up their web site. He
has handled my insurance for 5 years including my needs in Europe,
on a transatlantic and in the Caribbean and east coast of the US. Perhaps
Pentanius (spelling) insurance is available in Australian and New Zeland.
They are a German company that is high rated and quite cheap but they
will not insure boats in US waters because of our litigenous society here.

My basic insurance annual premium has run about 1.2% of the hull value
insured plus about 15% of that premium added on for keeping the boat
in the hurricane box (currently in Antigua). I am not sure where the
hurricane box is for the southern hemisphere.

I have been pleased with Bill's service and knowledge. Give him a call
and let him know I sent you.

Best regards, Gary

PS If you put an email address in the body of the post it will be truncated
and not show up in the post. However, if you put your email in your
profile then responses on the site will be sent to that email address.
At least that is my understanding.


Re: Requesting information on SM insurance

drew_gaffney <drew.gaffney@...>
 

Gary,

Thanks. Out of the hurricane box. Boat will be in NZ AU for some time
and then sailed back to the US.

I'm confused about how Yahoo handles reply addresses> I've set my
preferences to show my address and I put my non-Yahoo email in the body
of the email. I've gotten replies directly to the vanderbilt.edu
domain...

Drew
--- In amelyachtowners@..., amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:

Drew: Yahoo trunkates all email addresses so I have to respond this
way. Where are you located? Will the boat be kept in or out of the
hurricane box? These items will greatly influence insurance decisions.
Regards, Gary Silver SM 2000 Hull # 335 s/v Liahona

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "drew_gaffney"
drew.gaffney@ wrote:

Am in the process of purchasing an Amel SM 2000; would appreciate
any
info and recommendations regarding insurance. Please respond to my
email drew.gaffney@
Thanks


Re: Requesting information on SM insurance

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Drew: Yahoo trunkates all email addresses so I have to respond this
way. Where are you located? Will the boat be kept in or out of the
hurricane box? These items will greatly influence insurance decisions.
Regards, Gary Silver SM 2000 Hull # 335 s/v Liahona

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "drew_gaffney"
<drew.gaffney@...> wrote:

Am in the process of purchasing an Amel SM 2000; would appreciate any
info and recommendations regarding insurance. Please respond to my
email drew.gaffney@...
Thanks


Requesting information on SM insurance

drew_gaffney <drew.gaffney@...>
 

Am in the process of purchasing an Amel SM 2000; would appreciate any
info and recommendations regarding insurance. Please respond to my
email drew.gaffney@...
Thanks


SSB Radio Ground

fruehaufp <fruehaufps@...>
 

To all,

I am installing a SSB radio. The Amel manual says "If the boat
hasn't got any SSB radio the ground plates are connected to the zinc
anodes. When setting up a SSB, disconnect the ground plates of the
anodes (behind the chart table)"

I take this to mean that the SSB ground should be separate from the
boat ground. The SSB will be connected to the ground plates and the
boat ground will be connected to the zinc anodes. Is this a correct
assumption?

Has anyone done this? Can you explain how this is done?

On my boat (hull #215 1998) there are two ground wires connected to
the rudder. One goes to a nearby copper strap which I assume
connects to the ground plates. The other wire goes into the boat
wiring harness which I assume is the boat ground for all the
underwater metal parts. The copper strap has a second ground wire
attached to it which I think goes to behind the chart table. The
ground lug behind the chart table has three wires connected together.

My boat has a copper strap where the antenna tuner should be
installed. I intend to attach tuner ground to this strap. I assume
that this ground is attached to the ground plates.

best regards,
Paul S. Fruehauf - Faraway Eyes - SM215


Re: SNAP, CRACKEL, AND POP?

jim <bocarico@...>
 

This snap, crakle and pop phenomenon has been
described as a marine life creature called "krill". I
have no details on it, but doing an online search
should produce useful information.
Jim


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Re: SNAP, CRACKEL, AND POP?

Zanareva
 

Peter,

Yes indeed the snapping and popping sound is caused by snapping
shrimp.

From National Geographic:

"Among the fascinating creatures of the deep is a finger-size shrimp
with an oversize claw—resembling a boxing glove—that it uses to stun
its prey by snapping the claw shut. The snapping produces a sharp
cracking sound. When colonies of the shrimp snap their claws, the
cacophony is so intense that submarines can take advantage of it to
hide from sonar.

The shrimp, Alpheus heterochaelis, is a dirty-green crustacean that
prowls the shallow waters of tropical seas. It has two claws', one
resembling an oversize boxing glove, which it uses to stun prey, such
as small crabs, by snapping the oversize claw shut.

Reported in the September 22, 2000, issue of Science that the
stunning snap comes not from the clap of the claws coming together
but from a bubble generated by the claws' rapid closing motion.

When the claw snaps shut, a jet of water shoots out from a socket in
the claw at speeds of up to 62 miles (100 kilometers) an hour,
generating a low-pressure bubble in its wake. As the pressure
stabilizes, the bubble collapses with a loud bang."

Richard


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SNAP, CRACKEL, AND POP?

Museum <museum@...>
 

When snorkeling you can hear the same sound and it is my experience that it
is sea urchin munching on shells and mussels. In the cold Danish waters you
won’t hear the sound as we have no sea urchin.



Regards,

Lars, Denmark

New owner of Santorin #79 “Salvagny”



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Sendt: 9. oktober 2006 16:41
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Hi Peter, Welcome to one of life's mysteries. I first heard this sound about

25 years ago and have heard it on various boats in various harbours. I have
yet to hear a definitive explanation for it, though the one that seems most
likely to me is that the hull picks up and magnifies the sounds of lots of
little sea creatures of some sort, be they worms, mussels or whatever.
Do let me know if you find the real answer! Ian Jenkins, Pen Azen, SM 302,
Uruguay

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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SNAP, CRACKEL, AND POP?
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:58:47 -0000

When below decks I hear a sound that most resembles the sound of rice
crispies, or of someone popping very small bubble wrap, or sizzling
grease. I am tied to a slip, the hull has recently been cleaned, the
zincs are good, and I am plugged in to shore power. Thank you Peter
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SNAP, CRACKEL, AND POP?

Dennis Woods <DENNISWOODS@...>
 

Peter, I too had the same experience in a marina in the med. I spent
virtually all night trying to trace an "electrical short" only to be told by
a livaboard that it was fish scraping away the growth from the bottom of the
hull. We moved away and it disappeared !

Happy sails

Dennis Woods

Il Flauto Magico SM 408



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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of pjppappas
Sent: 09 October 2006 14:59
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SNAP, CRACKEL, AND POP?



When below decks I hear a sound that most resembles the sound of rice
crispies, or of someone popping very small bubble wrap, or sizzling
grease. I am tied to a slip, the hull has recently been cleaned, the
zincs are good, and I am plugged in to shore power. Thank you Peter
Pappas "Callisto" SM 369


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SNAP, CRACKEL, AND POP?

Michael Glass <mglass@...>
 

Whe I was docked in Gran Canaria I heard the same sound for 4 days. I was told it was small shrimp (or some such sea life) munching on or around the bottom of the hull. The sound was most pronounced in the aft cabin if you put your ear to the deck. Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: pjppappas [mailto:pjppappas@...]
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SNAP, CRACKEL, AND POP?



When below decks I hear a sound that most resembles the sound of rice
crispies, or of someone popping very small bubble wrap, or sizzling
grease. I am tied to a slip, the hull has recently been cleaned, the
zincs are good, and I am plugged in to shore power. Thank you Peter
Pappas "Callisto" SM 369


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SNAP, CRACKEL, AND POP?

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Peter, Welcome to one of life's mysteries. I first heard this sound about 25 years ago and have heard it on various boats in various harbours. I have yet to hear a definitive explanation for it, though the one that seems most likely to me is that the hull picks up and magnifies the sounds of lots of little sea creatures of some sort, be they worms, mussels or whatever.
Do let me know if you find the real answer! Ian Jenkins, Pen Azen, SM 302, Uruguay

From: "pjppappas" <pjppappas@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SNAP, CRACKEL, AND POP?
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:58:47 -0000

When below decks I hear a sound that most resembles the sound of rice
crispies, or of someone popping very small bubble wrap, or sizzling
grease. I am tied to a slip, the hull has recently been cleaned, the
zincs are good, and I am plugged in to shore power. Thank you Peter
Pappas "Callisto" SM 369







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SNAP, CRACKEL, AND POP?

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

When below decks I hear a sound that most resembles the sound of rice
crispies, or of someone popping very small bubble wrap, or sizzling
grease. I am tied to a slip, the hull has recently been cleaned, the
zincs are good, and I am plugged in to shore power. Thank you Peter
Pappas "Callisto" SM 369


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New owner?

rob purdie <r.purdie@...>
 

Robin ,
thank you very much
for your detailed advice.
This is all so helpful.

Regards,
ROB.

On 8 Oct 2006, at 16:09, Robin Cooter wrote:

Rob,

Santorins are generally tough but, as with any boat, there can be
problems. A certain amout does depend on age and number as updating
does take place.

We have an old Santorin and our experience is as follows -

Do check the the genoa furling gear to make sure that the Manual/
electric changeover leaver is not stuck in electric. Take a look at
the base of the the foil and make sure that is solidly attached to
the furling gear.

Have a look at the furling gear on the mast and make sure the drive
unit is well secured and there is no splitting of the metal on the
mast where the unit is secured - it is not unknown, will it disengage?

Check the anchor winch switches they can be a source of problems -
see earlier correpondence.

Amels are rather prone to paint blistering on the mast and boom. It
can be rubbed down and touched up using a Renault colour car paint
but careful inspection will reveal this!

Find out if the headlinings are foam backed or felt backed. The
older foam back really don't last more than 10 years in hot
climates and replacing them are either expensive and, if you do it
yourself, a long, messy job. Do check them carefully.

In the engine room have a really good look at the right angle drive
box on the shaft. If there is any sign of oil leakage be
suspicious. If it is a seal on the shaft it can be replaced (means
lifting the engine aft a few inches) but if it is a gasket it is a
problem as they are no longer made and AMEL want to replace the
whole unit at high cost. A sympathetic engineer can make you a
replacement gasket but you need somebody who understands AMELs.

Also have a good look at the belt driving the shaft charger
alternator as if this is worn it means lifting the engine back a
few inches to repace -(more expence!) Does it have a spare fitted
ready to replace a broken belt?

Other AMEL "specialities" that need to be looked at carefully (or
find a surveyor who knows about AMELS) is the bow thruster - see it
work, look for wear in the lifting wire, look at the prop, some are
really chewed up, when was the oil last changed etc.; Have a good
look at the stearing gear for wear, chain tightness, quadrant in
the after cabin; when its out of the water look for oil leakage
around the prop and from the drain cock (port side just forward of
the prop.), when were the seals last changed?

Those are some of the main points for the Santorin and from there
on it's usual type checking the boat before you pay for a survey.
However I'm sure that other owners will come back with comments!

Regards,

Robin.

rob purdie <r.purdie@...> wrote:
I intent to change from a Rival 41 to an Amel Santorin
and have just joined the group. Can any member give me good advice
on general survey issues which might not be obvious to a newcomer to
the design?


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SNAP, CRACKEL, AND POP?

svmalaika@...
 

Most likely source of the sound is small fish feeding on the inevitable
algae that collects on the hull. I've frequently heard similar sounds.

Charlie
MALAIKA II
SM 336


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New owner?

Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
 

Rob,

Santorins are generally tough but, as with any boat, there can be problems. A certain amout does depend on age and number as updating does take place.

We have an old Santorin and our experience is as follows -

Do check the the genoa furling gear to make sure that the Manual/electric changeover leaver is not stuck in electric. Take a look at the base of the the foil and make sure that is solidly attached to the furling gear.

Have a look at the furling gear on the mast and make sure the drive unit is well secured and there is no splitting of the metal on the mast where the unit is secured - it is not unknown, will it disengage?

Check the anchor winch switches they can be a source of problems - see earlier correpondence.

Amels are rather prone to paint blistering on the mast and boom. It can be rubbed down and touched up using a Renault colour car paint but careful inspection will reveal this!

Find out if the headlinings are foam backed or felt backed. The older foam back really don't last more than 10 years in hot climates and replacing them are either expensive and, if you do it yourself, a long, messy job. Do check them carefully.

In the engine room have a really good look at the right angle drive box on the shaft. If there is any sign of oil leakage be suspicious. If it is a seal on the shaft it can be replaced (means lifting the engine aft a few inches) but if it is a gasket it is a problem as they are no longer made and AMEL want to replace the whole unit at high cost. A sympathetic engineer can make you a replacement gasket but you need somebody who understands AMELs.

Also have a good look at the belt driving the shaft charger alternator as if this is worn it means lifting the engine back a few inches to repace -(more expence!) Does it have a spare fitted ready to replace a broken belt?

Other AMEL "specialities" that need to be looked at carefully (or find a surveyor who knows about AMELS) is the bow thruster - see it work, look for wear in the lifting wire, look at the prop, some are really chewed up, when was the oil last changed etc.; Have a good look at the stearing gear for wear, chain tightness, quadrant in the after cabin; when its out of the water look for oil leakage around the prop and from the drain cock (port side just forward of the prop.), when were the seals last changed?

Those are some of the main points for the Santorin and from there on it's usual type checking the boat before you pay for a survey. However I'm sure that other owners will come back with comments!

Regards,

Robin.

rob purdie <r.purdie@...> wrote:
I intent to change from a Rival 41 to an Amel Santorin
and have just joined the group. Can any member give me good advice
on general survey issues which might not be obvious to a newcomer to
the design?






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SM chain counter and anchor windlass

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

Hi Ian,
We have just got back to Malta and seen your posting.My chain counter
has always been hopeless at measuring outgoing chain possibly because
it runs out so fast. It is useful when up anchoring if we zero the
meter and know how much chain is out because it is accurate at the
relatively slow speed counting up.
The two holes that you mention are there to insert securing bolts to
hold the counter mounting nascelle on the side of the winch motor
casing.I had to remove this casing when the rubber boot on the up
switch needed changing.
The switches on the casing are an Amel feature for which holes were
drilled about 26mm in diameter to take switches of 22mm diameter on a
curved surface. The Turkish agent for Lofrans naturally had no spares
but he sent me two smaller push switches plus a gasket for the casing
for 50 euros. The chandlery changed the switches for 22mm ones but
these had a different fine thread to the Amel ones which also have a
locating flange on the securing nuts so I merely used the new boots on
the original switches and like Amel used a lot of silicone to seal
them in place.
When the casing is off it exposes the wiring feeding the motor(three
wires) plus three wires from the switches to the solenoids and the
wiring from the chain counter which is connected to the wiring harness
in the space in the motor housing.
We have never been very happy with the placement of the anchor up
switch as Anne likes to lean over the pulpit to watch the chain coming
up etc and the switch is very badly placed for watching someone being
hoisted up the mast on the windlass rope drum. So I bought a deck
mounting foot switch made by Quick, the other Italian winch maker for
15euros and mounted it forward on the deck, portside, just ahead of
the builtin conduit for the port nav light and connected it to the
wiring harness. The wires to the switches are two in a pale yellow
colour and one in a pale orange and the connections have to made in
the port foredeck locker because the wiring out of the windlass and
into the solenoids etc in the forward cabin is thoroughly waterproofed
with large quantities of silicone sealant.

Best wishes to you, Anne and John, SM319


Re: regular service for the 220V high pressure watermaker pump?

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Mark

Yes the pump oilneeds to be changed every 500 hours or every few
years. It is quite a simple procedure. make sure you use the proper
CAT oil for the pump. I understand its some kind of soy/vegetable oil
that will not contaminate the water in case of a leak.

Vito

ASM 283

Wanderer

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "markmpitt" <mark_pitt@...>
wrote:

I have a Super Maramu with the 150 liter per hour watermaker.
Does
the 220V high-pressure pump require some kind of regular service? I
do not have any documentation recommending any maintenance but I want
to be certain before I head out to sea. It is the "Cat Pump" with the
blue oil reservoir and the faucet drain. Do I need to change oil or
seals? The pump works fine.

Mark "Sabbatical III" ASM #419


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM chain counter

Dr. Seidel <mseidel@...>
 

Re:chain counter-Sundance, sm349 has the same problem.ie. counts up in seconds. Will tackle this winter and post it if we can solve it. Murray Seidel, Wilmington, N.C.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Shepherd" <ocean53@...>
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM chain counter


Hello Mike,

I have a problem with my chain counter too. When at anchor, the reading
slowly counts down, though never up. I have contacted Pochon and they say
that it is a fault in the circuit board in the display meter. They say they
can fix it if I send the meter back to them. I would say that your problem
is also on this board.

My problem seems to be worse in high temperatures. I wonder where you are
located right now? Also, can you tell me if the two 13 mm holes in the side
of the sensor that is bolted to the left hand side of the windlass are
uncovered, or are they fitted with rubber plugs to keep moisture out? Mine
are open, which seems a a little odd.

Regards

Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader

-------Original Message-------

From: Mike Ondra
Date: 9/15/2006 1:41:04 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM chain counter

When turned on, our chain counter politely counts down, or up after pressing
the Z, in apparent seconds, completely unaffected by what may be happening
at the windlass. Have others experienced this and what is the culprit?

Mike Ondra
Aletes - SM 2000 #240










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