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Charging batteries
Patrick McAneny
My SM is on the hard for the winter,I only have 110 ac available to
me.When I run the onboard charger the breaker behind the distribution panel trips.Sometimes it does'nt trip for like an hour or so and during that time the charger is charging.Does anyone know what my problem may be?Could it be that the 110v is 60hrz.,would that trip the breaker?I have contacted a large dist.of stand alone chargers for 24v.batteries,and it sounds as though there is'nt a charger out there that will handle 8 batteries.I could purchase a charger with 4 leads and charge 2 batteries per lead.However this charger would cost about $600.00.If anyone has a cheaper solution or advice as to how best to charge on the hard I'd appreciate it. Thanks,Pat SM 123
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Amel SM2000 engine 75hp versus 100hp
n4796p
Hi all,
I am in the process of buying a used SM2000. Older versions (-2002) have a 75hp engine, but are interesting in sight of the price. Has anybody experience in changing the engine or does anybody have good arguements for the smaller engine? Armin
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank
Rob Brennan <brennan@...>
Bill Some timber panelling had to be cut, but easily repairable. I'll send
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photos as soon as possible. Rob Nebo #251 From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of leonorebt@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2007 1:22 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Rob, I can not imagine the pain of doing the whole keel deal! I feel for you. From under the floor boards I see the access board under the freezer. Question--can the freezer be removed without removing the wooden frame work. It appears that the wood is glued in and would entail damage if torn out. I am hoping for access without damaging the woodwork as it is superior on the boat. Your perspective is appreciated. Bill
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From: Rob Brennan To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: 12/5/2007 2:59:31 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Bill I'll try to send some photos. Definitely an access point under freezer. I also agree about lifting boat but to detach the keel has been a tough job, with some delamination. Rob (off Nebo #251 at the moment) From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of leonorebt@earthlink.net <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2007 7:47 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Rob, Is there an access plate to the 3rd section of the water tank, the section under the freezer. If not, no need to remove everything. thanks again for your prompt and helpful response Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Brennan To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: 12/3/2007 2:07:35 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Bill I'm supremely competent to answer the question. I am without keel at the moment. The answer is to remove everything: frig, freezer. The access is fabulous, and the inside of the boat looks like an opp shop. Good luck. Rob on Nebo SM251 From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of leonorebt@earthlink.net <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2007 3:11 AM To: amelyachtowners Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Hello Sailors, Does anyone know how to access the three sections of the water tank. I can get the one under the sink and under the floor boards in the galley but how does one get to the section under the counter and freezer? I was grounded on a sand bar and bounced. It cracked the water tank around the 500-510 liter area and I can see the crack which I cleaned and sealed with 5200 in the two aforementioned areas but am still leaking so must access the the third area which I have not been able to do. Any suggestions? Thanks for your advice. Bill Rahmig, SM 72 Leonore of Sark leonorebt@earthlink.net <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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Re: {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank
Anne and John Hollamby <annejohn@...>
Hello Bill
When the Amel Techs cured the leak from the bottom of the water tanks they removed the upright fridge,washing mashine and saloon freezer and stored them in the front of the saloon. This was very quickly done and they did not damage anything in the process. I do not recall how they moved the freezer but I am pretty certain that they moved it in one piece including the compressor etc. as there was no complications in reinstalling it all. I do recall thinking that perhaps the quality of the freezer insulation could have been improved whilst it was all open. Best of luck in your endeavours, John, SM319
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Re: {Disarmed} [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank
leonorebt@...
John, thanks so much for the research. In my situation I am not threatened with sea water incursion unless the sea water is up to the floor boards. I can see the inside crack longitudinally at about the 500 liter level in the tank which is about 6 inches below the floor boards. When filled above 500 liters the water seeps thru the crack and down into the bilge pump to be pumped overboard. I have repaired the crack in two sections of the tank, under the sink and under the galley floor board where access is relatively simple. The challange is under the reefer where there is another access point not readily available unless the freezer/refrig can be removed without damaging the fine wood work encasing same. The wood seems to be glued and that is troubling as removal would most certainly envolve damage unless I am missing something. Amel generally has provided for most contingencies so I am hopefull that that is the case here.
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Again, thank you for all your research and any additonal info you may have. Fair winds, Bill Rahmig SV Leonore of Sark SM 72
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From: Anne and John Hollamby To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: 12/5/2007 10:05:06 AM Subject: Re: {Disarmed} [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Hello Bill, It doesn't sound good.I entered water tank in the sites search box and got many old messages mostly referring to the non existent salinity monitor on the watermaker. Two that may help are Nos 3007 and 2996. There may be others but I gave up searching. I think if it were my problem I would fill the tank and have the boat lifted on shore so that I could see where the water was seeping out and have a serious GRP repair done. Remember that the leak works two ways and in the water a low fresh water level will allow sea water to get into the tanks which was one of the symtoms of the leak I had. Good luck, John Hollamby SM 319
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank
leonorebt@...
Rob, I can not imagine the pain of doing the whole keel deal! I feel for you. From under the floor boards I see the access board under the freezer. Question--can the freezer be removed without removing the wooden frame work. It appears that the wood is glued in and would entail damage if torn out. I am hoping for access without damaging the woodwork as it is superior on the boat. Your perspective is appreciated.
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From: Rob Brennan To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: 12/5/2007 2:59:31 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Bill I'll try to send some photos. Definitely an access point under freezer. I also agree about lifting boat but to detach the keel has been a tough job, with some delamination. Rob (off Nebo #251 at the moment) From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of leonorebt@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2007 7:47 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Rob, Is there an access plate to the 3rd section of the water tank, the section under the freezer. If not, no need to remove everything. thanks again for your prompt and helpful response Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Brennan To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: 12/3/2007 2:07:35 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Bill I'm supremely competent to answer the question. I am without keel at the moment. The answer is to remove everything: frig, freezer. The access is fabulous, and the inside of the boat looks like an opp shop. Good luck. Rob on Nebo SM251 From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of leonorebt@earthlink.net <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2007 3:11 AM To: amelyachtowners Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Hello Sailors, Does anyone know how to access the three sections of the water tank. I can get the one under the sink and under the floor boards in the galley but how does one get to the section under the counter and freezer? I was grounded on a sand bar and bounced. It cracked the water tank around the 500-510 liter area and I can see the crack which I cleaned and sealed with 5200 in the two aforementioned areas but am still leaking so must access the the third area which I have not been able to do. Any suggestions? Thanks for your advice. Bill Rahmig, SM 72 Leonore of Sark leonorebt@earthlink.net <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank
Rob Brennan <brennan@...>
Bill
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I'll try to send some photos. Definitely an access point under freezer. I also agree about lifting boat but to detach the keel has been a tough job, with some delamination. Rob (off Nebo #251 at the moment) From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of leonorebt@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2007 7:47 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Rob, Is there an access plate to the 3rd section of the water tank, the section under the freezer. If not, no need to remove everything. thanks again for your prompt and helpful response Bill
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From: Rob Brennan To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: 12/3/2007 2:07:35 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Bill I'm supremely competent to answer the question. I am without keel at the moment. The answer is to remove everything: frig, freezer. The access is fabulous, and the inside of the boat looks like an opp shop. Good luck. Rob on Nebo SM251 From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of leonorebt@earthlink.net <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2007 3:11 AM To: amelyachtowners Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Hello Sailors, Does anyone know how to access the three sections of the water tank. I can get the one under the sink and under the floor boards in the galley but how does one get to the section under the counter and freezer? I was grounded on a sand bar and bounced. It cracked the water tank around the 500-510 liter area and I can see the crack which I cleaned and sealed with 5200 in the two aforementioned areas but am still leaking so must access the the third area which I have not been able to do. Any suggestions? Thanks for your advice. Bill Rahmig, SM 72 Leonore of Sark leonorebt@earthlink.net <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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Re: {Disarmed} [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank
Anne and John Hollamby <annejohn@...>
Hello Bill,
It doesn't sound good.I entered water tank in the sites search box and got many old messages mostly referring to the non existent salinity monitor on the watermaker. Two that may help are Nos 3007 and 2996. There may be others but I gave up searching. I think if it were my problem I would fill the tank and have the boat lifted on shore so that I could see where the water was seeping out and have a serious GRP repair done. Remember that the leak works two ways and in the water a low fresh water level will allow sea water to get into the tanks which was one of the symtoms of the leak I had. Good luck, John Hollamby SM 319
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Depth Gage
svcharisma
Crash,
I have an '87 Mango and the water depth gage extends down into the aft chamber of the 4 water tank chambers. This is accessed through the floor in the galley, just in front of the reefer. The access opening is small, so you will need to be creative on how to recover and repair. Alan Mango #62 "Charisma" --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "BeyersWF" <BeyersWF@...> wrote: aluminum tube depth gage next to the ladder to the cockpit, it was stuck atabout 700 liters. I knew there was more water in the tank than that. Itried to "nudge" to tube up when I felt it give upward a "bit.' When Ireleased it, the tube fell to the bottom of the tank with a bang. How in theheck can I get to the tube in the bottom of the tank, under the fridge and atthe base of the ladder, to repair same? Help. I assume [bad word] thatAmel has a replacement although I haven't asked yet. I need to know how toget the old one out first. P.S. I'm a live aboard and its winter now. Notlooking forward to ripping the Mango apart right now.the compressor etc have to be removed from the box. Just trying to avoidat the moment.fabulous, and the inside of the boat looks like an opp shop.tank. I can get the one under the sink and under the floor boards in the galleybut how does one get to the section under the counter and freezer?around the 500-510 liter area and I can see the crack which I cleaned andsealed with 5200 in the two aforementioned areas but am still leaking somust access the the third area which I have not been able to do.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank
BeyersWF
From: Crash
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Subj: Water Tank on a '82 Mango, "Windrush" Problem: Water Tank Depth Gage While checking water depth on my '82 Mango using the aluminum tube depth gage next to the ladder to the cockpit, it was stuck at about 700 liters. I knew there was more water in the tank than that. I tried to "nudge" to tube up when I felt it give upward a "bit.' When I released it, the tube fell to the bottom of the tank with a bang. How in the heck can I get to the tube in the bottom of the tank, under the fridge and at the base of the ladder, to repair same? Help. I assume [bad word] that Amel has a replacement although I haven't asked yet. I need to know how to get the old one out first. P.S. I'm a live aboard and its winter now. Not looking forward to ripping the Mango apart right now. Crash From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of leonorebt@earthlink.net Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:43 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Thanks Rob I think, Can the freezer, frig be removed without breaking any seals or does the compressor etc have to be removed from the box. Just trying to avoid unnecessary damage.... Bill
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From: Rob Brennan To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: 12/3/2007 2:07:35 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Bill I'm supremely competent to answer the question. I am without keel at the moment. The answer is to remove everything: frig, freezer. The access is fabulous, and the inside of the boat looks like an opp shop. Good luck. Rob on Nebo SM251 From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of leonorebt@earthlink.net <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2007 3:11 AM To: amelyachtowners Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Hello Sailors, Does anyone know how to access the three sections of the water tank. I can get the one under the sink and under the floor boards in the galley but how does one get to the section under the counter and freezer? I was grounded on a sand bar and bounced. It cracked the water tank around the 500-510 liter area and I can see the crack which I cleaned and sealed with 5200 in the two aforementioned areas but am still leaking so must access the the third area which I have not been able to do. Any suggestions? Thanks for your advice. Bill Rahmig, SM 72 Leonore of Sark leonorebt@earthlink.net <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank
leonorebt@...
Rob, Is there an access plate to the 3rd section of the water tank, the section under the freezer. If not, no need to remove everything.
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thanks again for your prompt and helpful response Bill
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From: Rob Brennan To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: 12/3/2007 2:07:35 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Bill I'm supremely competent to answer the question. I am without keel at the moment. The answer is to remove everything: frig, freezer. The access is fabulous, and the inside of the boat looks like an opp shop. Good luck. Rob on Nebo SM251 From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of leonorebt@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2007 3:11 AM To: amelyachtowners Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Hello Sailors, Does anyone know how to access the three sections of the water tank. I can get the one under the sink and under the floor boards in the galley but how does one get to the section under the counter and freezer? I was grounded on a sand bar and bounced. It cracked the water tank around the 500-510 liter area and I can see the crack which I cleaned and sealed with 5200 in the two aforementioned areas but am still leaking so must access the the third area which I have not been able to do. Any suggestions? Thanks for your advice. Bill Rahmig, SM 72 Leonore of Sark leonorebt@earthlink.net <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank
leonorebt@...
Thanks Rob I think,
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Can the freezer, frig be removed without breaking any seals or does the compressor etc have to be removed from the box. Just trying to avoid unnecessary damage.... Bill
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From: Rob Brennan To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: 12/3/2007 2:07:35 PM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Bill I'm supremely competent to answer the question. I am without keel at the moment. The answer is to remove everything: frig, freezer. The access is fabulous, and the inside of the boat looks like an opp shop. Good luck. Rob on Nebo SM251 From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of leonorebt@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2007 3:11 AM To: amelyachtowners Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Hello Sailors, Does anyone know how to access the three sections of the water tank. I can get the one under the sink and under the floor boards in the galley but how does one get to the section under the counter and freezer? I was grounded on a sand bar and bounced. It cracked the water tank around the 500-510 liter area and I can see the crack which I cleaned and sealed with 5200 in the two aforementioned areas but am still leaking so must access the the third area which I have not been able to do. Any suggestions? Thanks for your advice. Bill Rahmig, SM 72 Leonore of Sark leonorebt@earthlink.net <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank
Rob Brennan <brennan@...>
Bill
I'm supremely competent to answer the question. I am without keel at the moment. The answer is to remove everything: frig, freezer. The access is fabulous, and the inside of the boat looks like an opp shop. Good luck. Rob on Nebo SM251 From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of leonorebt@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2007 3:11 AM To: amelyachtowners Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Hello Sailors, Does anyone know how to access the three sections of the water tank. I can get the one under the sink and under the floor boards in the galley but how does one get to the section under the counter and freezer? I was grounded on a sand bar and bounced. It cracked the water tank around the 500-510 liter area and I can see the crack which I cleaned and sealed with 5200 in the two aforementioned areas but am still leaking so must access the the third area which I have not been able to do. Any suggestions? Thanks for your advice. Bill Rahmig, SM 72 Leonore of Sark leonorebt@earthlink.net <mailto:leonorebt%40earthlink.net> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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Water Tank
leonorebt@...
Hello Sailors,
Does anyone know how to access the three sections of the water tank. I can get the one under the sink and under the floor boards in the galley but how does one get to the section under the counter and freezer? I was grounded on a sand bar and bounced. It cracked the water tank around the 500-510 liter area and I can see the crack which I cleaned and sealed with 5200 in the two aforementioned areas but am still leaking so must access the the third area which I have not been able to do. Any suggestions? Thanks for your advice. Bill Rahmig, SM 72 Leonore of Sark leonorebt@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: roller furling rivets
Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
We just replaced the rivets in our front roller with
Al. as well. The rivet guns can be had at most automotive stores that supply auto body shops for about 130 US. I'd rather replace a rivet then an roller any time. fair winds Richard and Joan SM 209 --- Craig & Katherine <sangaris@aol.com> wrote: Robin may have a good idea about using stronger ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/
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Yahoo Groups virus checking on messages
If your posts aren't getting thru, or they are getting stripped of
most of the content, or if you see DISARMED added to the subject line, then most likely Yahoo has detected and removed the malicious html tags/codes/scripts in your posting/email. At any rate, it makes great sense to have currently-updated anti-virus *and* spyware applications installed on your computer. Richard SM #5 Spice
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Re: Kenwood EU 340 washing machine SM 140 Sula
Graham Boyd
Dear Miles,
Thanks so much for that, you've solved the problem; "Sula" escapes the hack saw after all! Interestingly, having got the right lead from you the variations in price for these machines around Europe has been amazing: £700 in the UK to EU540 in Germany. As I travel around a fair bit, guess where I'll be buying mine?! Best wishes, Graham SM 140 Sula -- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Miles Bidwell" <mbidwell@...> wrote: machine was Eumenia. If this is the same as yours, we found that a newversion of the same machine (same size, same connections, quieter, fasterspin) is being made by Soba called a Babynova 1000. This machine is alsosold by ENO. I had a French chandlery order one and it works splendidly.The company's email is www.sobabaar.com <http://www.sobabaar.com/> .
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Antifouling--Coppercoat and greetings from the ARC
Frank Newton <bootlegger@...>
Hi Horst,
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They are handicapped under the ARC entry and give us time. Not surprisingly they are both ahead of us. Hope all is well with you. Weather out here is great at present 15kt ENE trades and fine, warm sunny weather. Still sailing the wind with Genny and balooner Course opver ground 250 degrees as we drive progressively SW to that big marquis on the water that awaits usfor that final beer before the crossing at the one and only 'bear right'Waypoint at 20.00N 30.00W which appears to be where many others are also headed. Keep in touch Frank
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From: horst.puddleduck [mailto:horst.puddleduck@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 28 November 2007 18:15 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Antifouling--Coppercoat and greetings from the ARC Frank, You are very brave to race the 54's, I hope that you agreed to a handicap prior to setting off. Anyway, good luck. Horst
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Re: Antifouling--Coppercoat and greetings from the ARC
horst.puddleduck <horst.puddleduck@...>
Frank,
You are very brave to race the 54's, I hope that you agreed to a handicap prior to setting off. Anyway, good luck. Horst
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Re: Kenwood EU 340 washing machine SM 140 Sula
Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
Hello Graham,
The washing machine on our SM 216 died last summer. The original machine was Eumenia. If this is the same as yours, we found that a new version of the same machine (same size, same connections, quieter, faster spin) is being made by Soba called a Babynova 1000. This machine is also sold by ENO. I had a French chandlery order one and it works splendidly. The company's email is www.sobabaar.com <http://www.sobabaar.com/> . Regards, Miles Bidwell (s/y LADYBUG)
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