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Re: Windlass Buttons & Extra Fuel

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Kent:
The Windlass switches are an Amel innovation and not part of the original Lofrans Tigress windlass. You access the switches by removing the back cover of the windlass (4 bolts or nuts, I forget which). The cover comes off and the switches are held in place with large nuts. The rubber covers are separate from the switches and, at least on my boat, are held in place by RTV. Once you get the cover off the windlass, clean it up and remove the old switches I think it is rather intuitive.

Regarding fuel for the Bermuda trip, I may be over simplistic, but when I did my Norfolk-Bermuda-Tortola trip a few years ago I think we used about 1/3 of our on board fuel. I don't believe that you need additional fuel for that relatively short trip, especially since you can re-fuel in Bermuda. Lashing things to the rails can have their own bad effects. We took a wave across the back cabin in heavy cross seas enroute to the Turks and Caicos Islands from Tortola a few years ago and it swept our boarding ladder away, breaking it and bending the brackets that held the ladder. It held on and was trailing behind the boat only by a lashing rope that I had attached. We managed to recover it and repair it, but one of the safety features of the Amel, in my opinion, is that its decks are relatively clean and un-cluttered. The only trip I carried extra fuel on was the trans-Atlantic from the Canaries to Guadeloupe, and then we only carried an extra 10 gallons. 21 days with lots of motoring and 6 people aboard using lots of water etc. and we had adequate fuel.

Just my two cents worth,

Gary Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM2000 Hull # 335

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Kent Robertson" <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi, all,
I've just received two new switches and four extra rubber covers for the buttons on top of my windlass. I tried unscrewing the outer rings on the switches, but they turn without backing out. I tried prying them up (gently), also without success. Is there a trick to getting them out or do I have to remove the casing from the back of the windlass?
Thanks,
Kent
Kristy SM 243


Re: [Amel] Re: Heading South for the Winter/Provisioning/Extra Fuel

Ric <ric@...>
 

I would forget freeze dried. If its rough & no one feels like cooking,
open.a soup can. Some die hard sailors will try to sail even when
going 3 knots. I have a 4-5 knot rule & motorsail at times. 200 to 250
gals gives you enough. Keep a fuel log with engine & genset hours.
Bring lots of oil, antifreeze too

Ric Gottschalk
Bali Hai SN24

On Oct 5, 2009, at 5:10 PM, "Kent Robertson" <karkauai@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi again, folks,
It's actually looking like I'll have everything ready to go by Nov
for my trip out to Bermuda and S to the Caribbean. Thank you for all
your advice and help.
I've got a couple of other questions:
1. A couple of you have said I should take "plenty" of extra fuel.
Just how much is "plenty"? In looking at places to lash Gerry cans
on deck, I'm only seeing the spaces between the last three aft
staunchions that I could lash them without interfering with access
to either cleats or jib cars or downwind poles. That would be only
95 inches, or about ?4 cans on each side. That's about 40 gallons if
I don't tie some dinghy fuel there, too...enough to motor ~140nm. Is
that worth all the effort, or do you just carry a couple of cans as
emergency fuel and save them for coming into harbors/docks or
maneuvering in a storm situation?
2. Does anyone have a favorite freeze dried brand that they carry
for offshore passages? I'm thinking it'd be nice to have something
that I could just heat up some water and have a hot meal if it's too
rough to really cook under way. How much would you carry with you?
I was thinking enough to feed the crew a hot meal a day for half the
anticipated time of passage.

Thanks for you thoughts.
Kent
Kristy SM2000#243


Re: I: santorin internal skins

wolfgangklh
 

Hi Attilio, I'm the pre-owner of Kavanga, Santorin #69. I did this work in 2000 and it is right, that it was not as perfect as the original. The worst work was cleaning the skin and the walls of the foam-dust. I used a german glue or paste, but I don't know the name any more. It worked well because of the old fitting skin-parts. But there were some bubbles and you saw the rawness of the ceiling and walls. I sold the boat in 2002 to Willem, the dutch new owner, who is on Kavanga at the moment in greece I guess. Maybe ask him directly, how the work looks like now after another 7 years.

Good luck Wolfgang

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@...> wrote:

Hi everybody,

sadly nobody could answer to the call below, thus I insist.

Further, some time ago I saw the web site of a maintenance company maybe based in Southern France and specialized on Amel boats refitting. Unfortunately I did not record the site address.

Can somebody help me in this? I remember that they changed some iternal skins of Santorin. Maybe they can help us with the best solution.

Thanks a lot

Attilio&Maria Amel Santorin#84  "Sisila" asiviero1@...

 


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Da: Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@...>
A: Attilio Siviero su Gmail <asiviero1@...>
Cc: Maria Buttignol <bumari@...>
Inviato: Venerdì 18 settembre 2009, 9:58:40
Oggetto: santorin internal skins


Hi all Satorin owners,
my 1993 Santorin purchased in Le Lavandou is loosing her internal skin, at least for 80%.
It was forecasted, but no for such portion.
Amel Hyeres said that in France it could cost up to 15k€ to change all skins, better to do in Italy or Tunisia (?). Also they said that maybe they still have some rolls of that plastic skin in La Rochelle.
Now I have the boat in Cagliari, which is actually in Italy (even if not Tunisia, but very close:-)), and the local craftman said that it is not possible to recover the old skin, even after removal of the sponge, because the regluing will give a lot of imperfections (bubbles).
Anybody had such experience, and what lesson was lernt?
Thanks a lot
Attilio&Maria Santorin#84 "Sisila"
asiviero1@...

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I: santorin internal skins

Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@...>
 

Hi everybody,

sadly nobody could answer to the call below, thus I insist.

Further, some time ago I saw the web site of a maintenance company maybe based in Southern France and specialized on Amel boats refitting. Unfortunately I did not record the site address.

Can somebody help me in this? I remember that they changed some iternal skins of Santorin. Maybe they can help us with the best solution.

Thanks a lot

Attilio&Maria Amel Santorin#84  "Sisila" asiviero1@gmail.com

 


----- Messaggio inoltrato -----
Da: Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@yahoo.com>
A: Attilio Siviero su Gmail <asiviero1@gmail.com>
Cc: Maria Buttignol <bumari@tiscali.it>
Inviato: Venerdì 18 settembre 2009, 9:58:40
Oggetto: santorin internal skins


Hi all Satorin owners,
my 1993 Santorin purchased in Le Lavandou is loosing her internal skin, at least for 80%.
It was forecasted, but no for such portion.
Amel Hyeres said that in France it could cost up to 15k€ to change all skins, better to do in Italy or Tunisia (?). Also they said that maybe they still have some rolls of that plastic skin in La Rochelle.
Now I have the boat in Cagliari, which is actually in Italy (even if not Tunisia, but very close:-)), and the local craftman said that it is not possible to recover the old skin, even after removal of the sponge, because the regluing will give a lot of imperfections (bubbles).
Anybody had such experience, and what lesson was lernt?
Thanks a lot
Attilio&Maria Santorin#84 "Sisila"
asiviero1@gmail.com

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Re: Heading South for the Winter/Provisioning/Extra Fuel

karkauai
 

Hi again, folks,
It's actually looking like I'll have everything ready to go by Nov for my trip out to Bermuda and S to the Caribbean. Thank you for all your advice and help.
I've got a couple of other questions:
1. A couple of you have said I should take "plenty" of extra fuel. Just how much is "plenty"? In looking at places to lash Gerry cans on deck, I'm only seeing the spaces between the last three aft staunchions that I could lash them without interfering with access to either cleats or jib cars or downwind poles. That would be only 95 inches, or about ?4 cans on each side. That's about 40 gallons if I don't tie some dinghy fuel there, too...enough to motor ~140nm. Is that worth all the effort, or do you just carry a couple of cans as emergency fuel and save them for coming into harbors/docks or maneuvering in a storm situation?
2. Does anyone have a favorite freeze dried brand that they carry for offshore passages? I'm thinking it'd be nice to have something that I could just heat up some water and have a hot meal if it's too rough to really cook under way. How much would you carry with you? I was thinking enough to feed the crew a hot meal a day for half the anticipated time of passage.

Thanks for you thoughts.
Kent
Kristy SM2000#243


Re: [Amel] Leather wheel covers

karkauai
 

Hi, Pat,
Do you have any pics of the finished product? I'm looking at options and that looks like a great idea, but I'd like to see what it looks like on the Amel wheel. I've got the same problem with the fiberglass in the spokes splitting near the hub as described by Brian Troutman on Delos, SM2000 #303, and am trying to decide whether to replace the wheel or do something like you did. What was your turnaround time when you sent it to MN? Has anyone else addressed the cracks in the helm spokes?

Is the wheel removed by popping out the "H Amel" hub cover, or from the access port in the galley?

Multiple questions, sorry.
Thanks in advance,
Kent
Kristy SM2000 #243

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, sailw32@... wrote:
Skip, Last year I had my wheel coated with a vinyl that looks like leather should outlast leather and should provide protection from electrical shock.We are very happy with it. We did it in tan,but there is several colors to chose from.Color Wheelz is the name of the company.
http://www.colorwheelz.com/_ (http://www.colorwheelz.com/)
It cost about the same as the generic leather you can buy and install yourself. I also had the hub covered to match, however I had to make a hub out of a piece of aluminum for wood can not be dipped. Pat SM 123


Windlass Buttons

karkauai
 

Hi, all,
I've just received two new switches and four extra rubber covers for the buttons on top of my windlass. I tried unscrewing the outer rings on the switches, but they turn without backing out. I tried prying them up (gently), also without success. Is there a trick to getting them out or do I have to remove the casing from the back of the windlass?
Thanks,
Kent
Kristy SM 243


Solar Panels

linda.desalvo
 

We are in the process of investigating and installing solar panels on our 1998 SM #207. Is there any of you that have installed solar panels and how have they performed. We want to install them on our rails and hope to get 100 amps from them. If any of you have advise for us please email me at ldelsavo@bigplanet.com Thanks Jim DeSalvo


Re: fresh water accumulator

bowman122000 <no_reply@...>
 

Thanks for all the input. We have found the accumulator and will attempt to install it this weekend.
Thanks,
Cindy
SM#404

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Seidel" <mseidel@...> wrote:

My fresh water pump just died and the accumulator does not function well, The pump under the double manifold ( I have a second spare pump) can be only purchased in Europe at roughly 800-900 american dollars. Plus 300 for the accumulator. I called SHURflo and they sell a combination-pump, filter, accumulator for approximately 520 $ and West Marine sold it to me for 500 $. OEM # 5902-3202. Murray Seidel 919-470-1225 SM 349.
----- Original Message -----
From: bowman122000
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:54 PM
Subject: [Amel] fresh water accumulator


Has anybody replaced the fresh water accumulator? Ours is rusted out on the valve end. I would appreciate any information anyone has on this problem.

Thanks
Cindy
SM#404





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Re: [Amel] Re: fresh water accumulator

Dimitris \(ALMALIBRE\) <dkra@...>
 

I had the same problem and replaced the accumulator with a stainless steel
one cost 20 Euros. I had to put some air with a bicycle pump as well.



SM AlmaLIbre



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of drew_gaffney
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: fresh water accumulator





Hi Cindy,
We developed a small leak in late August, in the accumulator behind the
water heater. I was able to replace it with one made by the Swedish company
Johnson. It was a stock item at one of the boat supply stores in Auckland.
Cost was $156 NZD. The threads fit perfectly. You set the pressure by
pumping it with a bicycle pump, standard Schrader valve.
Best wishes,
Drew
Revelation SM390
Auckland, NZ

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , bowman122000 <no_reply@...>
wrote:

Has anybody replaced the fresh water accumulator? Ours is rusted out on
the valve end. I would appreciate any information anyone has on this
problem.

Thanks
Cindy
SM#404


Re: fresh water accumulator

drew_gaffney <drew.gaffney@...>
 

Hi Cindy,
We developed a small leak in late August, in the accumulator behind the water heater. I was able to replace it with one made by the Swedish company Johnson. It was a stock item at one of the boat supply stores in Auckland. Cost was $156 NZD. The threads fit perfectly. You set the pressure by pumping it with a bicycle pump, standard Schrader valve.
Best wishes,
Drew
Revelation SM390
Auckland, NZ

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, bowman122000 <no_reply@...> wrote:

Has anybody replaced the fresh water accumulator? Ours is rusted out on the valve end. I would appreciate any information anyone has on this problem.

Thanks
Cindy
SM#404


Re: [Amel] fresh water accumulator

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

We replaced the accumulator behind the hot water heater. We bought it from a water pump specialty store. They charged it to the pressure range of our water pump (ON @ 15# - OFF @40#). We bought one that is at least twice the size of the original...it fits and works great. I think it cost about $100 USD.

Best,

Bill
s/v Bebe, SM2, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I bought a complete fresh water pump when I bought the boat; I just
exchanged the accumulator tank.

I believe it is a standard pipe thread. If it rusts again I will buy a
plastic one that is larger from west marine and hook it up one way or
another.

Ps. there is also an accumulator tank behind the water heater.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bowman122000
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:54 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] fresh water accumulator





Has anybody replaced the fresh water accumulator? Ours is rusted out on the
valve end. I would appreciate any information anyone has on this problem.

Thanks
Cindy
SM#404





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Re: [Amel] fresh water accumulator

eric freedman
 

I bought a complete fresh water pump when I bought the boat; I just
exchanged the accumulator tank.

I believe it is a standard pipe thread. If it rusts again I will buy a
plastic one that is larger from west marine and hook it up one way or
another.

Ps. there is also an accumulator tank behind the water heater.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bowman122000
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:54 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] fresh water accumulator





Has anybody replaced the fresh water accumulator? Ours is rusted out on the
valve end. I would appreciate any information anyone has on this problem.

Thanks
Cindy
SM#404


fresh water accumulator

bowman122000 <no_reply@...>
 

Has anybody replaced the fresh water accumulator? Ours is rusted out on the valve end. I would appreciate any information anyone has on this problem.

Thanks
Cindy
SM#404


Re: Corian Countertop dimensions

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

32.4cm wide (beam) X 35.9cm long (bow to stern)

Center of 21mm hole is in the middle of the length and 4cm from edge

Bill

s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
Currently Bali

hole --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "drew_gaffney" <drew.gaffney@...> wrote:


We have the light colored Corian counter top with the Aurora pattern. The insert for the removable top on the forward, port galley storage cabinet has broken twice. We have found the replacement material but left the measurements on the boat in Auckland.
Can someone please send us the dimensions of the Corian piece AND the dimensions the hole it covers. We're going to get thicker material and route a lip. The 1/4" material is too fragile.
Thanks,
Drew and Lili
Revelation SM390
Westhaven Marina.


Corian Countertop dimensions

drew_gaffney <drew.gaffney@...>
 

We have the light colored Corian counter top with the Aurora pattern. The insert for the removable top on the forward, port galley storage cabinet has broken twice. We have found the replacement material but left the measurements on the boat in Auckland.
Can someone please send us the dimensions of the Corian piece AND the dimensions the hole it covers. We're going to get thicker material and route a lip. The 1/4" material is too fragile.
Thanks,
Drew and Lili
Revelation SM390
Westhaven Marina.


Re: [Amel] Annapolis Boat Show

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thank you Richard and Joan, if we get there we will take you up on your offer.
Danny and Yvonne SM299 ph 954 261 4772

--- On Tue, 29/9/09, richard03801 <richard03801@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: richard03801 <richard03801@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amel] Annapolis Boat Show
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009, 3:09 PM


 



Is there anyone out there going to the Annapolis Boat show this year. If you need a ride or a gathering spot look us up at Port Annapolis F dock. Challenge is the name of the boat. I will be working the SSCA booth from time to time. You can reach me at 6037675330.
Look forward to meeting any and all.
Richard and Joan SM 209
















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Re: [Amel] sonar

karkauai
 

Hi, Pat,
I don't have the Twinscope, just an EchoPilot forward-looking sonar.  It only reaches out about a boat length in shallow water, but was great to have in the Bahamas last Spring, and any time you're in unfamiliar shallow water.  The Twinscope looks even better.  I'd keep it.
Kent

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, sailw32 <sailw32@aol.com> wrote:


From: sailw32 <sailw32@aol.com>
Subject: [Amel] sonar
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 5:39 PM


 



When I bought my boat it came with a new Interphase color twinscope and all accessories still in the box.At first I thought I would install it, then I questioned the usefullness of it and if it was worth drilling a hole in the hull.I decided I would sell it and then last week I met a full time cruiser that swore by it, and thought I would be crazy to sell it. Does anyone have experience with this sonar unit and have an opinion if its worth installing or not ? Thanks,Pat SM123


Re: [Amel] sonar

Patrick McAneny
 

Richard, I did not notice the sonar unit when Diane and I were on your
boat. So if you also feel its worth installing, I will probably install it when
I haul the boat this fall . We will be anchored in front of the Academy
during the show, we'll try to catch up you guys. Thanks, Pat and Diane /
Shenanigans

In a message dated 9/28/2009 10:02:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
richard03801@yahoo.com writes:




Pat, we have now had one of those units on two boats. Including SM 209.
They both worked very well. I'd buy another is we ever to get a different
boat.
Richard and Joan on Challenge in Annapolis.

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, sailw32 <_sailw32@aol.sai_ (mailto:sailw32@aol.com) >
wrote:

From: sailw32 <_sailw32@aol.sai_ (mailto:sailw32@aol.com) >
Subject: [Amel] sonar
To: _amelyachtowners@amelyachtowname_
(mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com)
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 5:39 PM



When I bought my boat it came with a new Interphase color twinscope and
all accessories still in the box.At first I thought I would install it, then
I questioned the usefullness of it and if it was worth drilling a hole in
the hull.I decided I would sell it and then last week I met a full time
cruiser that swore by it, and thought I would be crazy to sell it. Does anyone
have experience with this sonar unit and have an opinion if its worth
installing or not ? Thanks,Pat SM123











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Annapolis Boat Show

richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Is there anyone out there going to the Annapolis Boat show this year. If you need a ride or a gathering spot look us up at Port Annapolis F dock. Challenge is the name of the boat. I will be working the SSCA booth from time to time. You can reach me at 6037675330.
Look forward to meeting any and all.
Richard and Joan SM 209