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Re: [Amel] sonar

Patrick McAneny
 

Richard, I did not notice the sonar unit when Diane and I were on your
boat. So if you also feel its worth installing, I will probably install it when
I haul the boat this fall . We will be anchored in front of the Academy
during the show, we'll try to catch up you guys. Thanks, Pat and Diane /
Shenanigans

In a message dated 9/28/2009 10:02:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
richard03801@yahoo.com writes:




Pat, we have now had one of those units on two boats. Including SM 209.
They both worked very well. I'd buy another is we ever to get a different
boat.
Richard and Joan on Challenge in Annapolis.

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, sailw32 <_sailw32@aol.sai_ (mailto:sailw32@aol.com) >
wrote:

From: sailw32 <_sailw32@aol.sai_ (mailto:sailw32@aol.com) >
Subject: [Amel] sonar
To: _amelyachtowners@amelyachtowname_
(mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com)
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 5:39 PM



When I bought my boat it came with a new Interphase color twinscope and
all accessories still in the box.At first I thought I would install it, then
I questioned the usefullness of it and if it was worth drilling a hole in
the hull.I decided I would sell it and then last week I met a full time
cruiser that swore by it, and thought I would be crazy to sell it. Does anyone
have experience with this sonar unit and have an opinion if its worth
installing or not ? Thanks,Pat SM123











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Annapolis Boat Show

richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Is there anyone out there going to the Annapolis Boat show this year. If you need a ride or a gathering spot look us up at Port Annapolis F dock. Challenge is the name of the boat. I will be working the SSCA booth from time to time. You can reach me at 6037675330.
Look forward to meeting any and all.
Richard and Joan SM 209


Re: [Amel] sonar

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Pat, we have now had one of those units on two boats.  Including SM 209.  They both worked very well.  I'd buy another is we ever to get a different boat.
Richard and Joan on Challenge in Annapolis.

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, sailw32 <sailw32@aol.com> wrote:

From: sailw32 <sailw32@aol.com>
Subject: [Amel] sonar
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 5:39 PM






 





When I bought my boat it came with a new Interphase color twinscope and all accessories still in the box.At first I thought I would install it, then I questioned the usefullness of it and if it was worth drilling a hole in the hull.I decided I would sell it and then last week I met a full time cruiser that swore by it, and thought I would be crazy to sell it. Does anyone have experience with this sonar unit and have an opinion if its worth installing or not ? Thanks,Pat SM123































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Re: [Amel] sonar

eric freedman
 

Pat,
I believe Ian and Judy have it on their Super Maramu Kimberlite Pen Azen.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sailw32
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:40 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] sonar





When I bought my boat it came with a new Interphase color twinscope and all
accessories still in the box.At first I thought I would install it, then I
questioned the usefullness of it and if it was worth drilling a hole in the
hull.I decided I would sell it and then last week I met a full time cruiser
that swore by it, and thought I would be crazy to sell it. Does anyone have
experience with this sonar unit and have an opinion if its worth installing
or not ? Thanks,Pat SM123


Re: [Amel] Hove to and enjoy.

eric freedman
 

Translation

We would have to prove this maneuver sometimes. It is called to heave in
Castilian (Spanish).

We have never done it!





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Paquin
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:48 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel] Hove to and enjoy.





Deberíamos probar esta maniobra alguna vez. Se llama capear en castellano.
Nunca lo hemos hecho!!!

From: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Hove to and enjoy.

Eric, I don't have a drawing of hoving to.. We simply back wind a shorten
head sail, move the sheet car forward as far as we can. Keep on the sheet
for chafe. We had none. Shorten the main and pull it flat on the center
line. Turn the wheel to windward and tie it off. The boat STOPS. The angle
to the wind is about 50-60 deg. The boat creates it's own slick to windward
as it drifts. The motion is to slowly move up and down the big seas (25-35
ft.) seas with an easy motion. When the bow comes up to the wind it just
falls off. Over two days of 45-60 kts we moved 75 miles. From time to time
we'd get hit with a wave from the wrong side other then that all was well.
We slept, ate, and rested for two days while the storm blow itself out.

--- On Sun, 9/27/09, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> e.net
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> > wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net>
e.net
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 12:47 AM

Richard ,

Could you send me a scan of that drawing>

Kimberlite@optonlin e.net

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Steve Constantine

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 3:46 PM

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Richard,

When we bought our boat, there was a hand drawn sketch in the manual showing

a ketch rig heave-to technique using only the main and mizzen (i.e. no

headsail at all, backwinded main on the traveller, and center line mizzen).

Have you tried this technique? If so, what is it about the conventional

sloop-style headsail/main technique you prefer?

Has anyone else compared the two techniques? We haven't practiced either, so

we're interested in the benefits of what works best.

Steve and Donna

Summer Love

SM 340

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Richard Piller <richard03801@ <mailto:richard0380 1%40yahoo. com>

yahoo.com>

To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>

yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:45:11 PM

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Kent, you are new at this. There are a lot of us that have done this trip

for years. I know the Bahama's look like an easy way, they are NOT>> Once

you get our of Norfolk the winds normally will take you to Bermuda anyway..

Take advantage of that go east.. When you depart from Bermuda head for 60

degs as you go south. DON't be tricked into a straight line course to St.

Martin.. you head a bit east and when the winds come on your port let them

carry you to St. Martin.. Bring lots of fuel cans as there will be wind or

NONE... Eric carries lots of fuel so do we. You'll need it.. Also be sure to

get your cook gas cans filled before to take off. USE Herb and be sure to

call in every day he HATES people that don't.. in fact he worries to death

if you don't.. Try hoving two from time to time before you need too. It

works. Back wind the shortened headsail, bring the main on center shorten it

up to about a #3 reef with a short head sail bring

the wheel to windward and tie off the wheel with the mizzen rolled up.

She'll sit there and all will be well. We have done it in several big

nor'easter and two tropical blows.. It works.. even 35 foot seas. If you

find yourself running before the wind we lay out a big 300 foot u shaped

warp of 3/4 line to slow the boat and keep her steady so the auto pilot

doesn't kill itself. You've got one of the be sea going boats in the world.

Don't panic and you'll do just fine.

Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209 in Annapolis.

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. . com> wrote:

From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:36 PM

Thanks a bunch John. That's what I needed to hear. All I have to do now is

get my SSB working for weather faxes and communications, and get my nerve up

enough to go to sea for 12 days. I'll probably have to get some professional

crew since none of my friends are up for that kind of trip yet. I think I'll

be OK with it if I have reliable weather info.

Where are you getting your shoulder worked on? I'm an anesthesiologist in

North Carolina. Ask for an interscalene block and catheter for postop pain

relief...it' ll make you pretty much pain free for 2-3 days after surgery.

Only other advice on shoulder surgery is to do your PT religiously no matter

what. Worst thing that can happen is to limit your movement enough that you

get a frozen shoulder.

Good luck with that.

My phone number is 828 234 6819 (cell). I may give you a call in a week or

two if I haven't made my mind up yet.

Thanks again,

Kent

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: "Amel YAHOO GROUP" <amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com>

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:15 PM

Kent, I've done that trip many times over the last 35 years. Don't even

think about going the gentlemens route. Its a real tough way to go. You will

spend a lot of time waiting for weather, like months, And motoring most of

the time into big seas. Bite the bullet,head to Bermuda to get your easting

in, and then head for St, Martin's. You'l be there in 12 days. If you go to

the Virgins first you will have a 80 mile bash to windward to get to St,

Martin's, Better to pick up the Virgins on the way back. Also stop in the

Bahamas on the way back, they are warm and beautiful in the springtime but

are terrible in the winter. You should also consider the Caribbean 1500.

They leave from Hampton Va, on the 2nd of Nov. Well organized with weather

routing etc. I wouldn't leave the Chesapeake before the first week in Nov.{

think hurricane.} Going to Savannah is good because they don't get

hurricanes, but you are going west when you want to go east. The Gentlemens

guide is a wonderful book, I have read it twice. He's a great writer. I'm

going to the States for a shoulder opperation this week so will have plenty

of time to talk while recovering. E-mail me your phone no. if you need any

more help.symoondog@ hotmail.com John "moon Dog" sm248

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

From: karkauai@yahoo. com

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:27:36 +0000

Subject: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Hi, all,

I'm making plans for the trip South from the Chesapeake to the Caribbean and

thought I'd ask for some advice. I've done a few 3-5 day offshore trips

across the Gulf and up the coast, but haven't tackled the trip South yet.

From what I've read a lot of people sail out to Bermuda, then South to avoid

the upwind beat from the Bahamas down the chain, but I still don't have my

SSB working (or have a good way to get weather that far offshore) I'm

working on that, but haven't had much luck yet. I have a week in Oct that I

could take her down to Savannah, then a month from mid Nov to mid Dec. I've

ordered the book "A Gentleman's Guide to Passages South", but wanted some

advice from folks who've been there and done that. Just how "bad" are the

two approaches to getting to the BVI from the E Coast?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Kent

"Kristy" SM 243

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sonar

Patrick McAneny
 

When I bought my boat it came with a new Interphase color twinscope and all accessories still in the box.At first I thought I would install it, then I questioned the usefullness of it and if it was worth drilling a hole in the hull.I decided I would sell it and then last week I met a full time cruiser that swore by it, and thought I would be crazy to sell it. Does anyone have experience with this sonar unit and have an opinion if its worth installing or not ? Thanks,Pat SM123


Re: [Amel] Hove to and enjoy.

Alejandro Paquin
 

Deberíamos probar esta maniobra alguna vez. Se llama capear en castellano.
Nunca lo hemos hecho!!!



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Hove to and enjoy.





Eric, I don't have a drawing of hoving to.. We simply back wind a shorten
head sail, move the sheet car forward as far as we can. Keep on the sheet
for chafe. We had none. Shorten the main and pull it flat on the center
line. Turn the wheel to windward and tie it off. The boat STOPS. The angle
to the wind is about 50-60 deg. The boat creates it's own slick to windward
as it drifts. The motion is to slowly move up and down the big seas (25-35
ft.) seas with an easy motion. When the bow comes up to the wind it just
falls off. Over two days of 45-60 kts we moved 75 miles. From time to time
we'd get hit with a wave from the wrong side other then that all was well.
We slept, ate, and rested for two days while the storm blow itself out.

--- On Sun, 9/27/09, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> > wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 12:47 AM



Richard ,

Could you send me a scan of that drawing>

Kimberlite@optonlin e.net

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Steve Constantine

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 3:46 PM

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Richard,

When we bought our boat, there was a hand drawn sketch in the manual showing

a ketch rig heave-to technique using only the main and mizzen (i.e. no

headsail at all, backwinded main on the traveller, and center line mizzen).

Have you tried this technique? If so, what is it about the conventional

sloop-style headsail/main technique you prefer?

Has anyone else compared the two techniques? We haven't practiced either, so

we're interested in the benefits of what works best.

Steve and Donna

Summer Love

SM 340

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Richard Piller <richard03801@ <mailto:richard0380 1%40yahoo. com>

yahoo.com>

To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>

yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:45:11 PM

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Kent, you are new at this. There are a lot of us that have done this trip

for years. I know the Bahama's look like an easy way, they are NOT>> Once

you get our of Norfolk the winds normally will take you to Bermuda anyway..

Take advantage of that go east.. When you depart from Bermuda head for 60

degs as you go south. DON't be tricked into a straight line course to St.

Martin.. you head a bit east and when the winds come on your port let them

carry you to St. Martin.. Bring lots of fuel cans as there will be wind or

NONE... Eric carries lots of fuel so do we. You'll need it.. Also be sure to

get your cook gas cans filled before to take off. USE Herb and be sure to

call in every day he HATES people that don't.. in fact he worries to death

if you don't.. Try hoving two from time to time before you need too. It

works. Back wind the shortened headsail, bring the main on center shorten it

up to about a #3 reef with a short head sail bring

the wheel to windward and tie off the wheel with the mizzen rolled up.

She'll sit there and all will be well. We have done it in several big

nor'easter and two tropical blows.. It works.. even 35 foot seas. If you

find yourself running before the wind we lay out a big 300 foot u shaped

warp of 3/4 line to slow the boat and keep her steady so the auto pilot

doesn't kill itself. You've got one of the be sea going boats in the world.

Don't panic and you'll do just fine.

Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209 in Annapolis.

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. . com> wrote:

From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:36 PM

Thanks a bunch John. That's what I needed to hear. All I have to do now is

get my SSB working for weather faxes and communications, and get my nerve up

enough to go to sea for 12 days. I'll probably have to get some professional

crew since none of my friends are up for that kind of trip yet. I think I'll

be OK with it if I have reliable weather info.

Where are you getting your shoulder worked on? I'm an anesthesiologist in

North Carolina. Ask for an interscalene block and catheter for postop pain

relief...it' ll make you pretty much pain free for 2-3 days after surgery.

Only other advice on shoulder surgery is to do your PT religiously no matter

what. Worst thing that can happen is to limit your movement enough that you

get a frozen shoulder.

Good luck with that.

My phone number is 828 234 6819 (cell). I may give you a call in a week or

two if I haven't made my mind up yet.

Thanks again,

Kent

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: "Amel YAHOO GROUP" <amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com>

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:15 PM

Kent, I've done that trip many times over the last 35 years. Don't even

think about going the gentlemens route. Its a real tough way to go. You will

spend a lot of time waiting for weather, like months, And motoring most of

the time into big seas. Bite the bullet,head to Bermuda to get your easting

in, and then head for St, Martin's. You'l be there in 12 days. If you go to

the Virgins first you will have a 80 mile bash to windward to get to St,

Martin's, Better to pick up the Virgins on the way back. Also stop in the

Bahamas on the way back, they are warm and beautiful in the springtime but

are terrible in the winter. You should also consider the Caribbean 1500.

They leave from Hampton Va, on the 2nd of Nov. Well organized with weather

routing etc. I wouldn't leave the Chesapeake before the first week in Nov.{

think hurricane.} Going to Savannah is good because they don't get

hurricanes, but you are going west when you want to go east. The Gentlemens

guide is a wonderful book, I have read it twice. He's a great writer. I'm

going to the States for a shoulder opperation this week so will have plenty

of time to talk while recovering. E-mail me your phone no. if you need any

more help.symoondog@ hotmail.com John "moon Dog" sm248

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

From: karkauai@yahoo. com

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:27:36 +0000

Subject: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Hi, all,

I'm making plans for the trip South from the Chesapeake to the Caribbean and

thought I'd ask for some advice. I've done a few 3-5 day offshore trips

across the Gulf and up the coast, but haven't tackled the trip South yet.

From what I've read a lot of people sail out to Bermuda, then South to avoid

the upwind beat from the Bahamas down the chain, but I still don't have my

SSB working (or have a good way to get weather that far offshore) I'm

working on that, but haven't had much luck yet. I have a week in Oct that I

could take her down to Savannah, then a month from mid Nov to mid Dec. I've

ordered the book "A Gentleman's Guide to Passages South", but wanted some

advice from folks who've been there and done that. Just how "bad" are the

two approaches to getting to the BVI from the E Coast?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Kent

"Kristy" SM 243

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

BingT brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it

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Hove to and enjoy.

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Eric, I don't have a drawing of hoving to.. We simply back wind a shorten head sail, move the sheet car forward as far as we can.  Keep on the sheet for chafe.  We had none.  Shorten the main and pull it flat on the center line. Turn the wheel to windward and tie it off.  The boat STOPS.  The angle to the wind is about 50-60 deg. The boat creates it's own slick to windward as it drifts.  The motion is to slowly move up and down the  big seas (25-35 ft.) seas with an easy motion.  When the bow comes up to the wind it just falls off.  Over two days of 45-60 kts we moved 75 miles.  From time to time we'd get hit with a wave from the wrong side other then that all was well.  We slept, ate, and rested for two days while the storm blow itself out.

--- On Sun, 9/27/09, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 12:47 AM






 





Richard ,



Could you send me a scan of that drawing>



Kimberlite@optonlin e.net



Fair Winds



Eric



Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



_____



From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Steve Constantine

Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 3:46 PM

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter



Richard,



When we bought our boat, there was a hand drawn sketch in the manual showing

a ketch rig heave-to technique using only the main and mizzen (i.e. no

headsail at all, backwinded main on the traveller, and center line mizzen).

Have you tried this technique? If so, what is it about the conventional

sloop-style headsail/main technique you prefer?



Has anyone else compared the two techniques? We haven't practiced either, so

we're interested in the benefits of what works best.



Steve and Donna

Summer Love

SM 340



____________ _________ _________ __

From: Richard Piller <richard03801@ <mailto:richard0380 1%40yahoo. com>

yahoo.com>

To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>

yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:45:11 PM

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter



Kent, you are new at this. There are a lot of us that have done this trip

for years. I know the Bahama's look like an easy way, they are NOT>> Once

you get our of Norfolk the winds normally will take you to Bermuda anyway..

Take advantage of that go east.. When you depart from Bermuda head for 60

degs as you go south. DON't be tricked into a straight line course to St.

Martin.. you head a bit east and when the winds come on your port let them

carry you to St. Martin.. Bring lots of fuel cans as there will be wind or

NONE... Eric carries lots of fuel so do we. You'll need it.. Also be sure to

get your cook gas cans filled before to take off. USE Herb and be sure to

call in every day he HATES people that don't.. in fact he worries to death

if you don't.. Try hoving two from time to time before you need too. It

works. Back wind the shortened headsail, bring the main on center shorten it

up to about a #3 reef with a short head sail bring

the wheel to windward and tie off the wheel with the mizzen rolled up.

She'll sit there and all will be well. We have done it in several big

nor'easter and two tropical blows.. It works.. even 35 foot seas. If you

find yourself running before the wind we lay out a big 300 foot u shaped

warp of 3/4 line to slow the boat and keep her steady so the auto pilot

doesn't kill itself. You've got one of the be sea going boats in the world.

Don't panic and you'll do just fine.

Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209 in Annapolis.



--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. . com> wrote:



From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:36 PM



Thanks a bunch John. That's what I needed to hear. All I have to do now is

get my SSB working for weather faxes and communications, and get my nerve up

enough to go to sea for 12 days. I'll probably have to get some professional

crew since none of my friends are up for that kind of trip yet. I think I'll

be OK with it if I have reliable weather info.



Where are you getting your shoulder worked on? I'm an anesthesiologist in

North Carolina. Ask for an interscalene block and catheter for postop pain

relief...it' ll make you pretty much pain free for 2-3 days after surgery.

Only other advice on shoulder surgery is to do your PT religiously no matter

what. Worst thing that can happen is to limit your movement enough that you

get a frozen shoulder.



Good luck with that.



My phone number is 828 234 6819 (cell). I may give you a call in a week or

two if I haven't made my mind up yet.



Thanks again,



Kent



--- On Tue, 9/8/09, john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com> wrote:



From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com>



Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter



To: "Amel YAHOO GROUP" <amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com>



Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:15 PM



Kent, I've done that trip many times over the last 35 years. Don't even

think about going the gentlemens route. Its a real tough way to go. You will

spend a lot of time waiting for weather, like months, And motoring most of

the time into big seas. Bite the bullet,head to Bermuda to get your easting

in, and then head for St, Martin's. You'l be there in 12 days. If you go to

the Virgins first you will have a 80 mile bash to windward to get to St,

Martin's, Better to pick up the Virgins on the way back. Also stop in the

Bahamas on the way back, they are warm and beautiful in the springtime but

are terrible in the winter. You should also consider the Caribbean 1500.

They leave from Hampton Va, on the 2nd of Nov. Well organized with weather

routing etc. I wouldn't leave the Chesapeake before the first week in Nov.{

think hurricane.} Going to Savannah is good because they don't get

hurricanes, but you are going west when you want to go east. The Gentlemens



guide is a wonderful book, I have read it twice. He's a great writer. I'm

going to the States for a shoulder opperation this week so will have plenty

of time to talk while recovering. E-mail me your phone no. if you need any

more help.symoondog@ hotmail.com John "moon Dog" sm248



To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com



From: karkauai@yahoo. com



Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:27:36 +0000



Subject: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter



Hi, all,



I'm making plans for the trip South from the Chesapeake to the Caribbean and

thought I'd ask for some advice. I've done a few 3-5 day offshore trips

across the Gulf and up the coast, but haven't tackled the trip South yet.

From what I've read a lot of people sail out to Bermuda, then South to avoid

the upwind beat from the Bahamas down the chain, but I still don't have my

SSB working (or have a good way to get weather that far offshore) I'm

working on that, but haven't had much luck yet. I have a week in Oct that I

could take her down to Savannah, then a month from mid Nov to mid Dec. I've

ordered the book "A Gentleman's Guide to Passages South", but wanted some

advice from folks who've been there and done that. Just how "bad" are the

two approaches to getting to the BVI from the E Coast?



Thanks in advance for your thoughts.



Kent



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Re: [Amel] Re: Telephone communications in the Caribbean

karkauai
 

Sounds even better, if it'll work using a wireless internet connection.  I guess some of you have purchased a wireless antenna booster and are pretty happy with the results.  That might be the best of all worlds.
Thanks,
Kent

--- On Sun, 9/27/09, eric meury <ericmeury@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: eric meury <ericmeury@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Telephone communications in the Caribbean
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 10:09 AM


 



kent and others.
 
i personally use skype to skype when talking to my friends in europe.  We either make a quick call and then hang up and switch to skype.  Most of the time on skype people set their status as being available.  some users have it set that if you call their skype number it goes to their cell phone.  So its still free for you but i do believe they get charged.   On occasion i have arranged predetermined call times.
 
There is one other option.  The voice feature of skype is basiclally a hosted voice over IP phone system.  Similiar to Vonage.  Vonage requres an actually physical phone.  I use another  VOIP system for my business phone.  I actually have a couple of phones two of which ring at the same time with the same number but are 60 miles apart.  I'm switching vendors  in febuary when my contract is up to www.broadvoice. com.  They have two world plans starting at 19 bucks a month that is unlimited calls no per min charge or long distance charges.
 
The key for me is that i can still use my phone devices but when i travel their software supports what is called a "soft phone" which is basically a program that functions like a phone that sits on your computer.  (Counterpath writes and sells advanced phones but has a free version).  You use a head set -  there service in this regard is just like skype.  Both numbers are exactly the same and the person calling me would use my local number and can reach me any where i plug the phone into.  I have physically taken my phone device pluged it into the hotel internet in new york and have received my calls from indiana.  Same number - no worries. 
 
Since i have to have my business phone any way and  the mirrored device operates as my "home phone" when i'm at my home office the fixed costs is something i'm already paying. 
 
For those that are on their boat full time this may or may not be a good option depending on how often you want to talk to people.  Others that have a "lan" line at your home you could clearly see the savings.
 
****  The only thing that i haven't tried is the softphone using a wireless connection.  I have used it with skype and its not that bad***  trying not to get technical but for voip over ip to sound great it needs to travel through a router that is configured and set up to keep the "packets" of data in order.  Sometimes the voice data is sent over jumbled which is what some people refer to as jitter.*****  I have used skype over wireless and without the prefereed router and it works pretty well - a few problems.    Its not a perfect connection but the person i was calling was on Mega Yacht (zoom zoom zoom) and was using their satalite internet so i suspect the problem was with them. 
 
I suppose if somebody wants to sign up for a free skype account we can try it and i can unplug my compter and have it pick up the internet with the wireless.
 

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin e.net> wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin e.net>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Telephone communications in the Caribbean
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 9:25 PM

 

However,

The caller can get a whopping phone bill for calling you.

When I call a phone out of the Usa from the states I use penny talk. For
example it costs me 2 cents a minute for phone to phone service.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtow ners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Miles Bidwell
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 9:28 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Telephone communications in the Caribbean

Hi Kent,

Skype is free if the other person is on a computer. If you use it to call a
landline phone it cost about 2 cents per minute. If you expect to receive
many calls, a local sim chip is convenient, and outside the US it does not
cost you anything to receive calls.

Miles

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Re: [Amel] communications in the Caribbean

karkauai
 

Thanks again, Eric,
I'm getting the picture, I think.  Will get the Razer and check out the costs on each island as I get there.
Kent

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:


From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: [Amel] communications in the Caribbean
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 10:50 PM


 



Kent,

The sim card is underneath the battery.

My minutes last at least 6 months in st martin.

You also do not have to buy a lot of time. You can buy recharge cards and
use them as you need the 10 dollars at a time.

One call can be worth 10 dollars and a sim chip on some islands.

One section of the road on the side of Tortola that faces St Johns they call
the phone box.

People park there and connect to USA carriers in St Johns from Tortola.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 11:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] communications in the Caribbean

Thanks, Eric. I'm thinking the only problem with this method is that On this
trip I'll only be in an one island nation for a few days except the BVI,
USVI, Bahamas, and St.Vincent/Grenadin es. Is there any SIM chip company that
works in all Caribbean islands? Do the prepaid minutes expire if not used in
a few months, or can you use them a year or more after purchase?
I'm looking at my girlfriend's Razr and don't see anyplace to insert a SIM
card. Is it something that has to be programmed into the phone?
Thanks again,
Kent

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtow ners%40yahoogrou ps.com>
yahoogroups. com, kimberlite <kimberlite@ ...> wrote:
Kent,
You can buy a Motorola Razr phone on EBay unlocked for 55 dollars with two
batteries new in box.
It says at&t or Cingular, but that whose
phone it was before it was unlocked.
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Re: [Amel] rpm problems

Patrick McAneny
 

Kent, Yes 2800 is my max rpm. under load, since thats well over normal
cruising speed I would hope or expect it sufficent to blow out carbon. Pat SM123


Re: New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

Barry <seagasm@...>
 

Excellent, thank you.
Best Regards
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Tradewinds III SM #171

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Re: [Amel] Re: Telephone communications in the Caribbean

eric meury <ericmeury@...>
 

kent and others.
 
i personally use skype to skype when talking to my friends in europe.  We either make a quick call and then hang up and switch to skype.  Most of the time on skype people set their status as being available.  some users have it set that if you call their skype number it goes to their cell phone.  So its still free for you but i do believe they get charged.   On occasion i have arranged predetermined call times.
 
There is one other option.  The voice feature of skype is basiclally a hosted voice over IP phone system.  Similiar to Vonage.  Vonage requres an actually physical phone.  I use another  VOIP system for my business phone.  I actually have a couple of phones two of which ring at the same time with the same number but are 60 miles apart.  I'm switching vendors  in febuary when my contract is up to www.broadvoice.com.  They have two world plans starting at 19 bucks a month that is unlimited calls no per min charge or long distance charges.
 
The key for me is that i can still use my phone devices but when i travel their software supports what is called a "soft phone" which is basically a program that functions like a phone that sits on your computer.  (Counterpath writes and sells advanced phones but has a free version).  You use a head set -  there service in this regard is just like skype.  Both numbers are exactly the same and the person calling me would use my local number and can reach me any where i plug the phone into.  I have physically taken my phone device pluged it into the hotel internet in new york and have received my calls from indiana.  Same number - no worries. 
 
Since i have to have my business phone any way and  the mirrored device operates as my "home phone" when i'm at my home office the fixed costs is something i'm already paying. 
 
For those that are on their boat full time this may or may not be a good option depending on how often you want to talk to people.  Others that have a "lan" line at your home you could clearly see the savings.
 
****  The only thing that i haven't tried is the softphone using a wireless connection.  I have used it with skype and its not that bad***  trying not to get technical but for voip over ip to sound great it needs to travel through a router that is configured and set up to keep the "packets" of data in order.  Sometimes the voice data is sent over jumbled which is what some people refer to as jitter.*****  I have used skype over wireless and without the prefereed router and it works pretty well - a few problems.    Its not a perfect connection but the person i was calling was on Mega Yacht (zoom zoom zoom) and was using their satalite internet so i suspect the problem was with them. 
 
I suppose if somebody wants to sign up for a free skype account we can try it and i can unplug my compter and have it pick up the internet with the wireless.

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:


From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Telephone communications in the Caribbean
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 9:25 PM


 



However,

The caller can get a whopping phone bill for calling you.

When I call a phone out of the Usa from the states I use penny talk. For
example it costs me 2 cents a minute for phone to phone service.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Miles Bidwell
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 9:28 AM
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Telephone communications in the Caribbean

Hi Kent,

Skype is free if the other person is on a computer. If you use it to call a
landline phone it cost about 2 cents per minute. If you expect to receive
many calls, a local sim chip is convenient, and outside the US it does not
cost you anything to receive calls.

Miles

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Re: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

eric freedman
 

Richard ,

Could you send me a scan of that drawing>

Kimberlite@optonline.net

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Constantine
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 3:46 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter





Richard,

When we bought our boat, there was a hand drawn sketch in the manual showing
a ketch rig heave-to technique using only the main and mizzen (i.e. no
headsail at all, backwinded main on the traveller, and center line mizzen).
Have you tried this technique? If so, what is it about the conventional
sloop-style headsail/main technique you prefer?

Has anyone else compared the two techniques? We haven't practiced either, so
we're interested in the benefits of what works best.

Steve and Donna
Summer Love
SM 340

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From: Richard Piller <richard03801@ <mailto:richard03801%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com>
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:45:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Kent, you are new at this. There are a lot of us that have done this trip
for years. I know the Bahama's look like an easy way, they are NOT>> Once
you get our of Norfolk the winds normally will take you to Bermuda anyway..
Take advantage of that go east.. When you depart from Bermuda head for 60
degs as you go south. DON't be tricked into a straight line course to St.
Martin.. you head a bit east and when the winds come on your port let them
carry you to St. Martin.. Bring lots of fuel cans as there will be wind or
NONE... Eric carries lots of fuel so do we. You'll need it.. Also be sure to
get your cook gas cans filled before to take off. USE Herb and be sure to
call in every day he HATES people that don't.. in fact he worries to death
if you don't.. Try hoving two from time to time before you need too. It
works. Back wind the shortened headsail, bring the main on center shorten it
up to about a #3 reef with a short head sail bring
the wheel to windward and tie off the wheel with the mizzen rolled up.
She'll sit there and all will be well. We have done it in several big
nor'easter and two tropical blows.. It works.. even 35 foot seas. If you
find yourself running before the wind we lay out a big 300 foot u shaped
warp of 3/4 line to slow the boat and keep her steady so the auto pilot
doesn't kill itself. You've got one of the be sea going boats in the world.
Don't panic and you'll do just fine.
Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209 in Annapolis.

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo.. com> wrote:

From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@yahoo. com>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:36 PM

Thanks a bunch John. That's what I needed to hear. All I have to do now is
get my SSB working for weather faxes and communications, and get my nerve up
enough to go to sea for 12 days. I'll probably have to get some professional
crew since none of my friends are up for that kind of trip yet. I think I'll
be OK with it if I have reliable weather info.

Where are you getting your shoulder worked on? I'm an anesthesiologist in
North Carolina. Ask for an interscalene block and catheter for postop pain
relief...it' ll make you pretty much pain free for 2-3 days after surgery.
Only other advice on shoulder surgery is to do your PT religiously no matter
what. Worst thing that can happen is to limit your movement enough that you
get a frozen shoulder.

Good luck with that.

My phone number is 828 234 6819 (cell). I may give you a call in a week or
two if I haven't made my mind up yet.

Thanks again,

Kent

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com> wrote:

From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail. com>

Subject: RE: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

To: "Amel YAHOO GROUP" <amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com>

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:15 PM

Kent, I've done that trip many times over the last 35 years. Don't even
think about going the gentlemens route. Its a real tough way to go. You will
spend a lot of time waiting for weather, like months, And motoring most of
the time into big seas. Bite the bullet,head to Bermuda to get your easting
in, and then head for St, Martin's. You'l be there in 12 days. If you go to
the Virgins first you will have a 80 mile bash to windward to get to St,
Martin's, Better to pick up the Virgins on the way back. Also stop in the
Bahamas on the way back, they are warm and beautiful in the springtime but
are terrible in the winter. You should also consider the Caribbean 1500.
They leave from Hampton Va, on the 2nd of Nov. Well organized with weather
routing etc. I wouldn't leave the Chesapeake before the first week in Nov.{
think hurricane.} Going to Savannah is good because they don't get
hurricanes, but you are going west when you want to go east. The Gentlemens

guide is a wonderful book, I have read it twice. He's a great writer. I'm
going to the States for a shoulder opperation this week so will have plenty
of time to talk while recovering. E-mail me your phone no. if you need any
more help.symoondog@ hotmail.com John "moon Dog" sm248

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

From: karkauai@yahoo. com

Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:27:36 +0000

Subject: [Amel] Heading South for the Winter

Hi, all,

I'm making plans for the trip South from the Chesapeake to the Caribbean and
thought I'd ask for some advice. I've done a few 3-5 day offshore trips
across the Gulf and up the coast, but haven't tackled the trip South yet.
From what I've read a lot of people sail out to Bermuda, then South to avoid
the upwind beat from the Bahamas down the chain, but I still don't have my
SSB working (or have a good way to get weather that far offshore) I'm
working on that, but haven't had much luck yet. I have a week in Oct that I
could take her down to Savannah, then a month from mid Nov to mid Dec. I've
ordered the book "A Gentleman's Guide to Passages South", but wanted some
advice from folks who've been there and done that. Just how "bad" are the
two approaches to getting to the BVI from the E Coast?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Kent

"Kristy" SM 243

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Re: [Amel] Re: Telephone communications in the Caribbean

eric freedman
 

However,

The caller can get a whopping phone bill for calling you.

When I call a phone out of the Usa from the states I use penny talk. For
example it costs me 2 cents a minute for phone to phone service.

Fair Winds





Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Miles Bidwell
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 9:28 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Telephone communications in the Caribbean





Hi Kent,

Skype is free if the other person is on a computer. If you use it to call a
landline phone it cost about 2 cents per minute. If you expect to receive
many calls, a local sim chip is convenient, and outside the US it does not
cost you anything to receive calls.

Miles


Re: [Amel] communications in the Caribbean

eric freedman
 

Kent,

The sim card is underneath the battery.

My minutes last at least 6 months in st martin.

You also do not have to buy a lot of time. You can buy recharge cards and
use them as you need the 10 dollars at a time.

One call can be worth 10 dollars and a sim chip on some islands.

One section of the road on the side of Tortola that faces St Johns they call
the phone box.

People park there and connect to USA carriers in St Johns from Tortola.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 11:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] communications in the Caribbean





Thanks, Eric. I'm thinking the only problem with this method is that On this
trip I'll only be in an one island nation for a few days except the BVI,
USVI, Bahamas, and St.Vincent/Grenadines. Is there any SIM chip company that
works in all Caribbean islands? Do the prepaid minutes expire if not used in
a few months, or can you use them a year or more after purchase?
I'm looking at my girlfriend's Razr and don't see anyplace to insert a SIM
card. Is it something that has to be programmed into the phone?
Thanks again,
Kent

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:
Kent,
You can buy a Motorola Razr phone on EBay unlocked for 55 dollars with two
batteries new in box.
It says at&t or Cingular, but that whose
phone it was before it was unlocked.
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


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Re: [Amel] Re: Telephone communications in the Caribbean

karkauai
 

Really?!!! No charge for receiving calls from the US while I'm in Martinique?  Wow, that's amazing!  I'm rapidly becoming sold on the local SIM.
Thanks, Miles,
Kent

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From: Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@attglobal.net>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Telephone communications in the Caribbean
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 9:27 AM


 



Hi Kent,

Skype is free if the other person is on a computer. If you use it to call a
landline phone it cost about 2 cents per minute. If you expect to receive
many calls, a local sim chip is convenient, and outside the US it does not
cost you anything to receive calls.

Miles

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communications in the Caribbean

karkauai
 

Thanks, Eric. I'm thinking the only problem with this method is that On this trip I'll only be in an one island nation for a few days except the BVI, USVI, Bahamas, and St.Vincent/Grenadines. Is there any SIM chip company that works in all Caribbean islands? Do the prepaid minutes expire if not used in a few months, or can you use them a year or more after purchase?
I'm looking at my girlfriend's Razr and don't see anyplace to insert a SIM card. Is it something that has to be programmed into the phone?
Thanks again,
Kent

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:
Kent,
You can buy a Motorola Razr phone on EBay unlocked for 55 dollars with two batteries new in box.
It says at&t or Cingular, but that whose
phone it was before it was unlocked.
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Re: Telephone communications in the Caribbean

karkauai
 

AHA! Thanks Steve, that saved me some frustration and time.
Kent

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Steve Constantine <svsummerlove@...> wrote:

Kent,

Verizon uses a wireless technology called CDMA. Just about every other wireless provider in North America and the Caribbean uses GSM. It's unlikely your Verizon phone will work in very many places outside the U.S. and Puerto Rico. My guess is you'll be better off buying a GSM phone specifically for the purpose.

Steve
Summer Love
SM340