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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Outhaul

ocean53@...
 

No problem Bob. As you know,when you 'are out there' and things go wrong, you
have to improvise if you don't have the part, and the adhesive I found worked
very well.

Incidentally I have found the same problem with the main sheet traveller at
times. The rope seems to shrink and stretch with the climate and if you tighten
the rope too much, it can be tough to move the traveller when the rope shrinks.
So I keep it on the slack side and stop it slipping with a little adhesive. It
may help me keep sailing a few years longer!

All the best

Ian

Quoting minaxi53 <no_reply@...>:

Thanks to all for thoughts on outhaul problem. Ian, as always you
seem to cook up an alternative to the norm, I will try that, thanx
Bob-





Re: Outhaul

minaxi53 <no_reply@...>
 

Thanks to all for thoughts on outhaul problem. Ian, as always you
seem to cook up an alternative to the norm, I will try that, thanx
Bob-


-- In amelyachtowners@..., ocean53@s... wrote:
Hi All,

a simple fix for a slipping outhaul rope that I have found works
well is to
paint the rope with a coat of contact adhesive. Only the part that
runs around
the capstan needs to be painted of course. Since doing this, I
have never had
the rope slip.

Just back in the UK for a few days to go and see the Amel 54 after
a Black Sea
crusie to Bulgaria & Romania.

Regards

Ian Shepherd 'Crusader' SM 414

-------Original Message-------

From: Krassopoulos Dimitris
Date: 09/23/05 07:44:34
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Outhaul

Dear All,

I had a similar problem in Greece. I bought a normal rope and it
was
extended by on meter ( 3 feet) after a few days of use. I ordered
from Amel
the original rope but it also extended slightly 15 cm after use
and I was
able to take the it in in order to tight the rope. The rope has
to be very
tight any slack will make the system useless.

Best Regards


Dimitris Krassopoulos




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Outhaul

ocean53@...
 

Hi All,

a simple fix for a slipping outhaul rope that I have found works well is to
paint the rope with a coat of contact adhesive. Only the part that runs around
the capstan needs to be painted of course. Since doing this, I have never had
the rope slip.

Just back in the UK for a few days to go and see the Amel 54 after a Black Sea
crusie to Bulgaria & Romania.

Regards

Ian Shepherd 'Crusader' SM 414

-------Original Message-------

From: Krassopoulos Dimitris
Date: 09/23/05 07:44:34
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Outhaul

Dear All,

I had a similar problem in Greece. I bought a normal rope and it was
extended by on meter ( 3 feet) after a few days of use. I ordered from Amel
the original rope but it also extended slightly 15 cm after use and I was
able to take the it in in order to tight the rope. The rope has to be very
tight any slack will make the system useless.

Best Regards


Dimitris Krassopoulos




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Email: dkra@... <mailto:dkra@...>
Web: www.almalibre.gr <http://www.almalibre.gr/>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Outhaul

Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
 

Dear All,

I had a similar problem in Greece. I bought a normal rope and it was
extended by on meter ( 3 feet) after a few days of use. I ordered from Amel
the original rope but it also extended slightly 15 cm after use and I was
able to take the it in in order to tight the rope. The rope has to be very
tight any slack will make the system useless.

Best Regards


Dimitris Krassopoulos




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From: eric [mailto:kimberlite@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:12 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Outhaul


John,

If you will look at your outhaul line, you will see it has been melted at
the ends. Kevlar does not melt. I originally thought mine was also Kevlar
and the jacket slipped over the core. I brought a piece to New England ropes
and they said it was closest to their endura braid. I have been using this
for over a season and it works fine.

Fair winds,

Eric





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[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of John and Anne Hollamby
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:32 AM
To: amelyachtowners
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Outhaul



The outhaul line has to be kevlar. It is not readily available in most
places and the prudent yachtie will carry some against the time that it is
needed. Anything less will stretch and slip.

Regards, John



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Outhaul

eric freedman
 

John,

If you will look at your outhaul line, you will see it has been melted at
the ends. Kevlar does not melt. I originally thought mine was also Kevlar
and the jacket slipped over the core. I brought a piece to New England ropes
and they said it was closest to their endura braid. I have been using this
for over a season and it works fine.

Fair winds,

Eric





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[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of John and Anne Hollamby
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:32 AM
To: amelyachtowners
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Outhaul



The outhaul line has to be kevlar. It is not readily available in most
places and the prudent yachtie will carry some against the time that it is
needed. Anything less will stretch and slip.

Regards, John



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Outhaul

Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
 

From experience one of the key factors is how you
attach the line to the car. I secure the outhaul end
(the end which is under tension when the sail is
out)with a knot - fisherman's bend is favourite
because it doesn't slip - and sew or whip the "loose"
end for extra security. I then take the weight on
that end so I have maximum slack to tie the other end.
You can't work a fisherman's bent tight enough so use
a round turn and two half hitches, pulling up as tight
as you can and whipping or sewing the end. I have
been amazed at how much a knot will give when load is
repeatedly applied and released.

Robin.



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The outhaul line has to be kevlar. It is not readily
available in most
places and the prudent yachtie will carry some against
the time that it is
needed. Anything less will stretch and slip.

Regards, John


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John and Anne Hollamby <hollamby@...>
 

The outhaul line has to be kevlar. It is not readily available in most
places and the prudent yachtie will carry some against the time that it is
needed. Anything less will stretch and slip.

Regards, John


Re: Amel 54 impressions

rjct2002
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Judy Rouse" <judyrouse@h...>
wrote:
Did you also notice that it is now cutter rigged?
Yes it is cutter-rigged. Tacking must be a fairly laborious exercise
as there is a baby stay too, so to tack one would have to furl and
unfurl both foresails. The Amel rep claimed this was easy - but I have
my doubts. I would have preferred a self-tacking staysail.

I guess most potential owners of the 54 will not be doing much upwind
sailing though...


Re: Amel 54 impressions

Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
 

Did you also notice that it is now cutter rigged? Now I'm wondering how
much trouble it would be to rig a solent stay on the SM2. Anyone know if
Amel offers a chainplate kit for such, or has anyone added one on their own?

Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of closereach
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:12 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 impressions


I noticed in the video on the Amel website that the new 54 doesn't
appear to have all the gear associated with the downwind pole system
installed. Have they abandoned that system in favor of something else?
Also, no passerelle is shown--is it integrated/stored inside a
lazzerette?
Richard Tate
SM#5 "Spice"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 impressions

eric freedman
 

I sailed her in April---WOW !!!

There are down wind poles now set at the base of the mast. (I believe they
are optional) you also get a Gennaker (optional?).

You can get an electric passerelle-but the fold down ladder and platform
seems great for most locations.

Fair winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376









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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:12 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel 54 impressions



I noticed in the video on the Amel website that the new 54 doesn't
appear to have all the gear associated with the downwind pole system
installed. Have they abandoned that system in favor of something else?
Also, no passerelle is shown--is it integrated/stored inside a
lazzerette?
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Re: Amel 54 impressions

Zanareva
 

I noticed in the video on the Amel website that the new 54 doesn't
appear to have all the gear associated with the downwind pole system
installed. Have they abandoned that system in favor of something else?
Also, no passerelle is shown--is it integrated/stored inside a
lazzerette?
Richard Tate
SM#5 "Spice"


Re: sail replacement

Zanareva
 

Mike,

Peter Grimm at SuperSailmakers in Ft. Lauderdale has built many Amel
sails, including a Hood vectran mainsail for our Super Maramu. He's at
800-541-7601 or go to www.supersailmaker.com.

Richard Tate
SM #5 "Spice"
Looking for approx. cost and suppliers for a new suit of sails for
SM 2000.

Mike


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] sail replacement

Randy Kilmon <drifter01us@...>
 

Hi Mike,
I got two quotes from sailmakers in Annaplois (North,
and Doyle). Both were similar in price -- slightly
over $7k for the three sails.
I also just read your e-mail re splitting the
difference between $390 and $425. It has merit and
I'll get back to you on it asap.
On a related subject, we're leaving tomorrow morning
for Baltimore so will have to communicate on our cell
(410) 375-8971
Thanks,
Randy

--- mike ondra <mondra@...> wrote:

Looking for approx. cost and suppliers for a new
suit of sails for SM 2000.

Mike


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 12 Volt Nav Bulbs

Bill Klein <sidecar1@...>
 

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From: eric
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] 12 Volt Nav Bulbs


Did you try west marine and look at the bulbs for AQUA signal?

Fair winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376





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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 12 Volt Nav Bulbs



Does anyone know where I can find replacement bulbs in the USA for my
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Looking for approx. cost and suppliers for a new suit of sails for SM 2000.

Mike


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 12 Volt Nav Bulbs

eric freedman
 

Did you try west marine and look at the bulbs for AQUA signal?

Fair winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376





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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 12 Volt Nav Bulbs



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Outhaul

eric freedman
 

I believe I used New England ropes "endura braid" all others slipped and
stretched.
fair winds
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:27 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Outhaul


I have recently replaced the line that runs on the main boom outhaul.
With a good stiff wind the car was running back toward the mast a few
inches every gust. It took a while to realize that my new line was
already wearing and slipping through the sheeve. I used 3/8" low
stretch braided line. Is this the correct size? Has anyone had similar
problems?
Regards
Bob
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12 Volt Nav Bulbs

silkair@...
 

Does anyone know where I can find replacement bulbs in the USA for my Goiot
running light fixtures on our Mango? They are the style with two little
"footballs" for contacts on the bottom. I do not see any numbers on them I
missed the recent discussion on this subject, please help.Michael P
SV Eshamy


Outhaul

minaxi53 <no_reply@...>
 

I have recently replaced the line that runs on the main boom outhaul.
With a good stiff wind the car was running back toward the mast a few
inches every gust. It took a while to realize that my new line was
already wearing and slipping through the sheeve. I used 3/8" low
stretch braided line. Is this the correct size? Has anyone had similar
problems?
Regards
Bob
Minaxi SM6


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Stained Sails

Randy Kilmon <drifter01us@...>
 

Hi Mike,
We got all the way home by 6:00 P.M. last night
(Suday), having left Annapolis by 6:45 A.M.
Neither of my computers seems to be working this
morning, so I'm in the public library dealing with 197
e-mails!
I have not yet opened yor message containing the
survey results. However, with respect to these two
questions:
1) "Drifter" is definitely a SM 2000. It is printed in
large letters on the either side of the aft part of
the hull.
I don't know when they eliminated the thru-hull
fittings for the heads.
2) I really think you need completely new sails for
the geneoa, main and mizzen. The old ones are
serviceable but -- as you observed -- they don't look
as good as they should.
Later today, I'll try to get some quotes on a new set.
I did call my friends in Ft. Lauderdale, who I thought
had bought sails from a loft in Hong Kong. However,
they said they had bought only a jenny and that was
through Doyle Sails in Ft. L. They thought the price
was slightly less than $2900. However, that was two
years ago. Anyhow, I want everything to be as
satisfactory as possible and I'm willing to make a
price concession for new sails.
More, as soon as I've read the survey rept.
Greatly enjoyed meeting your and Tom's wife; also,
Ted, who seems like an extremely superior young man.
Best,
Randy

--- mike ondra <mondra@...> wrote:

We are in the process of purchasing a 1999 SM, hull
#240. The seller
believes it to be an SM2000, yet it has through
hulls for each of the heads.
We were under the impression that the 2000 went to a
single through hull for
seawater intake. Does anyone know at which hull #
the shift to the 2000 was
made? What other changes were implemented between
the SM and the SM2000?
(Perhaps there is a website that identifies the
changes)

Also, the sails show a lot of mildew/mold staining.
Other boats I have
owned, with flaked sails when not it use, have not
had this problem at 10 or
15 years old. It would seem logical that tight
in-mast furling could retain
significantly more moisture than a flaked sail and
support more life forms.
Have others experienced similar problems on
relatively new sails with
in-mast furling? Interestingly the problem is just
as severe with the
genoa, which rolls up no differently than any other
furling jib I have owned
without experiencing the problem.

Mike


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