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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi David:

Regarding: " I am sorry to disagree - creating an I beam will ensure that you
CANT bend the shank ever again."

David, I am sorry to disagree with your statement, but take a look at the photo
of my anchor posted in the photo section. The shank on my anchor is a forged
(I presume) "I" beam construction and yet it bent about 30 degrees.

AB Marine in Jolly Harbor tells me that they have rendered it straight again by
cold working it in a press. I haven't seen it, and won't for another 4 weeks to
see what type of job they have done but I will post some "after" photos when
I get back aboard the boat.

Moral to the story, anything is possible

Regards, Gary


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Supermaramu

Georges Pellegrini <dji314@...>
 

Ola Jorge,
There is also a 97 model for sale in Fort Lauderdale. Rosebud.
you find it on
http://www.ablboats.com/details.php?id=79799

Georges Pellegrini

On Feb 23, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Jorge Zlatar wrote:

HI all
I'm new at this group and I'refer to this thread because I'm looking
for an Amel SMM 95 -97model to buy, knowing that here they are some
expert on Amels for all what I have read, I kindly ask for advise.
Does any one know of any one for sale in USA apart of the two 95
models they advertise in Yacht world .com in Fort Lauderdale?I will
fly from Chile on friday to inspect them.
Or anyone of your friends that have finish sailing their dreams wants
to sale their boat.
I appreciate any information on this matter
Thanks in advance
Jorge


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Amel Supermaramu

Jorge Zlatar <jorge.zlatar@...>
 

HI all
I'm new at this group and I'refer to this thread because I'm looking for an Amel SMM 95 -97model to buy, knowing that here they are some expert on Amels for all what I have read, I kindly ask for advise. Does any one know of any one for sale in USA apart of the two 95 models they advertise in Yacht world .com in Fort Lauderdale?I will fly from Chile on friday to inspect them.
Or anyone of your friends that have finish sailing their dreams wants to sale their boat.
I appreciate any information on this matter
Thanks in advance
Jorge



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Re: Amel Maramu For Sale

billklein48 <sidecar1@...>
 

It is almost spring and "Popeye" is still offered for sale. Any
interested parties please send an email to sidecar1@verizon.net. This
is a great time to take advantage of the favorable exchange rates if
you are an overseas buyer! Mechanically she is in very god condition.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "billklein48" <sidecar1@...>
wrote:

1981 Amel Maramu "Popeye" is for sale. She is mechanically very good
and fully equipped for cruising. She is located in the Hudson River
25
miles north of New York City. She is reasonably priced and if you
would
like to get more details and photos; e-mail us at sidecar1@...
The asking price is $149,000.


wooden interior

dr_hofschulte
 

Dear friends, is there anybody in our community who could advise us,
how to keep the wooden interior of our SM 2000/2004 in good condition?
Should particular attention be given to interior accessories in the
galley area? Your response is highly appreciated."
Regards, Hans Hofschulte s/v Johanna-Amalthea Amel SM Hull#436


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] wooden interior

svmalaika@...
 

OOPS! ....USE A CLEAN, SOFT CLOTH SLIGHTLY DAMPENED TO WIPE DOWN A VARNISHED
SURFACE. dO NOT USE ANY CLEANING OR WAXING PRODUCTS.

oUR MARAMU WAS 20 YEARS OLD WHEN WE SOLD IT AND THE WOODWORK LOOKED NEW. OUR
SM IS 7 YEARS OLD AND IN PERFECT CONDITION.

CHARLIE
SM 336



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] wooden interior

svmalaika@...
 

AMEL'S ADVICE, WHICH HAS WOEKED PERFECTLY FOR US ON OR MARAMU (16 YEARS) AND
SUPER MARAMU (7) YEARS IS TO USE A CLEAN SOFT CLOT



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Re: AIS made simple...I think?

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alan,

Our GPS and our B&G Hydra are connected to a multiplexer, but I am not
sure that it is necessary. What is necessary is multiple serail port
connections to your computer.

I believe that you will either need a NMEA multiplexer which allows
the connection of several NMEA inputs and has a single serial port
output, OR you need sufficient serial port inputs on your
computer...or some combination which will allow you to connect
multiple serial connections to your computer.

We happen to have both a NMEA multiplexer which is connected to the
GPS, Autohelm and Hydra and we also have a "4 serial port to USB"
converter which allows 4 serial connections and connects to 1 USB port
on the computer. It is made by Edgeport and is called an Edgeport/4.

By the way, our NMEA multiplexer (GPS, Hydra, Autohelm) is connected
to the Edgeport/4 via a serial connection. The AIS is also connected
to the Edgeport/4. Our SSB Pactor modem is also connected to the
Edgeport/4.

I believe if you have sufficient serial port connections that you
probably do not need a multiplexer.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 $387


Bill and Judy,
what did you do to handle both GPS and AIS connected to the
computer? I'm being told that I need a multiplexer or at least a USB hub

Alan
SV Charisma - Mango #62


Alan and Kristen Spence, SV Charisma
alan.r.spence - skype name
www.svcharisma.talkspot.com


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Re: AIS made simple...I think?

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

John,

I am not sure of the exact answer to your question. The AM/FM antenna
on BeBe, SM2 #387 is located on top of the main mast and appears
identical to the VHF antenna.

I did it this way using the AM/FM antenna wire because it seemed the
simplest way to go...I was not sure if it would work, but it works great.

I am sure the splitter will work fine also.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2 #387


It sounds like I do not need the splitter. I did not realize that the
unit could receive the information via the AM/FM radio input.

Is there something special about the AM/FM radio antenna on that model
of Amel, or can the AIS unit receive its signal from a standard AM/FM
antenna

Regards
John SM 394


Re: AIS made simple...I think?

svcharisma
 

Bill and Judy,
what did you do to handle both GPS and AIS connected to the computer? I'm being told that I need a multiplexer or at least a USB hub

Alan
SV Charisma - Mango #62


Alan and Kristen Spence, SV Charisma
alan.r.spence - skype name
www.svcharisma.talkspot.com


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Re: AIS made simple...I think?

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Bill,

I purchased the same unit at the Miami boat show. However, I also
purchased a VHF splitter so that I could connect the unit to my
existing VHF antenna.

It sounds like I do not need the splitter. I did not realize that the
unit could receive the information via the AM/FM radio input.

Is there something special about the AM/FM radio antenna on that model
of Amel, or can the AIS unit receive its signal from a standard AM/FM
antenna

Regards
John SM 394


Re: AIS made simple...I think?

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill forgot to mention another necessary component to make the AIS
work smoothly. We also added 2 GB RAM to the computer. We originally
had only 1 GB RAM and that was not sufficient and caused the AIS to
slow the charting software. Works great with the additional RAM.

Judy
S/V BeBe
SM2 #387


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

dlm48@...
 

I am sorry to disagree - creating an I beam will ensure that you CANT bend
the shank ever again. There are OBVIOUS issues in welding the SS shank but
provided this is done by a coded welder i can see no possible problems. For
sure NOT weakening the existing shank that is just uninformed information.
Having this work done out in the Caribbean or some other third world country yes
you MIGHT get problems but i truly see them as insignificant. Think about
it in a SS pressure vessel of which there are many the welds are the strongest
part of the job this is ONLY an anchor i cant be bothered working out
bending stresses ATM but i can assure you that creating an I beam will stop this
anchor shank being able to be bent with loads that the flukes can generate - if
you foul the anchor on some solid immovable object i would expect the anchor
to bend but maybe the chain or the swivel will be the weakest link (excuse
the pun) and explode before you bend the shank. Following the manufactures
advice is a good strategy especially if you dont have a technical or engineering
brain/mindset but here the shank is obviously under-engineered so it is
quite reasonable and i would suggest acceptable to modify it using good
engineering practices.

regards

David

In a message dated 21/02/2008 20:08:46 GMT Standard Time,
yahoogroups@svbebe.com writes:

Hello Gary and all,

Yes, we experienced a bent shaft on a stainless steel WASI anchor. We
had been at anchor for several hours in 15 - 20kts and 4 foot seas.
When we hauled the anchor, it came up as usual except for a 30 degree
bend in the shaft.

I contacted WASI and was told that bent shafts have been reported to
them but that the frequency was very slight (please see the WASI email
recommending the repair following).

I asked them about creating an I Beam by welding plates to the top and
bottom of the shaft. They responded that heating the stainless shaft
would weaken it. They suggested that I take the shaft to a auto body
shop which would have a cold press heavy enough to press the shaft to
straighten it. We did this in Tortola and all has been fine for
almost 2 years.

Regards,

Bill

<<<<<The following email is from WASI>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Following is my advise to straighten your bent anchor shaft:
I recommend that you take it to a body or machine shop in Road Town or
in St. Thomas which has a hydraulic box frame press. Usually these
devices are driven by hydraulic jacks of sizes 1 ton and larger.

Most important: By no means use -whoever is doing the straightening-
any heat in the process. The damage has been caused by cold forming
and it should be bend back by cold forming. Applying heat to Stainless
Steel will definitely change the molecular structure of the alloy,
with a number of negative effects and results.

Having said that, and looking at the considerable bend in the anchor
shaft, it will take a person with average to above average skills and
experience in cold bending to do the job - not to be undertaken by an
apprentice or amateur.

The critical part of the cold reshaping process is applying the force
at the correct points (fulcrum of arc bend) which requires a bit of
precision and of course the necessary experience..precision and of
with that in mind. It should take 2 people not much more than 15
minutes and will have absolutely NO negative effects on the structural
integrity of the anchor....provided it is done in the proper manner.
We do not recommend adding any reinforcement anywhere along the shaft.
Any considerable side force will bend the shaft any which way and the
reinforcement will then just move that bending point to another spot,
possibly compounding the complexity of a bend.

If you have any further questions or need advise please contact me
directly, even by phone.

Fair winds

Ari Grimm

WASI


AIS made simple...I think?

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Greetings,

We purchased a AIS receiver from Milltech Marine for $189. They are
located at http://www.milltechmarine.com/products.htm. They offer
several products. We chose the Smart Radio SR161 AIS Receiver.

We mounted the AIS receiver behind the nav station near the AM/FM
radio and connected it to 12 volts at the switched 12 volt wiring
block for the Hydra. The AIS is powered "on" when the 12 volt toggle
switch for the Hydra is turned on. To connect the AIS to an antenna,
we bought a BNC "T" connector and 2 screw-on BNC connectors from Radio
Shack. We connected the BNC "T" to the back of the AIS receiver, cut
the antenna wire going to the AM/FM radio and attached the screw-on
BNC connectors to each end of the cut antenna wire, then connected
those to the BNC "T" on the back of the AIS.

Then we ran the included serial cable to a "serial to USB" converter
which we attached to a USB port on our laptop. Just a few software
changes to Maxsea and we began picking up ships on both the Pacific
side and the Caribbean side of the Panama Canal.

It was certainly the best $200 investment we have made.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Hello Gary and all,

Yes, we experienced a bent shaft on a stainless steel WASI anchor. We
had been at anchor for several hours in 15 - 20kts and 4 foot seas.
When we hauled the anchor, it came up as usual except for a 30 degree
bend in the shaft.

I contacted WASI and was told that bent shafts have been reported to
them but that the frequency was very slight (please see the WASI email
recommending the repair following).

I asked them about creating an I Beam by welding plates to the top and
bottom of the shaft. They responded that heating the stainless shaft
would weaken it. They suggested that I take the shaft to a auto body
shop which would have a cold press heavy enough to press the shaft to
straighten it. We did this in Tortola and all has been fine for
almost 2 years.

Regards,

Bill

<<<<<The following email is from WASI>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Following is my advise to straighten your bent anchor shaft:
I recommend that you take it to a body or machine shop in Road Town or
in St. Thomas which has a hydraulic box frame press. Usually these
devices are driven by hydraulic jacks of sizes 1 ton and larger.

Most important: By no means use -whoever is doing the straightening-
any heat in the process. The damage has been caused by cold forming
and it should be bend back by cold forming. Applying heat to Stainless
Steel will definitely change the molecular structure of the alloy,
with a number of negative effects and results.

Having said that, and looking at the considerable bend in the anchor
shaft, it will take a person with average to above average skills and
experience in cold bending to do the job - not to be undertaken by an
apprentice or amateur.

The critical part of the cold reshaping process is applying the force
at the correct points (fulcrum of arc bend) which requires a bit of
precision and of course the necessary experience...choose the shop
with that in mind. It should take 2 people not much more than 15
minutes and will have absolutely NO negative effects on the structural
integrity of the anchor....provided it is done in the proper manner.
We do not recommend adding any reinforcement anywhere along the shaft.
Any considerable side force will bend the shaft any which way and the
reinforcement will then just move that bending point to another spot,
possibly compounding the complexity of a bend.

If you have any further questions or need advise please contact me
directly, even by phone.

Fair winds

Ari Grimm

WASI
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<end of email from WASI>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Valsat 03 GPS

n4796p
 

Before buying a new one, I would try to reset the GPS by pressing
ENTER and POWER together for a while when it is starting. The RESET
procedure should be written in the manual.

Armin
SY ASHIA / SM#357

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Krassopoulos Dimitris"
<dkra@...> wrote:







Buy a new one it is going to be much easier than anything else



Dimitris

S/YAlma Libre









From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tonic102004
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Valsat 03 GPS



Hello all

My Valsat 03 GPS is 10 years old. I left the boat for 3 months and
since then the Valsat is not giving the position anymore! Has anyone
experienced the same?
Is it possible to make a reset?

Thanks for any feedback
Paul
SM 227





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Valsat 03 GPS

Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
 

Buy a new one it is going to be much easier than anything else



Dimitris

S/YAlma Libre









From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tonic102004
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Valsat 03 GPS



Hello all

My Valsat 03 GPS is 10 years old. I left the boat for 3 months and
since then the Valsat is not giving the position anymore! Has anyone
experienced the same?
Is it possible to make a reset?

Thanks for any feedback
Paul
SM 227


Re: Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

Gary,



I replaced my CQR type with the WASI several years back and have loved the
WASI-except for the bending possibility. I now wonder how much of this
discussion has been about which type of anchor. In any case, if some of
this does involve the WASI, I do think that WASI would be a good source of
information. If I am the only one having the problem with the WASI, I will
get in touch with them when I have internet.



Miles



LADYBUG SM 216


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop Shaft bearing and Seals Replacement

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Bill and William:
Not to contradict what Bill has said but to offer some additional information, I was told
by Olivier Beaute at Amel that it really didn't matter how the seals are grouped (2 in and 1
out, or 1 in and 2 out etc). I have chosen to face 2 seals out and one seal in based on the
theory that I would rather have oil leaking out rather than water leaking in - worse
for the environment but protective of the machinery -. Hopefully the three will provide
redundancy enough to prevent leakage in either direction. I have had good luck with this
for several years now. I did at one time, with the original seal configuration, have water in
the oil. This is recognized by seeing a milky whitish emulsion in the oil reservoir in the
engine room. Since oil floats on water the oil level rises and the reservoir level goes up.
Now this is not one of my standard inspections in the engine room each day, note the oil
level and color in the reservoir.
Just something else to consider and confuse.

Regards, Gary Silver Amel SM2000 Hull # 335

-- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "" <leonorebt@...> wrote:

Hello,
Two seals face in toward the oil, that is the open end of the seal faces inward. The
third seal faces out to the sea. All should be packed with grease. When you remove the
old wear ring, brass, it could be reamed out slightly so it fits loosely over the schaft and
can be used to set the new seals so that they do not get bent on the installation process.
Hope this helps

Bill Rahmig SM72


----- Original Message -----
From: williammelbourne
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 2/20/2008 10:39:35 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop Shaft bearing and Seals Replacement


We are about to replace prop shaft bearing and the three seals that
come with it. Two of these seals must face one way and the third seal
must face in the opposite direction to keep oil in and water out. The
problem is I don't know the proper orientation for each of these three
seals. Can anyone help with this one?
Thanks,

William Melbourne
SMM 306, Third Wish




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop Shaft bearing and Seals Replacement

leonorebt@...
 

Hello,
Two seals face in toward the oil, that is the open end of the seal faces inward. The third seal faces out to the sea. All should be packed with grease. When you remove the old wear ring, brass, it could be reamed out slightly so it fits loosely over the schaft and can be used to set the new seals so that they do not get bent on the installation process.
Hope this helps

Bill Rahmig SM72

----- Original Message -----
From: williammelbourne
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 2/20/2008 10:39:35 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop Shaft bearing and Seals Replacement


We are about to replace prop shaft bearing and the three seals that
come with it. Two of these seals must face one way and the third seal
must face in the opposite direction to keep oil in and water out. The
problem is I don't know the proper orientation for each of these three
seals. Can anyone help with this one?
Thanks,

William Melbourne
SMM 306, Third Wish