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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] gas supplies (campingaz)

WILLIAM KLEIN <sidecar1@...>
 

I switched to propane tanks. This is easily accomplished with standard small propane tanks, but the valve guard must be sortened to fit into the small locker so a welder must be consulted. The propane line fittings are available at any camping store. --Billl Klein Maramu 91 "Popeye"

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From: sy melmar y
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:36 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] gas supplies (campingaz)


hello.
on our maramu we have a (quite) small gaslocker just outside the galley.
it has room for two campingaz (blue, 3kg) bottles. has anyone experiance
on avarage consumption (how long will a 3kg-bottle aprx last?) and where
we will get campingaz (around the world). what other ways are used to
get to cooking gas are used? i wouldn't like the idea too much to tie up
one of those huge bottles to our pushpit... we are "newcomers"/just
starting our circumnavigation - thanks for any ideas/hints.
marc, MELMAR Y, maramu #89, www.melmar.ch




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gas supplies (campingaz)

sy melmar y <newsgroup@...>
 

hello.
on our maramu we have a (quite) small gaslocker just outside the galley.
it has room for two campingaz (blue, 3kg) bottles. has anyone experiance
on avarage consumption (how long will a 3kg-bottle aprx last?) and where
we will get campingaz (around the world). what other ways are used to
get to cooking gas are used? i wouldn't like the idea too much to tie up
one of those huge bottles to our pushpit... we are "newcomers"/just
starting our circumnavigation - thanks for any ideas/hints.
marc, MELMAR Y, maramu #89, www.melmar.ch


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santorin Sloop - Experiences and facts?

amelforme
 

Hello Lars,

I am the AMEL associate for the Americas for nearly 25 years
and I have sailed on and sold several Santorins, ketch
mainly, a couple of sloops. The main mast is stepped to the
same spot, the boom is longer and the mast height is the
same. The sloop has a 30 square meter main and a 60 square
meter jib. The ketch has a 26 square meter main, 52 square
met jib and a 13 square meter mizzen. The ketch is much
more pleasant to sail and has better balance once off the
wind 50 º++. The ketch goes to weather the same angle as
the sloop, just not quite as quick as the mizzen is useless
under 50º apparent and just adds drag. Off the wind, the
ketch is much faster. The ketch offers more sail
combinations to match different wind and sea conditions.
The mizzen is a fine place to mount your radar, the mizzen
boom a fine thing to lift outboards and dive gear.

In my experience, the sloop is much more difficult to resell
and sell for at least 15% less than an equivalent ketch.

The Super Maramu was more than 2 times as popular as the
Santorin and is, truly much easier to sail (electric
winches) and twice as comfortable. If you choose to afford
one, it's a better (and more expensive) boat.

That said I would take either model of the Santorin over any
similar sized sailing yacht, but the ketch is a better boat.

Not that I ever have an opinion about anything, mind you…

Good luck with you AMEL search. Super Maramus priced in
Dollars are attractive values for Europeans these days, but
I don't wish to commercialize this very valued owners group
so contact me directly if I can be of service at
jfpottercyw@att.net

Best regards,
Joel F. Potter
AMEL 54, Hull # 14 - HOLLIS




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Re: Racing handicap info

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi PHRF certificate is on this site and can be downloaded.

Vito

asm 283


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali
Hai"
<hollamby@> wrote:

Has anyone got any information on handicaps fpr an SM 2000 as I
am
hoping to do a cruiser class race and the committee will think
of a
number if I cannot give any guidance?

Regards, John SM319
Try this web link http://www.almalibre.gr/racing.htm. It was
posted by
a guy who races in Greece. Its a bit hard to read, but if you e-
mail
him he my be able to send more info.

Regards
John


Santorin Sloop - Experiences and facts?

hrkaptajn <museum@...>
 

Hi All,

I'm currently considering buying a 1991 Amel Santorin sloop after
having looked for Maramu/Santorins for some time. Now, I'm wondering
about the sloop rig - is it just a ketch without the mizzen mast or is
the sloop ring taller or with a larger mainsail?

Does anyone have experiences with the sloop rig? Is it as effecient as
the ketch or better? Does the sloop-Santorin have the same balance in
the sailplan?

Or is it a handicapped ketch for people that do not want to fiddle
with a mizzen sail?

Any experiences, points of view or actual facts about the sloop rig
will be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,
Lars, Denmark


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kirk for Sale

RFC_SAIL <rfc_sail@...>
 

I will like to see the documentation. Thank you.

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From: "syhanaleism" <syhanaleism@yahoo.com>
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 17:01
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kirk for Sale


Sloop, 1978, No. 229, lying: Switzerland, many extras, one owner, please ask for the documentation.
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Kirk for Sale

syhanaleism <syhanaleism@...>
 

Sloop, 1978, No. 229, lying: Switzerland, many extras, one owner,
please ask for the documentation.


Re: Racing handicap info

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai"
<hollamby@...> wrote:

Has anyone got any information on handicaps fpr an SM 2000 as I am
hoping to do a cruiser class race and the committee will think of a
number if I cannot give any guidance?

Regards, John SM319
Try this web link http://www.almalibre.gr/racing.htm. It was posted by
a guy who races in Greece. Its a bit hard to read, but if you e-mail
him he my be able to send more info.

Regards
John


Re: Racing handicap info

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai"
<hollamby@...> wrote:

Has anyone got any information on handicaps fpr an SM 2000 as I am
hoping to do a cruiser class race and the committee will think of a
number if I cannot give any guidance?

Regards, John SM319
Try this web link http://www.almalibre.gr/racing.htm. It was posted by
a guy who races in Greece. Its a bit hard to read, but if you e-mail
him he my be able to send more info.

Regards
John


Racing handicap info

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

Has anyone got any information on handicaps fpr an SM 2000 as I am
hoping to do a cruiser class race and the committee will think of a
number if I cannot give any guidance?

Regards, John SM319


NAVIONIC CHARTS WANTED

L. CAMERON <solarconstruction@...>
 

SM#317, LADY DIVINA IS LOOKING FOR NAVIONIC CHARTS CHIPS THAT WILL FIT A FURUNO NAV NET SYSTEMS (gold system). ALL CHIPS CONSIDERED, BUT LOOKING SPECIFICALLY FOR #8 CARIBBEAN (xl-3 GOLD SYSTEM) THANKS FROM LADY DIVINA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: REPLACEMENT BULB FOR MIZZEN DECK LIGHT SM 2000

peter pappas <pjppappas@...>
 

no Murray I am not the same peter pappas, try one of the internet people search sites. like msn to find you friend . good luck peter j pappas

"Dr. Seidel" <mseidel@ec.rr.com> wrote: Is the Peter Pappas the same one who worked in Wilmington, N.C. and played
football for Bear Bryant. Then moved to Birmingham to work at the University
in I.D.?. Murray Seidel mseidel @ec.rr.com

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To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: REPLACEMENT BULB FOR MIZZEN DECK LIGHT
SM 2000


thank you

amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: --- In
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "pjppappas" <pjppappas@...> wrote:
The bulbs for my Foredeck Light and Cockpit Light are General Electric GE
4502 Lamps (28
vollt, 50 watt). There are also surely direct replacements (size,
wattage & voltage from other
manufacturers.

Regards, Gary Silver, Amel SM Hull # 335






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Found: Lost RPPM

Jay Jones <selector6501@...>
 

wastegate regulates pressure, be careful or you will
launch the head through the engine room hatch. Of
course you can water or propane inject a diesel and as
long as the head bolts hold up you can keep cranking
out horses but I worry about the 90 degree gear box
that is the amel drive.

--- agav8ter <agav8ter@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello all,

Been a while since I have been able to get on the
web. A while back
I was asking if everyone that had the Volvo TMD22
and the Amel
Autoprop had trouble getting their engines to rev up
to the published
max RPM in the manual.

Well I found my missing RPM, and it was not the prop
(although I
still think that the prop is overpitched for the
engine.)

I removed the turbo and of course it was plugged
solid with carbon
and "coke". I soaked the exhaust side in brake
fluid for three days
and then got a wrench on the intake side of the
turbine wheel and
started to work it back and forth. After about 30
minutes of this
the wheels where loose enoung to spin freely. I put
it all back
together and took WORLD CITIZEN out for a spin.
Results: before max
RPM 1800, after max 3,000. I feel that if I adjust
the wastegate
actuator I could get more RPM and power. Speed went
from about 6 kts
to a measured 8.6 kts. I am very pleased!! Of
course, now I will
start complaining about the increased fuel
consuption!!!
Downside .... after I put it together and deciding
to run it, I left
the heat shield off so I could better watch for
leaks. Then I took
her out to sea and ran her hard. Of course as I
came back to my
mooring at a sedate idle all was well until I went
to put her in
neutral. Oopps, no neutral, no reverse. The
shifting cable had
layed back across the hot side of the turbo and
melted itself. Oh
well at least I was going slow and did not hit
anyone or burn
myself!!!

Enjoy your Amel's,
Tony
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] keel painting

eric freedman
 

Hi Joel,
Thanks
Fair Winds,
Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel F. Potter
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] keel painting

Hi Eric,

Most any of the better paint/coating companies, such as
INTERLUX, make specific coatings for keels. As the SUPER
MARAMU has an IRON keel (not steel! Iron) the absolute most
important parts of any repair/refinishing is to be sure the
solvents in the new coatings don't "melt" the old coatings,
cut into the old coatings until there is solid adhesion of
the old coatings to the keel, and MOST IMPORTANT, apply the
solvent wash and the primer within minutes of
blasting/grinding the metal clean and bright. Not within an
hour as the directions say, minutes. The reason is iron
starts to oxidize in air immediately. Even some
micro-oxidation will make your re-coating job fail early. I
know from sad experience that this is true. Blast/grind,
solvent wash, coat. As quick as you can do it. Get
helpers.

By the way, if you get the current INTERLUX catalogue,
that's me on the cover in the orange shirt!

All the best,
Joel,
AMEL 54, Hull # 14 - "HOLLIS"





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] keel painting

amelforme
 

Hi Eric,

Most any of the better paint/coating companies, such as
INTERLUX, make specific coatings for keels. As the SUPER
MARAMU has an IRON keel (not steel! Iron) the absolute most
important parts of any repair/refinishing is to be sure the
solvents in the new coatings don't "melt" the old coatings,
cut into the old coatings until there is solid adhesion of
the old coatings to the keel, and MOST IMPORTANT, apply the
solvent wash and the primer within minutes of
blasting/grinding the metal clean and bright. Not within an
hour as the directions say, minutes. The reason is iron
starts to oxidize in air immediately. Even some
micro-oxidation will make your re-coating job fail early. I
know from sad experience that this is true. Blast/grind,
solvent wash, coat. As quick as you can do it. Get
helpers.

By the way, if you get the current INTERLUX catalogue,
that's me on the cover in the orange shirt!

All the best,
Joel,
AMEL 54, Hull # 14 - "HOLLIS"


USED SAILS WANTED

L. CAMERON <solarconstruction@...>
 

SM#317, LADY DIVINA IS LOOKING FOR USED FURLING MAIN & MIZZEN SAILS IN GOOD CONDITION. NOW LYING CARIBBEAN. ALSO LOOKING FOR USED SUPER MARAMU MAIN MAST WITH ELECTRIC FURLING MOTOR & ELECTRIC FURLING GENOA FURLER.
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Found: Missing RPM (pardon if repeat)

Ag Av8ter
 

Hello all,

Been a while since I have been able to get on the web. A while back
I was asking if everyone that had the Volvo TMD22 and the Amel
Autoprop had trouble getting their engines to rev up to the published
max RPM in the manual.

Well I found my missing RPM, and it was not the prop (although I
still think that the prop is overpitched for the engine.

I removed the turbo and of course it was plugged solid with carbon
and "coke". I soaked the exhaust side in brake fluid for three days
and then got a wrench on the intate side of the turbine wheel and
dtarted to work it back and forth. After about 30 minutes of this
the wheels where loose enoung to spin freely. I put it all back
together and took WORLD CITIZEN out for a spin. Results: before max
RPM 1800, after max 3,000. I feel that if I adjust the wastegate
actuator I could get more RPM and power. Speed went from about 6 kts
to a measured 8.6 kts. I am very pleased!! Of course, now I will
start complaining about the increased fuel consuption!!!
Downside .... after I put it together and decided to run it, I left
the heat shield off so I could better watch for leaks. Then I took
her out to sea and ran her hard. Of course as I came back to my
mooring at a sedate idle all was well until I went to put her in
neutral. Opps, not neutral, no reverse. The shifting cable had
layed back across the hot side of the turbo and melted itself. Oh
well at least I was going slow and did not hit anyone or burn
myself!!!

Enjoy your Amel's,
Tony
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266


Found: Lost RPPM

Ag Av8ter
 

Hello all,

Been a while since I have been able to get on the web. A while back
I was asking if everyone that had the Volvo TMD22 and the Amel
Autoprop had trouble getting their engines to rev up to the published
max RPM in the manual.

Well I found my missing RPM, and it was not the prop (although I
still think that the prop is overpitched for the engine.)

I removed the turbo and of course it was plugged solid with carbon
and "coke". I soaked the exhaust side in brake fluid for three days
and then got a wrench on the intake side of the turbine wheel and
started to work it back and forth. After about 30 minutes of this
the wheels where loose enoung to spin freely. I put it all back
together and took WORLD CITIZEN out for a spin. Results: before max
RPM 1800, after max 3,000. I feel that if I adjust the wastegate
actuator I could get more RPM and power. Speed went from about 6 kts
to a measured 8.6 kts. I am very pleased!! Of course, now I will
start complaining about the increased fuel consuption!!!
Downside .... after I put it together and deciding to run it, I left
the heat shield off so I could better watch for leaks. Then I took
her out to sea and ran her hard. Of course as I came back to my
mooring at a sedate idle all was well until I went to put her in
neutral. Oopps, no neutral, no reverse. The shifting cable had
layed back across the hot side of the turbo and melted itself. Oh
well at least I was going slow and did not hit anyone or burn
myself!!!

Enjoy your Amel's,
Tony
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Question and advise

eric freedman
 

Vito,
Vito,
I am glad you found it.

When I leave the boat for a few weeks I do the following:

I turn of the main seacock and remove the cover from the sea strainer.

I then put a fresh water hose in the sea strainer and run the following
gear.

Main engine
Generator
Both heads
Air conditioner
Anchor wash

This leaves fresh water in all equipment.
I am sure this adds longevity to the equipment and reduces the smell in the
heads.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Banks
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 11:36 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Question and advise

Hi guys

Have you tried flushing the WC with fresh water from the shower,
after turning off the salt water intake of course? It works a treat
for me.

Regards, Roger, Mango 28

On 10/04/2006, at 1:22 PM, asm283 wrote:

Hi Eric

Thanks for the info. I found the breaker, it was driving me nuts. We
are still in New Zealand will start to look for a weather window in
the next few weeks to make our way to Fiji.

If you leave your boat for a while what works well is putting some
blue head liquid in the water manifold and flushig each toilet
untill blue comes out. I have left the boat for months like this
with no smell.

Vito

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Vito,
The breaker for my inflator is over the mid ships bunk beneath the
starboard
electric winch.

I found that the head hoses get smelly if you do not flush the
toilets a lot
and leave nothing but salt water in them.

Where are you now?
Fair Winds,
Eric


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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:01 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Question and advise

Hello

The 24V plug for the dingy inflator in the lazarette is not
getting
any power. I know there must be a breaker that has tripped.
However, I
cannot find where this is. can anyone help?

I you have not had the pleasure of cleaning/replacing the outlet
hose
of the head. Here is a little tip to make it easier.

When you remove the hose it is best to disconnect the head end
first,
let it drain. Then if you look at were the hose connects on to the
holding tank you will see the smaller head outlet hose going into
a
larger hose that is attached to the holding tank. It is much
easier
and neater if you disconnect the larger hose where it is attached
to
the holding tank and pull the hose out from the top. I have done
it
both ways and this is much easier.

Thanks

Vito

ASM283

Wanderer

Vito







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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Question and advise

Roger Banks <roger.banks@...>
 

Hi guys

Have you tried flushing the WC with fresh water from the shower,
after turning off the salt water intake of course? It works a treat
for me.

Regards, Roger, Mango 28

On 10/04/2006, at 1:22 PM, asm283 wrote:

Hi Eric

Thanks for the info. I found the breaker, it was driving me nuts. We
are still in New Zealand will start to look for a weather window in
the next few weeks to make our way to Fiji.

If you leave your boat for a while what works well is putting some
blue head liquid in the water manifold and flushig each toilet
untill blue comes out. I have left the boat for months like this
with no smell.

Vito

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Vito,
The breaker for my inflator is over the mid ships bunk beneath the
starboard
electric winch.

I found that the head hoses get smelly if you do not flush the
toilets a lot
and leave nothing but salt water in them.

Where are you now?
Fair Winds,
Eric


-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:01 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Question and advise

Hello

The 24V plug for the dingy inflator in the lazarette is not
getting
any power. I know there must be a breaker that has tripped.
However, I
cannot find where this is. can anyone help?

I you have not had the pleasure of cleaning/replacing the outlet
hose
of the head. Here is a little tip to make it easier.

When you remove the hose it is best to disconnect the head end
first,
let it drain. Then if you look at were the hose connects on to the
holding tank you will see the smaller head outlet hose going into
a
larger hose that is attached to the holding tank. It is much
easier
and neater if you disconnect the larger hose where it is attached
to
the holding tank and pull the hose out from the top. I have done
it
both ways and this is much easier.

Thanks

Vito

ASM283

Wanderer

Vito







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