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Re: SM2000 Bow thruster service
Mike,
Let me try to help you with your questions. I did not design the bow thruster, nor am I an engineer. I certainly cannot suggest intended strategies, but I have some suggestions for you. I have used and serviced it successfully and may be of some help. 1) The penetration through the hull is above the water line when at rest in calm water. 2 a) The 2 closed cell foam rings on the shaft outside the hull are compressed against the hull opening when the bow thruster is fully up and the safety pin is in place…It is important to pull on the wire bringing the thruster high enough to insert the pin each time you go sailing (you will also have to turn OFF the power switch which is in the path of inserting the pin). 2b) On the Bow Thruster shaft there are 2 closed cell foam rings outside the hull which are compressed when the thruster is in full up and the pin is inserted…my experience is if you do not insert the pin, you will get a small amount of water in the forward bilge when sailing. There is one closed cell foam ring inside the hull compressed when the thruster motor is in the full down position. 2c) There is an oil seal just behind the propeller and this oil seal probably needs replacing on your boat. 3a). The 2 foam rings outside the hull should be adhered to the foot of the shaft and the gear box and ride up and down with the shaft. 3b) If the surface of the bow thruster well is oily it most likely is because the seal behind the propeller needs replacing. A bad seal will cause water to penetrate and water penetrating the thruster will cause the oil to rise and possibly overflow when running. 3c) You should have fare access to this area to clean when the thruster is removed. 4) I am not sure about the 2 grooves in the sleeved penetration in the hull. 5) There should be one closed cell foam ring inside the hull compressed when the thruster motor is in the full down position. 6) There is an oil seal behind the propeller. It keeps sea water out and also keeps oil inside the thruster. This oil seal is pressed into the gear housing, and should be replaced when you service the unit. The flat side of the seal faces the sea water and propeller. You may want to use a little RTV (room temperature vulcanizing) silicone sealant to help ensure that it stays in place and seals completely. I suggest that when draining the thruster that you capture the oil in a transparent container to see if there is any water in it. If there is, change the seal behind the propeller. 7) My guess is that the water you had in your forward bilges was caused by not pulling the wire and inserting the pin while under sail. 8) I assume that you filled the thruster to the same level that it had when you removed it. If so, it was overfilled as it should definitely not take that much oil. Best, Bill & Judy Rouse s/v BeBe anchored at Bequia, The Genadines SM2 #387 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Ondra" <mondra@...> wrote:
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SM2000 Bow thruster service
Mike Ondra <mondra@...>
We just completed servicing Aletes' bow thruster on the hard,
postings from this BB in our greasy hands. Yet upon completion we have concerns about the water tight integrity of the bow thruster. 1. Fundamentally, is the penetration through the hull above or below the water line when at rest in calm water? It appeared to us that it was slightly below the water line, which conflicts with the concept of dropping out the propeller/shaft assembly while in the water and raises images of the boat with water where it should not be. 2. What is the seal strategy of the assembly? We found only the 2 closed cell foam rings on the shaft outside the hull that are compressed against the hull opening when the bow thruster is fully up. Other postings refer to up to 5 seals: 1 just behind the propeller, the 2 we have around the shaft just outside the hull, 1 at the hull opening, and 1 foam ring above the opening that would be compressed when the truster motor is in the full down position. 3. The 2 foam rings outside the hull were adhered to the foot of the shaft and the gear box and rode up and down with the shaft. It would seem that if they were adhered to the bottom of the opening in the hull they would seal to the shaft as well as be compressed when the assembly was full up. However the friction of the shaft moving up and down could wear the seal and/or pull the rings away from the adhesive. Also that surface up in the bow thruster well is oily (difficult to adhere to) and not very accessible for cleaning up adhesive in preparation for a new seal. 4. The sleeved penetration in the hull, about 2" tall, had 2 grooves in it. Is this or are there other provisions for a seal at this location that would not move with the assembly and seal to the shaft? 5. We did not find any seals on the top side of the hull. Should there be a foam ring on top to seal when the motor is down? 6. Is there a seal required behind the propeller and what does it look like and do? The propeller shaft has a seal pressed into the gear housing, and should that be replacable? 7. Again, what is the total seal strategy? Although we have had only a very minor amount of water in our forward bilges, what we found seemed to be profoundly not leak proof. 8. Our shaft assembly took a full quart of 90 wt oil instead of the .3 liter described in the manual. Are there different models that require different amounts of oil and may have different seal strategies? As this is a bi-annual service usually done out of the water, it would be nice to be very clear about what is required to maintain the water tight integrity of the boat! Mike Ondra Aletes SM200#240
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Darn Batteries - Thank you
roger_h_banks <roger.banks@...>
Hi Eric
I went to check this on my boat and found I couldn't understand which AC setting you mean to test. Can you please clarify? Roger, Mango 28 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@...> wrote: There was an article in a recent Cruising World on how AC ripple can cause your batteries to discharge even when the charger is going full bore. The article said to test for this with a multimeter on the AC setting, putting the black probe on the negative, the red on the positive, and if it shows more that .2 VAC it will cause to batteries to discharge while cooking them at the same time. Cruising World March 2007 page 98.
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Re: Video of Amel 54 featuring Joel Potter
edmund_steele
To all readers,
I accidentally sent a personal e-mail to this site. This was unintended. Ed Steele SV DoodleBug SM#331
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Video of Amel 54 featuring Joel Potter
Hi,
We found a very good video of the Amel 54 featuring Joel. We enjoyed it very much and thought you might like to see it. Amel Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsFZURpfdYQ Best, Bill & Judy Rouse s/v BeBe SM2 #387
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Supermaramu year 2001
John Blyth
If anyone is interested in an immaculate SuperMaramu 2001 please
contact me. Unexpectedly and heartbreakingly due to ill health we are having to sell our yacht. She is virtually as new with lots of extras including new Amel watermaker 160litre per hour 220 volt, SSB, spare sails 700 + hours on yanmar engine. She is lying East Med VAT paid. Sensibly priced for a quick sale. E mail Villasail@yahoo.co.uk contact John Blyth
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Cold Weather Cockpit Enclosure for SM2
We have the cold weather cockpit enclosure from Amel. Unfortunately
we are missing the stainless steel bars or tubes that support the rear of the enclosure. These bars or tubes run from the port and starboard mizzen shrouds to behind the mizzen mast. We believe that we could have them fabricated if we had specifications and/or photos. We would appreciate either a posting of photos and/or specs on this website, or emailing the information to brouse"at"gmail.com, substituting the @ symbol for "at" Best, Bill & Judy Rouse s/v BeBe - SM2 #387
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Story on Super Maramu in Portobelo Panama
Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
He must have stolen the boat. He couldn't be a real AMEL owner. Could he?
Robin Santorin "Belouga" edmund_steele <edmundsteele@earthlink.net> wrote: Well, I noticed immediately that his outhauls are too slack. Ed SM "DoodleBug" --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "closereach" <closereach@...> wrote: post:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Story on Super Maramu in Portobelo Panama
Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
He must have stolen the boat. He couldn't be a real AMEL owner. Could he?
Robin Santorin "Belouga" edmund_steele <edmundsteele@earthlink.net> wrote: Well, I noticed immediately that his outhauls are too slack. Ed SM "DoodleBug" --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "closereach" <closereach@...> wrote: post:
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Eastern Med and Suez transit
John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
Hi Ed,
No idea where you are but we are in Malta. We have an excellent log produced by Kamu 2, a 12.9mtr yacht giving important info on charges, reception etc. in Northern Cyprus,Syria,Lebanon, Israel and Egypt, transiting the canal etc.Not sure whether to send it to you at your Email address or put it in the Files section. Suffice to say that we are encouraged to go that way for our summer cruise. If you want it sent to you please let us know your address as I am not sure whether the bit shown on your place in the members section would work. Alternatively if others also want the info I will try to post it in the files section. It is two years worth (2005/6) and each one is covers seven or eight pages. My full address is in the members section. Let me know, Best wishes John SM319
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Docking Plan for Super Maramu
Ag Av8ter
Hello all,
Last time we hauled out I must have left the docking diagram with the travel lift operator. We are in Antigua and are due to haul out at Jolly Harbour this coming Saturday. Our boat is SM#266 and has the forward looking sonar. Does anyone have the docking diagram they can send to me as a PDF file?? I would sure appreciate it. Also, Has anyone not used the slings and used the liftinf eyes on the chainplates? Please send the PDF file to: agav8ter@yahoo.com Thank you in advance for your help, Tony Gray WORLD CITIZEN SM #266
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Suez Canal transit
edmund_steele
We are headed for a canal transit in early August, 2007. Does anyone
who has already transited the Suez canal, have any information on the measurements of and fees for a Super Maramu? Ed SM #331 DoodleBug
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchase 1996 SM
peter pappas <pjppappas@...>
you can search this site for faux teak, i believe the best option is to repaint. PJP
David Elliott <elliottyachts@yahoo.com.sg> wrote: Thanks Peter I will check that out. Any internal upgrading required? Also on thing I'm considering is either renewing the decks or laying real teak, have you heard of anybody this? David peter pappas <pjppappas@yahoo.com> wrote: The switches on my windlass failed and I replaced them with deck mounted swithches which I like a lot better. Peter Pappas "Callisto" #369, Vallarta, Mexico. David Elliott <elliottyachts@yahoo.com.sg> wrote: I'm currently looking at purchasing a 1996 SM and would like to hear from owners on what to lookout for and what will most likley, or should, be updated on this boat. David --------------------------------- Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Movies - Search movie info and celeb profiles and photos. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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MANGO RIGGING
George Volos
Dear friends,
Does anyone have a rigging diagram for a Mango they would be willing to share? Thank you
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchase 1996 SM
elliottyachts <elliottyachts@...>
Thanks Peter I will check that out.
Any internal upgrading required? Also one thing I'm considering is either renewing the decks or laying real teak, have you heard of anybody this? David --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, peter pappas <pjppappas@...> wrote: mounted swithches which I like a lot better. Peter Pappas "Callisto" #369, Vallarta, Mexico. looking at purchasing a 1996 SM and would like to hear from owners on what to lookout for and what will most likley, or should, be updated on this boat.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchase 1996 SM
David Elliott <elliottyachts@...>
Thanks Peter I will check that out.
Any internal upgrading required? Also on thing I'm considering is either renewing the decks or laying real teak, have you heard of anybody this? David peter pappas <pjppappas@yahoo.com> wrote: The switches on my windlass failed and I replaced them with deck mounted swithches which I like a lot better. Peter Pappas "Callisto" #369, Vallarta, Mexico. David Elliott <elliottyachts@yahoo.com.sg> wrote: I'm currently looking at purchasing a 1996 SM and would like to hear from owners on what to lookout for and what will most likley, or should, be updated on this boat. David --------------------------------- Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Movies - Search movie info and celeb profiles and photos.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchase 1996 SM
peter pappas <pjppappas@...>
The switches on my windlass failed and I replaced them with deck mounted swithches which I like a lot better. Peter Pappas "Callisto" #369, Vallarta, Mexico.
David Elliott <elliottyachts@yahoo.com.sg> wrote: I'm currently looking at purchasing a 1996 SM and would like to hear from owners on what to lookout for and what will most likley, or should, be updated on this boat. David --------------------------------- Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you know. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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Re: Story on Super Maramu in Portobelo Panama
edmund_steele
Well, I noticed immediately that his outhauls are too slack.
Ed SM "DoodleBug" --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "closereach" <closereach@...> wrote: post:
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Story on Super Maramu in Portobelo Panama
I don't know if this fact or fiction but it is an interesting web post:
http://sv-timemachine.net/?p=234 Richard SM "Spice"
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Re: Pressure sensitive velcro
airbus4russ <russ.roberts.va@...>
John,
Have you considered, or has anyone else tried, the 3M brand of "Command Adhesive" picture hangers? They are guaranteed to not leave marks when removed and require no drilling. I've enclosed a link to picture of the box from an Amazon ad: [http://www.amazon.com/3M-Sawtooth-Picture- Hanger/dp/B0001DTL2O] I'm interested to see what others have to say about the Velcro. Regards, Russ --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, johnabo2003 <no_reply@...> wrote: acrylic backed 2" self adhesive velcro. Has anybody had any problems with the
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