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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marinas in Spain
Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
Luis, we have spent a number of weeks in Almerimar
over the last few years. This is a great spot, you have all the services you need along with resonable prices. The Marina is well protrected and getting transport to other parts of Europe and the world are not an issue. Richard Piller Challenge SM 208 --- "Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo" <l_gonzalezvallejo@yahoo.es> wrote: I recommned you ALMERIMAR , in Almeria, one ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
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SM # 347 SULAJON BOW THRUSTER
jfolino901 <jfolino901@...>
MY BOW THRUSTER IS STUCK IN THE DOWN POSITION. THE PROXIMITY SENSORS
LIGHT UP, BUT NO MOVEMENT. IN FACT THE THRUSTER PROP ALSO IS INOPERATIVE. HOW CAN I RAISE THE UNIT? THE LIFT MOTOR SOUNDS LIKE IT IS STILL WORKING, BUT SLIPING ON THE DRIVE SHAFT? ANY HELP, OR CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS WOULD BE APPRECIATED. THE BOTTOM PROXIMITY SENSOR HAS BROKEN ITS STAINLESS STEEL CLAMP. THIS SENSOR HAS AN "H" ON IT. IF I POSITION IT ON THE SHAFT IT THINKS THE THRUSTER IS UP. JOHN FOLINO
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marinas in Spain
Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@...>
I recommned you ALMERIMAR , in Almeria, one of the largest and affordable , full of services :
PUERTO DEPORTIVO ALMERIMAR EMAIL: info@marina-almerimar.com www.marina-almerimar.com Good luck Luis G.de Vallejo Aloysius Mango #10 --------------------------------- LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Darn Batteries - Thank you
Eric Lindholm
There is another item you may want to check and that is AC ripple from your charger. There was an article in a recent Cruising World on how AC ripple can cause your batteries to discharge even when the charger is going full bore. The article said to test for this with a multimeter on the AC setting, putting the black probe on the negative, the red on the positive, and if it shows more that .2 VAC it will cause to batteries to discharge while cooking them at the same time. Cruising World March 2007 page 98.
Eric "Maramu" 105 agav8ter <agav8ter@yahoo.com> wrote: Thank you to all who have answered. I called and spoke to the Link 10 / Mastervolt people, they confirm that the the Mastervolt is not a regulator. Gary, I now have four of the eight batteries that must be replaced. I sopke with Simon at Rolls Battery, and he advised me that my batteries are "sulfated" because I am not charging them to a high enough voltage (28.8v). He further stated that it is sensless to replace the batteries until the Dolphin Charger can put out the 28.8V as the new batteries will just sulfate again. He felt stong enough about this that he said he would not advise spending the money on Rolls batteries as they absolutly need the 28.8V. I have done most of the checking and testing you recommended, and I still have the same result, only 27.3 volts from the charger. Gary, do you use Skype??? Can I Skype you? Thanks again, Tony
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Darn Batteries - Thank you
Ag Av8ter
Thank you to all who have answered. I called and spoke to the Link
10 / Mastervolt people, they confirm that the the Mastervolt is not a regulator. Gary, I now have four of the eight batteries that must be replaced. I sopke with Simon at Rolls Battery, and he advised me that my batteries are "sulfated" because I am not charging them to a high enough voltage (28.8v). He further stated that it is sensless to replace the batteries until the Dolphin Charger can put out the 28.8V as the new batteries will just sulfate again. He felt stong enough about this that he said he would not advise spending the money on Rolls batteries as they absolutly need the 28.8V. I have done most of the checking and testing you recommended, and I still have the same result, only 27.3 volts from the charger. Gary, do you use Skype??? Can I Skype you? Thanks again, Tony
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Re: Marinas in Spain
Ken Knight <ken@...>
Spanish Marinas in August are at their most expensive and it is the
busiest time, but after mid September they become much cheaper and easier to get berths. Many yachts over winter in Barcelona there are 2 marinas with a third being completed, the most popular is Port Vell being an easy walk to the Ramblas (centre of the city) second is Port Olympic. The marinas in Barcelona are not so expensive but getting a winter berth can be a problem. Barcelona is an exciting & vibrant city, from Barcelona Airport one can get budjet flights to almost anywhere in Europe. North of Barcelona there are many Marinas most of which are cheaper than those in the South of Spain. Such as Palamos, Estratit, L'Escala (not very sheltered), Rosas, Empuriabrava (where we are berthed & the most sheltered),etc all within easy reach of Barcelona or Girona Airport, suprisingly some of these are more expensive than Puerto Vela, Rosas & Empuriabra are not very far from the French border & within easy reach of the Balearics & Sardinia.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Trinidad-Marina Information
RJ
Hi Gary,
where are you in St Maarten? We will be in Phillipsburg Sun the 18th for one day. We will be getting our 54 and would love to chat with you. Can we have a coffee? Richard and Linda Somm ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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Re: Marinas in Spain
robincooter <robincooter@...>
Hi,
Marinas in Spain now tend either to be expensive, and full, or if a reasonable price then just full. Two you could try are Almerimar and Aguadulce, both are at the bottom end of the price range. Almerimar is big but Aguadulce is better sheltered (ignore the pilot book - the writer must never have been there and much of the information is inaccurate!) Both not far from Almeria, which has good transport links as well as "cheap" flights to the rest of Europe. Good hunting, Robin Cooter Santorin 004, Belouga. --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "coatsken" <goldendaze@...> wrote:
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Re: Trinidad-Marina Information
Howard Berger
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "gwollenberg" <bozocinq@...>
wrote: Crew's Inn is probably the best in terms of facilities and convenience to restaurants. It's also the most expensive, but the Trini dollar is still 6 to 1. We stayed there from March to early May 2001 and had our topsides repainted there. Regards, Howard Berger s/v Anthem Maramu 144
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marinas in Spain
Howard Berger
Though it's not in Spain, the Lagos Marina in the Portuguese Algarve is a great place to safely leave your boat. We sailed there in the summer of 2000 and noticed that many Europeans and especially Brits kept their vessels there while they were away elsewhere. The Chipione Marina on the south of Spain, though small, is also attractive and at the time was very inexpensive (of course the dollar was a LOT stronger then).
Good luck and enjoy your trip. Horta in the Azores is still one of my best remembered landfalls. Be sure to bring along some paint and brushes to paint your names on the Mole there and do stop in to Peter's Cafe Sport, one of the coolest yachtie hangouts in all of sailingdom. Howard Berger s/v Anthem Maramu 144 From: "coatsken" <goldendaze@uuplus.com>_________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701
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Marinas in Spain
coatsken <goldendaze@...>
We are making our first crossing May 1 in our 1985 Maramu. We hope to
end up in Spain sometime in Aug. after a while in the Azores. We would appreciate any info on marinas for next winter. Not too expensive where we can leave the boat safely while we travel inland. Can anyone help us out? Also if anyone with Med. experience would like to give us any helpful information we would like to set up direct email so we can ask a lot of questions. We just retired, so will spend as long as we like the sailing and traveling there. All the way to Turkey. Thanks, Ken & Judy Golden Daze Maramu 198
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Re: Trinidad-Marina Information
Hi Gary,
I see you got some great answers about Trinidad from posting your question on the Seven Seas Cruising Association - SSCA - Discussion Board. That's a super forum I'd recommend for any cruising questions we Amel folks might have - go to www.ssca.org and follow the link to the Discussion Board. You can even join SSCA while you're there! Cheers, Craig Briggs s/v SANGARIS Santorin #68 and a member of the SSCA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Darn Batteries-Link 10
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Hi Dimitris and Tony:
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I can confirm that the Link 10 is a monitoring system only. It does not directly control anything. It directly monitors voltage at the battery bank and has a shunt to measure amperage (current flow) in and out of the battery bank. The amp hours used and percent functions are based on calculations performed by the Link 10. However, since most of us depend upon the readings that the Link 10 displays to determine how long to charge the batteries and to what voltage and/or percent of charge to charge one might say that indeed the Link 10 does "control", although in an indirect sense, the charging of the batteries. Having just re-read Tony's post I can think of a couple of items that might cause his symptoms. 1) Possibly a single bad battery, 2) a high resistance connection between the charger and the battery bank, 3) a high resistance connection between the Link 10 and the battery bank, and 4) a sneak circuit that is draining the battery bank. For Possibility # 1 To troubleshoot, I would suggest Tony use a digital multimeter to measure the voltage of the batteries each individually. You can do this for each battery without removing anything by simply placing the negative multimeter probe on one negative battery post and the positive multimeter lead on the positive post of the same battery. Write your findings down and verify that all batteries have nearly the same voltage. This will assure you that you don't have a single bad battery creating a drain on your system. (do this with the charger off, and with no load on the batteries and then again with a fairly high load on the batteries). #2 Next, measure the charging voltage at the charger output and compare that with the charging voltage at the batteries. If it isn't nearly identical then you have a high resistance connection there that you need to correct. #3 Next, measure the voltage of the entire bank of batteries at the main bank terminals as they exit the battery box. See if this voltage is that same as displayed by the Link 10. If it is not very very close than you have a bad (high resistance) connection on the link 10. Look for it and correct it. As someone in these post said, "garbage in garbage out". The Link 10 needs good data to yield good data. #4 Next, once the battery bank has stabilized from the charging sequence, (e.g. 30 minutes after charging), shut off every 24 volt breaker including any "keep alive memory" circuits (like the radio memory switch on my Hull # 335 Amel), and verify that the Link 10 shows zero current draw and that the voltage is stable (i.e. not dropping). If it doesn't show zero current draw or a stable voltage then you have a "sneak circuit" somewhere that is draining your batteries. Normally the voltage will drop very slowly, we are talking a few tenths of a volt over many hours due to battery self discharge. If there is more rapid drop off you will need to find the sneak circuit and fix it. That can involve a bit of detective work and a "clamp ammeter", that usually cost about $US 50. Tony, lastly, verify that your set up of the Link 10 has proper data set into it as previously mentioned in this thread. Use the install manual to verify the correct set up. Take careful notes during each step of this Trouble-shooting process and I believe you will find your problem. Good luck. Gary Silver s/v Liahona lying Antigua amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Krassopoulos Dimitris" <dkra@...> wrote:
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Trinidad-Marina Information
gwollenberg <bozocinq@...>
I am thinking of taking my AMEL 54 to Trinidad during the June to
November hurricane season. I am looking for a list of marina's that members who have been to Trinidad would recommend. Also, any other suggestions would be appreciated. I am presently moored at St Maarten. Thanks, Gary Sailing Vessel "Bozo Cinq"
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Darn Batteries-Link 10
Roger Banks <roger.banks@...>
Dimitris
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In the best spirit of friendship, here is a hyperlink to the "Xantrex Link 10 Battery Monitor" Owner's Manual. Nothing in the manual refers to control or regulation and, having personally installed a Xantrex, I can confirm there is no such function in mine. http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/72/docserve.asp Here is a link to a sample Mastervolt, the Alpha Pro, which is a 3- step charge regulator. Different beast altogether. http://www.mastervolt.com/defaultC.asp?gr=Regulators Hope this all helps Tony with his issue. Regards, Roger, Mango 28, Zorba
On 13/03/2007, at 7:18 PM, Krassopoulos Dimitris wrote:
I do not agree that the Link 10 does not control anything. It
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membership
Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
Good afternoon, that assumes you are in this time zone.
Thanks for the membership in the Amel Yacht Owners Group. We are most happy to be a part of the group with hopes of adding to the great service it provides. best regards and Fair Winds!! Richard and Joan Piller --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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membership
Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
Good afternoon, that assumes you are in this time zone.
Thanks for the membership in the Amel Yacht Owners Group. We are most happy to be a part of the group with hopes of adding to the great service it provides. best regards and Fair Winds!! Richard and Joan Piller --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking to purchase a "South" Amel
Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
Fred, we are here in the US with a very good Amel 46 for sale. We are how the owner of two boats, both Amel's. I have had a very serious shoulder problem(S) that have forced us into/onto a bigger boat with electric everything. So, we have a very good manual Amel that is simple to sail and ready to go. We did a complete re-fit prior to crossing the Atlantic in 05. The boat is now in Annapolis and ready to sail.
We are will go the airfare if in the end you buy her. Let me know if you are interested. She is a very complete boat and can be seen on Yacht World. We are the owners not the brokers. Looking forward to hearing from you one way or the other. best regards Richard Piller Amel Challenge 46 Hull 134 fredfroget <fredfroget@yahoo.com> wrote: Hello to all and thank you to the list owner for accepting me as a member of your group. In the process of moving up in yacht size I have placed Amels on my short list. I'm in Brisbane, Australia and enquire whether there are any Amel owners who might be planning, or indeed are in transit south and intend to make Australia or SoPac the final stop with intention of selling their yacht here or somewhere else in the SoPac. I am looking to purchase within a flexible timeframe and would consider Amels 46' and over, preferably without C Drive...ie Maramu and Mango, although C Drive yachts built prior to 1998 may be considered. Incidently, any purchase is not dependent on the sale of an existing vessel as is so often the case. That is, I intend a cash purchase for the right yacht. I am looking for a personal yacht. I am not a broker or dealer and would ask that only private owners contact me personally. I do not wish to transact with brokers, dealers , professional or semi- professional yacht delivery outfits. Please feel free to contact me at..... fredfroget AT yahoo.com --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
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Looking to purchase a "South" Amel
fredfroget
Hello to all and thank you to the list owner for accepting me as a
member of your group. In the process of moving up in yacht size I have placed Amels on my short list. I'm in Brisbane, Australia and enquire whether there are any Amel owners who might be planning, or indeed are in transit south and intend to make Australia or SoPac the final stop with intention of selling their yacht here or somewhere else in the SoPac. I am looking to purchase within a flexible timeframe and would consider Amels 46' and over, preferably without C Drive...ie Maramu and Mango, although C Drive yachts built prior to 1998 may be considered. Incidently, any purchase is not dependent on the sale of an existing vessel as is so often the case. That is, I intend a cash purchase for the right yacht. I am looking for a personal yacht. I am not a broker or dealer and would ask that only private owners contact me personally. I do not wish to transact with brokers, dealers , professional or semi- professional yacht delivery outfits. Please feel free to contact me at..... fredfroget AT yahoo.com
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Darn Batteries-Link 10
Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
I do not agree that the Link 10 does not control anything. It controls the
voltage cut off for sure so if it is not adjusted correctly the batteries will never be charged the same applies also as you mention for the bank capacity. So in any case the Link 10 or Mastervolt have to be adjusted to the voltage and capacity. Regards Dimitris S/Y Alma Libre SM-2000 _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Banks Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:44 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Darn Batteries-Link 10 With respect, I don't think the Xantrex Link controls anything. What it does do very well is to monitor the batteries' charging and discharging. What Dimitris is probably referring to is that the Link needs to know the Amp Hour capacity of your battery bank in order to do its calculations. Trojans, for instance are 105 Ah at 6 volts; thus four batteries would equate to 210 Ah at 12 volts or 105Ah at 24 volts. I have a Link for my 12 volt system and it comes preset to assume the battery bank has 200 Ah at 12 volts; it needs to be set. This information should allow you to check and set accordingly. However, Tony doesn't mention a Link, but a Mastervolt, model not specified. It probably has the same need for batterybank data. Whether it's a Link or a Mastervolt, there is no substitute for checking all the readings with a multimeter. In case you've never used one, they're really dead easy and provide more accurate data then other approaches. The Link for instance is just a computer and so works on the garbage in garbage out principle. (I did find a fault in my Link and had to return it to the USA for replacement under warranty.) Maybe the Mastervolt does actually control the charge voltage, i.e. a master regulator as it's name suggests, in which case you'd be looking for something like a grubscrew, which may be on the front, the back, or inside of the unit. The manual or a google search would tell you. 27.3 volts is a maintenance charge only; however the amperage at 3-5 indicates that the batteries are full (2% of capacity). You do need to explore the issue until you can establish 28.4 volts. You mention that you have to run the generator 2-3 times per day to keep up with demand but do not provide any data on demand. It's not hard to establish the amp draw for each consumer; the Link can show that information with a bit of attention to isolating other draws, and shows the total draw, currently and accumulated, as standard displays; a multimeter would be better. It's not wise to use more than half the Ah capacity of your bank and some would say 30%. All the more reason to ensure your capacity is correctly recorded in the monitor. Finally, have you considered adding solar and wind generation, to set you free of hydrocarbon generators and shorepower? My solar alone powers the fridge and ventilators when I'm away, which is the majority of the time. It's a good feeling to know the boat is carbon neutral most of the time. More practically, it means that I can leave her disconnected from shorepower and avoid the dreaded marina galvanic corrosion. Regards, Roger, Mango 28, Zorba On 12/03/2007, at 8:56 PM, Krassopoulos Dimitris wrote: You have to check the Link 10 equipment. This controls the charging<http://www.xantrex.com/> com/> where the is ayahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283 Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:07 AMyahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Darn Batteries
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