Re: engine change
Udo,
I have a 1989 Super Maramu with perhaps the same model M80T Perkins. I suggest you give Foley Engines up in Mass a call or email--they have everything you'll need to get your Perkins and Hurth transmission running smoothly. Phone is 508-753-2979 or email info@foleyengines.com. Even if your Perkins wasn't taken care of properly and needs an overhaul, that may be a better (and less costly) way to proceed. Richard SM#5 Spice --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Udo J. Reich" <udo@...> wrote: Turbo and a Maxprop. I have several questions.engine? get them?cruising rpm and your max rpm under power?of the pitch of the prop?
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engine change
Udo J. Reich <udo@...>
We are the new owners of a SM built in 1991 with the 80 hp Perkins Turbo and
a Maxprop. I have several questions. Has anybody changed engines and switched to the 4JH3-HTE Yanmar engine? If we keep the Perkins, we need new motor mounts. Any idea where to get them? Anybody who has the same set up with the Maxprop. What is your cruising rpm and your max rpm under power? Does anybody with a max prop and the 80 hp Perkins know the setting of the pitch of the prop? I'd appreciate any input. Udo J. Reich Cloud seven
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Painting deck stripes
John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
Put deck stripes in the search box and become a well read painter!!
Regards, John
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Re: Maramu forestay removal
myersdon1 <myersdon@...>
I don't have experience with the Maramu, however I have removed the
forestay on our Super Maramu. There is a plastic spacer at the bottom of the foil that must be removed before pulling the forestay out. Once this is removed the forestay comes out with very little force. I suspect that the setup on the Maramu is similar. Don Myers SM160 Harmonie --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "coatsken" <goldendaze@...> wrote: 192. All is apart except I am having difficulty getting the forestay outof the furling tube. I have tied the base to a tree and have pulledon the eye (top end) with a come-a-long up to about 800 pounds or so, (myblocking the plastic (or nylon) spacers (the gadjets that keep the wire fromspirits down the tube. Still it won't budge. Has anyone got someexperience with this job. Maybe I am overlooking something simpleuntil next year as my time estimates on getting the boat ready have proven
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu forestay removal
john martin <symoondog@...>
Ken, I have no experience with the furler, but lots with frozen,rusted bolts and nuts. There is a product called 'Blaster' P B sold in auto supply stores. It's 10 to one better then wd40 or any thing else. Don't leave port without it!
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Painting deck stripes
liebling207 <liebling207@...>
rbenven44
We would like to paint the deck strips on our Amel and saw the pictures you had posted. Could you let us know what materials you used. The stripes look GREAT! James DeSalvo
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] leak in clothes washer
asm283 <no_reply@...>
Thanks Eric
I figured Amel must have done something to make it easy. As usual you are a lifesaver. Vito --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote: bolts on the sides of the washer cabinet.washer and is very easy to move or remove.its from the freshwater intake but I cant be sure.t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3= Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q>t=ms&k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yac ht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> yacht t=ms&k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3=Ame l&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w>t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+y acht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA> sailingsubject=Unsubscribe>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] leak in clothes washer
eric freedman
Vito,
If your washer is anything like mine, there are a few polished bolts on the sides of the washer cabinet. By removing these few bolts the whole cabinet comes away from the washer and is very easy to move or remove. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283 Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:59 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] leak in clotheswasher Hello everyone I have a 2000 SM# 283 with Thomson washer/drier I have notied a slight leak in my clothes washer drier. I believe its from the freshwater intake but I cant be sure. Has anyone had a similar problem. If so how did you fix it. Has anyone had to remove the clotheswasher. How is this done? Thanks Vito SPONSORED LINKS Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3= Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q> Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yac ht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> yacht Amel <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3=Ame l&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+y acht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA> sailing _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "amelyachtowners <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____
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leak in clotheswasher
asm283 <no_reply@...>
Hello everyone
I have a 2000 SM# 283 with Thomson washer/drier I have notied a slight leak in my clothes washer drier. I believe its from the freshwater intake but I cant be sure. Has anyone had a similar problem. If so how did you fix it. Has anyone had to remove the clotheswasher. How is this done? Thanks Vito
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu - size of battery box?
Horst Pause <horst@...>
Thank you for that, this is of great help
Horst - Maramu 168 ________________________________ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of coatsken Sent: 24 April 2006 14:15 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu - size of battery box? Battery box on Maramu hull 192 is: Length from inside forward end to pipe block aft: 43.25" Width: 13.5" This is compressing the foam that is still in my battery box on the engine room wall side. I just changed from gel cells to 6v lead acid golf cart batteries and am happy so far (about 1 year, live aboard). Maintenence is minor and cost is far less. Have 6 115 AH for house bank. Use 1 12v AGM (Lifeline) for engine and am also happy with it. (about 3 years). Hangs on to its charge well when not used. ________________________________ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "amelyachtowners <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . ________________________________
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Re: Maramu - size of battery box?
coatsken <goldendaze@...>
Battery box on Maramu hull 192 is:
Length from inside forward end to pipe block aft: 43.25" Width: 13.5" This is compressing the foam that is still in my battery box on the engine room wall side. I just changed from gel cells to 6v lead acid golf cart batteries and am happy so far (about 1 year, live aboard). Maintenence is minor and cost is far less. Have 6 115 AH for house bank. Use 1 12v AGM (Lifeline) for engine and am also happy with it. (about 3 years). Hangs on to its charge well when not used.
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Maramu forestay removal
coatsken <goldendaze@...>
I have removed the main to paint and re rig on 1985 Maramu hull # 192.
All is apart except I am having difficulty getting the forestay out of the furling tube. I have tied the base to a tree and have pulled on the eye (top end) with a come-a-long up to about 800 pounds or so, (my guess) and nothing has moved. Thinking corrosion in the tube blocking the plastic (or nylon) spacers (the gadjets that keep the wire from touching the inner tube wall) I have poured wd-40 and mineral spirits down the tube. Still it won't budge. Has anyone got some experience with this job. Maybe I am overlooking something simple (or stupid). Need help as am afraid of hurting the furling tube and compounding my problems. We had hoped to sail to the Med this May/June, but will postpone until next year as my time estimates on getting the boat ready have proven to be somewhat naive. Thanks, Ken Coats & Judy Golden SV Golden Daze Maramu #192
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Maramu - size of battery box?
Horst Pause <horst@...>
I need new batteries, but am away from the boat.
Can anyone please measure the battery box, length and width, - I don't want to end up with having to make a new box! Thank you Horst - Maramu 168
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] NAVIONIC NAVNET CHARTS WANTED
Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@...>
I have available some Navionics charts, never used because I have change my Furuno by a Simrad, the charts cover the Mediterranean coasts from Turquey , Greece, Italy, Balearics, Spanish Mediterranean coasts, and Atlantic coasts from Holland to Canaries.
If you are interested ,I can give more details, Regards, Luis G. de Vallejo --------------------------------- LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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race handicap
svcallisto369
For all you loony racers out there in cyberland, you will find a
Southern California PHRF handicap rating from 2004 posted in the file section of this forum. There is one error that I did not correct, in that the rating factors for a lead keel instead of a cast iron keel. I think that this is probably because cast iron keels are very unusual in the US and there was no way the calculation could be done. I would agree that The SM is not much of a windward leeward boat, but can do fairly well off the wind on random leg races especially if there is a decent breeze. The beer, however, is always cold. Regards, MDL
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You do not have the privileges to perform this operation
eric freedman
hi,
i have some photos i would like to post to my photo album on this site but i get the above message when i try to post. what am i doing wrong. thanks eric sm 376 Kimberlite
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Racing handicap info
Graham Boyd
Our SM 140 "Sula" has a Clyde Yacht Club Association handicap of 17.5. From what I have seen this seems about right. We get no where until it blows 15 kts and will win on a reach in 30kts! As the handicap committee said to me, handicapping heavyish cruising yachts is not that easy.
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From: John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@compuserve.com> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 12 April, 2006 7:18:09 PM Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Racing handicap info Has anyone got any information on handicaps fpr an SM 2000 as I am hoping to do a cruiser class race and the committee will think of a number if I cannot give any guidance? Regards, John SM319 Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop shaft bearing
Hi Jan & Judy, and Eric,
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I wish to thank all of you,and all the active and less active members of this group, for always very precious supports . Fair winds...buon vento from MED Venezia. Gianni Testa sv EUTIKIA SM2K # 428
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From: eric To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 12:43 AM Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop shaft bearing I received this from ian & Judy Jenkins. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite HOW TO STRIP DOWN PROPELLER AND STERN GLAND You will need a 24mm spanner or ratchet in addition to usual tools plus the following allen keys 3mm, 4mm, 1/8th and 9/64ths. 1. Undo the 3 nylon bolts holding on the red nose. This reveals the nut secured by an allen key. Round the side of the allen key may need cleaning. The allen key needs quite a lot of pressure to shift it. 2. Once the allen key is removed, the big central nut will also take a lot of pressure to undo. You need a block of wood about 12" square and 2" thick. This rests between one of the prop blades and the horizontal surface of the keel below to keep the shaft still. 3. Having loosened the big nut, but before it is removed, put in place the 3-bolt remover. Each of the 3 bolts goes home. Then put a big spanner on the centre bolt and assist by 'tapping-in' the centre bolt lightly with a hammer. The bolt takes a lot of shifting, about ¼ of a turn per effort, tapping also on the shaft between the prop and the prop-cutter (quite hard). 4. When the big bolt turns freely, unscrew the 3-bolt remover, remove the centre nut and the whole prop. 5. Remove the collar and clean off the outside of the cutter blade. 6. Tap out the key on the stainless steel shaft - tap fore and aft and it will come. 7. Undo the allen keys on the cutter. NB at least one of these is a non metric key! ALSO when holding the shaft do so with a rag or glove as the key-housing is very sharp. 8. Loosen the large nut with a V in it - which is below the stainless steel shaft. Before removing it put a wide funnel, hose and container under it. Be prepared for the oil to spurt out. It will take about an hour to drain. It is not necessary to open the oil reservoir inside the boat. 9. Having removed this large nut and drained the oil, dig out the narrow seal (against which the inboard end of the nut rests) with a screw-driver. 10. To put BACK this big nut, check the O ring on it, put silicon on it plus a new seal to replace the seal taken out under 9. Replace the seal on the nut shaft with silicon on the boat-side of the seal. When the nut is tightened up the V should be vertical. 11. To extract the 'wearing out ring' (which I refer to as the bronze bearing), undo the 2 allen keys and use a screwdriver to lever against the allen key or tap out the bronze bearing using a hammer and chisel - the chisel pointing obliquely aft. 12. Once the bronze bearing is out, take a big screw-driver and dig out the 3 rubber seals. 13. With a small blade clean the surface of the in situ (female) part of the bearing. Also with sandpaper clean the aft-part of the internal surface having sealed inboard with some tissue (the seals sit slightly in from the aft edge of the in situ bearing so there can be a build-up of calcium here). After cleaning remove tissue! 14. Before replacing bronze bearing with its 3 seals, you need to make sure that the O ring on the inside of the new bronze bearing will fit properly. To do so, push the new bronze bearing home without fitting the seals. It should go with a hard push from your hands. If it doesn't, try a different O ring, as they are not all absolutely identical. 15. Once you are happy with the O ring fit, fill each rubber seal with grease plus a very small amount on the edge of the in situ bearing to assist entry. Use the old bronze bearing to push in the first, subsequently the second and subsequently the third (i.e. do not put all 3 in at the same time) NB The first 2 seals have the hollow section facing forward, the 3rd has the hollow section facing aft. ALSO it helps in tapping home the old bronze bearing to use a pipe with a greater diameter than the shaft, one end of which you can rest against the outer face of the old bronze bearing and the other end of which you can tap with a hammer. 16. Having tapped home the 3 seals so that the 3rd seal is about 10mm inset, remove the old bronze bearing and push in the new bearing so that it is hard up against the outboard seal. THEN ease the bronze bearing aft 2mm so that it is not actually touching the seal. This will leave the 2 allen keys on the bronze bearing about 2 to 3 mm aft of the in situ bearing and the widest part of the bronze bearing will be about 2mm inside the in situ bearing. Tighten these allen keys. 17. Replace the thin rubber ring on the shaft ahead of the stripper. 18. Fit a new anode on the stripper. When reassembled this anode fits inside the V on the big nut. Tighten the two pairs of allen keys to secure the stripper to the shaft. 19. Replace the rubber ring aft of the stripper. 20. Replace the key in the stainless steel shaft. 21. Clean the inside of the prop and put the prop back on the shaft, lining up the slot on the prop with the key. Tighten up the 24mm nut really tight, to fasten the prop to the shaft and replace the allen key against a flat side of the nut using Loctite. 22. Replace the nylon nose without greasing the 3 nylon nuts. 23. Take this opportunity to re-grease the prop through the allen key holes on each blade and hub. These do not need Loctite on replacement. 24. Refill the leg with 15w40 oil through the reservoir - it will take 8 to 9 litres. 25. When draining the BOW THRUSTER TUBE capture the oil in a transparent container to see if there is any water in it. If there is, change the seal between the prop and the leg. -----Original Message----- From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of minaxi53 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:34 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop shaft bearing Can anyone give a detailed description as how the prop bearings are pulled and replaced. My boatyard mechanic is reluctant to do this as he has not worked on Amels Drive before. Vito, I believe you did this a while ago? How are things going? I see you made it to the other side so far, drop me an email with your adventures "bob@bourlet.com" Thanks for any info Bob Minaxi SM6 Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. b.. 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spade anchor refit (RECALL ?)
eric freedman
I found this on cruising forum website.
Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite Despite doubts over the case, Spade have agreed to modify future bolts, as recommended by the investigator, to include a pin after the nut and a note advising that "Nyloc" style nuts should only be used once. (There is no need to replace the nut after each deployment, but every time the anchor is dismantled). Existing owners are advised that if they have any concerns about their nuts, that they arrange for the end of the bolt to be drilled and have a pin and new "Nyloc" style nut fitted. It is the owners' responsibility to ensure that the nut & bolt (or alternative) are in good condition, secure and suitable for the purpose. It must be emphasized that thousands of Spade Anchors have been sold since 9 years, and that no similar cases have been reported.
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NAVIONIC NAVNET CHARTS WANTED
L. CAMERON <solarconstruction@...>
SM#317, LADY DIVINA IS LOOKING FOR NAVIONIC CHARTS CHIPS THAT WILL FIT A FURUNO NAV NET SYSTEMS (classic) All CHIPS CONSIDERED, BUT
LOOKING SPECIFICALLY FOR panama > trinidad # SA-020XL) THANKS FROM LADY DIVINA, LYING ST. MARTIN SOLARCONSTRUCTION@YAHOO.COM amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com wrote: There are 15 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. NAVIONIC CHARTS WANTED From: "L. CAMERON" 2. Racing handicap info From: "John and Anne on Bali Hai" 3. Re: Racing handicap info From: johnabo2003 4. Re: Racing handicap info From: johnabo2003 5. Kirk for Sale From: "syhanaleism" 6. Re: Kirk for Sale From: "RFC_SAIL" 7. Santorin Sloop - Experiences and facts? From: "hrkaptajn" 8. Re: Racing handicap info From: asm283 9. RE: Santorin Sloop - Experiences and facts? From: "Joel F. Potter" 10. gas supplies (campingaz) From: "sy melmar y" 11. Re: gas supplies (campingaz) From: "WILLIAM KLEIN" 12. Prop shaft bearing From: minaxi53 13. Re: Prop shaft bearing From: asm283 14. RE: Prop shaft bearing From: eric 15. Prop shaft bearing From: "John and Anne on Bali Hai" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:30:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "L. CAMERON" Subject: NAVIONIC CHARTS WANTED SM#317, LADY DIVINA IS LOOKING FOR NAVIONIC CHARTS CHIPS THAT WILL FIT A FURUNO NAV NET SYSTEMS (gold system). ALL CHIPS CONSIDERED, BUT LOOKING SPECIFICALLY FOR #8 CARIBBEAN (xl-3 GOLD SYSTEM) THANKS FROM LADY DIVINA SOLARCONSTRUCTION@YAHOO.COM --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:18:09 -0000 From: "John and Anne on Bali Hai" Subject: Racing handicap info Has anyone got any information on handicaps fpr an SM 2000 as I am hoping to do a cruiser class race and the committee will think of a number if I cannot give any guidance? Regards, John SM319 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:39:43 -0000 From: johnabo2003 Subject: Re: Racing handicap info --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai" wrote: Try this web link http://www.almalibre.gr/racing.htm. It was posted by a guy who races in Greece. Its a bit hard to read, but if you e-mail him he my be able to send more info. Regards John ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:39:11 -0000 From: johnabo2003 Subject: Re: Racing handicap info --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai" wrote: Try this web link http://www.almalibre.gr/racing.htm. It was posted by a guy who races in Greece. Its a bit hard to read, but if you e-mail him he my be able to send more info. Regards John ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:01:40 -0000 From: "syhanaleism" Subject: Kirk for Sale Sloop, 1978, No. 229, lying: Switzerland, many extras, one owner, please ask for the documentation. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:23:04 +0200 From: "RFC_SAIL" Subject: Re: Kirk for Sale I will like to see the documentation. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "syhanaleism" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 17:01 Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kirk for Sale Sloop, 1978, No. 229, lying: Switzerland, many extras, one owner, ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:19:35 -0000 From: "hrkaptajn" Subject: Santorin Sloop - Experiences and facts? Hi All, I'm currently considering buying a 1991 Amel Santorin sloop after having looked for Maramu/Santorins for some time. Now, I'm wondering about the sloop rig - is it just a ketch without the mizzen mast or is the sloop ring taller or with a larger mainsail? Does anyone have experiences with the sloop rig? Is it as effecient as the ketch or better? Does the sloop-Santorin have the same balance in the sailplan? Or is it a handicapped ketch for people that do not want to fiddle with a mizzen sail? Any experiences, points of view or actual facts about the sloop rig will be greatly appreciated. Best regards, Lars, Denmark ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:40:48 -0000 From: asm283 Subject: Re: Racing handicap info Hi PHRF certificate is on this site and can be downloaded. Vito asm 283 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, johnabo2003 wrote: Hai" wrote:am of ahoping to do a cruiser class race and the committee will think posted bynumber if I cannot give any guidance?Try this web link http://www.almalibre.gr/racing.htm. It was a guy who races in Greece. Its a bit hard to read, but if you e-mail him he my be able to send more info. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:19:16 -0400 From: "Joel F. Potter" Subject: RE: Santorin Sloop - Experiences and facts? Hello Lars, I am the AMEL associate for the Americas for nearly 25 years and I have sailed on and sold several Santorins, ketch mainly, a couple of sloops. The main mast is stepped to the same spot, the boom is longer and the mast height is the same. The sloop has a 30 square meter main and a 60 square meter jib. The ketch has a 26 square meter main, 52 square met jib and a 13 square meter mizzen. The ketch is much more pleasant to sail and has better balance once off the wind 50 º++. The ketch goes to weather the same angle as the sloop, just not quite as quick as the mizzen is useless under 50º apparent and just adds drag. Off the wind, the ketch is much faster. The ketch offers more sail combinations to match different wind and sea conditions. The mizzen is a fine place to mount your radar, the mizzen boom a fine thing to lift outboards and dive gear. In my experience, the sloop is much more difficult to resell and sell for at least 15% less than an equivalent ketch. The Super Maramu was more than 2 times as popular as the Santorin and is, truly much easier to sail (electric winches) and twice as comfortable. If you choose to afford one, it's a better (and more expensive) boat. That said I would take either model of the Santorin over any similar sized sailing yacht, but the ketch is a better boat. Not that I ever have an opinion about anything, mind you… Good luck with you AMEL search. Super Maramus priced in Dollars are attractive values for Europeans these days, but I don't wish to commercialize this very valued owners group so contact me directly if I can be of service at jfpottercyw@att.net Best regards, Joel F. Potter AMEL 54, Hull # 14 - HOLLIS ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:36:58 +0200 From: "sy melmar y" Subject: gas supplies (campingaz) hello. on our maramu we have a (quite) small gaslocker just outside the galley. it has room for two campingaz (blue, 3kg) bottles. has anyone experiance on avarage consumption (how long will a 3kg-bottle aprx last?) and where we will get campingaz (around the world). what other ways are used to get to cooking gas are used? i wouldn't like the idea too much to tie up one of those huge bottles to our pushpit... we are "newcomers"/just starting our circumnavigation - thanks for any ideas/hints. marc, MELMAR Y, maramu #89, www.melmar.ch ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:59:04 -0400 From: "WILLIAM KLEIN" Subject: Re: gas supplies (campingaz) I switched to propane tanks. This is easily accomplished with standard small propane tanks, but the valve guard must be sortened to fit into the small locker so a welder must be consulted. The propane line fittings are available at any camping store. --Billl Klein Maramu 91 "Popeye" ----- Original Message ----- From: sy melmar y To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:36 AM Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] gas supplies (campingaz) hello. on our maramu we have a (quite) small gaslocker just outside the galley. it has room for two campingaz (blue, 3kg) bottles. has anyone experiance on avarage consumption (how long will a 3kg-bottle aprx last?) and where we will get campingaz (around the world). what other ways are used to get to cooking gas are used? i wouldn't like the idea too much to tie up one of those huge bottles to our pushpit... we are "newcomers"/just starting our circumnavigation - thanks for any ideas/hints. marc, MELMAR Y, maramu #89, www.melmar.ch SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:34:02 -0000 From: minaxi53 Subject: Prop shaft bearing Can anyone give a detailed description as how the prop bearings are pulled and replaced. My boatyard mechanic is reluctant to do this as he has not worked on Amels Drive before. Vito, I believe you did this a while ago? How are things going? I see you made it to the other side so far, drop me an email with your adventures "bob@bourlet.com" Thanks for any info Bob Minaxi SM6 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:43:04 -0000 From: asm283 Subject: Re: Prop shaft bearing Hi Bob Good to hear from you. The prop shaft should be changed every 800 hours. When you bought the boat from me the prop shaft had been changed less that 50 hours before. You should have detailed shaft drawings on board. Also, if the u drive oil resevoir looks like there is a milkshake in it its time to change it. 1- Drain the shaft oil from the drain plug. 2- Remove the prop 3-Remove the bearing by lossening the allen nut and pulling it out. Note the orientation of the rubber gaskets. 4- Replac the bearing with a new one making sure that the rubber gaskets are in the same orientation as the old ones. put bck prop and fill with oil. This is a good time to service the prop. Thats pretty much it. Its not a complicated job. Much simpler than replacing an outdrive bearing. Hope this helps. I will e-mail you an update on my travels. Vito Wanderer I --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, minaxi53 wrote: see you made it to the other side so far, drop me an email with your ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:43:03 -0400 From: eric Subject: RE: Prop shaft bearing I received this from ian & Judy Jenkins. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite HOW TO STRIP DOWN PROPELLER AND STERN GLAND You will need a 24mm spanner or ratchet in addition to usual tools plus the following allen keys 3mm, 4mm, 1/8th and 9/64ths. 1. Undo the 3 nylon bolts holding on the red nose. This reveals the nut secured by an allen key. Round the side of the allen key may need cleaning. The allen key needs quite a lot of pressure to shift it. 2. Once the allen key is removed, the big central nut will also take a lot of pressure to undo. You need a block of wood about 12” square and 2” thick. This rests between one of the prop blades and the horizontal surface of the keel below to keep the shaft still. 3. Having loosened the big nut, but before it is removed, put in place the 3-bolt remover. Each of the 3 bolts goes home. Then put a big spanner on the centre bolt and assist by ‘tapping-in’ the centre bolt lightly with a hammer. The bolt takes a lot of shifting, about ¼ of a turn per effort, tapping also on the shaft between the prop and the prop-cutter (quite hard). 4. When the big bolt turns freely, unscrew the 3-bolt remover, remove the centre nut and the whole prop. 5. Remove the collar and clean off the outside of the cutter blade. 6. Tap out the key on the stainless steel shaft – tap fore and aft and it will come. 7. Undo the allen keys on the cutter. NB at least one of these is a non metric key! ALSO when holding the shaft do so with a rag or glove as the key-housing is very sharp. 8. Loosen the large nut with a V in it - which is below the stainless steel shaft. Before removing it put a wide funnel, hose and container under it. Be prepared for the oil to spurt out. It will take about an hour to drain. It is not necessary to open the oil reservoir inside the boat. 9. Having removed this large nut and drained the oil, dig out the narrow seal (against which the inboard end of the nut rests) with a screw-driver. 10. To put BACK this big nut, check the O ring on it, put silicon on it plus a new seal to replace the seal taken out under 9. Replace the seal on the nut shaft with silicon on the boat-side of the seal. When the nut is tightened up the V should be vertical. 11. To extract the ‘wearing out ring’ (which I refer to as the bronze bearing), undo the 2 allen keys and use a screwdriver to lever against the allen key or tap out the bronze bearing using a hammer and chisel - the chisel pointing obliquely aft. 12. Once the bronze bearing is out, take a big screw-driver and dig out the 3 rubber seals. 13. With a small blade clean the surface of the in situ (female) part of the bearing. Also with sandpaper clean the aft-part of the internal surface having sealed inboard with some tissue (the seals sit slightly in from the aft edge of the in situ bearing so there can be a build-up of calcium here). After cleaning remove tissue! 14. Before replacing bronze bearing with its 3 seals, you need to make sure that the O ring on the inside of the new bronze bearing will fit properly. To do so, push the new bronze bearing home without fitting the seals. It should go with a hard push from your hands. If it doesn’t, try a different O ring, as they are not all absolutely identical. 15. Once you are happy with the O ring fit, fill each rubber seal with grease plus a very small amount on the edge of the in situ bearing to assist entry. Use the old bronze bearing to push in the first, subsequently the second and subsequently the third (i.e. do not put all 3 in at the same time) NB The first 2 seals have the hollow section facing forward, the 3rd has the hollow section facing aft. ALSO it helps in tapping home the old bronze bearing to use a pipe with a greater diameter than the shaft, one end of which you can rest against the outer face of the old bronze bearing and the other end of which you can tap with a hammer. 16. Having tapped home the 3 seals so that the 3rd seal is about 10mm inset, remove the old bronze bearing and push in the new bearing so that it is hard up against the outboard seal. THEN ease the bronze bearing aft 2mm so that it is not actually touching the seal. This will leave the 2 allen keys on the bronze bearing about 2 to 3 mm aft of the in situ bearing and the widest part of the bronze bearing will be about 2mm inside the in situ bearing. Tighten these allen keys. 17. Replace the thin rubber ring on the shaft ahead of the stripper. 18. Fit a new anode on the stripper. When reassembled this anode fits inside the V on the big nut. Tighten the two pairs of allen keys to secure the stripper to the shaft. 19. Replace the rubber ring aft of the stripper. 20. Replace the key in the stainless steel shaft. 21. Clean the inside of the prop and put the prop back on the shaft, lining up the slot on the prop with the key. Tighten up the 24mm nut really tight, to fasten the prop to the shaft and replace the allen key against a flat side of the nut using Loctite. 22. Replace the nylon nose without greasing the 3 nylon nuts. 23. Take this opportunity to re-grease the prop through the allen key holes on each blade and hub. These do not need Loctite on replacement. 24. Refill the leg with 15w40 oil through the reservoir – it will take 8 to 9 litres. 25. When draining the BOW THRUSTER TUBE capture the oil in a transparent container to see if there is any water in it. If there is, change the seal between the prop and the leg. -----Original Message----- From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of minaxi53 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:34 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop shaft bearing Can anyone give a detailed description as how the prop bearings are pulled and replaced. My boatyard mechanic is reluctant to do this as he has not worked on Amels Drive before. === message truncated === --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.
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