Grüezi in die Schweiz.

My Name is Thomas Neuland, SM #3.

I had a similar leak, it was the grey water line right underneath the
forward shower.

You can slightly color the water with a little ink and then see where it
is leaking.

All the best

Thomas Neuland
SM#3
MALLAMOK (Bastia, Corsica)

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Von: rzurkirchen2003 [mailto:r.zurkirchen@...]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. Februar 2005 09:31
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: [Amel Yacht Owners] Waterleak




Hi All,
on my SM #407 I have recognized during last season a waterleak. In the
box under the floor in front of the aft bathroom, ( between
the aft cabin door and the bathroomdoor and the wardrobe is a a
cover under the carpet ). The water only fills up when I am sailing.
When I am in the port or on anchor, no water comes in. Amel
recomendet to check if it comes from the toilet or from the shower. All
this I have checked without finding the cause. The water is
definitly salty. The leak make when sailing about 1-1.5 liter in 24
hours.
Is anyone, who had a similar experiance and knows how to repair?

For any help I am thankfull, because Amel could not help me further
in this respect.
Rudy of SAMANTHA







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that Plotter is working with C-MAP NT+ cards? Initially the system
works with C-MAP NT, but these cartridges are not produced anylonger,
but NT+, and soon C-MAP Max. I have been told that NT+ would slow
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Thanks for any information about this subject.
Paul

Resolute is a 1983 Amel Maramu. I accumulate fresh water at the
forward port side of the engine compartment. There is a slow
trickle from the lower part of the 4inch plastic ring that connects
a pipe that runs athwarthships from the side of the engine room to
the bilge. I slid the pipe from the ring and can neither see nor
feel anything obvious.

There are no visibile out board leaks. The fresh water pump area
and the water heater which has been replaced is dry as is forward in
the liferaft locker. I've wondered if there is a slow leak from one
of the copper fresh water pipes which I cannot access. I've
isolated 3 of 6, and still have slow leak, bilge pump cycles once
every 2-3 day. I plan to continue to isolate those pipes to see if
I can isolate the leak. Any ideas for source and repair?

I owned an 82 Maramu (Hull 102) for 16 years before switching to a
SuperMaramu in 2001 and had a similar leak. The water pipes for the forward head run
through a PVC pipe that goes through the bilge compartments just to the port side
of the keel, While in Japan I had a fresh water leak similar to what you
describe. After isolating various pipes and checking the cycle time of the
freshwater pump, I traced the leak to the copper coldwater pipe to the foward head.
Since the pipe was in the PVC pipe I could not access or replace it, so I
decided to bypass it using a flexible hose. When I cut into the PVC pipe I was very
lucky to discover a very small crack in the coppper pipe, almost certainly
caused by freezing. So, instead of bypassing the entire pipe I just replaced a
small section. Problem solved.

Hope this helps.

Charlie
S/V MALAIKA II
Barcelona, SPAIN

Bob,

I have purchased a Mastervolt 24/100 charger ($2000.00) with remote
control panel that allows for adjustment of the power output. I have
not installed it yet. I plan to keep the existing NEMO 50 amp charger
as a backup and as a 110 volt charger in case I end up somewhere that I
can't get access to 220 volt power. The NEMO has an internal jumper
that switches the unit between 230V and 115V power. The boat is
currently on the hard and the only power is 115V.

I considered purchasing two Dolphin 50 amp SM2450-3 D chargers. They
are made in France. They have some nice features, including a winter
storage and desulphation program. I did not select these because they
are new models and I was concerned that they might not work well in
parallel.

Paul S. Fruehauf "Faraway Eyes" SM 215

Thanks for the quick responses, I guess it's going to be Mastervolt.
I will check their website.
Paul, I can't help regrding the wiring run as my SM is the older
version where batteries are in the engine room.
Bob

Hi Bob,

I have just replaced my charger on my SM by a Mastervolt 24/50. Mastervolt
seems to be among of the best products as far as I heard.
The maritime electrical specialist in Italy told me, that normally he is
installing a charger of about 10% of the installed battery capacity.
So I have 400amps, e.g. 50amps charger should be ok in my case. I made good
experience so far with this new Mastervolt (the 24/50 is costing about
1700$. If you buy 2, the cost will definitely be higher that for 1.
By the way, I have not yet installed the new cable for the temperature
sensor. The old cable has different conectors and the way through the boat
to the batteries is seemingly sealed waterproof. I do not want to make a
hole just for the purpose of this sensor. I would be interested to know how
you will solve that minor problem.

Regards
Paul SM 227


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Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. März 2005 01:42
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: [Amel Yacht Owners] Battery Charger


I need to replace the original battery chargeron Minaxi SM 6, one of
the 1st. It only had one 30amp charger, the newer boats I believe
have two. Can anyone advise me if two really are better than one and
is there an American make obtainable here in the USA or should I go
back to Amel and have 1 or 2 shipped over?

Regards
to Vito wherever you are.

Bob






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Hi Bob
I have replaced mine by a Mastervolt 100 Amp. To my opinion and experience a capacity of 60 amp is too small. The benefit of splitting 100 amp into 2x50 is that when you are connected to a pontoon which cannot take a big electrical load you can avoid trigging the pontoon circuit breaker by using only one charger. Personally I prefer to use the 100 amp and regulate the charger through the Mastervolt charger from 0 to 100 amp. This regulator is not provided with the charger and has to be purshased separately. You will find all the information on Mastervolt web site

With best regards
Erick

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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Battery Charger
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 00:42:24 -0000


I need to replace the original battery chargeron Minaxi SM 6, one of
the 1st. It only had one 30amp charger, the newer boats I believe
have two. Can anyone advise me if two really are better than one and
is there an American make obtainable here in the USA or should I go
back to Amel and have 1 or 2 shipped over?

Regards
to Vito wherever you are.

Bob

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I need to replace the original battery chargeron Minaxi SM 6, one of
the 1st. It only had one 30amp charger, the newer boats I believe
have two. Can anyone advise me if two really are better than one and
is there an American make obtainable here in the USA or should I go
back to Amel and have 1 or 2 shipped over?

Regards
to Vito wherever you are.

Bob

Would anyone know the production dates for the Mango that was
fitted with the 2nd generation Nirvana masts and furler? I
understand that this rig is imroved over the first series. Also, as
I am interested in purchasing a Mango, are there other major
equipment or manufacturing changes during the production run that I
should look for or limit myself to? For instance I think the masts
mentioned above were fitted to 1987 boats and later.
Your help and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
James

Walter,
Thanks for the quick reply. We'll check with AMEL.

How are things back home? MACCABEE arrived home last May and although we are still living aboard, we are quite adapted back to a "land" existence. I am currently on the last day of a 14 day teaching delivery to the Virgin Islands from Florida.

Regards to your wife and family.

Steve Leeds
Yacht MACCABEE



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Charlie,
Thanks for your quick response! We'll give it a try.

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Steve,
We had exactly the same problems on our 2002 SMM. It started after we
snagged the bow thruster on a mooring lint. Amel was pretty sure it was the
brushes, and the sent us a new motor because it was still under warranty.
However, extra brushes are usually included in the standard spare parts that
comes with the boat, and there should be some instructions in the manual or
send an email to Amel.

Walter Lundstrom
Ex. Owner LINNEA
Hull no. 366


After that, we were p

Steve

I am currently sailing on SPIRIT GUIDE, a 2002 Super Maramu #348 (ex-
CHANCE), owed by Matthew and Lori Moore. We have just started
experiencing a problem with the drop and lift motor of the bow
thruster. The bow thruster won't go down by itself after operating
the cockpit switch unless we give the lift motor/electrical box a
sharp tap then it operates as usual. It also sticks in the down
position. We have checked all the wire terminals in the attached
control box and believe all the wires to be OK and the connections
good. The motor itself seems to require special tools to check the
brushes.

We suspect either the motor brushes or relay in the control box to
be the problem.

Has anyone else expirienced this type of problem?

Steve Leeds
Yacht MACCABEE
Sharki #121

Steve,

We had a similar experience a year or so ago with our SM 336, MALAIKA II. It
turned out that one of the microswitches had slipped out of adjustment causing
the safety interlock to stop the bowthruster motor from operating. AMEL sent
us a series of patterns for the lights on the sensors (fully up, raising,
lowering, fully down) and we were easily able to readjust the switches.

Good luck,
Charlie
S/V MALAIKA II
Marina Port Vell
Barcelona, SPAIN

Greetings to the Amel network

May we, as hopeful purchasers of a Supermaramu, ask if anyone could assist us with the purchase price in 1994 of a new (standard) Supermaramu.

We'd be most grateful for any assistance you might be able to offer.

In anticipation -

The McGuires

25 Feb 2005

Thanks to everyone who ordered impeller pullers. I have had a bunch
made up and will be shipping them shortly. Please let me know how
these work for you or any ideas for improvement. I am sending one
to Joel to see if he could have them made in France and provided to
each new Amel owner. I have also fabricated some thumb screws for
the impeller covers so that the cover can be removed by hand without
having to fumble with tools. I'll post some pictures of those as
well.

Regards, Gary Silver s/v Liahona SM # 335

My first Oyster 435 was severely damaged in Hurricane Bob in 1991 in
Newport,Rhode Island.Unfortunately it did not sink as that would
have simplified the insurance claim and saved me nearly two years of
aggravation. If I had had a high output automatic bilge pump it
would have saved the engine etc PERHAPS because....
The boat dragged its mooring across the harbour and ended up
crashing on a pontoon and pile which holed the hull near the
toerail.The ingress of sea water coupled with the fact that the
crashing and the water opened drawers and lockers releasing paper
towels,toilet paper etc and the resulting papier mashe would almost
certainly have clogged any bilge pump.
Perhaps the moral is to have a high output elecric pump and auto
switch permanently secured and plumbed in the engine room and never
to leave paper towels etc anywhere where they could break loose in
such an event.

Best wishes, Anne and John

Just a thought, The engin driven sea water pump will fail if run dry , which could happen if the action of the pump is not carefully watched, and the last thing you need in such conditions is a failed engin,

Edson make a shaft driven high capacity pump which might help if the wayer is getting deep in the engin room.
There is an article in this months "Blue Water Sailing" Magazine on just this subject

Geoff Tyers s.v."Lionheart" Sharki #127

"Paul S. Fruehauf" <fruehaufps@...> wrote:
To all,



As I mentioned in my last note my boat is new to me and I have many
questions about how to best equip the boat. We plan to do some extended
cruising this year and next. I have found the archives of this group to
be very helpful.



The discussion on bow thruster leaks reminded me of a modification I
have been considering making on my boat. I attended a seminar on
off-shore sailing and the speaker (Roger Marshall) strongly recommended
some sort of emergency bilge pump be available. I believe he mentioned
that some sort of engine driven pump is a good option. I researched
this further and found an article that suggests using the engine raw
water pump. I am considering adding a Y valve between the sea chest and
the pump inlet along with a hose and strainer that will draw from the
bilge. Has anyone done this? Has anyone come up with other solutions?
A problem with the above modification is that does not help if there is
a leak in the front, main or aft compartment. One idea would be to rig
a DC motor with pump and hoses that could be used anywhere. Lastly,
perhaps in an Amel the need for an emergency pump is less urgent because
of the water tight compartments. Any help on this topic will be greatly
appreciated.



Best regards,



Paul S. Fruehauf "Faraway Eyes" SM 215








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