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Genoa sheets

rapp.jeffrey <rapp.jeffrey@...>
 

It's me again (I just posted another message on another subject).
My genoa sheets are fraying near the clue (just the cover, not the
core). I believe they are the original sheets, attached to the clue in
a continuous line. I'd like to flip them end for end, but to do so I'd
have to cut them in the middle and make two bowlines.
Does anyone know whether there is enough excess length to do this (I
would probably need an extra 2 or 3 feet to make the bowlines)?
Thanks
Jeff
"Antares"


Downwind System

rapp.jeffrey <rapp.jeffrey@...>
 

We have owned "Antares" SM2K 378, for about a year, so we are relative
newbies(we did own a Maramu 48 20 years ago, but she was a simpler
boat). I am embarrassed to admit that we have never used the downwind
system, because putting it up seems daunting.
We have received spoken instructions from Ray Eaton, and read the Amel
manual, but we are still unsure. We have also practiced putting up the
poles, but without the sails. It seems like a lot of work on deck when
out to sea.
Is anyone willing to provide detailed, step by step instructions,
designed for the relatively ignorant, from start to finish? Also, from
reading postings on other subjects, I gather some of you actually rig
the poles in advance of needing them, leaving them rigged and
presumably secured on deck somehow. If so, could you please include
instructions on this aspect of the procedure.
We are currently in Cartagena,Colombia, a wonderful town. Don't miss it.
Thanks in advance
Jeff
"Antares"


New Photos Posted

Howard Berger
 

For those interested, I've posted pictures of our (continuing) refit of
Maramu #144. They're under the album s/v Jazz.

Best regards,
Howard Berger
s/v Jazz


onan gensat: oil filters, etc

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

Greatings from callisto sm #369. Does anyone have a source for oil
filters, fuel filters, etc. for the onan gensat. thank you peter pappas
nicaragua


Re: [Amel] bilge pump

peter pappas <pjppappas@...>
 

I replaced the flaps. I hand cut the flaps to match form a stock piece of rubber sheeting that I purchased at a hardware store. The old flaps had lost their elasticity and would not close fully. peter pappas sm 369 Puesto de sol Nicaragua

--- On Sun, 11/23/08, sailw32 <sailw32@aol.com> wrote:

From: sailw32 <sailw32@aol.com>
Subject: [Amel] bilge pump
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 3:28 PM
I have a Jabsco diaghram bilge pump.The motor is fine ,the
diaghram is
new the flaps operational and yet I have not been able to
get it to
pump water.I've primed it and done everything to no
avail.My question
is has other owners had problems with their pumps and has
anyone
changed out to some other arrangement.It seems like quite a
vertical
lift for the diameter of the hose. Thanks,Pat S/M
Shenanigans


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Re: Hurricane on Kimberlite

Howard Berger
 

Eric,

Thanks for sharing the details of your adventure, which you skippered
masterfully. We used Herb all the way to Europe and back and his
dedication is amazing. "Roger, Roger, Herb!"

Howard Berger
s/v JAZZ
Maramu 144


Hurricane on Kimberlite

eric freedman
 

Ok if I must -





We were about 350 miles southeast of New York just approaching the Gulf
Stream we expected 45 + knots to sail in which we have done many times
before. . A couple of lows came together and we were stuck. Herb Hilgenberg
asked how long it would take to get to land and I said 2 days. He said we
would have to ride it out. And to expect Survival conditions. He also said
do not enter the northerly flowing meander of the Gulf Stream. Which was 60
miles to our east. The wind built and built until we had all sails down and
launched our Jordan series drogue. (my second time-don't leave home without
it) At that time the wind was approaching 55-60 Knots. The only problem with
the drogue was that it was a little close to the backstays so we had to
watch the chafe gear carefully. I will have to re rig the backstays in the
future. On the drogue we were still making 3 - 31/2 knots to the east. We
recorded 67 knots steady wind and gusting I estimate to 75-80 Knots . As the
time went on the seas became huge and broke over the boat at least 12 times.
A number of times from the side slamming the boat over. As I am sure you
know the drogue is launched over the stern and rides stern to the waves. You
are also not able to steer the boat.



We had one person on watch at all times in case we had to cut the drogue
away to miss an oncoming ship I called a number of ships ,one as close as
one mile away and we were not seen in these seas.





The cockpit was pooped and filled many times and drained in less than 30
seconds. That Night we heard a coast guard c-130 airplane on channel 16
looking for 3 crew in the water. Later 2 were found and the skipper dead in
the life raft. The boat, a swan 44 was lost. We also heard from Bermuda
radio that two boats were abandoned near Bermuda.



The next day according to Herb the wind had blown the gulf stream over 60
miles further east, I was very concerned in entering the stream and was
happy that we had been given another 20 hour reprieve before entering the
stream.. Much later that day about 10 miles from the stream the waves
changed direction and the winds dropped to 45-50 knots. We made a bee line
south to the easterly flowing stream 60 miles away. The stream was very
Lumpy and confused when we entered but made it through. After that Herb
said that we should put into Bermuda as there was another storm coming and
my crew had been pretty beaten up.



I must say that I was very impressed with Herb Hilgenberg. He normally comes
on at 4 PM EST. He also came on the radio at 9Am to see if we made it
through the night. He did this for 3 days. It sure was good to hear a
friendly voice in that torrent.

Thanks Herb !!!



Fortunately we made 2 days of 200 miles plus and beat the next storm to
Bermuda. In fact I saw the spit Buoy very clearly as we passed east of
Bermuda. We kept trucking and beat the storm. After 6 days we finally saw
the Sun for a few hours.



We arrived in St Martin in a total of 11 days including 36 hours on a
drogue. Good time!!

Unfortunately the St Martin Lagoon Bridge was broken so we had to stay out
for a few days until it was fixed.



It seems we were the only boat that made it to The Caribbean from the
northeast at that time .



I also want to say that I had a new Doyle sail Made for my boat this fall
here in New York. It is a very strong sail and had a great shape even when
rolled to les than 50 % it is about a 110% headsail and about 10 Oz
material. I was very impressed with this Sail. I had a mail order sail made
the previous year but it did not hold up and had a lousy shape when it was
furled. I believe a heavy weather sail like this must be measured on your
boat.

I always go offshore with a heavy weather headsail. If I have light air I
put up a Gennaker or a screecher.

The only damage we suffered was that the tabs that held the doghouse
enclosure down to the cockpit sole tore due to the strong wind blowing on
it. The enclosure held even when facing into very high winds we were all
impressed as we thought it would blow out at 50 knots. Also, a number of
the Jordan series drogue cones were shredded due to the force of the water.



That's the short story.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dlm48@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 2:56 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Tayana




well you can just post that teaser and leave it like
that...................going from where to where? why were you out there in
these conditions? then what actions did you take to survive them? also
looking back what would you do differently apart from stay in port of
course?

thanks in anticipation

kindest regards

David

-----Original Message-----
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net>
e.net>
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 2:23 am
Subject: RE: [Amel] Tayana

Having have just been through Hurricane force winds last month for about 36

hours I can swear to the seaworthiness of the Amel Super Maramu #376

Kimberlite we had waves roll over the boat at least 12 times completely

submerging the cockpit and deck.. We regularly sail in 40-50 knots with no

ill effects this was the strongest winds we have ever experienced. We

recorder steady winds of 67 knots gusting to an estimated 80-85 knots. . .

Our weather forecaster said to be prepared for survival conditions. We were

the only boat between New York and Bermuda to survive the winds and huge

seas . We have been in many storms and gales. I doubt that there is any boat

that holds a candle to an Amel. During the Hurricane 3 boats went down 3

people in the water one dead.

We arrived in St Martin non stop with no damage whatsoever.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dlm48@aol.com <mailto:dlm48%40aol.com>

Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:53 PM

To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Amel] Tayana

-----Original Message-----

?Truly dont understand the question my view of Amel owners is that there is

only one boat for them and that is an Amel and even for newbies once they

have seen an Amel that is it game set and match.

regards

David

--- On Thu, 12/11/08, c_fruendt <c_fruendt@yahoo.

<mailto:c_fruendt%40yahoo.com> com> wrote:

From: c_fruendt <c_fruendt@yahoo. <mailto:c_fruendt%40yahoo.com> com>

Subject: [Amel] Tayana

To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>

yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 12:29 AM

Hi folks, as i wrote earlier i am screening the market in europe for a

Maramu or Santorin. In october i was in Antibes, only SM available

here, and by cance i good inspect a Tayana 52 which was lying next to a

SM. Ofcourse these are different boats but the price for the Tayana is

quite interesting ( half of a SM ) and the space below deck is really

nice, much better salon then a maramu. Does anyone here has any

exeprince with Tayana and can compare it to the maramu. ofcourse ketch

and slup rig are quite bif difference, tho open aft cockpit is another

on. At anchor maybe better then the amel but at sea i assume it feels

safer in the Amel etc.

Thanks for any advice


Re: [Amel] Insurance

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

I have uploaded the Allianz information in 3 files to the FILES section:
The files are named:
Velos Tropical Storm Clause.pdf
Hurricane Area Questionnaire.pdf
Allianz Policy Wording.pdf
Best,

Bill Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "svbebe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Eric,

The only contact I have is the New Zealand contact which is
melita"at"marine-insurance.co.nz

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387

htowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@> wrote:

Hi,

Do you have contact info for this company/

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:41 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Insurance




I previously posted a question regarding "Insurance" and specifically,
Allianz Yachting and Boating (UK) Insurance. I believe that I found
what I wanted to know about them and will share it with you:

According to Allianz, they are the largest insurer in Europe;
they are a $15 billion financial services company;
they insure nearly half of the world's Fortune 500 companies;
they write 2.8 billion in gross insurance premiums;
and they employ more than 2,000 people worldwide.

What was important to us was:
They saved us 32% over a Jackline policy for the same cruising area;
AND the terms of the policy are much more favorable to us than the
Jackline policy;
AND they offer a "no claims bonus" that reduces renewal premiums.

We learned of them while in New Zealand.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Gulf Harbour Marina, Auckland, New Zealand for Cyclone Season





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

amelyachtowners@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners
group.

File : /Hurricane Area Questionnaire.pdf
Uploaded by : svbebe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>
Description : Allianz Hurricane Questionare

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/files/Hurricane%20Area%20Questionnaire.pdf

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles

Regards,

svbebe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>


New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

amelyachtowners@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners
group.

File : /Velos Tropical Storm Clause.pdf
Uploaded by : svbebe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>
Description : Allianz Tropical Storm info

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/files/Velos%20Tropical%20Storm%20Clause.pdf

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles

Regards,

svbebe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>


Re: [Amel] Insurance

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

The only contact I have is the New Zealand contact which is
melita"at"marine-insurance.co.nz

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387

htowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:


Hi,

Do you have contact info for this company/

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:41 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Insurance




I previously posted a question regarding "Insurance" and specifically,
Allianz Yachting and Boating (UK) Insurance. I believe that I found
what I wanted to know about them and will share it with you:

According to Allianz, they are the largest insurer in Europe;
they are a $15 billion financial services company;
they insure nearly half of the world's Fortune 500 companies;
they write 2.8 billion in gross insurance premiums;
and they employ more than 2,000 people worldwide.

What was important to us was:
They saved us 32% over a Jackline policy for the same cruising area;
AND the terms of the policy are much more favorable to us than the
Jackline policy;
AND they offer a "no claims bonus" that reduces renewal premiums.

We learned of them while in New Zealand.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Gulf Harbour Marina, Auckland, New Zealand for Cyclone Season







Re: [Amel] Insurance

eric freedman
 

WIMPS !!!!



_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dlm48@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:05 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Insurance




here is what you need Eric

http://www.allianz- <http://www.allianz-yachts.com/> yachts.com/

BUT they dont insure people who go sailing in winds over 40 knots ;-)

regards

David

Allianz Yachting and Boating

-----Original Message-----
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net>
e.net>
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 2:05 am
Subject: RE: [Amel] Insurance

Hi,

Do you have contact info for this company/

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe

Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:41 AM

To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Amel] Insurance

I previously posted a question regarding "Insurance" and specifically,

Allianz Yachting and Boating (UK) Insurance. I believe that I found

what I wanted to know about them and will share it with you:

According to Allianz, they are the largest insurer in Europe;

they are a $15 billion financial services company;

they insure nearly half of the world's Fortune 500 companies;

they write 2.8 billion in gross insurance premiums;

and they employ more than 2,000 people worldwide.

What was important to us was:

They saved us 32% over a Jackline policy for the same cruising area;

AND the terms of the policy are much more favorable to us than the

Jackline policy;

AND they offer a "no claims bonus" that reduces renewal premiums.

We learned of them while in New Zealand.

Best,

Bill

s/v BeBe SM2 #387

Gulf Harbour Marina, Auckland, New Zealand for Cyclone Season


Re: [Amel] Main Traveler and Genoa Tracks

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Dave, if you are looking to parts for the org traveler you may want to go directly to Goiot or Amel as we have found using Rig Rite to be a big pain with long long delays and high prices.
fairwinds
Richard on Challenge SM 209

--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Dave Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Dave Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Main Traveler and Genoa Tracks
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 12:33 PM
Tom,

The previous owner of our Maramu retrofitted a Harken
traveller system. After a few days offshore one the fittings
he fabricated failed resulting in the whole thing sliding
off to leeward and jamming.

We are weighing our options at this point. One thing we are
actively considering is to go back to using the original
track but replacing all the hardware. Rig-Rite here in the
US sells the Goiot hardware. If we do that we will be
selling our Harken setup.

So if you do decide to retrofit Harken drop me a line
before you buy the hardware. The Harken stuff is in great
shape and we will sell it for about half the cost of new.

I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has
retrofitted a Harken system.

Cheers,
Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29
www.IslandPlanetSails.com



--- On Fri, 12/12/08, grenville19
<fishert@kgh.kari.net> wrote:

From: grenville19 <fishert@kgh.kari.net>
Subject: [Amel] Main Traveler and Genoa Tracks
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 7:44 AM
Hello everyone,

I am in the process of re-fitting my Sharki #142 and
have
decided to
re-knew the main traveler, track and components. Does
anyone have any
experience with this. I have elected to go with Harken
conponents but
my main concern is determining how the bolts are
secured
within the
deck. I have removed the interior wood work and found
that
they do
not extend through into the cabin. Are there nuts and
washers or a
threaded backing plate encapsulated within the deck?
Any
details or
experiences with this would be greatly appreciated.

In addition, any experiences with fastening the the
Genoa
track to
deck would also be helpfull as it appears I will be
removing it in
the near future to re-seal a bolt hole where a leak
has
developed.

Thanks,
Tom Fisher
"SHEILA"
Sharki #142
Kingston, Canada


Re: [Amel] Insurance

dlm48@...
 

here is what you need Eric

http://www.allianz-yachts.com/

BUT they dont insure people who go sailing in winds over 40 knots ;-)

regards

David




Allianz Yachting and Boating

-----Original Message-----
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 2:05 am
Subject: RE: [Amel] Insurance

























Hi,



Do you have contact info for this company/



Fair Winds,



Eric



Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



_____



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe

Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:41 AM

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Amel] Insurance



I previously posted a question regarding "Insurance" and specifically,

Allianz Yachting and Boating (UK) Insurance. I believe that I found

what I wanted to know about them and will share it with you:



According to Allianz, they are the largest insurer in Europe;

they are a $15 billion financial services company;

they insure nearly half of the world's Fortune 500 companies;

they write 2.8 billion in gross insurance premiums;

and they employ more than 2,000 people worldwide.



What was important to us was:

They saved us 32% over a Jackline policy for the same cruising area;

AND the terms of the policy are much more favorable to us than the

Jackline policy;

AND they offer a "no claims bonus" that reduces renewal premiums.



We learned of them while in New Zealand.



Best,



Bill

s/v BeBe SM2 #387

Gulf Harbour Marina, Auckland, New Zealand for Cyclone Season


Re: [Amel] Tayana

dlm48@...
 

well you can just post that teaser and leave it like that...................going from where to where? why were you out there in these conditions? then what actions did you take to survive them? also looking back what would you do differently apart from stay in port of course?

thanks in anticipation

kindest regards

David

-----Original Message-----
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 2:23 am
Subject: RE: [Amel] Tayana

























Having have just been through Hurricane force winds last month for about 36

hours I can swear to the seaworthiness of the Amel Super Maramu #376

Kimberlite we had waves roll over the boat at least 12 times completely

submerging the cockpit and deck.. We regularly sail in 40-50 knots with no

ill effects this was the strongest winds we have ever experienced. We

recorder steady winds of 67 knots gusting to an estimated 80-85 knots. . .

Our weather forecaster said to be prepared for survival conditions. We were

the only boat between New York and Bermuda to survive the winds and huge

seas . We have been in many storms and gales. I doubt that there is any boat

that holds a candle to an Amel. During the Hurricane 3 boats went down 3

people in the water one dead.



We arrived in St Martin non stop with no damage whatsoever.



Fair Winds,



Eric



Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



_____



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dlm48@aol.com

Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:53 PM

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Amel] Tayana



-----Original Message-----



?Truly dont understand the question my view of Amel owners is that there is

only one boat for them and that is an Amel and even for newbies once they

have seen an Amel that is it game set and match.



regards



David



--- On Thu, 12/11/08, c_fruendt <c_fruendt@yahoo.

<mailto:c_fruendt%40yahoo.com> com> wrote:



From: c_fruendt <c_fruendt@yahoo. <mailto:c_fruendt%40yahoo.com> com>



Subject: [Amel] Tayana



To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>

yahoogroups.com



Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 12:29 AM



Hi folks, as i wrote earlier i am screening the market in europe for a



Maramu or Santorin. In october i was in Antibes, only SM available



here, and by cance i good inspect a Tayana 52 which was lying next to a



SM. Ofcourse these are different boats but the price for the Tayana is



quite interesting ( half of a SM ) and the space below deck is really



nice, much better salon then a maramu. Does anyone here has any



exeprince with Tayana and can compare it to the maramu. ofcourse ketch



and slup rig are quite bif difference, tho open aft cockpit is another



on. At anchor maybe better then the amel but at sea i assume it feels



safer in the Amel etc.



Thanks for any advice


Re: [Amel] Main Traveler and Genoa Tracks

Fisher, Thomas W.
 

HI Dave,

Thanks for the offer unfortunately I have already ordered the replacements. Our Sharki was originally out fitted with Lewmar components and I had originally planned to use lewmar again however a track size to fit the existing holes and space is no longer available. The Harken products will fit the bolt layout and the track is the correct length. I have oversized all the components so hopefully everthing will hold up. Do you have any idea how the track is secured within the deck?

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dave Benjamin
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 12:34
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Main Traveler and Genoa Tracks



Tom,

The previous owner of our Maramu retrofitted a Harken traveller system. After a few days offshore one the fittings he fabricated failed resulting in the whole thing sliding off to leeward and jamming.

We are weighing our options at this point. One thing we are actively considering is to go back to using the original track but replacing all the hardware. Rig-Rite here in the US sells the Goiot hardware. If we do that we will be selling our Harken setup.

So if you do decide to retrofit Harken drop me a line before you buy the hardware. The Harken stuff is in great shape and we will sell it for about half the cost of new.

I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has retrofitted a Harken system.

Cheers,
Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29
www.IslandPlanetSails.com

--- On Fri, 12/12/08, grenville19 < fishert@kgh. <mailto:fishert%40kgh.kari.net> kari.net> wrote:

From: grenville19 < fishert@kgh. <mailto:fishert%40kgh.kari.net> kari.net>
Subject: [Amel] Main Traveler and Genoa Tracks
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 7:44 AM
Hello everyone,

I am in the process of re-fitting my Sharki #142 and have
decided to
re-knew the main traveler, track and components. Does
anyone have any
experience with this. I have elected to go with Harken
conponents but
my main concern is determining how the bolts are secured
within the
deck. I have removed the interior wood work and found that
they do
not extend through into the cabin. Are there nuts and
washers or a
threaded backing plate encapsulated within the deck? Any
details or
experiences with this would be greatly appreciated.

In addition, any experiences with fastening the the Genoa
track to
deck would also be helpfull as it appears I will be
removing it in
the near future to re-seal a bolt hole where a leak has
developed.

Thanks,
Tom Fisher
"SHEILA"
Sharki #142
Kingston, Canada


Re: [Amel] Main Traveler and Genoa Tracks

Dave_Benjamin
 

Tom,

The previous owner of our Maramu retrofitted a Harken traveller system. After a few days offshore one the fittings he fabricated failed resulting in the whole thing sliding off to leeward and jamming.

We are weighing our options at this point. One thing we are actively considering is to go back to using the original track but replacing all the hardware. Rig-Rite here in the US sells the Goiot hardware. If we do that we will be selling our Harken setup.

So if you do decide to retrofit Harken drop me a line before you buy the hardware. The Harken stuff is in great shape and we will sell it for about half the cost of new.

I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has retrofitted a Harken system.

Cheers,
Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29
www.IslandPlanetSails.com

--- On Fri, 12/12/08, grenville19 <fishert@kgh.kari.net> wrote:

From: grenville19 <fishert@kgh.kari.net>
Subject: [Amel] Main Traveler and Genoa Tracks
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 7:44 AM
Hello everyone,

I am in the process of re-fitting my Sharki #142 and have
decided to
re-knew the main traveler, track and components. Does
anyone have any
experience with this. I have elected to go with Harken
conponents but
my main concern is determining how the bolts are secured
within the
deck. I have removed the interior wood work and found that
they do
not extend through into the cabin. Are there nuts and
washers or a
threaded backing plate encapsulated within the deck? Any
details or
experiences with this would be greatly appreciated.

In addition, any experiences with fastening the the Genoa
track to
deck would also be helpfull as it appears I will be
removing it in
the near future to re-seal a bolt hole where a leak has
developed.

Thanks,
Tom Fisher
"SHEILA"
Sharki #142
Kingston, Canada


Amel's in Storm vs Tayana

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Eric, thanks for the proof of IT>>!!. Great story. Our two storms in our Amel Maramu in 2005 crossing from Europe (Delta and Epsilon) didn't blow that hard but close. We had seas on deck in crossing swells with NO issues for the boat or crew. Five days of blow and nothing broken. A good friend coming north from the ABC's in a 50 Tayana had the bulkhead break through the hull and he almost lost it all. They had to screw sheets of plywood to the hull and keep the pumps running to get back to safe harbor. It took a year of working every day to get her back to sea... the inside of the boat was a mess..
Here we sit in Corsica safe and sound... Glad to have an Amel..
Richard and Joan SM 209 Challenge


Main Traveler and Genoa Tracks

Fisher, Thomas W.
 

Hello everyone,

I am in the process of re-fitting my Sharki #142 and have decided to
re-knew the main traveler, track and components. Does anyone have any
experience with this. I have elected to go with Harken conponents but
my main concern is determining how the bolts are secured within the
deck. I have removed the interior wood work and found that they do
not extend through into the cabin. Are there nuts and washers or a
threaded backing plate encapsulated within the deck? Any details or
experiences with this would be greatly appreciated.

In addition, any experiences with fastening the the Genoa track to
deck would also be helpfull as it appears I will be removing it in
the near future to re-seal a bolt hole where a leak has developed.

Thanks,
Tom Fisher
"SHEILA"
Sharki #142
Kingston, Canada


Re: {Disarmed} RE: [Amel] Tayana

John and Anne Hollamby <annejohn@...>
 

Hi Eric,
You have convinced me but I do not want to test it!
Happy Christmas, Anne and John

----- Original Message -----
From: kimberlite
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:23 AM
Subject: {Disarmed} RE: [Amel] Tayana


Having have just been through Hurricane force winds last month for about 36
hours I can swear to the seaworthiness of the Amel Super Maramu #376
Kimberlite we had waves roll over the boat at least 12 times completely
submerging the cockpit and deck.. We regularly sail in 40-50 knots with no
ill effects this was the strongest winds we have ever experienced. We
recorder steady winds of 67 knots gusting to an estimated 80-85 knots. . .
Our weather forecaster said to be prepared for survival conditions. We were
the only boat between New York and Bermuda to survive the winds and huge
seas . We have been in many storms and gales. I doubt that there is any boat
that holds a candle to an Amel. During the Hurricane 3 boats went down 3
people in the water one dead.

We arrived in St Martin non stop with no damage whatsoever.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dlm48@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:53 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Tayana

-----Original Message-----

?Truly dont understand the question my view of Amel owners is that there is
only one boat for them and that is an Amel and even for newbies once they
have seen an Amel that is it game set and match.

regards

David

--- On Thu, 12/11/08, c_fruendt <c_fruendt@yahoo.
<mailto:c_fruendt%40yahoo.com> com> wrote:

From: c_fruendt <c_fruendt@yahoo. <mailto:c_fruendt%40yahoo.com> com>

Subject: [Amel] Tayana

To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 12:29 AM

Hi folks, as i wrote earlier i am screening the market in europe for a

Maramu or Santorin. In october i was in Antibes, only SM available

here, and by cance i good inspect a Tayana 52 which was lying next to a

SM. Ofcourse these are different boats but the price for the Tayana is

quite interesting ( half of a SM ) and the space below deck is really

nice, much better salon then a maramu. Does anyone here has any

exeprince with Tayana and can compare it to the maramu. ofcourse ketch

and slup rig are quite bif difference, tho open aft cockpit is another

on. At anchor maybe better then the amel but at sea i assume it feels

safer in the Amel etc.

Thanks for any advice












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