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Re: Darn Batteries

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...>
wrote:

Hello group,

I own SM#266. About six months ago I talked with the Amel factory
and discussed my battery / charger problems. They assured me that
I
needed to replace my current batteries. I did that in St. Maartin,
new wet cells. Same problem as before. We sailed to Guadaloupe
and
talked to Amel there. We were directed to Pouchon. The man at
Pouchon said that our battery charger (Nemo 50) was defective. I
told him to fix it, he said no, it was too old (1999) there were no
parts. He sold me and installed a new Dolphin 100 amp. charger.
New
batteries, new charger same old problem.

Problem;

Charger works fine, charges batteries to 27.3 volts and then
quits.
I just talked to Rolls Batteries, and they said I needed to be able
to charge to 28.4 to prevent "deficet charging" and to 31 volts to
de-
sulfate the batteries.

The batteries show 100% charge (Mastervolt) and 27.3 volts and will
stay like that with the charger going for as long as I leave it.
As
soon as the charger is off line the voltage drops to 25.6 and
starts
dropping until I charge the batteries again. Currently I must run
the generator two to three times a day to keep up with the demand.

When using the main engine and 80 amp 24 volt alternator, the same
things happens, the charge stops at 27.3 volts and about 3 - 5
aamps.

Question: Is there an Amel voltage regulator that gets both the
charger and alternator current? Where is it? Can it be adjusted?
I
have talked with Denis at Dolphin and it does not seem that my
charger has mulitple programs, so I can not use it to "equalize" my
batteries.

Any comments?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM 266


Darn Batteries

Ag Av8ter
 

Hello group,

I own SM#266. About six months ago I talked with the Amel factory
and discussed my battery / charger problems. They assured me that I
needed to replace my current batteries. I did that in St. Maartin,
new wet cells. Same problem as before. We sailed to Guadaloupe and
talked to Amel there. We were directed to Pouchon. The man at
Pouchon said that our battery charger (Nemo 50) was defective. I
told him to fix it, he said no, it was too old (1999) there were no
parts. He sold me and installed a new Dolphin 100 amp. charger. New
batteries, new charger same old problem.

Problem;

Charger works fine, charges batteries to 27.3 volts and then quits.
I just talked to Rolls Batteries, and they said I needed to be able
to charge to 28.4 to prevent "deficet charging" and to 31 volts to de-
sulfate the batteries.

The batteries show 100% charge (Mastervolt) and 27.3 volts and will
stay like that with the charger going for as long as I leave it. As
soon as the charger is off line the voltage drops to 25.6 and starts
dropping until I charge the batteries again. Currently I must run
the generator two to three times a day to keep up with the demand.

When using the main engine and 80 amp 24 volt alternator, the same
things happens, the charge stops at 27.3 volts and about 3 - 5 aamps.

Question: Is there an Amel voltage regulator that gets both the
charger and alternator current? Where is it? Can it be adjusted? I
have talked with Denis at Dolphin and it does not seem that my
charger has mulitple programs, so I can not use it to "equalize" my
batteries.

Any comments?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM 266


Mango

George Volos
 

Hi everyone
I'm off next week to view a 1982 Mango for sale in France. Any tips on
what to look for? Weak points? Any info on these boats would be really
helpfull. Perhaps some of you would be willing to share your thoughts
with me.
Happy sailing!


Message sending

George Volos
 

Dear Sir,
I would like to have the option of posting messages on this group.
Thank you very much.


George Volos
Athens Greece


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Water Slapping Noise

wgehrich
 

There's a slap silencer on a N/M 43 here in South Florida. I asked
the owner about it and he swears by it; he's been using it for years.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Peacock <peacock@...>
wrote:

Hi Pat,

That's a problem with most every reverse transom boat; there is a
product called Slap Silencer which claims to reduce the noise
level;
it's a piece of canvas that you attach when you're in dock, and
remove when you sail. I have no personal experience with it, but
almost bought one for my previous boat, which was much noisier
than a
SM.

Tom
Aletes SM#240

On Mar 4, 2007, at 8:46 PM, sailw32 wrote:

Has anyone found a satisfactory solution to the slapping noise
created
when water hits the hull of the aft cabin. It can be quite noisy
and I
am considering insulating the aft section inside the hull. Has
anyone
insulated this section and did it have any effect on noise
reduction?

Pat
Shenanigans
SM#123




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Water Slapping Noise

Thomas Peacock <peacock@...>
 

Hi Pat,

That's a problem with most every reverse transom boat; there is a
product called Slap Silencer which claims to reduce the noise level;
it's a piece of canvas that you attach when you're in dock, and
remove when you sail. I have no personal experience with it, but
almost bought one for my previous boat, which was much noisier than a
SM.

Tom
Aletes SM#240

On Mar 4, 2007, at 8:46 PM, sailw32 wrote:

Has anyone found a satisfactory solution to the slapping noise created
when water hits the hull of the aft cabin. It can be quite noisy and I
am considering insulating the aft section inside the hull. Has anyone
insulated this section and did it have any effect on noise reduction?

Pat
Shenanigans
SM#123



Aft Cabin Water Slapping Noise

Patrick McAneny
 

Has anyone found a satisfactory solution to the slapping noise created
when water hits the hull of the aft cabin. It can be quite noisy and I
am considering insulating the aft section inside the hull. Has anyone
insulated this section and did it have any effect on noise reduction?

Pat
Shenanigans
SM#123


rating

brgdebakker
 

Hello,

I'm curious to know if anyone knows the IRC rating or any other race
rating for an Amel Kirk. I'm planning on joining a racing circuit in
the Netherlands.

Kind regards,

Bart de Bakker, Amel Kirk 146 Folie à Deux


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] STERN ANCHOR OF SUPER MARAMU 2000

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Peter, i agree with Ed about the Fortress anchor. He has the large one that can be used as a primary anchor. I got only a 10 lb. one as i only use it as a stern anchor to swing the stern around in rolly anchorages. I have 3 primary anchors in the bow, but i sure don't want to set them or try to retrive them from a dinghy. Also buy or make a cavass bag to hold the anchor in, along with about 10 feet of chain. You can put the anchor together in 5 minutes. 7/16 or 1/2 inch line is all i use. we're leaving Panama next week. My wife went to a 3 week school in Antiigua, Guatemala to learn spanish. She loved it. Life should be much easier now. John "Moondog" SM 248


From: "pjppappas" <pjppappas@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] STERN ANCHOR OF SUPER MARAMU 2000
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:10:37 -0000

Does anyone have a recommedation for ground tackle to serve as a stern
anchor for a super maramu 2000. thank you peter pappas "Callisto" #369
Peurto Vallata, Mexico
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] STERN ANCHOR OF SUPER MARAMU 2000

gwollenberg <gary@...>
 

Has anybody tried the Bull Anchor? See the following web site
http://www.noteco.com/Anchor-Home.html

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Steele" <edmundsteele@...>
wrote:

We have had good luck with a Fortress FX-55 on mixed rode with 10
meters of chain. The FX-55 is light enough to deploy and retrieve from
a dinghy if necessary, although a tripping line is highly recommended.
Ed Steele
SV DoodleBug (SM#331)
www.sv-doodlebug.com



Re: STERN ANCHOR OF SUPER MARAMU 2000

gwollenberg <gary@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Steele" <edmundsteele@...>
wrote:

We have had good luck with a Fortress FX-55 on mixed rode with 10
meters of chain. The FX-55 is light enough to deploy and retrieve from
a dinghy if necessary, although a tripping line is highly recommended.
Ed Steele
SV DoodleBug (SM#331)
www.sv-doodlebug.com

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] STERN ANCHOR OF SUPER MARAMU 2000

edmund_steele
 

We have had good luck with a Fortress FX-55 on mixed rode with 10 meters of chain. The FX-55 is light enough to deploy and retrieve from a dinghy if necessary, although a tripping line is highly recommended.
Ed Steele
SV DoodleBug (SM#331)
www.sv-doodlebug.com


STERN ANCHOR OF SUPER MARAMU 2000

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

Does anyone have a recommedation for ground tackle to serve as a stern
anchor for a super maramu 2000. thank you peter pappas "Callisto" #369
Peurto Vallata, Mexico


Re: Rigging Cable Covers

Giovanni TESTA
 

--Hi Ian,
you can find them ( DAVIS ) at PLASTIMO web site.
cod. 13672 8 mm
13673 10 mm
24982 12mm
so it's possible order them by a good chandler as I did in Venezia.
All the best and buon vento
Gianni TESTA
s/v EUTIKIA SM2K n 428

- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shepherd" <ocean53@...>
wrote:

Does anyone know of a European source of the white plastic cable
covers that
if over the lower shrouds to prevent sail chafe? Mine have mostly
disintegrated due to UV in the Mediterranean sun. Of course I
could buy from
Amel, but it might be more cost effective if they can be bought
locally
without incurring DHL charges.

Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rigging Cable Covers

Patrick Naegels <naegels@...>
 

Hi Ian,

you can find these items everywhere in french ship chandeleries. You can
ordrer this through the Internet.

But of course this doesn't live longer than 2 years. Even less under tropical
sun.

All the best
Patrick - SM329 Caramel
----------------------------


"Ian Shepherd" <ocean53@spidernet.com.cy> wrote:

Does anyone know of a European source of the white plastic cable covers that
if over the lower shrouds to prevent sail chafe? Mine have mostly
disintegrated due to UV in the Mediterranean sun. Of course I could buy from
Amel, but it might be more cost effective if they can be bought locally
without incurring DHL charges.

Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance values and SM2000 Yanmar engine access

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Dear Anne and John,Thanks for the info. We missed R KJ by a day but by all accounts he was in good form, heard to be singing sea shanties as he climbed back on board after a run ashore.Luckily there is a very clever English communications man, Jonathan Selby, who lives here, partly on his 33ft concrete boat and partly ashore.He fixes all the Antarctica cruise ships with weather equipment which he designs himself. He sorted out all KJs problems in record time.
We set sail this week to follow in his wake, as least as far as Uruguay.
Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ushuaia


From: "John and Anne on Bali Hai" <annejohn@melita.net.mt>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance values and SM2000 Yanmar engine access
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:43:54 -0000

Hello Ian and Judy,
Noone else came back on insurance values so I have left it at 265k
although I suspect this might be on the high side. The valation I got
a year ago was from Simon Turner of Berthon's Mallorca office when he
was giving me some advice on the value of my berth in Club de Mar
which I would like to sell. His address berthonatocea.es
I had a problem starting my engine whilst we were in Turkey last year
which was intermittent failure of the solenoid on the starboard (hard
to get at) side of the engine. I found a very competent mechanic who
found the problem but in the process found a lot of scale in the
seawater pipe from the big inlet filter. I had never cleaned out the
heat exchanger and was surprised to see that there are three of them.
The first one is for the hydraulic clutch and that was nearly blocked
with loose scale thus limiting the flow to the other two and the
water pump. Surprisingly the engine had not been overheating. The
next one is the main one and he removed that after pulling the
exhaust pipe forward to get it out. This made access to that side of
the engine very easy so he changed the impellor. The third unit is
just behind the turbo which it cools.
I should also mention that he found that the big rubber seal which
should be at the bottom of the filter was missing thus allowing small
stuff to bypass the filter. Noone but me had ever opened this filter
so I guess that it has always beeen like that! It is about three
inches in diameter so hard to overlook.
I have to say that I was glad that he did all that as it was quite a
big job although his bill for 1400 euros seemed impressive.
Did you get to meet my friend Robin Knox Johnson when he stopped for
repairs at Ushu??? a week ago?

Best wishes, Anne and John SM319





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Rigging Cable Covers

Ian Shepherd <ocean53@...>
 

Does anyone know of a European source of the white plastic cable covers that
if over the lower shrouds to prevent sail chafe? Mine have mostly
disintegrated due to UV in the Mediterranean sun. Of course I could buy from
Amel, but it might be more cost effective if they can be bought locally
without incurring DHL charges.

Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access

wgehrich
 

Thanks to all who have responded to my multiple questions. The
Amels are wonderful boats made even more appealling by the resource
this forum provides.

While I was more focussed on identifying the yoga pose that would
contort my way to engine access, I hadn't considered embracing the
idea of prone maintenance atop the engine. However, a two inch body
cushion might make that palatable. Plenty of boats were made with
cabin sole engine access that requires this anyway. Thanks Eric and
Dave for that insight.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lindholm
<etlindholm@...> wrote:

Like David I have a pad that I use to make laying on the engine to
work on it more comfortable. I actualy had a cushion made that is
approx three and a half feet long by eighteen inchs wide two inches
thick that I leave on top of the engine all the time, with no damage
to it. It is covered in a heavy fabric, and I just remove the
padding and wash it every once in a while.

Eric Maramu 105

David Wallace <svairops@...> wrote:
I carry a rolled-up 3' x 3' piece of 1/4" EPDM that I
lay over the engine if
I have to work on it while it's hot. It's still pretty warm but
enables me
to work on things without getting burned. Our Maramu has the
original
Perkins 4-154 and the underway maintenance at the front of the
engine has
been almost exclusively limited to the raw water pump, which
fortunately can
be accessed without bear hugging the engine. But we once blew out
the raw
water pump v-belt, which unfortunately was number 3 inwards on the
drive
shaft multiple pulley, so had to remove two other belts to replace
the
broken one. That did require laying on the engine, and I was very
glad for
the EPDM then.

Dave
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104

From: "wgehrich" <gdehrich@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:42:28 -0000

I inspected a 1985 Maramu today and was extremely impressed with
almost every aspect of the design and construction. The one thing
that troubles me is access to the front of the engine and access
to
the deep bilge. I am 6'1" 210 lbs and could only reach the front
mounted alternator and pumps by bear hugging the engine (not a fun
prospect on a hot engine). There seemed to be no way I could reach
into the bilge.

Is there a trick I am missing or do you just have to be smaller of
frame to get to the front of the engine? Also, how to you remove a
dropped item from the bilge or change the bilge pump and/or
switch?

I also noticed that there was maybe 8"-10" of shaft between the
transmission and shaft seal and the engine bedding looked it
continued
10" aft. Seems unlikely, but I was wondering if this sounds
typical
or if the (original) engine could have been mounted unusually far
forward.

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Insurance values and SM2000 Yanmar engine access

John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
 

Hello Ian and Judy,
Noone else came back on insurance values so I have left it at £265k
although I suspect this might be on the high side. The valation I got
a year ago was from Simon Turner of Berthon's Mallorca office when he
was giving me some advice on the value of my berth in Club de Mar
which I would like to sell. His address berthonatocea.es
I had a problem starting my engine whilst we were in Turkey last year
which was intermittent failure of the solenoid on the starboard (hard
to get at) side of the engine. I found a very competent mechanic who
found the problem but in the process found a lot of scale in the
seawater pipe from the big inlet filter. I had never cleaned out the
heat exchanger and was surprised to see that there are three of them.
The first one is for the hydraulic clutch and that was nearly blocked
with loose scale thus limiting the flow to the other two and the
water pump. Surprisingly the engine had not been overheating. The
next one is the main one and he removed that after pulling the
exhaust pipe forward to get it out. This made access to that side of
the engine very easy so he changed the impellor. The third unit is
just behind the turbo which it cools.
I should also mention that he found that the big rubber seal which
should be at the bottom of the filter was missing thus allowing small
stuff to bypass the filter. Noone but me had ever opened this filter
so I guess that it has always beeen like that! It is about three
inches in diameter so hard to overlook.
I have to say that I was glad that he did all that as it was quite a
big job although his bill for 1400 euros seemed impressive.
Did you get to meet my friend Robin Knox Johnson when he stopped for
repairs at Ushu??? a week ago?

Best wishes, Anne and John SM319


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access

Eric Lindholm
 

Like David I have a pad that I use to make laying on the engine to work on it more comfortable. I actualy had a cushion made that is approx three and a half feet long by eighteen inchs wide two inches thick that I leave on top of the engine all the time, with no damage to it. It is covered in a heavy fabric, and I just remove the padding and wash it every once in a while.

Eric Maramu 105

David Wallace <svairops@hotmail.com> wrote:
I carry a rolled-up 3' x 3' piece of 1/4" EPDM that I lay over the engine if
I have to work on it while it's hot. It's still pretty warm but enables me
to work on things without getting burned. Our Maramu has the original
Perkins 4-154 and the underway maintenance at the front of the engine has
been almost exclusively limited to the raw water pump, which fortunately can
be accessed without bear hugging the engine. But we once blew out the raw
water pump v-belt, which unfortunately was number 3 inwards on the drive
shaft multiple pulley, so had to remove two other belts to replace the
broken one. That did require laying on the engine, and I was very glad for
the EPDM then.

Dave
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104

From: "wgehrich" <gdehrich@mail.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:42:28 -0000

I inspected a 1985 Maramu today and was extremely impressed with
almost every aspect of the design and construction. The one thing
that troubles me is access to the front of the engine and access to
the deep bilge. I am 6'1" 210 lbs and could only reach the front
mounted alternator and pumps by bear hugging the engine (not a fun
prospect on a hot engine). There seemed to be no way I could reach
into the bilge.

Is there a trick I am missing or do you just have to be smaller of
frame to get to the front of the engine? Also, how to you remove a
dropped item from the bilge or change the bilge pump and/or switch?

I also noticed that there was maybe 8"-10" of shaft between the
transmission and shaft seal and the engine bedding looked it continued
10" aft. Seems unlikely, but I was wondering if this sounds typical
or if the (original) engine could have been mounted unusually far
forward.

__________________________________________________________
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