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Re: [Amel] 2 Burner Eno cooker

Dave_Benjamin
 

Rather than replace the metal tubing perhaps you can convert to flexible hose? We got rid of the Eno completely in favor of a new Force 10. On an unrelated not I never understood the propane arrangement on the Maramu. There is a tiny spot for a tank in a locker outside the galley. The space is so small as to be useless. The previous owner had thrown away the tank so we had to start from scratch anyway. We put a tank in the stern locker.

--- On Thu, 6/11/09, icampbell90 <i-campbell@utvinternet.co.uk> wrote:

From: icampbell90 <i-campbell@utvinternet.co.uk>
Subject: [Amel] 2 Burner Eno cooker
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 2:26 AM

















Hi All



I have a leak in my metal delivery tubing to my Eno 2 burner cooker. I am in the UK now but the boat is in the Med. Can someone let me know the tube bore diameter. My boat Ocean Hobo is a Santorin built in 1994.

Also where can I get a replacement in UK?



Thanks



Ivan Campbell




























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Re: [Amel] Stainless Steel Lifeline Tubing

David Mackintosh <dlm48@...>
 

Welding should work fine but you should internally sleeve the junctions and
find a quality SS welder.

regards

David

2009/6/11 Mr D <dshkipin@gmail.com>



Has anyone replaced sections of the s.s. lifeline tubing by cutting and
welding in new pieces in place? I have several sections with bent tubing
that is gotta go and curious if welding method will work well or not.

Thanks!



Re: [Amel] 2 Burner Eno cooker

dlm48@...
 

CALOR...........http://www.calor.co.uk/

regards

David

-----Original Message-----
From: icampbell90 <i-campbell@utvinternet.co.uk>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:26 am
Subject: [Amel] 2 Burner Eno cooker































Hi All



I have a leak in my metal delivery tubing to my Eno 2 burner cooker. I am in the UK now but the boat is in the Med. Can someone let me know the tube bore diameter. My boat Ocean Hobo is a Santorin built in 1994.

Also where can I get a replacement in UK?



Thanks



Ivan Campbell


2 Burner Eno cooker

icampbell90 <i-campbell@...>
 

Hi All

I have a leak in my metal delivery tubing to my Eno 2 burner cooker. I am in the UK now but the boat is in the Med. Can someone let me know the tube bore diameter. My boat Ocean Hobo is a Santorin built in 1994.
Also where can I get a replacement in UK?

Thanks

Ivan Campbell


Re: Self- Steering Wind Vanes

horst.puddleduck <horst.puddleduck@...>
 

I fitted a Windpilot Pacific II on my Maramu, it works great unless the boat is overpowered in heavy gusts.

Horst

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "bobbohn" <bobbohn@...> wrote:

We have a Monitor Windvane on our Mango & it fits nicely on the transom. I still run the Neco system as I have so many spare parts for it but, would prefer the self steering on long runs.

Does your new quadrant still allow for the emergency tiller?

Redundant systems are great and having an AP behind the wheel, another on the quadrant plus a windvane sounds like triple protection from manning the wheel!

Bob & Robin
Ces't La Vie
Mango #31




--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, anniemno1 <no_reply@> wrote:

Has anyone installed a self-steering wind vane on an AMEL?

We are rebuilding a Mango (Annie M, Hull #1) and installing a Simrad RMD 300 with an AP 16 to replace the Neco system.

We would also like a secondary auto pilot but the aft end configuration of the Mango makes it somewhat difficult to install a hydraulic or linear drive system.

In addition, we would like to have a backup system that did not require electrical (or hydraulic) power.

By the way, we have had a new, one-piece, steering post quadrant designed and fabricated to replace the clamp-on fixture. We have the design in CAD format which allowed us to have the part water jet machined. Our cost was expensive (about $400) but it works great. Please let me know if you would like our CAD file and pictures (gratis).

Regards,



John and Annie
Annie M
Mango #1


Stainless Steel Lifeline Tubing

Mr D
 

Has anyone replaced sections of the s.s. lifeline tubing by cutting and welding in new pieces in place? I have several sections with bent tubing that is gotta go and curious if welding method will work well or not.

Thanks!


Re: [Amel] Re:Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and vinegar as a solution

eric freedman
 

Hi do you use full strength Muriatic Acid?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Craig & Katherine
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:28 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re:Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and
vinegar as a solution








Hi Kent,
Yes, muriatic acid is the answer! We pour about a liter in each head evry
couple or three weeks. Let it bubble up nice and brown - overnight is best -
then just flush it down. We are now 8 years on our hoses and no problemo!
Ciao, Craig


Re: Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and vinegar as a solution

karkauai
 

Hi Craig. Hope you two are well and enjoying the eastern Med. I'm "stuck" in Charleston until I can get enough time off to get her on up to the Chesapeake. Charleston's not a bad place to get stuck, tho.

Do you just use muriatic acid as it comes off the shelf or dilute it? What's the final concentration of what you pour into the head?

Thanks and Aloha to Katherine.
Kent
Kristy SM243

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Craig & Katherine" <sangaris@...> wrote:

Hi Kent,
Yes, muriatic acid is the answer! We pour about a liter in each head evry couple or three weeks. Let it bubble up nice and brown - overnight is best - then just flush it down. We are now 8 years on our hoses and no problemo!
Ciao, Craig


Re: Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and vinegar as a solution

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Kent,
Yes, muriatic acid is the answer! We pour about a liter in each head evry couple or three weeks. Let it bubble up nice and brown - overnight is best - then just flush it down. We are now 8 years on our hoses and no problemo!
Ciao, Craig


Re: [Amel] Re:Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and vinegar as a solution

karkauai
 

I'll look at that again, Richard, but the joker valve points up into the hose, right?  Not sure how the elbow into the bowl would affect that?  I'm not on the boat now, but will check again when I get back to her.
Kent
Kristy SM243

--- On Tue, 6/9/09, richard03801 <richard03801@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: richard03801 <richard03801@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re:Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and vinegar as a solution
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 8:08 PM









HI, When you changed the joker valve did you clean out the 90 deg. elbow of salt? The build up of salt/cake in the elbow will not allow the joker valve to close tight. We use baby oil to keep the hose clear and we us silicon grease on the ID of the elbow for easy cleaning later.. It works for a while but the salt always builds up over time. So every 18 months or so we change the hose. We keep two meters of 1.5 inch hose as a spare all the time... We also ask guess to put their used paper in the trash pale.. if you don't eat it fisrt it does not go in the head.. we buy brown paper lunch bags as trash can liners..
Fairwinds to all. We are now in Annapolis.
Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209
-- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, "karkauai" <karkauai@.. .> wrote:

I had the same problem of backflow into the bowl, replaced the hoses and joker valve but still had backflow into the bowl. I added a valve to the line and shut it off whenever I leave the boat. Interestingly it fills the bowl but never overflows the bowl when the boat's not rocking...I guess there's just enough in the hose to fill the bowl. Seems like the leak has finally quit and I'm not sure I need the valve any more, but I'm still going to close it off when I'm gone.

A marine head service guy told me that vinegar and oil was good for preventative maintenance, but not for clearing out clogged lines. He said some people use muriatic acid. Has anyone done that? Any luck?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243 "Kristy"


Re: Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and vinegar as a solution

richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

HI, When you changed the joker valve did you clean out the 90 deg. elbow of salt? The build up of salt/cake in the elbow will not allow the joker valve to close tight. We use baby oil to keep the hose clear and we us silicon grease on the ID of the elbow for easy cleaning later.. It works for a while but the salt always builds up over time. So every 18 months or so we change the hose. We keep two meters of 1.5 inch hose as a spare all the time... We also ask guess to put their used paper in the trash pale.. if you don't eat it fisrt it does not go in the head.. we buy brown paper lunch bags as trash can liners..
Fairwinds to all. We are now in Annapolis.
Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209

-- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "karkauai" <karkauai@...> wrote:

I had the same problem of backflow into the bowl, replaced the hoses and joker valve but still had backflow into the bowl. I added a valve to the line and shut it off whenever I leave the boat. Interestingly it fills the bowl but never overflows the bowl when the boat's not rocking...I guess there's just enough in the hose to fill the bowl. Seems like the leak has finally quit and I'm not sure I need the valve any more, but I'm still going to close it off when I'm gone.

A marine head service guy told me that vinegar and oil was good for preventative maintenance, but not for clearing out clogged lines. He said some people use muriatic acid. Has anyone done that? Any luck?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243 "Kristy"


Re: [Amel] Sharki Amel

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

If it is cable operated like the SM the cables may be getting stiff and need replacing. To test disconect them at the rudder head and swing the rudder by hand to see how free it is.
Danny SM 299

----- Original Message -----
From: lodmichel
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:49 PM
Subject: [Amel] Sharki Amel





Hi,

About Sharki.

1 Has anybody an idea why the rudder could be more hard to steer with the time? How to remedy?

2 How to process to dismantle the rudder? How much distance to be left under the rudder to have it slipping out?

3 Any address to find the originals taps from the shower?

Any help welcome. Thanks

DMichelLod


Re: Important Spare Parts for SM

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jose,

I uploaded the excel workbook to the Files section of this group website. Believe I named it "BeBe Spares."

Bill
SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, José Gabriel Venegas <jgvenegas@...> wrote:

Dear Bill,
Thank you for your prompt replay. As I am preparing for a prolonged cruise, I would very much appreciate if you could send me a copy of the exel workbook.

My e-mail is JGVENEGAS@...

Fair winds

Jose
Ipanema, SM2 #278
Marblehead, Massachusetts, USA


Sharki Amel

lodmichel <lodmichel@...>
 

Hi,

About Sharki.

1 Has anybody an idea why the rudder could be more hard to steer with the time? How to remedy?

2 How to process to dismantle the rudder? How much distance to be left under the rudder to have it slipping out?

3 Any address to find the originals taps from the shower?

Any help welcome. Thanks

DMichelLod


Re: Important Spare Parts for SM

José Gabriel Venegas <jgvenegas@...>
 

Dear Bill,
Thank you for your prompt replay. As I am preparing for a prolonged cruise, I would very much appreciate if you could send me a copy of the exel workbook.

My e-mail is JGVENEGAS@comcast.net

Fair winds

Jose
Ipanema, SM2 #278
Marblehead, Massachusetts, USA


Generator starting problems

rapp.jeffrey <rapp.jeffrey@...>
 

Hi
I have "Antares" SM2K 378.
Almost (or actually) from the time I bought her, (Oct 2007) I have had generator starting problems (Onan 7KW). Finally, about 2 months ago, the generator wouldn't start at all unless I turned on the main engine first. I did all the usual things (checked the starting battery, cleaned the connections, etc,), but no luck. I then checked all the connections with a volt meter. Long story short, I found a significant voltage drop between the battery switches in the passageway and the battery cable terminals on the generator.
The (inelegant) solution was to buy a new battery, make some cables, install the battery and box securely (it fits nicely behind the hot water heater)and disconnect the original batery cables to the generator. Now the generator starts right up immediately every time (I probably shouldn't have said that).
Some day I may try to fix the original problem (perhaps a corroded cable), but for now, I'm happy.
Anyone else ever had or heard of this particular problem?
Jeff
"Antares"


Re: [Amel] Re: Self- Steering Wind Vanes

Dave_Benjamin
 

Seems like a Hydrovane would be far better choice than Monitor on our center cockpit boats.

--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Howard Berger <svresolute@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Howard Berger <svresolute@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Self- Steering Wind Vanes
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 7:33 AM

















We had a Monitor on our previous boat, a Caliber 40 LRC. I want to fit a windvane on the Maramu we are currently rebuilding for extensive cruising, but I know from experience we often had to "dial in" adjustments to the Monitor to get it just right and this needs to be done at the unit itself. Not a problem in an aft cockpit boat such as our Caliber, but how do you adjust it from the Mango's cockpit?



I'm a big believer in redundant systems, especially windvanes, as they don't require any precious electrical resources. Our Monitor saved our bacon when the Autohelm autopilot failed the first night out of Bermuda and the Monitor steered us successfully all the way to the Azores and even through the Azores High.



Howard and Lynda Berger

s/v Jazz Maramu 144

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, "bobbohn" <bobbohn@... > wrote:

We have a Monitor Windvane on our Mango & it fits nicely on the transom. I still run the Neco system as I have so many spare parts for it but, would prefer the self steering on long runs.
Does your new quadrant still allow for the emergency tiller?
Redundant systems are great and having an AP behind the wheel, another on the quadrant plus a windvane sounds like triple protection from manning the wheel!
Bob & Robin
Ces't La Vie
Mango #31
--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, anniemno1 <no_reply@> wrote:
Has anyone installed a self-steering wind vane on an AMEL?
We are rebuilding a Mango (Annie M, Hull #1) and installing a Simrad RMD 300 with an AP 16 to replace the Neco system.
We would also like a secondary auto pilot but the aft end configuration of the Mango makes it somewhat difficult to install a hydraulic or linear drive system.
In addition, we would like to have a backup system that did not require electrical (or hydraulic) power.
By the way, we have had a new, one-piece, steering post quadrant designed and fabricated to replace the clamp-on fixture. We have the design in CAD format which allowed us to have the part water jet machined. Our cost was expensive (about $400) but it works great. Please let me know if you would like our CAD file and pictures (gratis).
Regards,
John and Annie
Annie M
Mango #1



























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Re: Self- Steering Wind Vanes

Howard Berger
 

We had a Monitor on our previous boat, a Caliber 40 LRC. I want to fit a windvane on the Maramu we are currently rebuilding for extensive cruising, but I know from experience we often had to "dial in" adjustments to the Monitor to get it just right and this needs to be done at the unit itself. Not a problem in an aft cockpit boat such as our Caliber, but how do you adjust it from the Mango's cockpit?

I'm a big believer in redundant systems, especially windvanes, as they don't require any precious electrical resources. Our Monitor saved our bacon when the Autohelm autopilot failed the first night out of Bermuda and the Monitor steered us successfully all the way to the Azores and even through the Azores High.

Howard and Lynda Berger
s/v Jazz Maramu 144

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "bobbohn" <bobbohn@...> wrote:

We have a Monitor Windvane on our Mango & it fits nicely on the transom. I still run the Neco system as I have so many spare parts for it but, would prefer the self steering on long runs.

Does your new quadrant still allow for the emergency tiller?

Redundant systems are great and having an AP behind the wheel, another on the quadrant plus a windvane sounds like triple protection from manning the wheel!

Bob & Robin
Ces't La Vie
Mango #31




--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, anniemno1 <no_reply@> wrote:

Has anyone installed a self-steering wind vane on an AMEL?

We are rebuilding a Mango (Annie M, Hull #1) and installing a Simrad RMD 300 with an AP 16 to replace the Neco system.

We would also like a secondary auto pilot but the aft end configuration of the Mango makes it somewhat difficult to install a hydraulic or linear drive system.

In addition, we would like to have a backup system that did not require electrical (or hydraulic) power.

By the way, we have had a new, one-piece, steering post quadrant designed and fabricated to replace the clamp-on fixture. We have the design in CAD format which allowed us to have the part water jet machined. Our cost was expensive (about $400) but it works great. Please let me know if you would like our CAD file and pictures (gratis).

Regards,



John and Annie
Annie M
Mango #1


Re: Self- Steering Wind Vanes

bobbohn <bobbohn@...>
 

We have a Monitor Windvane on our Mango & it fits nicely on the transom. I still run the Neco system as I have so many spare parts for it but, would prefer the self steering on long runs.

Does your new quadrant still allow for the emergency tiller?

Redundant systems are great and having an AP behind the wheel, another on the quadrant plus a windvane sounds like triple protection from manning the wheel!

Bob & Robin
Ces't La Vie
Mango #31

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, anniemno1 <no_reply@...> wrote:

Has anyone installed a self-steering wind vane on an AMEL?

We are rebuilding a Mango (Annie M, Hull #1) and installing a Simrad RMD 300 with an AP 16 to replace the Neco system.

We would also like a secondary auto pilot but the aft end configuration of the Mango makes it somewhat difficult to install a hydraulic or linear drive system.

In addition, we would like to have a backup system that did not require electrical (or hydraulic) power.

By the way, we have had a new, one-piece, steering post quadrant designed and fabricated to replace the clamp-on fixture. We have the design in CAD format which allowed us to have the part water jet machined. Our cost was expensive (about $400) but it works great. Please let me know if you would like our CAD file and pictures (gratis).

Regards,



John and Annie
Annie M
Mango #1


Re: [Amel] Re:Head discharge hose clogged with calcification-lengths of the hose,etc

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Bill,
thanks for your very kind and prompt support and suggestions.
To find all stuff for our boats in Venezuela is very difficult...
All the best and buon vento
Gianni
s/v Eutikia SM2K n 428
Venezia, Italia

----- Original Message -----
From: svbebe
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 10:48 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re:Head discharge hose clogged with calcification-lengths of the hose,etc





Giovanni,

Rigging wire was 5mm and should be about 0.6 - 0.7 meter.

I do not have the exact lengths of the hose, but for 2 heads the following will be more than enough for you:
0.6 meters of 38mm
2.5 meters of 25mm
One of the heads had a slightly different length of 25mm. You will also want to replace the 38mm to 25mm connection between the hoses and probably want to replace the "duck bill" one-way valve that is located where the 25mm connects to the back of the macerator pump. I also replaced the hose clamps.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2 #387
Mackay, Australia

-
> - which is the diameter of the wire you used ?
> - which the length of the 2 hoses of 25 mm and 38 mm I have to replace?






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