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Re: I Cant Upload Photos and Dessalator watermaker.

carcodemueller <carcodemueller@...>
 

It seems yahoo needs from time to time a new login procedure.
Same here: When I login, I get greatings by yahoo with my user name, but I cannot access the member items and only read messages. Doing a new login anything works again. Very ugly.
It seems yahoo protect himself so much that it is not usable by a normal identified user.


Re: [Amel] Re: I Cant Upload Photos and Dessalator watermaker.

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Eric,
I am waiting impatently to see you manifold pics. Dare I suggest that you might not have checked in with your Yahoo name and password?
I wrecked the high pressure pump on my 160ltr machine by trying to run it when the low pressure pump was not working properly.I have just sent both pumps and motors back to Dessalator for repair and I will write again if they give me any advice. When removing them I found several faults which might apply to others.On the outboard side of the Catpump there is a thin blue plastic tube which goes to the control panel. The connection to this pipe had a tiny leak and had been spraying a solenoid on the outboard side of the genset with salt water.
When I removed the low pressure pump I separated the pump from the motor and found that the space between them was a solid mass of salt crystals caused,no doubt by a faulty seal in the pump. If your machine is more than a few years old you should get a service kit from Dessalator and change the seals. This will be simple provided that you have a pair of circlip pliers and can face the battle with all the hose connections!

Best wishes, Anne and John, SM 319

----- Original Message -----
From: kimberlite
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 5:04 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: I Cant Upload Photos



Jose,

I tried to upload and when I do there is a message in red that states that I
can not upload.

Thanks

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lji004
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: I Cant Upload Photos

Hi Eric,

Did you succeed? There is nothing wrong.

Regards
Jose Luis

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "kimberlite1212" <kimberlite@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I tried to upload a photo of a stainless steel raw manifold I had built ,
but it says I do not have the right to upload photos.
> What am I doing wrong?
> Fair Winds,
> Eric
> SM 376 Kimberlite
>


Re: [Amel] Re: I Cant Upload Photos

eric freedman
 

Jose,

I tried to upload and when I do there is a message in red that states that I
can not upload.

Thanks

Fair Winds



Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lji004
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: I Cant Upload Photos





Hi Eric,

Did you succeed? There is nothing wrong.

Regards
Jose Luis

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "kimberlite1212" <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,
I tried to upload a photo of a stainless steel raw manifold I had built ,
but it says I do not have the right to upload photos.
What am I doing wrong?
Fair Winds,
Eric
SM 376 Kimberlite


Liferaft Location

hollambyuk <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Al,
We cannot see your pics as Yahoo does not allow attachments as they can carry viruses. Can you lease load the pics into Photos. My solution can be seen in that section under SM319,changes to Bali Hai.

Best wishes from Malta, John,SM 319


[Amel] Re: Life Raft Location

Bob Fritz
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Don Henderson <maramu48@...> wrote:


Hi AL
Attached are (4) photos of our solution to the liferaft dilemma. The cradle is made with 1/4" x 2" 316-stainless. Retaining strap is 1/8" x 1-1/2" stainless. Weight of 119lb raft rests on the aft deck. Upon releasing the pelican hook, one merely tips the raft over. No lifting. 10 second deployment. This keeps the mizzen dance deck clear.
Don and Pam
s/v MINERVA


--- On Wed, 3/11/09, joemac4sail <joemac4sail@...> wrote:

From: joemac4sail <joemac4sail@...>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Life Raft Location
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 4:26 AM
Hi Barry and Robin

I raised this subject in the past, you can find the results through the search engine. I still think the locker is fine for the storage of your liferaft. Just one thing suggested by another member and that was to raise the liferaft to sit just below the lip of the locker, (we used plastic beer crates cut to size for the job). the technique is now to lift the liferaft partially out of the locker, use the lip as a fulcrum and roll the raft on to the deck. There is considerably less effort required using this method and as you are working beside the cockpit, you are less exposed to the elements. Our raft is a 10 man canister (we do day trips for club members so require a large raft)so a lot heavier.

Regards Joe McDonnell
Hi All

Just a note about liferaft storage. Several years ago on a fall passage from Newport, RI to Bermuda with a group of other boats, we encountered a storm with winds of 55-65 knots and seas 20-25 feet. Two boats in the group had their deck-mounted liferafts torn away and lost by waves sweeping their decks. In one case the cradle failed and in the second, the container failed, and the raft inflated and was blown away. I was happy that our liferaft was a valise model stored below deck as that was one less worry at the time. Personally, I think that storing the liferaft in the locker on the Amel is preferable as long as you have a good plan to get it up on deck if needed. On the Amels that I have delivered, the crew and I always work this out prior to departure.

As an aside, after sailing became problematic in that storm, we hove to with a backed storm jib and storm trysail. It worked like a charm. Chaos ceased and it almost became calm in the boat although we were occasionally swept from stem to stern by waves. This was in a Swan 53. I've never attempted this in an Amel, but I would not hesitate to try it in similar conditions.

Bob Fritz


Re: I Cant Upload Photos

lji004 <jose.luis.isasi@...>
 

Hi Eric,

Did you succeed? There is nothing wrong.

Regards
Jose Luis

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "kimberlite1212" <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,
I tried to upload a photo of a stainless steel raw manifold I had built , but it says I do not have the right to upload photos.
What am I doing wrong?
Fair Winds,
Eric
SM 376 Kimberlite


Re: [Amel] Mizzen Staysail

eric freedman
 

That photo looks like a great sail.

I think I will look into one.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dianexnielsen
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:36 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Mizzen Staysail





Please see this photo in the "photo" section in the album labled Shenanigans
titled "4 Sails".

Thanks, Diane svShenanigans

In a message dated 12/09/09 19:06:19 Eastern Standard Time, sailw32 writes:

This is the photo in the Amel brochure I was referring to in a previous
post. This mizzen staysail appears to be a much flatter cut than the sail
that
came with my boat and its white, while mine is red,white & blue.I was just
wondering if anyone has a similar sail. Pat SM123


Re: [Amel] Mizzen Staysail

dianexnielsen <dianexnielsen@...>
 

Please see this photo in the "photo" section in the album labled Shenanigans titled "4 Sails".

Thanks, Diane svShenanigans

In a message dated 12/09/09 19:06:19 Eastern Standard Time, sailw32 writes:

This is the photo in the Amel brochure I was referring to in a previous
post. This mizzen staysail appears to be a much flatter cut than the sail that
came with my boat and its white, while mine is red,white & blue.I was just
wondering if anyone has a similar sail. Pat SM123

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Mizzen Staysail

Patrick McAneny
 

This is the photo in the Amel brochure I was referring to in a previous
post. This mizzen staysail appears to be a much flatter cut than the sail that
came with my boat and its white, while mine is red,white & blue.I was just
wondering if anyone has a similar sail. Pat SM123


Re: [Amel] Re: Life Raft Location

Don Henderson <maramu48@...>
 

Hi AL
Attached are (4) photos of our solution to the liferaft dilemma. The cradle is made with 1/4" x 2" 316-stainless. Retaining strap is 1/8" x 1-1/2" stainless. Weight of 119lb raft rests on the aft deck. Upon releasing the pelican hook, one merely tips the raft over. No lifting. 10 second deployment. This keeps the mizzen dance deck clear.
Don and Pam
s/v MINERVA

--- On Wed, 3/11/09, joemac4sail <joemac4sail@yahoo.ie> wrote:

From: joemac4sail <joemac4sail@yahoo.ie>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Life Raft Location
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 4:26 AM






Hi Barry and Robin

I raised this subject in the past, you can find the results through the search engine. I still think the locker is fine for the storage of your liferaft. Just one thing suggested by another member and that was to raise the liferaft to sit just below the lip of the locker, (we used plastic beer crates cut to size for the job). the technique is now to lift the liferaft partially out of the locker, use the lip as a fulcrum and roll the raft on to the deck. There is considerably less effort required using this method and as you are working beside the cockpit, you are less exposed to the elements. Our raft is a 10 man canister (we do day trips for club members so require a large raft)so a lot heavier.

Regards Joe McDonnell
--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, "seagasm" <seagasm@... > wrote:

Hi Everyone,we are preparing our SM for a Pacific cruise and have changed the 6 man Zodiac liferaft from a soft pack to a canister that I would prefer to mount on the deck/cabin top. Before I get carried away with my trusty Ryobi drill, does anyone have any suggestions for a most suitable location and WHY?

Best Regards
Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM171


















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Re: anti-piracy map

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Regarding the Gulf of Auden, I have the "coalition patrolled corridor," as well as individual pirate attacks, and insurance companies' restricted WAR Zones in Maxsea chart overlays (.ptf files) if anyone is interested. (bill"at"svbebe.com). It is something that I put together several months ago and have kept up-to-date as of this week.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@...> wrote:

Hi everybody,
for those approaching Western Indian Ocean, could be of some interest the link below.
http://www.pbo.co.uk/news/406034/anti-piracy-planning-chart-free-download
Paolo, I have printed it in standard A1 format, I'll give you when we meet for Christmas.
God luck and Fair Winds
Maria&Attilio Santorin#84 Sisila






Poinsard wall lamps

Don Henderson <maramu48@...>
 

Does anyone know where to obtain, or have for sale?, the Poinsard wall lamps, as found on the Maramu?
thanks, Don  s/v Minerva  Maramu #135


anti-piracy map

Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@...>
 

Hi everybody,
for those approaching Western Indian Ocean, could be of some interest the link below.
http://www.pbo.co.uk/news/406034/anti-piracy-planning-chart-free-download
Paolo, I have printed it in standard A1 format, I'll give you when we meet for Christmas.
God luck and Fair Winds
Maria&Attilio Santorin#84 Sisila


Re: [Amel] Grey Water Discharge

Craig Briggs
 

As Yogi Berra said, "You can observe a lot by looking around", so I jumped on the US EPA website and learned that US "No-discharge" zones only restrict "Black water" not "grey" water. I stand corrected - sorry for the misstatement. I did, though, also get a "hit" that some local areas in the US and Canada do limit grey water.

Regarding Turkey, however, Noonsite reported the Turkish Marine Environmental Protection Association (TURMEPA) "Blue Card" scheme currently requires "No Discharge" of both "black" and "grey" water in the Mugla region (from Bodrum to Fethiye) and, starting March 2010, in the Gocek Dalaman area. Interestingly, the TURMEPA website states they are an organization of "business, industry and marine sector" leaders who "aim to be a major force in the implementation of ... laws". I found no "hits" on the laws themselves, although I don't read Turkish.

The "buzz" on other DB's lends credence to the Noonsite report while pointing out the many vagaries in local interpretation and enforcement.

As a practical note, I really don't fancy our soap laden, food grease and particle filled grey water floating around when we swim and I'll confess to occasionally missing a bit of spilled engine oil when I change the filters. It certainly would be more pleasant if I could easily contain that and at least manually control its discharge, if not dump it offshore or pump it out ashore.

Cheers, Craig Brigs, s/v SANGARIS; Santorin #68


Re: [Amel] Grey Water Discharge

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ric -- I think with research you will find there are indeed some areas that prohibit grey water discharge. Certain areas of the Great Lakes in the United States have regulations against any grey water discharge. From recent personal experience, two marinas in New Zealand and one in Queensland territory of Australia this year stressed to us that there could be no grey water discharge. We were told that galley and shower water must be retained onboard. Told us we could not operate the onboard dishwasher or the washing machine since there was no method of containing the dirty water on our boat. Made no difference to them that we were using biodegradable products.

Have no idea about regulations in Turkey or anywhere else in the Med as we haven't made that far yet. But certain parts of USA, New Zealand and Australia do indeed prohibit discharge of grey water.

Judy
S/V BeBe
SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Ric <ric@...> wrote:

Sorry, but No discharge rules apply to heads. It would be a
exceptionately rare sailboat ever built that holds grey water and sink
water,even Amel. No one, including the coast guards own boats could
comply. So relax, enjoy & use a little of biodegradable soap. The
"discharge police" won't fine you

Ric Gottschalk
Bali Hai SN24


Re: [Amel] mizzen staysail

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Look at a photo posted for this group
 
 
Serge Mango 51
 


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De: sailw32@aol.com <sailw32@aol.com>
Objet: Re: [Amel] mizzen staysail
À: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: dimanche 6 Décembre 2009, 21 h 25


 



Hi Richard, No that was not us, I hauled out end of Oct. I thought maybe I
was missing a sail from my inventory,I had not heard of a mizzen staysail
,but then what do I know. If you guys are going to be in Annapolis this
winter Diane and I will drive down after the Holidays, I'll bring this
brochure with the photo I'm talking about. Happy Holidays, Pat & Diane SM 123

In a message dated 12/6/2009 9:03:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
richard03801@ yahoo.com writes:

Hi Pat, we have never seen a mizzen staysail on an Amel SM.. maybe and old
52 but even then the rig is not right for that kind of sail. We have seen a
stay sail rig as a head sail using the big center cleat and using the
balooner halyard rather then a head stay for storm use.
Did we see your boat in Annapolis over Thanksgiving?
Our ding was not in service or we'd have come out to see.
Best to all
Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209

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From: sailw32 <_sailw32@aol. sai_ (mailto:sailw32@aol. com) >
To: _amelyachtowners@ amelyachtowname_
(mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com)
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 6:43:38 PM
Subject: [Amel] mizzen staysail

I was looking at a sales brochure that came with my boat SM 123,a picture
depicted the boat sailing with what looked like a typical staysail flying
forward of the mizzen and aft of the main.My boat came with a mizzen
balooner but not a normal cut staysail. Was that a standard sail that came with a
SM ? Thanks, Pat

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Re: [Amel] mizzen staysail

amelforme
 

Every SM 53 Amel built was equipped with a mizzen staysail as standard .
This sail is very much like what we call a mizzen staysail here in North
America with a slightly fuller cut. It is made from rip-stop nylon and self
destructs in breeze over about 20 knots true if you are not really careful.
Well set, it can add about 1 knot when reaching. The sails were usually
red/white/blue and had a tendency to bleed the colors if put away wet.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869
Email: jfpottercys@att.net


Re: [Amel] Grey Water Discharge

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

We have just come back from being in the Western Med for 18 months. There is NO discharge enforced rules in there, you will find that Turkey will selectively enforce them on non Turk boats but only for the sewage discharge.
And yes we have been inspected. No issues. Yes, we do use the holding tanks when in harbor or the on shore heads. Keep in mind there is very very few pump outs in the Med. When you ask the think you are joking.. And we NEVER make water in the Med. it's not safe, people have been using it as a big septic tank for 1000's of years and still do. We'd also suggest you test water in port BEFORE you fill your tanks. We filter every drop twice going in and out of our tank.
Clean wake it counts its great so long as you can... Common sense wins very time.
Richard and Joan on Challenge




________________________________
From: Ric <ric@kitchenmagic.net>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 4:03:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Grey Water Discharge


Sorry, but No discharge rules apply to heads. It would be a
exceptionately rare sailboat ever built that holds grey water and sink
water,even Amel. No one, including the coast guards own boats could
comply. So relax, enjoy & use a little of biodegradable soap. The
"discharge police" won't fine you

Ric Gottschalk
Bali Hai SN24

On Dec 6, 2009, at 2:32 PM, "svSangaris" <sangaris@aol. com> wrote:



David and Hazel wrote:
"Does anyone know what the rules and regs say? all boats must
discharge water as part of normal life aboard.

David and Hazel
Sharki148 Spirito Affine"
David and Hazel,
The rules are quite explicit. NO DISCHARGE. Period. Nothing from the
shower sumps, nothing from the galley, nothing from the heads. You
must hold it until you leave the no-discharge area or have it pumped
out at a pump-out station.

No-discharge areas have been proliferating for years. The US has
many (Great Lakes since the 60's if I recall correctly; Block
Island; parts of Naragansett Bay, etc.) and the Europeans are
following suit, Turkey being the latest, I think.

Regardless of your assessment of "common sense", we boaters need to
abide by these regs and leave a "Clean Wake" as the Seven Seas
Cruising Association advocates.

Best regards, Craig & Katherine s/v SangarisSantorin #68









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Re: [Amel] Grey Water Discharge

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Sometimes people and marinas wind up in the radical left column when it comes to defining "discharge."

We stayed at a marina in the Auckland area of New Zealand that had an "absolutely no discharge" rule. I asked about sink/shower water and they said no. To their credit they had an in-slip pump-out system.

After a few days of rationing sink water I noticed several local large power fishing boats cleaning fish on the sterns of their boats in the marina. I noticed marina employees pressure-washing the docks (with chemicals). I noticed marina employees and others washing and rinsing boats in slips. I noticed that the pressure wash system at the haul-out area drained into the marina. Then I decided to track down where the stuff goes from the in-slip pump-out...it went to a septic system about 100 meters from the water's edge.

Judy and I decided that the marina could live with our soapy sink and shower water.

We are half-way around. We have learned not to stress on the things we hear, but rather experience things first-hand. Of course this rule does not apply to Gulf of Auden piracy...we are stressed about what we hear!

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Ric <ric@...> wrote:

Sorry, but No discharge rules apply to heads. It would be a
exceptionately rare sailboat ever built that holds grey water and sink
water,even Amel. No one, including the coast guards own boats could
comply. So relax, enjoy & use a little of biodegradable soap. The
"discharge police" won't fine you

Ric Gottschalk
Bali Hai SN24

On Dec 6, 2009, at 2:32 PM, "sv Sangaris" <sangaris@...> wrote:



David and Hazel wrote:
"Does anyone know what the rules and regs say? all boats must
discharge water as part of normal life aboard.

David and Hazel
Sharki148 Spirito Affine"
David and Hazel,
The rules are quite explicit. NO DISCHARGE. Period. Nothing from the
shower sumps, nothing from the galley, nothing from the heads. You
must hold it until you leave the no-discharge area or have it pumped
out at a pump-out station.

No-discharge areas have been proliferating for years. The US has
many (Great Lakes since the 60's if I recall correctly; Block
Island; parts of Naragansett Bay, etc.) and the Europeans are
following suit, Turkey being the latest, I think.

Regardless of your assessment of "common sense", we boaters need to
abide by these regs and leave a "Clean Wake" as the Seven Seas
Cruising Association advocates.

Best regards, Craig & Katherine s/v Sangaris Santorin #68




Re: [Amel] mizzen staysail

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Pat, we have never seen a mizzen staysail on an Amel SM.. maybe and old 52 but even then the rig is not right for that kind of sail. We have seen a stay sail rig as a head sail using the big center cleat and using the balooner halyard rather then a head stay for storm use.
Did we see your boat in Annapolis over Thanksgiving?
Our ding was not in service or we'd have come out to see.
Best to all
Richard and Joan on Challenge SM 209




________________________________
From: sailw32 <sailw32@aol.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, December 6, 2009 6:43:38 PM
Subject: [Amel] mizzen staysail


I was looking at a sales brochure that came with my boat SM 123,a picture depicted the boat sailing with what looked like a typical staysail flying forward of the mizzen and aft of the main.My boat came with a mizzen balooner but not a normal cut staysail. Was that a standard sail that came with a SM ? Thanks, Pat







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