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Re: [Amel] Radar Reflectors

eric freedman
 

We were in hurricane force conditions October 28 and 29 North West of
Bermuda and the stream. Force 12 winds, seas 50-60 feet. I saw a ship on Ais
2 miles away. I called them up and they did not see me.

AIS is the thing to have.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Mackintosh
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 6:15 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Radar Reflectors








Yes read all of that before BUT this was conducted in laboratory conditions.
Shame they could not have got hold of a real ship and a few boats/yachts and
gone out into mid channel and did some real life tests - i think the SeaMe
would have still won but wonder what sort of performance the passive
reflectors would have achieved. I know of some real life tests where one of
the popular can reflectors they tested (you have a choice of two make a
guess) was totally useless - did not enhance the targets radar signature at
all :-(

I guess a SeaMe and an AIS transducer is now the best way of being seen by
the BIG Boys if you sail in or transit busy shipping waters. Dont suppose
this stops a submarine hitting you or surfacing under your boat.....and
before you say unlikely we had one boat over here get hit by the periscope
of a submerged submarine and there was a fairly large Japanese survey boat
got sunk by a submarine doing i think a emergency surfacing drill.

regards

David

2009/6/5 kimberlite <kimberlite@optonlin <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net>
e.net>



Hi,

I came across this analysis of radar reflectors.

Looks like the see me unit out performs them all.

Glad I have one. Thanks Ian.

http://www.ybw. <http://www.ybw.com/pbo/pdfs/radar_reflectors.pdf>
com/pbo/pdfs/radar_reflectors.pdf

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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Re: [Amel] Radar Reflectors

David Mackintosh <dlm48@...>
 

As my boat is 'dry' would coke cans do?

:-)

regards

David



2009/6/5 Alex Paquin <alex.paquin@usa.net>



I read somewhere that in a real life test, the winning reflector was a
plastic garbage bag full of beer cans.
I don't know how true this but it sounded like a lot of fun. Maybe worth
testing....

Alex
s/v Simpatico
Maramu 94



Re: [Amel] Radar Reflectors

Alejandro Paquin
 

I read somewhere that in a real life test, the winning reflector was a plastic garbage bag full of beer cans.
I don't know how true this but it sounded like a lot of fun. Maybe worth testing....

Alex
s/v Simpatico
Maramu 94


Re: [Amel] Radar Reflectors

David Mackintosh <dlm48@...>
 

Yes read all of that before BUT this was conducted in laboratory conditions.
Shame they could not have got hold of a real ship and a few boats/yachts and
gone out into mid channel and did some real life tests - i think the SeaMe
would have still won but wonder what sort of performance the passive
reflectors would have achieved. I know of some real life tests where one of
the popular can reflectors they tested (you have a choice of two make a
guess) was totally useless - did not enhance the targets radar signature at
all :-(

I guess a SeaMe and an AIS transducer is now the best way of being seen by
the BIG Boys if you sail in or transit busy shipping waters. Dont suppose
this stops a submarine hitting you or surfacing under your boat.....and
before you say unlikely we had one boat over here get hit by the periscope
of a submerged submarine and there was a fairly large Japanese survey boat
got sunk by a submarine doing i think a emergency surfacing drill.

regards

David

2009/6/5 kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net>



Hi,

I came across this analysis of radar reflectors.

Looks like the see me unit out performs them all.

Glad I have one. Thanks Ian.

http://www.ybw.com/pbo/pdfs/radar_reflectors.pdf

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





Important Spare Parts for SM

bootlegger@...
 

Jose

Would appreciate a copy of your Exel Spares List. My e-mail address is:
bootlegger@mailasail.co.im. Many thanks.

Frank Newton

S/V 'Bootleggger of Mann'
SM 2 #323

Trinidad

Jose,

From my experience of 3 years into a circumnavigation, I would add the
following (assuming that you have routine items like filters, belts,
etc.:
Onan Generator MDKAV
Heat Exchanger Cap Kit 130-5176
Impeller 132-0498 old#132-0375
Impeller O Ring 132-0372
Pencil Zinc 130-4434
Switch Low Pressure (Raw Water) 309-0667

Yanmar Model 4JH3-HTE
Impeller 129670-42530
O Ring for Impeller cover X506590
Yanmar Cruise Spares Kit

Pumps:
A/C Raw Water Pump overhaul kit
Head Mascerator Pump motor complete Jabsco 37072-0094
Head Mascerator Pump repair kit Jabsco 90197-0000
Head Supply Pump rebuild kit Jabsco 30682-1000&30617-1000
Fresh Water Pump rebuild kit Reya A66B
----Woodruff key for impeller for above pump 1/8 X 3/8 Reya 035650
Bilge Sump Electric Pump rebuild kit
Bilge Sump Manual Pump rebuild kit
Bilge Sump Electric Pump Complete (orig-rebuilt 7/27/08) Marina ZZ (Reya)
Bilge Hose Strainer (Strum Box) 1 1/2" OS Diameter
Anchor wash Overhaul kit JDREX S40 24 volt
Anchor wash "L" rubber adapter

Windlass Switch Rubber Covers
Windlass Switches

Lewmar Winch service kit Size 6-64

Zinc for Spurs Line Cutter

The following from Amel (although you can find some of these elsewhere
such as bearings and seals)
Amel U-Drive
Shaft Wear Bushing and Seal(3) Replacement Kit

Bow Thruster
Set of 3 foam donuts
Shaft Seal
60mm tube seal Seal
Set of Nylon prop screws (will use when servicing thruster)
Bow Thruster - nylon prop hub and stainless steel prop hub pin

I have a complete list of spares that we carry on BeBe in an Excel
workbook that I can email to you. I will say that we have not touched 75%
of them...possibly because we have them!!

Best,


Bill
s/v Bebe, SM2, #387
Mackay, Australia




I already have in my list:

1) bilge pump repair kit
2) Bow thruster seals ( The boat has 3 spare props)
3) Transmission seals


Any other parts for the electric furling systems?
What about electrical system spares?

Thanks a lot in advance
Jose and Magnolia
IPANEMA SM278
Marblehead, MA
USA


Radar Reflectors

eric freedman
 

Hi,

I came across this analysis of radar reflectors.

Looks like the see me unit out performs them all.

Glad I have one. Thanks Ian.



http://www.ybw.com/pbo/pdfs/radar_reflectors.pdf



Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Re: [Amel] Re: Important Spare Parts for SM

eric freedman
 

Would love to se your list of spares,



Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



Kimberlite@OPTONLINE.NET



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[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:13 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Important Spare Parts for SM








Jose,

From my experience of 3 years into a circumnavigation, I would add the
following (assuming that you have routine items like filters, belts, etc.:

Onan Generator MDKAV
Heat Exchanger Cap Kit 130-5176
Impeller 132-0498 old#132-0375
Impeller O Ring 132-0372
Pencil Zinc 130-4434
Switch Low Pressure (Raw Water) 309-0667

Yanmar Model 4JH3-HTE
Impeller 129670-42530
O Ring for Impeller cover X506590
Yanmar Cruise Spares Kit

Pumps:
A/C Raw Water Pump overhaul kit
Head Mascerator Pump motor complete Jabsco 37072-0094
Head Mascerator Pump repair kit Jabsco 90197-0000
Head Supply Pump rebuild kit Jabsco 30682-1000&30617-1000
Fresh Water Pump rebuild kit Reya A66B
----Woodruff key for impeller for above pump 1/8 X 3/8 Reya 035650
Bilge Sump Electric Pump rebuild kit
Bilge Sump Manual Pump rebuild kit
Bilge Sump Electric Pump Complete (orig-rebuilt 7/27/08) Marina ZZ (Reya)
Bilge Hose Strainer (Strum Box) 1 1/2" OS Diameter
Anchor wash Overhaul kit JDREX S40 24 volt
Anchor wash "L" rubber adapter

Windlass Switch Rubber Covers
Windlass Switches

Lewmar Winch service kit Size 6-64

Zinc for Spurs Line Cutter

The following from Amel (although you can find some of these elsewhere such
as bearings and seals)
Amel U-Drive
Shaft Wear Bushing and Seal(3) Replacement Kit

Bow Thruster
Set of 3 foam donuts
Shaft Seal
60mm tube seal Seal
Set of Nylon prop screws (will use when servicing thruster)
Bow Thruster - nylon prop hub and stainless steel prop hub pin

I have a complete list of spares that we carry on BeBe in an Excel workbook
that I can email to you. I will say that we have not touched 75% of
them...possibly because we have them!!

Best,

Bill
s/v Bebe, SM2, #387
Mackay, Australia

I already have in my list:

1) bilge pump repair kit
2) Bow thruster seals ( The boat has 3 spare props)
3) Transmission seals


Any other parts for the electric furling systems?
What about electrical system spares?

Thanks a lot in advance
Jose and Magnolia
IPANEMA SM278
Marblehead, MA
USA


Re: Important Spare Parts for SM

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jose,

From my experience of 3 years into a circumnavigation, I would add the following (assuming that you have routine items like filters, belts, etc.:

Onan Generator MDKAV
Heat Exchanger Cap Kit 130-5176
Impeller 132-0498 old#132-0375
Impeller O Ring 132-0372
Pencil Zinc 130-4434
Switch Low Pressure (Raw Water) 309-0667

Yanmar Model 4JH3-HTE
Impeller 129670-42530
O Ring for Impeller cover X506590
Yanmar Cruise Spares Kit

Pumps:
A/C Raw Water Pump overhaul kit
Head Mascerator Pump motor complete Jabsco 37072-0094
Head Mascerator Pump repair kit Jabsco 90197-0000
Head Supply Pump rebuild kit Jabsco 30682-1000&30617-1000
Fresh Water Pump rebuild kit Reya A66B
----Woodruff key for impeller for above pump 1/8 X 3/8 Reya 035650
Bilge Sump Electric Pump rebuild kit
Bilge Sump Manual Pump rebuild kit
Bilge Sump Electric Pump Complete (orig-rebuilt 7/27/08) Marina ZZ (Reya)
Bilge Hose Strainer (Strum Box) 1 1/2" OS Diameter
Anchor wash Overhaul kit JDREX S40 24 volt
Anchor wash "L" rubber adapter

Windlass Switch Rubber Covers
Windlass Switches

Lewmar Winch service kit Size 6-64

Zinc for Spurs Line Cutter

The following from Amel (although you can find some of these elsewhere such as bearings and seals)
Amel U-Drive
Shaft Wear Bushing and Seal(3) Replacement Kit

Bow Thruster
Set of 3 foam donuts
Shaft Seal
60mm tube seal Seal
Set of Nylon prop screws (will use when servicing thruster)
Bow Thruster - nylon prop hub and stainless steel prop hub pin

I have a complete list of spares that we carry on BeBe in an Excel workbook that I can email to you. I will say that we have not touched 75% of them...possibly because we have them!!

Best,


Bill
s/v Bebe, SM2, #387
Mackay, Australia

I already have in my list:

1) bilge pump repair kit
2) Bow thruster seals ( The boat has 3 spare props)
3) Transmission seals


Any other parts for the electric furling systems?
What about electrical system spares?

Thanks a lot in advance
Jose and Magnolia
IPANEMA SM278
Marblehead, MA
USA


Important Spare Parts for SM

José Gabriel Venegas <jgvenegas@...>
 

I bought my SM2 #278 last October and have enjoyed every second of it. We sailed her to Bahamas last December, I just brought her up to Marblehead last week in a flawless passage lasting 7 days.

However, as expected for a boat of this age, I have had to do a couple of repairs, and was lucky that the previous owner had spare parts for each of these repairs. As many of you have pointed out, as I ordered spares from France I came to experience the cost of shipping parts by AMEL who sends them next day FedEX.

Fortunately, I will be visiting France for business reasons in two weeks and will have the chance to stock up my boat with critical spare parts.
I will greatly appreciate of you could help me with your experience by suggesting which parts I should order. Has any one made a list of important AMEL spare parts?

I already have in my list:

1) bilge pump repair kit
2) Bow thruster seals ( The boat has 3 spare props)
3) Transmission seals


Any other parts for the electric furling systems?
What about electrical system spares?

Thanks a lot in advance
Jose and Magnolia
IPANEMA SM278
Marblehead, MA
USA


Re: Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and vinegar as a solution

karkauai
 

I had the same problem of backflow into the bowl, replaced the hoses and joker valve but still had backflow into the bowl. I added a valve to the line and shut it off whenever I leave the boat. Interestingly it fills the bowl but never overflows the bowl when the boat's not rocking...I guess there's just enough in the hose to fill the bowl. Seems like the leak has finally quit and I'm not sure I need the valve any more, but I'm still going to close it off when I'm gone.

A marine head service guy told me that vinegar and oil was good for preventative maintenance, but not for clearing out clogged lines. He said some people use muriatic acid. Has anyone done that? Any luck?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243 "Kristy"


Re: [Amel] soda blasting

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thank you Joel, much appreciated.
Danny SM299

----- Original Message -----
From: Joel F. Potter
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] soda blasting





All things equal, soda or "media" blasting is a much better way to remove old anti-fouling
than sanding. Like any mechanical process, the desired end result depends a great deal on
the skill of the one performing the work. A good media blasting technician can coax all
the coatings off without damaging the underlying gel coat. Keep an eye on the process as
it begins. If the technician cuts through the gel coat more than once, pull the plug and
go to PLAN B. Always have a plan B.
If the gel coat is not perforated, you need not put any anti-osmotic coatings on the hull.
AMEL puts the anti-osmotic barrier coat BEHIND the gel coat while initially laminating the
fiberglass so, if the gel coat is not compromised, the anti-osmotics are still as
effective as they were originally. Just repair any areas where the gel coat gets cut and
you are good to go. Nothing wrong with the belt and braces(suspenders) approach of adding
more anti-osmosis coatings. However, they really are not necessary.
If you must employ any type of conventional machine sanding, watch the operator like a
hawk for the entire process as it is much more likely to result in damaged/perforated gel
coat compared to media blasting. Sand blasting has its own set of problems and should not
be used on fiberglass boat bottoms.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Phone: 1 (954) 462-5869 Fax: 1 (954) 462-3923


Re: Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and vinegar as a solution

rossirossix4
 

Don't know why, but every time I've had a problem with the holding tanks seeping back into the toilet bowel, I've filled the head with a gallon of vinegar and pumped it half through, then waited overnight, and the problem is gone for weeks/months. Haven't had to replace the oneway rubber valve in years.

For what its worth.

Bob, Brittany de la Mer

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Bill,

I tried the same thing a few tears ago 100% vinegar also nada.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 4:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re:Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and
vinegar as a solution








Re: test with vinegar

After I solved the problem with heavy calcification by using the tool shown
in the photo section and described in earlier postings, I decided to conduct
an experiment with vinegar and the calcified deposits.

I took some chunks of the deposits and placed and equal amount in each of 2
jars. One jar was filled with 50:50 salt water and vinegar and the other
with 50:50 drinking water and vinegar.

The reults after 30 days of soaking in the solutions:
Nothing, Nada, Zilch... The vinegar solutions had absolutely no effect.

Possibly the results that some have seen with adding vinegar to the head to
rid calcified deposits is some sort of placebo effect!

Thought you would like to know.

Best,

Bill
s/v Bebe, SM2, #387
Mackay, Australia







Re: [Amel] Re:Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and vinegar as a solution

eric freedman
 

Bill,

I tried the same thing a few tears ago 100% vinegar also nada.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 4:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re:Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and
vinegar as a solution








Re: test with vinegar

After I solved the problem with heavy calcification by using the tool shown
in the photo section and described in earlier postings, I decided to conduct
an experiment with vinegar and the calcified deposits.

I took some chunks of the deposits and placed and equal amount in each of 2
jars. One jar was filled with 50:50 salt water and vinegar and the other
with 50:50 drinking water and vinegar.

The reults after 30 days of soaking in the solutions:
Nothing, Nada, Zilch... The vinegar solutions had absolutely no effect.

Possibly the results that some have seen with adding vinegar to the head to
rid calcified deposits is some sort of placebo effect!

Thought you would like to know.

Best,

Bill
s/v Bebe, SM2, #387
Mackay, Australia


Re: [Amel] soda blasting

amelforme
 

All things equal, soda or "media" blasting is a much better way to remove old anti-fouling
than sanding. Like any mechanical process, the desired end result depends a great deal on
the skill of the one performing the work. A good media blasting technician can coax all
the coatings off without damaging the underlying gel coat. Keep an eye on the process as
it begins. If the technician cuts through the gel coat more than once, pull the plug and
go to PLAN B. Always have a plan B.
If the gel coat is not perforated, you need not put any anti-osmotic coatings on the hull.
AMEL puts the anti-osmotic barrier coat BEHIND the gel coat while initially laminating the
fiberglass so, if the gel coat is not compromised, the anti-osmotics are still as
effective as they were originally. Just repair any areas where the gel coat gets cut and
you are good to go. Nothing wrong with the belt and braces(suspenders) approach of adding
more anti-osmosis coatings. However, they really are not necessary.
If you must employ any type of conventional machine sanding, watch the operator like a
hawk for the entire process as it is much more likely to result in damaged/perforated gel
coat compared to media blasting. Sand blasting has its own set of problems and should not
be used on fiberglass boat bottoms.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Phone: 1 (954) 462-5869 Fax: 1 (954) 462-3923


Re: Head discharge hose clogged with calcification

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Bill,

I had the same problem. I went to Home Depot and rented a small hand held drain snake, not the variety on the drum, but instead the type that is fairly short and attatched to a crank handle. With this device I was able to "break through" the blockage. I would recommend putting some masking tape over the wooden cutout frames to avoid scratching them.

I would also recommend sending a similar slightly longer device up the discharge side from the outside of the boat.

After I cleared as much of the blockage as I could I shut off the seacock and filled the holding tank with a mxture of fresh water and septic tank cleaning solution. I let it soak for a day or so and then opened up the seacock while at the same time flooding the holding tank with fresh water via the pump out opening.

Hope this helps.

John Abercrombie
SM 391

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "svbebe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

I searched and searched because I remember someone describing how they solved the problem I have, but I could not find the posting.

One of our heads stopped discharging. I removed the prox 1" hose that is the discharge hose from the maceration pump and found it partially clogged with calcification. I also removed the prox 2" diameter 10" long hose that the 1" hose connects to and found it completely blocked with calcification.

The metal brass or bronze pipe that the 2" hose connects to is also blocked with calcification. The hoses are removable/replaceable and easy to take care of...the pipe has got me!

I was able to remove a considerable amount of calcification from the pipe with various screwdrivers, but it is still blocked.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387


soda blasting

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi From Danny SM 299. I need to strip back my anti fouling as it has poor adhesion as a result of being applied over an incompatable paint. I need to strip it right back, apply a barier coat and re anti foul. Does any one have experience of soda blasting to do this work as opposed to orbital sanding.
Regards
Danny


Re: Head discharge hose clogged with calcification and vinegar as a solution

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Re: test with vinegar

After I solved the problem with heavy calcification by using the tool shown in the photo section and described in earlier postings, I decided to conduct an experiment with vinegar and the calcified deposits.

I took some chunks of the deposits and placed and equal amount in each of 2 jars. One jar was filled with 50:50 salt water and vinegar and the other with 50:50 drinking water and vinegar.

The reults after 30 days of soaking in the solutions:
Nothing, Nada, Zilch... The vinegar solutions had absolutely no effect.

Possibly the results that some have seen with adding vinegar to the head to rid calcified deposits is some sort of placebo effect!

Thought you would like to know.

Best,

Bill
s/v Bebe, SM2, #387
Mackay, Australia


Sharki

dmichellod@bluewin.ch <dmichellod@...>
 

Hi,

About Sharki.

1 Has anybody an idea why the rudder could be more hard to steer with the time? How to remedy?

2 How to process to dismantle the rudder? How much distance to be left under the rudder to have it slipping out?

3 Any address to find the originals taps from the shower?

Any help welcome. Thanks

DMichelLod


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