John & Ann on Bali Hai,

Is your prop brass or steel. I have a Max, brass, prop on my
'82 Mango, "Windrush." Interested if the Aquiline Plus works on brass, what
does the direction on the can say?. I'm in the Chesapeake Bay with lots of
little ugly underwater friends.

AE,

Crash



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John and Anne on Bali
Hai
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:03 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft cabin bigger bunk and Autoprop fouling



We did a big job in order to get a bigger double bunk. There are some
pics in the Changes to Bali Hai album. It is great at at anchor
although Anne has to climb over my legs to get out before me. It is
alsso great when the boat is heeled as only one person will be using
it at a time and that person can lie fore and aft on the downhill
side.Construction details are given in msg #898.
I also know when the autoprop needs cleaning because even a small
amount of fouling will cause it to use too coarse a pitch and the
engine cannot reach full revs.If the fouling is bad the engine will
attempt to go faster and put out a lot of black smoke to foul the
topsides.
We have connected a long hose to the regulator on the airbottle with
a scuba mouthpiece on the other end so that the bottle can stay on
deck midships whilst I clean the prop and or antifouling.
Normally cleaning the prop is necessary about three times a season
but this year I sanded it and gave it two coats of black propellor
antifouling called AqualinePlus from Jotun or Penguin Yachting. My
can was made in Italy by Orazio Brignola S.p.A but there is also an
address for Jotun Iberica S.A. in Barcelona.
The boat went in the water in May and I dived to clean the prop in
August clutching my wire brush,scraper and scourer. There were a
number of very small barnacles which were dead as they came off as
soon as I brushed them with my gardening gloves. I dived on the prop
again a couple of weeks ago and found virtually no fouling on it.
This was as I expected as the engine could still get up to 3100 revs
in flat water and no wind.

All the best, John, SM 319

Ken Coats and Judy Golden on Golden Daze Amel Maramu 192, Portugal:

We just prepared in Chesapeake Marine Railway (formerly Deagles)
in Deltaville Va for our Atlantic crossing.

New owners Rick and his brother John were very good working
with a tight schedule and working with or without me.
Work crew were friendly, experinced and quite capable. Charges
were as expected (always, anywhere, check before the work
is done, and always be involved).

We did about 10K worth of work and I felt I got every cent worth.
If any problem you talk with the owner, and he gives a shit.

Thats was my best haulout so far and I did a lot of work my self,
and worked with the owner or crew one other projects.

The restrooms suck, but were being remodeled when we left.

Ken Coats

Wow, I am glad I asked. I talked to two marinas in New Bern and
neither mentioned bridges. I was under the impression that the
bridges were inland or up river from the marinas. Thanks for your
input. Tony


-- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, rbenven44 <no_reply@...> wrote:

Hello Tony,

First of all, you won't be able to get a SM into New Bern

without

removing the main mast first. Read the posts about doing the ICW
from Norfolk to Beaufort. The tide range isn't enough to get you
under the fixed bridges.

I have cruised the Carolinas and the East Coast extensively for
many years. In my opinion, the best yards on the central East

Coast

are in the Chesapeake. Right now, I am hauled out at Deltaville
Boatyard, near the South end of the Chesapeake. It's far from any
city, but has good people, very competitive rates, and can handle a
SM. There are about 150 good-sized sailboats hauled out here, and
they have competent mechanics. There's not much in the Carolinas

or

Georgia that can compare, except maybe Charleston City Marina &
Boatyard (But I have no experience with their boatyard).

Feel free to contact me regarding Deltaville Boatyard or any

other

location on the East Coast.

Regards, Roy on Excalibur, SM # 195


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@>
wrote:

Hello all,

It is time to start heading back to the US. Can anyone tell me

of

a "good" marina that has yard facilites? I would like to pull

the

main

and generator out of our boat and give the engine room a total
upgrading. We have reservations at a marina in New Bern, NC.,

but

there are no facilites for the work I would like to get done. We

would

prefer to stay in No. Carolina or So. Carolina maybe even

Georgia.

We

plan to get there just about Christmas. Thanks in advance for

any

suggestions.

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266
Bonaire

Wow, I am glad I asked. I talked to two marinas in New Bern and
neither mentioned bridges. I was under the impression that the
bridges were inland or up river from the marinas. Thanks for your
input. Tony


-- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, rbenven44 <no_reply@...> wrote:

Hello Tony,

First of all, you won't be able to get a SM into New Bern

without

removing the main mast first. Read the posts about doing the ICW
from Norfolk to Beaufort. The tide range isn't enough to get you
under the fixed bridges.

I have cruised the Carolinas and the East Coast extensively for
many years. In my opinion, the best yards on the central East

Coast

are in the Chesapeake. Right now, I am hauled out at Deltaville
Boatyard, near the South end of the Chesapeake. It's far from any
city, but has good people, very competitive rates, and can handle a
SM. There are about 150 good-sized sailboats hauled out here, and
they have competent mechanics. There's not much in the Carolinas

or

Georgia that can compare, except maybe Charleston City Marina &
Boatyard (But I have no experience with their boatyard).

Feel free to contact me regarding Deltaville Boatyard or any

other

location on the East Coast.

Regards, Roy on Excalibur, SM # 195


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@>
wrote:

Hello all,

It is time to start heading back to the US. Can anyone tell me

of

a "good" marina that has yard facilites? I would like to pull

the

main

and generator out of our boat and give the engine room a total
upgrading. We have reservations at a marina in New Bern, NC.,

but

there are no facilites for the work I would like to get done. We

would

prefer to stay in No. Carolina or So. Carolina maybe even

Georgia.

We

plan to get there just about Christmas. Thanks in advance for

any

suggestions.

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266
Bonaire

I used Gloucester point Marina in 2002. The entry is Ok if you follow
the charts. They did good work for me and seem to be very competent in
all areas but I have no idea about their ability with engines. They only
did a service for me. The main job which I had done was a complete
repair and replacement of the genoa furling gear which had been wrecked
by a delivery crew.
Good luck.


Peter A. Aubrey.
SM2000 MAIA #293
peter.aubrey@stme.com

Tony,

Again, I suggest Bay Point Marina, easy trip on the
outside and the yard costs at Cutty Sark are very
fair.
--- rbenven44 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hello Tony,

First of all, you won't be able to get a SM into
New Bern without
removing the main mast first. Read the posts about
doing the ICW
from Norfolk to Beaufort. The tide range isn't
enough to get you
under the fixed bridges.

I have cruised the Carolinas and the East Coast
extensively for
many years. In my opinion, the best yards on the
central East Coast
are in the Chesapeake. Right now, I am hauled out
at Deltaville
Boatyard, near the South end of the Chesapeake.
It's far from any
city, but has good people, very competitive rates,
and can handle a
SM. There are about 150 good-sized sailboats hauled
out here, and
they have competent mechanics. There's not much in
the Carolinas or
Georgia that can compare, except maybe Charleston
City Marina &
Boatyard (But I have no experience with their
boatyard).

Feel free to contact me regarding Deltaville
Boatyard or any other
location on the East Coast.

Regards, Roy on Excalibur, SM # 195


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter"
<agav8ter@...>
wrote:

Hello all,

It is time to start heading back to the US. Can

anyone tell me of

a "good" marina that has yard facilites? I would

like to pull the
main

and generator out of our boat and give the engine

room a total

upgrading. We have reservations at a marina in

New Bern, NC., but

there are no facilites for the work I would like

to get done. We
would

prefer to stay in No. Carolina or So. Carolina

maybe even Georgia.
We

plan to get there just about Christmas. Thanks in

advance for any

suggestions.

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266
Bonaire

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Bay Point Marina and Cutty Sark yard, walking distance
from the marina to the yards (both are at Little Creek
with excellent deep water access and are located in
Norfolk, VA)
--- agav8ter <agav8ter@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello all,

It is time to start heading back to the US. Can
anyone tell me of
a "good" marina that has yard facilites? I would
like to pull the main
and generator out of our boat and give the engine
room a total
upgrading. We have reservations at a marina in New
Bern, NC., but
there are no facilites for the work I would like to
get done. We would
prefer to stay in No. Carolina or So. Carolina maybe
even Georgia. We
plan to get there just about Christmas. Thanks in
advance for any
suggestions.

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266
Bonaire

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Hello Tony,

First of all, you won't be able to get a SM into New Bern without
removing the main mast first. Read the posts about doing the ICW
from Norfolk to Beaufort. The tide range isn't enough to get you
under the fixed bridges.

I have cruised the Carolinas and the East Coast extensively for
many years. In my opinion, the best yards on the central East Coast
are in the Chesapeake. Right now, I am hauled out at Deltaville
Boatyard, near the South end of the Chesapeake. It's far from any
city, but has good people, very competitive rates, and can handle a
SM. There are about 150 good-sized sailboats hauled out here, and
they have competent mechanics. There's not much in the Carolinas or
Georgia that can compare, except maybe Charleston City Marina &
Boatyard (But I have no experience with their boatyard).

Feel free to contact me regarding Deltaville Boatyard or any other
location on the East Coast.

Regards, Roy on Excalibur, SM # 195


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...>
wrote:

Hello all,

It is time to start heading back to the US. Can anyone tell me of
a "good" marina that has yard facilites? I would like to pull the

main

and generator out of our boat and give the engine room a total
upgrading. We have reservations at a marina in New Bern, NC., but
there are no facilites for the work I would like to get done. We

would

prefer to stay in No. Carolina or So. Carolina maybe even Georgia.

We

plan to get there just about Christmas. Thanks in advance for any
suggestions.

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266
Bonaire

Tony, we have had work done at Port Annapolis Marina
in Annapolis. They do good work and are on time.
Price is about average.

Richard SM 209

--- agav8ter <agav8ter@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hello all,

It is time to start heading back to the US. Can
anyone tell me of
a "good" marina that has yard facilites? I would
like to pull the main
and generator out of our boat and give the engine
room a total
upgrading. We have reservations at a marina in New
Bern, NC., but
there are no facilites for the work I would like to
get done. We would
prefer to stay in No. Carolina or So. Carolina maybe
even Georgia. We
plan to get there just about Christmas. Thanks in
advance for any
suggestions.

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266
Bonaire

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Hello all,

It is time to start heading back to the US. Can anyone tell me of
a "good" marina that has yard facilites? I would like to pull the main
and generator out of our boat and give the engine room a total
upgrading. We have reservations at a marina in New Bern, NC., but
there are no facilites for the work I would like to get done. We would
prefer to stay in No. Carolina or So. Carolina maybe even Georgia. We
plan to get there just about Christmas. Thanks in advance for any
suggestions.

Tony Gray
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266
Bonaire

Hi Eric, Yes, I did. I have always put two micron filters in my two in line Racors.Never had a problem till this year. Even then it was a momentary slowing of the revs rather than anything more exciting. Of course it could also have been some air in the line after I had changed a filter but I dont think it was.Cheers, Ian
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Ian,
Did you have this problem with the 2 micron filter while using the pre
filter system that you and I had installed?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

Hi John, how interesting to read of your conversion to 10 micron. I, too, have always used 2 micron for my Racors and had no problem in 5 years in South America until this season when the engine revs dipped two or three times, despite a clean prop and filters that I change every 100 hours. The Volvo engineer back in the UK told me that to use 2 microns on the Racors was very likely the cause of the rev dip and I shall now switch to 10.
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Hi Gary,

Unless the wind goes to the south or the southeast, the 500 mile trip
from the ABC's to Guadeloupe will probably be a motor sail.

Last November on Thanksgiving week, we sailed from Bonaire to St.
Thomas...440 miles at 32 degrees with winds at 20 - 25 kts at 100 to
105 degrees. Our passage took 61.5 hours with an average made good of
7.15 knots. We were pointed about as close to the wind as we could
sail. Our log is at
http://www.svbebe.com/getjealous.php?action=showdiaryentry&diary_id=223696&go=securitysail


With your cutter rig, you might be able to point a couple of degrees
closer. We passed about 5 or 6 miles off of St. Croix's west coast.
If you get winds from 100 - 115, this might be an alternative for you.
BTW, there were several boats in the ABC's that wanted to make the
same run to the Virgins. They decided to wait until after
Thanksgiving week and the wind never got further south than 80
degrees. They slugged their way to Grenada then turned North.

I assume that you know that the fuel at Curacao Yacht Club is clean
and a good buy at about $2.00 USD.

Best,

Bill Rouse
SM2 # 387
s/v BeBe
www.svbebe.com



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "gwollenberg" <bozocinq@...>
wrote:

When I sailed from St Martin to Curacao in May I was with the current
and wind. It was a wonderful sail leaving Monday evening and arriving
in Curacao Thursday @ 6:00PM. Now I am planning on sailing (motoring?)
over Thanksgiving from Curacao to Guadaloupe. I assume that this sail
is against the current and probably into the wind. I would welcome any
suggestion or comments on the best route to go. I have allow myself 6
days.
Thank you in advance for any input any of you may have.

When I sailed from St Martin to Curacao in May I was with the current
and wind. It was a wonderful sail leaving Monday evening and arriving
in Curacao Thursday @ 6:00PM. Now I am planning on sailing (motoring?)
over Thanksgiving from Curacao to Guadaloupe. I assume that this sail
is against the current and probably into the wind. I would welcome any
suggestion or comments on the best route to go. I have allow myself 6
days.
Thank you in advance for any input any of you may have.

Hi all, Let me jump into the filter fray. For years I've used a 2 micron filter as my primary filter ,on my old boat and this Amel, they worked just fine because I was always buying good clean fuel. On this trip south I stocked up on 2 micron filters and took off. Three weeks ago I got a bad load of fuel that cost me all of my 2 micron filters. I was using one every 3 to 6 hours. I limped into a port on my last filter. I had a diesel mechanic come aboard and he told me that I needed to use 10 micron filters for the primary. I then called the Volvo representative in the states, and he told me that Volvo recommends a 10 primary because their secondary on the engine is a 2 micron. I then had the mechanic order me a dozen flown in. I now have the proper filters and have only changed the primary once since then. Ironically, after the incident I was reading an old cruising world magazine,may 2007, and on page 81 there was an article from Zimmerman Marine about the proper filters to use on a diesel engine. He says the same thing except he explains in detail why. I'm now a 10 micron man. As to the gentlemen who wanted advise about taking his Amel down the intercoastal waterway from Norfolk. I'm a license Captain from Norfolk Va. who has made that trip many times in various boats in the last 30 years. My advise to him is " don't even think about it" John SM248 Moondog
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Eric; we have an earlier SM 209 and just mounted a
dual 500 series Raco on the back wall using the Amel
bolts that apear to welded to a plate that CAN NOT be
accessed by way of the aft cabin. I made a wood mount
that works very well. We also installed two Delco
ele. fuel pumps to supply the engine and gen set. As
we found that at about 1/4 tank the fuel follow is
very poor. (note we are using 2 m filter as pre
filters, yes, I know that is very fine however these
are easy to change and that makes for a problem free
engine) We used the engine room fan with a jumper as
the power source and gen set engine run lead to jumper
that pump. This all works very very well. It is not
hard to move the filters using good quality fuel
lines.

Good luck.
Richard and Joan SM 209 Challenge

--- kimberlite@optonline.net wrote:

Paul,
My
racor dual filter came with the Amel comfort package
and the 100 hp yanmar. The problem is that the drain
of the outboard filter is located just 2 inches
above the engine stringer and is very difficult to
use. I purchased a racor brass elbow and drain cock
for this filter but I am having second thoughts
about mounting that heavy metal into the plastic
bowl.

Does anyone know how the
racor filter is attached to the bulkhead? I could
not find the nuts for the bolts that hold the filter
on. I was thinking of moving the filter.


How do feel the
algy-x filter works. I recall practical sailor
didn't thin it worked but they can be wrong.
Fair winds,
Eric
Sm 376 kimberlite



----- Original Message -----
From: Paul LaFrance
Date: Friday, October 19, 2007 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Racor filter
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Bill & Eric
When we installed the Dual system , we put it

between the engine

and genset. In the spot where the filter was

before we installed

an Algae X filter that does not require changing.

On the Racor

we went with a 5MM filter and the other is a 10MM.

Changing

filters is easy now.

Paul
S/V Nomad
----- Original Message -----
From: svbebe
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:03 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Racor filter


Eric,

I agree. My only solution is that I reserve the

outboard

filter for
emergency use only...if anyone can figure out

something

better, I am
all ears.

Bill Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com,

kimberlite@... wrote:

hi,
i have a
yanmar engine with a dual racor filter. the

outboard filter

is very
difficult and messy to drain.

does anyone have a easy solution to this

problem.

also how do you clean under the engine?
fair winds,
eric
sm376 kimberlite


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Paul,
My
racor dual filter came with the Amel comfort package and the 100 hp yanmar. The problem is that the drain of the outboard filter is located just 2 inches above the engine stringer and is very difficult to use. I purchased a racor brass elbow and drain cock for this filter but I am having second thoughts about mounting that heavy metal into the plastic bowl.

Does anyone know how the
racor filter is attached to the bulkhead? I could not find the nuts for the bolts that hold the filter on. I was thinking of moving the filter.


How do feel the
algy-x filter works. I recall practical sailor didn't thin it worked but they can be wrong.
Fair winds,
Eric
Sm 376 kimberlite

I am the owner of SM 2000 MAIA #293 currently berthed at Portomaso, Malta. I had the misfortune to engage a delivery crew to sail MAIA from Tortola to Norfolk in May 2002. The crew decided to use the ICW from Beaufort to Norfolk due to poor weather (and to save time!) They failed to pass under one bridge (I am afraid I can not name it but it was near the Beaufort end) successfully and succeeded in damaging the masthead lights and wind instruments and lopping of the aerials. By some miracle they did not succeed in dismasting her! They also succeeded in wrecking the genoa furling gear (never explained how) which was successfully repaired along with the other damage at the Gloucester point Marina, VA., on receipt of the required parts from Amel. I do not know what the tide state was when they attempted to pass under the bridge but I would certainly advise against an attempt at using the ICW on this sector although it is just possible that at low water one might pass under this
particular bridge. Since they managed to deliver her to Norfolk I assume that the depths were OK but this was over 5 years ago. I sailed round Cape Hatteras myself in November 2002 en route to Ft Lauderdale FL with stops in Charleston SC and St Augustine FL.and had a good trip with no storms or bad weather. Good luck

Peter Aubrey

MAIA SM2000 #293


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Bill & Eric
When we installed the Dual system , we put it between the engine and genset. In the spot where the filter was before we installed an Algae X filter that does not require changing. On the Racor we went with a 5MM filter and the other is a 10MM. Changing filters is easy now.

Paul
S/V Nomad