I have sent in the past an e-mail about the engine not increasing
the revolutions rpm after sailing. I have monitored the problem

I am quite sure now that the problem was due to barnacle growth on
the propeller and not an engine problem. The time necessary to
increase the rpm has been decreased after use of the engine. It
seems that the blades came to the forward position more easily.

I saw also recently that the engine was not able to increase the
revolutions over 2500 rpm and by diving and cleaning the propeller
the engine was able to increase to 3000 so this has been explained.

Now I have a new problem. I found out during last week-end that

oil in the main engine drive has become white. I understand that
this means that sea water has entered the system. I was surprised

I had not a problem with a rope as I have also a rope cutter in

propeller shaft and I have checked one week end ago by diving that
everything was ok. How urgent it is to haul out the boat and

the oil? I do not see a big increase of the liquid height in the

in the engine room.

I need your experience on that. I have to replace the brass ring

the o-rings?

Regards

Dimitris
SM-Alma Libre

I have sent in the past an e-mail about the engine not increasing
the revolutions rpm after sailing. I have monitored the problem

I am quite sure now that the problem was due to barnacle growth on
the propeller and not an engine problem. The time necessary to
increase the rpm has been decreased after use of the engine. It
seems that the blades came to the forward position more easily.

I saw also recently that the engine was not able to increase the
revolutions over 2500 rpm and by diving and cleaning the propeller
the engine was able to increase to 3000 so this has been explained.

Now I have a new problem. I found out during last week-end that

oil in the main engine drive has become white. I understand that
this means that sea water has entered the system. I was surprised

I had not a problem with a rope as I have also a rope cutter in

propeller shaft and I have checked one week end ago by diving that
everything was ok. How urgent it is to haul out the boat and

the oil? I do not see a big increase of the liquid height in the

in the engine room.

I need your experience on that. I have to replace the brass ring

the o-rings?

Regards

Dimitris
SM-Alma Libre

I have sent in the past an e-mail about the engine not increasing
the revolutions rpm after sailing. I have monitored the problem

I am quite sure now that the problem was due to barnacle growth on
the propeller and not an engine problem. The time necessary to
increase the rpm has been decreased after use of the engine. It
seems that the blades came to the forward position more easily.

I saw also recently that the engine was not able to increase the
revolutions over 2500 rpm and by diving and cleaning the propeller
the engine was able to increase to 3000 so this has been explained.

Now I have a new problem. I found out during last week-end that

oil in the main engine drive has become white. I understand that
this means that sea water has entered the system. I was surprised

I had not a problem with a rope as I have also a rope cutter in

propeller shaft and I have checked one week end ago by diving that
everything was ok. How urgent it is to haul out the boat and

the oil? I do not see a big increase of the liquid height in the

in the engine room.

I need your experience on that. I have to replace the brass ring

the o-rings?

Regards

Dimitris
SM-Alma Libre

<

I have had an alarming Email from the owner Yves Martin

311, Blue Marine, which I copy below. Can anyone provide helpful

which I will forward as, for some strange reason their attempts to

this site have been rejected.

Dear Anne and John,
Thank you for your last mail together with the technical details.
As to my salty water, I am sure it comes from the Watermaker, a

with less than 500 hours.
A few weeks ago, I took water at the outlet of the equipment and

rate was so high that the test meter was saying: immeasurable,

2000 ppm. Mixed in the tanks, I had at that time 1335 ppm, but

more when not mixed with marina water.
I had noticed, several months ago, that the good quality light was

after 2 minutes, even with no H.P, so with no production. I was

AMEL that it was normal. At that time I was inclined to believe

At the same time, Another S.M. 2000, a Swiss, told me that the

automatism, which is supposed to survey the salt rate, alert in

quality and send the water back to sea, was not connected. I could

believe that. Now, I am pretty sure it is the truth.
I wrote Patrick WAGNER, M.D. of Dessalator (dessalator@w...)

a few technical information. He always replied without answering

my questions. He finally had to admit that I was right, it was a

choice to send water, even salty, in the tanks. All that, without

of alarm, and leaving the Good Quality light on. Till when????
You can imagine the disasters it can cause on equipment which are

designed for salty water: pump, pipes, expansion tanks, faucets and
thermostats, anti-bacterial ceramic filters Some happened to me

could understand why.

The entire equipment is not in conformity with promotional and

docs and explanation which were provided on commissioning of the

I asked Dessalator to put my installation in conformity with the

still waiting for the answer.
Taking into consideration the high level of risk, I suggest that

should test his equipment: It is easy to see if the good quality

on according to a chronometric basis (~2 min) even without water
production and if there is no voltage arriving at the salinity

Fortunately, it is not as bad as your salt water problem.

As to your HP pump problem, you have to be careful that no air

in function: cavitations with high pressure destroys the valves;

happen if your anti-pulse device is not functioning well, or if

because the boat is listed(?) on portside; The recommended primary

not installed on our boats, and all the water (Engine, genset,

enters by the same hole.

As to the forum question, I got connected, filled an internet

form, had an acknowledgement of receipt, and a few days latter,

mail saying : Not admitted, without explanation.
Another friend of mine was, also, most surprised of this rejection.
I will try again, but..???? I dont understand why they rejected me.

A French speaking forum could also be useful for non English

people. An exchange/ translation could be interesting, but probably
difficult to organise.

My insurance company just advised me of a new increase of price

years). As for you??? Do you know, through the forum, of a

analysis?

Hopefully, we will be able to leave Puerto la Cruz shortly , when

have received the watermaker parts, and we will not be connected

Bonaire, in 3 to 4 weeks.

Greetings from Marie-Christine and Yves.


P.S. Should you be interested, I join my detailed correspondence

with Dessalator. Your are not obliged to read. It is in French,

quite sure yours is good enough to understand, and you could find

from other Yachties.

I have had an alarming Email from the owner Yves Martin d'Aigueperse

311, Blue Marine, which I copy below. Can anyone provide helpful

which I will forward as, for some strange reason their attempts to

this site have been rejected.

Dear Anne and John,
Thank you for your last mail together with the technical details.
As to my salty water, I am sure it comes from the Watermaker, a

with less than 500 hours.
A few weeks ago, I took water at the outlet of the equipment and

rate was so high that the test meter was saying: immeasurable, which

2000 ppm. Mixed in the tanks, I had at that time 1335 ppm, but

more when not mixed with marina water.
I had noticed, several months ago, that the good quality light was

after 2 minutes, even with no H.P, so with no production. I was

AMEL that it was normal. At that time I was inclined to believe

At the same time, Another S.M. 2000, a Swiss, told me that the

automatism, which is supposed to survey the salt rate, alert in case

quality and send the water back to sea, was not connected. I could

believe that. Now, I am pretty sure it is the truth.
I wrote Patrick WAGNER, M.D. of Dessalator (dessalator@w...) asking
a few technical information. He always replied without answering

my questions. He finally had to admit that I was right, it was a

choice to send water, even salty, in the tanks. All that, without

of alarm, and leaving the Good Quality light on. Till when????
You can imagine the disasters it can cause on equipment which are

designed for salty water: pump, pipes, expansion tanks, faucets and
thermostats, anti-bacterial ceramic filters Some happened to me

could understand why.

The entire equipment is not in conformity with promotional and

docs and explanation which were provided on commissioning of the

I asked Dessalator to put my installation in conformity with the

still waiting for the answer.
Taking into consideration the high level of risk, I suggest that

should test his equipment: It is easy to see if the good quality

on according to a chronometric basis (~2 min) even without water
production and if there is no voltage arriving at the salinity

Fortunately, it is not as bad as your salt water problem.

As to your HP pump problem, you have to be careful that no air gets

in function: cavitations with high pressure destroys the valves;

happen if your anti-pulse device is not functioning well, or if air

because the boat is listed(?) on portside; The recommended primary

not installed on our boats, and all the water (Engine, genset,

enters by the same hole.

As to the forum question, I got connected, filled an internet

form, had an acknowledgement of receipt, and a few days latter,

mail saying : Not admitted, without explanation.
Another friend of mine was, also, most surprised of this rejection.
I will try again, but..???? I dont understand why they rejected me.

A French speaking forum could also be useful for non English

people. An exchange/ translation could be interesting, but probably
difficult to organise.

My insurance company just advised me of a new increase of price

years). As for you??? Do you know, through the forum, of a

analysis?

Hopefully, we will be able to leave Puerto la Cruz shortly , when we

have received the watermaker parts, and we will not be connected

Bonaire, in 3 to 4 weeks.

Greetings from Marie-Christine and Yves.


P.S. Should you be interested, I join my detailed correspondence

with Dessalator. Your are not obliged to read. It is in French, but

quite sure yours is good enough to understand, and you could find

from other Yachties.

2000 ppm. Mixed in the tanks, I had at that time 1335 ppm, but certainly

Dear all,

I am considering buying one of the Amel Santorin currently on the
used boats market. There is not much of the info about this Amel
model. I would appreciate any information, experience, plan....
about this boat.
We currently own Bavaria 40 Ocean. With her we have sailed more

4000 miles in Med this year.

Best regards,

Slavko

Eric:
Unless the existing damage makes it impossible to use the second
cable, I would not advise putting the full strain of the rudder on
the autipilot alone: what if the autopilot fails or disengages? You
would have no way of steering the boat and would force you to

only on the emergency tiller.

Alex
s/v Simpatico







--- In amelyachtowners@..., asm283 <no_reply@y...>

Hi Eric

Thanks for the information. Yes I can disconnect the steering and

go

by autopilot. I will do that if I have to but I would rather

or repair the bent rod if possible. I also think that one rod

steer al least on a temporary basis. Any ideas on replacing this

rod

would be helpfull.

Vito



--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite

<kimberlite@o...>

wrote:

Vito,

Can you disconnect the steering cables and steer just using the

autopilot

mounted to the rudder post?

You can also rig the emergency tiller to get to a safer island.

I am glad to hear you made it.

Fairer winds,

Eric

Kimberlite







_____

From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@...]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] help with steering



Hello

My Super Maramu was in Grenada for Ivan. Thankfully she does

seem

to be heavely damaged. However, one of the steering rods that
attaches to the rudder quadrant was bent. Does anyone have any
experience in replacing this item.

In order for me to get the boat out of Grenada I need to

temporarely

repair this item.

can the rod assembly be replaced without replacing the entire

cable.

Has anyone steered the boat with just one rod attached.

Thank you

Vito Ciaravino






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