Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access
wgehrich
Thanks to all who have responded to my multiple questions. The
Amels are wonderful boats made even more appealling by the resource this forum provides. While I was more focussed on identifying the yoga pose that would contort my way to engine access, I hadn't considered embracing the idea of prone maintenance atop the engine. However, a two inch body cushion might make that palatable. Plenty of boats were made with cabin sole engine access that requires this anyway. Thanks Eric and Dave for that insight. --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@...> wrote: work on it more comfortable. I actualy had a cushion made that is approx three and a half feet long by eighteen inchs wide two inches thick that I leave on top of the engine all the time, with no damage to it. It is covered in a heavy fabric, and I just remove the padding and wash it every once in a while. lay over the engine if I have to work on it while it's hot. It's still pretty warm butenables me to work on things without getting burned. Our Maramu has theoriginal Perkins 4-154 and the underway maintenance at the front of theengine has been almost exclusively limited to the raw water pump, whichfortunately can be accessed without bear hugging the engine. But we once blew outthe raw water pump v-belt, which unfortunately was number 3 inwards on thedrive shaft multiple pulley, so had to remove two other belts to replacethe broken one. That did require laying on the engine, and I was veryglad for the EPDM then.to switch?the deep bilge. I am 6'1" 210 lbs and could only reach the front continued typical10" aft. Seems unlikely, but I was wondering if this sounds a month.or if the (original) engine could have been mounted unusually far__________________________________________________________ Intro*Terms2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4 056&p=5117
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Insurance values and SM2000 Yanmar engine access
John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
Hello Ian and Judy,
Noone else came back on insurance values so I have left it at £265k although I suspect this might be on the high side. The valation I got a year ago was from Simon Turner of Berthon's Mallorca office when he was giving me some advice on the value of my berth in Club de Mar which I would like to sell. His address berthonatocea.es I had a problem starting my engine whilst we were in Turkey last year which was intermittent failure of the solenoid on the starboard (hard to get at) side of the engine. I found a very competent mechanic who found the problem but in the process found a lot of scale in the seawater pipe from the big inlet filter. I had never cleaned out the heat exchanger and was surprised to see that there are three of them. The first one is for the hydraulic clutch and that was nearly blocked with loose scale thus limiting the flow to the other two and the water pump. Surprisingly the engine had not been overheating. The next one is the main one and he removed that after pulling the exhaust pipe forward to get it out. This made access to that side of the engine very easy so he changed the impellor. The third unit is just behind the turbo which it cools. I should also mention that he found that the big rubber seal which should be at the bottom of the filter was missing thus allowing small stuff to bypass the filter. Noone but me had ever opened this filter so I guess that it has always beeen like that! It is about three inches in diameter so hard to overlook. I have to say that I was glad that he did all that as it was quite a big job although his bill for 1400 euros seemed impressive. Did you get to meet my friend Robin Knox Johnson when he stopped for repairs at Ushu??? a week ago? Best wishes, Anne and John SM319
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access
Eric Lindholm
Like David I have a pad that I use to make laying on the engine to work on it more comfortable. I actualy had a cushion made that is approx three and a half feet long by eighteen inchs wide two inches thick that I leave on top of the engine all the time, with no damage to it. It is covered in a heavy fabric, and I just remove the padding and wash it every once in a while.
Eric Maramu 105 David Wallace <svairops@hotmail.com> wrote: I carry a rolled-up 3' x 3' piece of 1/4" EPDM that I lay over the engine if I have to work on it while it's hot. It's still pretty warm but enables me to work on things without getting burned. Our Maramu has the original Perkins 4-154 and the underway maintenance at the front of the engine has been almost exclusively limited to the raw water pump, which fortunately can be accessed without bear hugging the engine. But we once blew out the raw water pump v-belt, which unfortunately was number 3 inwards on the drive shaft multiple pulley, so had to remove two other belts to replace the broken one. That did require laying on the engine, and I was very glad for the EPDM then. Dave s/v Air Ops Maramu #104 From: "wgehrich" <gdehrich@mail.com>__________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access
David Wallace
I carry a rolled-up 3' x 3' piece of 1/4" EPDM that I lay over the engine if I have to work on it while it's hot. It's still pretty warm but enables me to work on things without getting burned. Our Maramu has the original Perkins 4-154 and the underway maintenance at the front of the engine has been almost exclusively limited to the raw water pump, which fortunately can be accessed without bear hugging the engine. But we once blew out the raw water pump v-belt, which unfortunately was number 3 inwards on the drive shaft multiple pulley, so had to remove two other belts to replace the broken one. That did require laying on the engine, and I was very glad for the EPDM then.
Dave s/v Air Ops Maramu #104 From: "wgehrich" <gdehrich@mail.com>_________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance values
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi John, Only just read yr email on values. The Amel agent in the UK, Martin Bandey, reckoned last September that we might get 280,000 pnds for Pen Azen ( SM 302, launched June 2000).
I would be happy to pay the extra premium if in fact she was worth much more! Did you get any more info on values? Who was the Mallorca agent? Cheers, Ian Jenkins From: "John and Anne on Bali Hai" <annejohn@melita.net>_________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. http://www.msn.txt4content.com/
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Genset Routine Service ??s
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Gary, Only now seen your Onan enquiry. I have had my valve lash serviced twice, once in St Maarten by a very nice Dutch lad who was the Onan agent. He said only one needed adjustment but that he slackened off the drive belt a little as he said they are often fitted slightly over tight by the factory.
The second time I had it done was by a competent but non-Onan engineer in Brazil.Having seen both guys at work it looks a pretty elememtary job. I cant remember what I paid but it was not a long job and the cost was inconsequential. On another tack, my D 60 membranes have now done 1500 hours. Having wrtitten them off a few weeks ago, while I was waiting for replacements to arrive I cleaned the old ones with acid and alkali and they are now producing 40 lph at about 700-850 TDS in water temp of between 6 and 10 Centigrade . The only drawback is that it sometimes takes about 10 minutes for the TDS level to come down to something acceptable. What I draw from this is that membranes are pretty rugged bits of kit. I couldnt agree more with you that you only need three switches and a TDS meterto run a watermaker.What all the other things are remons a complete mystery. Fair winds, Ian and Judy Jenkins, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ushuaia. From: amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>_________________________________________________________________ Exclusive Ed Byrne daily comedy clips on MSN Video http://specials.uk.msn.com/edbyrne/
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access
WILLIAM KLEIN <sidecar1@...>
Graham, I have been on vacation , so if you have previously mentioned that you are looking to purchase a boat, I missed your notice. As Joel pointed out my boat is available for sale at this time. She is in very good mechanical condition and if you wish further details please e-mail me at sidecar1@verizon.net and I will then gice you my phone number.--- Bill Klein
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From: Joel F. Potter To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: FW: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access Hi Graham, I'm biased for sure but most boats in the size and price range described by an AMEL Maramu don't have an engine room and the ships machinery is stuffed under the companionway. Access to components, ALL the components, in a Maramu is better than all but a few other boats. Unless the AMEL you looked at was modified, neither the bilge pump or the bilge pump switch is mounted immersed in the bilge. We consider it a recipe for failure to put the bilge pump and its' switch under water. The bilge pump is, normally, a diaphragm type and the switch is actuated by a float. Both the switch and the pump are high and dry on a 1985 Maramu. You should consider Bill Klein's Maramu. I sold it to him. He has done right by the boat and, more importantly, he knows what he is doing. Many new owners of used AMEL'S do more harm than good with ill considered "improvements". If you get an AMEL, insist that the owner spend at least 3 days with you teaching you all the systems and then don't improve anything until you live with the boat for a while. Good luck in your search for a nice Maramu. They get harder to find every year. All the best, Joel F. Potter AMEL 54 Hull # 14 "HOLLIS" _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wgehrich Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:42 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access I inspected a 1985 Maramu today and was extremely impressed with almost every aspect of the design and construction. The one thing that troubles me is access to the front of the engine and access to the deep bilge. I am 6'1" 210 lbs and could only reach the front mounted alternator and pumps by bear hugging the engine (not a fun prospect on a hot engine). There seemed to be no way I could reach into the bilge. Is there a trick I am missing or do you just have to be smaller of frame to get to the front of the engine? Also, how to you remove a dropped item from the bilge or change the bilge pump and/or switch? I also noticed that there was maybe 8"-10" of shaft between the transmission and shaft seal and the engine bedding looked it continued 10" aft. Seems unlikely, but I was wondering if this sounds typical or if the (original) engine could have been mounted unusually far forward.
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FW: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access
amelforme
Hi Graham,
I'm biased for sure but most boats in the size and price range described by an AMEL Maramu don't have an engine room and the ships machinery is stuffed under the companionway. Access to components, ALL the components, in a Maramu is better than all but a few other boats. Unless the AMEL you looked at was modified, neither the bilge pump or the bilge pump switch is mounted immersed in the bilge. We consider it a recipe for failure to put the bilge pump and its' switch under water. The bilge pump is, normally, a diaphragm type and the switch is actuated by a float. Both the switch and the pump are high and dry on a 1985 Maramu. You should consider Bill Klein's Maramu. I sold it to him. He has done right by the boat and, more importantly, he knows what he is doing. Many new owners of used AMEL'S do more harm than good with ill considered "improvements". If you get an AMEL, insist that the owner spend at least 3 days with you teaching you all the systems and then don't improve anything until you live with the boat for a while. Good luck in your search for a nice Maramu. They get harder to find every year. All the best, Joel F. Potter AMEL 54 Hull # 14 "HOLLIS" _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wgehrich Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:42 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access I inspected a 1985 Maramu today and was extremely impressed with almost every aspect of the design and construction. The one thing that troubles me is access to the front of the engine and access to the deep bilge. I am 6'1" 210 lbs and could only reach the front mounted alternator and pumps by bear hugging the engine (not a fun prospect on a hot engine). There seemed to be no way I could reach into the bilge. Is there a trick I am missing or do you just have to be smaller of frame to get to the front of the engine? Also, how to you remove a dropped item from the bilge or change the bilge pump and/or switch? I also noticed that there was maybe 8"-10" of shaft between the transmission and shaft seal and the engine bedding looked it continued 10" aft. Seems unlikely, but I was wondering if this sounds typical or if the (original) engine could have been mounted unusually far forward.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access
wgehrich
Bill,
Yes, I forgot the aftermost engine component was not the transmission, but the shaft generator, which I believe was standard equipment. Have you found a way to wedge yourself under the forward cockpit lip on either/both of the port or starboard sides so that you can inspect/repair from the side, or do you end up leaning over the engine to service items mounted on the front of the engine? BTW, the boat I inspected is not mine, my wife and I are prospective purchasers. A fellow south Floridian was kind enough to show us his. Graham --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "WILLIAM KLEIN" <sidecar1@...> wrote: use a magnet , hook or some type of grabber tool that mechanics use. The placement of your engine is the same as on my 1981 Maramu. Do you have a propeller shaft generator between the trans and shaft seal as does mine? Bill Klein, SV POPEYE ----- Original Message -----thing that troubles me is access to the front of the engine and accessto the deep bilge. I am 6'1" 210 lbs and could only reach the frontfun prospect on a hot engine). There seemed to be no way I couldreach into the bilge.of frame to get to the front of the engine? Also, how to you removea dropped item from the bilge or change the bilge pump and/orswitch? continued 10" aft. Seems unlikely, but I was wondering if this soundstypical or if the (original) engine could have been mounted unusuallyfar forward.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access
WILLIAM KLEIN <sidecar1@...>
The bilge sump is unaccessable by human hand. You would have to use a magnet , hook or some type of grabber tool that mechanics use. The placement of your engine is the same as on my 1981 Maramu. Do you have a propeller shaft generator between the trans and shaft seal as does mine? Bill Klein, SV POPEYE
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From: wgehrich To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu engine access I inspected a 1985 Maramu today and was extremely impressed with almost every aspect of the design and construction. The one thing that troubles me is access to the front of the engine and access to the deep bilge. I am 6'1" 210 lbs and could only reach the front mounted alternator and pumps by bear hugging the engine (not a fun prospect on a hot engine). There seemed to be no way I could reach into the bilge. Is there a trick I am missing or do you just have to be smaller of frame to get to the front of the engine? Also, how to you remove a dropped item from the bilge or change the bilge pump and/or switch? I also noticed that there was maybe 8"-10" of shaft between the transmission and shaft seal and the engine bedding looked it continued 10" aft. Seems unlikely, but I was wondering if this sounds typical or if the (original) engine could have been mounted unusually far forward.
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Maramu engine access
wgehrich
I inspected a 1985 Maramu today and was extremely impressed with
almost every aspect of the design and construction. The one thing that troubles me is access to the front of the engine and access to the deep bilge. I am 6'1" 210 lbs and could only reach the front mounted alternator and pumps by bear hugging the engine (not a fun prospect on a hot engine). There seemed to be no way I could reach into the bilge. Is there a trick I am missing or do you just have to be smaller of frame to get to the front of the engine? Also, how to you remove a dropped item from the bilge or change the bilge pump and/or switch? I also noticed that there was maybe 8"-10" of shaft between the transmission and shaft seal and the engine bedding looked it continued 10" aft. Seems unlikely, but I was wondering if this sounds typical or if the (original) engine could have been mounted unusually far forward.
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Re: Dessalator Water Maker Logic Board
drdavegoodman
I'm wondering how old the circuit board was when it failed? On older
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Amels, perhaps it would be wise to carry an spare circuit board. Do any of you carry a spare circuit board, or know of people who do?
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy" <sailingjudy@...> wrote:
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Re: Dessalator Water Maker Logic Board
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Hi Bill:
Regarding: "All lights went out on the panel and would not come back on. I amI suspect that a component in the power rectifier circuit failed. This would shut down all power to the logic circuits including all the LED indicators plus the Green LED on the circuit board. This whole board could be replaced by a couple of switches because all it does is act as a timer for starting the low pressure pump and then the high pressure pump. The by-pass solenoid is activated on a timer basis also since it isn't connected to the Dessalator salinity sensor. Instead of several relays there could just as easily be several switches with human input acting as the timer. Switch #1 : Switches 24 VDC to the Low Pressure Pump Control Relay and starts the pump. Switch #2 : Switches 24 VDC to the High Pressure Pump Control Relay and starts that pump Swithc #3 : Switches 24 VDC to the By-pass Solenoid and activates this solenoid This last switch (i.e. relay) can be wired to a real salinity sensor so that nothing gets to the fresh water tank until the water is truely safe. The salinity sensor that I have recommended has a relay control circuit incorporated. I am glad you system is working again. Sorry it cost so much. Gary
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Re: Dessalator Water Maker Logic Board
Gary,
The replacement board was identical. I gave the old board to the tech who helped me with the diagnosis. All lights went out on the panel and would not come back on. I am not positive about the green light on the board, but I am fairly sure it was out as well. I did check power to the board when it was switched "ON" and the board was receiving 24 VDC power. The fuses on the board were good. While I was running the watermaker, it simply quit. I will see if I can get the board back for you. Bill --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote: about the details, i.e. what LEDs were lit when it quit?, was the green LEDon the circuit board on after the failure?, did the high pressure pumptrip off, did the diversion valve energize?, did the low pressure pump keepme for analysis.wrote: not board,restart. We checked everything, breakers, fuses on the logic etc. We had it serviced by Electec in St. Martin.
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Desalinator Membrane Assembly O-Ring Specifications
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
22 Feb 2007
Hi All: I uploaded the O-ring Specifications to the Files section, Desalinator Technical Folder for future refenece. Gary Silver s/v Liahona
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Re: WATERMAKER MEMBRANE O-RINGS
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Lady Divina:
These are two posts that I made earlier that have the info you desire: 21 Jun 2006Eric: I purchased my 0-rings from a local vendor here in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA, called Hydra Pak 1-801-973-7325 . Any local supplier of O-rings should have these O-rings since they are common type. If all else fails let me know and I will get you some, but shipping might cost more than the O-rings. Gary & 18 June 2006 I located my receipt for the O-rings I purchased for the watermaker and they are as follows: 9.0 by 1.5 mm N70 (Interconnect Bobbin O-rings) 19.0 by 2.5 mm N70 (Membrane Nipple O-rings) 53.0 X 3.5 mm N70 (End Cap O-rings) N70 = Nitrile (Buna) 0-rings. Cost for 10 of each was $6.30 USD Gary Silver --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "L. CAMERON" <solarconstruction@...> wrote: O-RINGS ON THE DESAL. DUO-60 MEMBRANES WITH HYDRA IN SALT LAKE CITY OR OTHER SUPPLIER?? THANKS, LADY DIVINA SM317
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WATERMAKER MEMBRANE O-RINGS
L. CAMERON <solarconstruction@...>
FROM: LADY DIVINA, SM317
CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH THE EXACT SIZE AND/OR PART NUMBER FOR THE O-RINGS ON THE DESAL. DUO-60 MEMBRANES WITH HYDRA IN SALT LAKE CITY OR OTHER SUPPLIER?? THANKS, LADY DIVINA SM317 --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor windlass seals for Amel Maramu
north
Hello Mark,
You most likely have a Lofrans 'Tigres' windlass with a low voltage foot-switch added by Amel. The following link has a few links to download the various manuals and documentation for you windlass. http://www.ahoycaptain.com/shop/lofrans.tigres.html Cheers! North Pitney BetaLab Amel Sharki #30 Oakland, CA On Feb 22, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Shann, Mark V wrote: Hi there, I have a 1985 Maramu with a foredeck anchor windlass, which[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor windlass seals for Amel Maramu
Lars Knudsen <museum@...>
Hi Mark
I had the same problem on my Santorin and just wrote an email to Amel in La Rochelle. They promptly sent me four new 'rubber boots' in a small envelope - and still no invoice. Best regards Lars Santorin #79 From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shann, Mark V Sent: 22. februar 2007 20:20 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor windlass seals for Amel Maramu Hi there, I have a 1985 Maramu with a foredeck anchor windlass, which has two black rubber seals on its top. These seals are now worn and no longer watreproof, a good way to get a mild electric shock - try and use them on a wet deck! Can anyone help me identify a source to replace these seals and indeed what is the anchor windlass name and model on the Maramu - I do not have any manuals. Many thanks, fair winds Best Regards, Mark Shann Amel Maramu SYNNEFOULA Marmaris
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Anchor windlass seals for Amel Maramu
Shann, Mark V <shannmv@...>
Hi there, I have a 1985 Maramu with a foredeck anchor windlass, which
has two black rubber seals on its top. These seals are now worn and no longer watreproof, a good way to get a mild electric shock - try and use them on a wet deck! Can anyone help me identify a source to replace these seals and indeed what is the anchor windlass name and model on the Maramu - I do not have any manuals. Many thanks, fair winds Best Regards, Mark Shann Amel Maramu SYNNEFOULA Marmaris
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