Hi Judy:

I kept my boat at Manuel Reef Marina from Dec 2004 to June 2004 and it has been there
again since November of 2005. Jim Woods is the manager and a knowledgeable Amel guy.
Not only that he is an extremely nice guy. He will even do some minor provisioning for
you to get you thru the first day or two aboard if you ask. He does care taking on my boat
and watches the lines etc. There can be surge conditions at times in the marina
warranting good fender placement and good line adjusting. Yet there has never been
anything major.

I always enter and leave on a high tide (the tide is typically only about 12 to 18 inches).
There is a well-marked channel going into the marina and you must use the slips on the
south east side of the dock. There is plenty of depth there but inadequate water on the
north west side of the dock. Also stay close to the finger docks when maneuvering. The
finger docks aren't wide enough to accommodate an Amel and any other significantly
sized boat side by side so you usually get a slip all to yourself and can stand the boat off
well from the dock to ease the situation when there is some surge.

The only problem you might have entering/leaving is through the last two sets of red-
green channel markers as that is the shallowest part. It can be 6 ft 6 inches here (or
slightly more shallow) at low tide. I have been stuck there once (full fuel, full water, 6
people and junk) and had to kedge off. On a high tide I have never touched bottom going
in or out. It seems to be deeper (and Jim advises) to stay towards the red markers for the
deepest water.

The price is right here as well. It is about $650 per month without caretaking which is
about half of what it is in Nanny Cay (where I couldn't get a slip even 18 months in
advance).

Regards, Gary

Gary,
There is nothing behind the valve except the white plastic screen.
You will need a VERY thin wrench to disconnect the shut off valve from the
fuel pipe.
We used to call that type of wrench a tappet wrench. I could only get it (as
it is metric) from McMaster Carr. I believe that our filters stay so clean
as the fuel is drawn off the bottom of the tank. Thus, you never get a
biology experiment growing in your yank- unlike US boats that have a pickup
tube and allow stuff to build up in the tank.

With careful use of a soft copper pipe as your pickup tube on the "tank
vacuum" you can get to almost all of the tank from the forward inspection
port as there are holes very low in the baffles that allow the pipe to snake
into the other chambers.

I have attached a pix of the Racor system used to pre filter the fuel.
Mine is identical to this one from Ian & Judy Jenkins amel Pen Azen.


Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

Thanks, Eric. We will probably use your process for the next time, but it
looks now like we might be somewhat rushed for time in May because of
impending business requirements. So will be happy to pay someone to handle
it for us this first time. Nice to know that it can be done simply. Thanks
for the instructions.

Judy Rouse
s/v Security
SM2 #387

Great idea Eric. I really hadn't thought of doing this my self but it sounds rather straight
forward. Do you know if there is a stand-pipe of some sort that sticks up inside the tank
at the bottom of the tank where the fuel outlet goes to the shut off valve? I have been
careful with all the fuel I have put in my tank but even so I am surprised at how little
shows up in my Racor filters and wonder if there is time bomb waiting to go off with
retained material in the bottom of the tank.

Thanks, Gary

Thanks very much, Gary. Will call him tomorrow. Also glad to hear that
your boat is there now. I had looked up info on Manuel Reef Marina and it
states that the maximum draft in their slips is 6'6" so wasn't sure if an
Amel would fit in there. Great info. Most helpful.

Judy Rouse
s/v Security
SM2 #387

Judy,
The fuel polishing is very simple and can be done with a 500-turbine Racor
filter, an electric transfer pump some fuel hose and 3 feet of copper
tubing. You make a vacuum cleaner gadget with this, remove the inspection
ports and vacuum away.
We also had a 100gpm Racor filter and a 13 gpm fuel transfer pump added to
our fuel system and filter the fuel before it goes into the tank.

I have polished my tanks for the last 10 years myself.

There is also a screen at the bottom of the tank that is accessible only by
removing the shut off valve at the bottom of the tank. It is very similar
material as the screens in the shower drains.
This is where you will get a clog and can not be cleaned by polishing the
tank.
Of course the tank has to be empty to do this.


Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...> wrote:

Jim Woods of Woods Marine Services at the Manuel Reef Marina in Sea Cow Bay, Tortola

has this capability. His equipment appears to be state of the art. I've seen it used on
several boats there. Jim's phone is 284 495-2066 and FAX 284 495-1431. My boat is in
a slip at this marina currently.

Gary Silver s/v Liahona

Judy the fuel was done in Ft. Lauderdale. However there is a fellow
at Manuel Reef Marina (Sea Cows Bay, right near Nanny Cay) that does
the same thing. Can't remember his name but he is the manager of
the marina.

We hope to see you in Trellis!!!! We are easy to find as we are the
scond to the farthest out!! And , but of course, an Amel!!

Tony


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Rouse" <judyrouse@>
wrote:

Tony,

Did you have the fuel tank cleaned and fuel polished in BVI or

elsewhere?

Our boat is also currently lying in BVI and we would like to do

the same.

We won't be back down there until May. Will try to stop by

Trellis Bay &

share that Sundowner and conversation before we head south.

Thanks,


Judy
S/V Security
SM2 #387



-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agav8ter
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

Hello Gary,

What a good idea! Of course I would start bt reaing the engine

down

only to fine the fuel shut off valve half closed!!! I am in
Paramaribo, Suriname at the moment, but will return to Tortola in

a

few days, and will certainly check it out. I did have the tank
cleaned and fuel polished right after I bought the boat, so your
suggestion would be an easy fix!

BTW: WORLD CITIZEN is on a mooring at Trellis Bay, Tortola BVI,

and

any Amel's are certainly welcome to stop by for a Sundowner and
conversation. We should be there for quite sometime.

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN SM#266

The manager of Manuel reef marina is Jim Woods,
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

hi,

just posted some pics of the Amel 54 pics i took at last years
Southampton Boat Show

these are small pics if anyone wants/needs the big versions contact me
directly

regards

David

Judy the fuel was done in Ft. Lauderdale. However there is a fellow
at Manuel Reef Marina (Sea Cows Bay, right near Nanny Cay) that does
the same thing. Can't remember his name but he is the manager of
the marina.

We hope to see you in Trellis!!!! We are easy to find as we are the
scond to the farthest out!! And , but of course, an Amel!!

Tony


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Rouse" <judyrouse@...>
wrote:

Tony,

Did you have the fuel tank cleaned and fuel polished in BVI or

elsewhere?

Our boat is also currently lying in BVI and we would like to do

the same.

We won't be back down there until May. Will try to stop by

Trellis Bay &

share that Sundowner and conversation before we head south.

Thanks,


Judy
S/V Security
SM2 #387



-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agav8ter
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

Hello Gary,

What a good idea! Of course I would start bt reaing the engine

down

only to fine the fuel shut off valve half closed!!! I am in
Paramaribo, Suriname at the moment, but will return to Tortola in

a

few days, and will certainly check it out. I did have the tank
cleaned and fuel polished right after I bought the boat, so your
suggestion would be an easy fix!

BTW: WORLD CITIZEN is on a mooring at Trellis Bay, Tortola BVI,

and

any Amel's are certainly welcome to stop by for a Sundowner and
conversation. We should be there for quite sometime.

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN SM#266

Tony,

Did you have the fuel tank cleaned and fuel polished in BVI or elsewhere?
Our boat is also currently lying in BVI and we would like to do the same.

We won't be back down there until May. Will try to stop by Trellis Bay &
share that Sundowner and conversation before we head south.

Thanks,


Judy
S/V Security
SM2 #387

Hello Gary,

What a good idea! Of course I would start bt reaing the engine down
only to fine the fuel shut off valve half closed!!! I am in
Paramaribo, Suriname at the moment, but will return to Tortola in a
few days, and will certainly check it out. I did have the tank
cleaned and fuel polished right after I bought the boat, so your
suggestion would be an easy fix!

BTW: WORLD CITIZEN is on a mooring at Trellis Bay, Tortola BVI, and
any Amel's are certainly welcome to stop by for a Sundowner and
conversation. We should be there for quite sometime.

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN SM#266

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@>

wrote:

Tony:

This is a simple thing but once when I couldn't get adequate RPM

from my Yanmar (SM

Hull # 335), and after I checked everything else I found that the

fuel shut off valve had

been bumped and was slightly restrictive of fuel flow. Have you

checked to make sure you

don't have excess fuel suction? Other things would be restricted

fuel filters etc. The

engine would start and run fine but just wouldn't develope full

RPM (power).

Just my two cents worth.

Gary Silver

Hello all,
We have a S/M #266 and it is fairly new to us. Question: #266

has the

Volvo engine that has a sticker on it saying built by Perkins,

we were

told it is 80hp. We also have the Amel autoprop. The prop

itself is

clean and the roller bearings that are visable are clean. The

blades

rotate easily. When in calm water she will run at about 7.5 kts

wide

open, but she will only turn up 2,200 RPM. The Volvo manual

says it

should turn up over 4000 RPM. In rough water and head winds, at

2,200

RPM we are lucky to get 3 to 4 kts. Is this a typical situation

for a

SM? Sure seems overpitched. Does not make much smoke and runs

at

90C. Ideas? Thanks for your help. Tony

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...> wrote:

Tony:

This is a simple thing but once when I couldn't get adequate RPM from my Yanmar (SM
Hull # 335), and after I checked everything else I found that the fuel shut off valve had
been bumped and was slightly restrictive of fuel flow. Have you checked to make sure you
don't have excess fuel suction? Other things would be restricted fuel filters etc. The
engine would start and run fine but just wouldn't develope full RPM (power).

Just my two cents worth.

Gary Silver

Hello all,
We have a S/M #266 and it is fairly new to us. Question: #266 has the
Volvo engine that has a sticker on it saying built by Perkins, we were
told it is 80hp. We also have the Amel autoprop. The prop itself is
clean and the roller bearings that are visable are clean. The blades
rotate easily. When in calm water she will run at about 7.5 kts wide
open, but she will only turn up 2,200 RPM. The Volvo manual says it
should turn up over 4000 RPM. In rough water and head winds, at 2,200
RPM we are lucky to get 3 to 4 kts. Is this a typical situation for a
SM? Sure seems overpitched. Does not make much smoke and runs at
90C. Ideas? Thanks for your help. Tony

Hi Tony

If you go trough the archives of this site you will see that the low
RPM problem is almost exclusively caused by carbon built up in the
turbo. The side of the turbo that this accurs is on the side by the
heat exchange and muffler. I remember reading a post that explains
the process of cleaning the turbo. I have had 2 Super Maramus with
this engine and both times it was the turbo.

Good luck

Vito

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...>
wrote:

Hello Vito,

Thanks for the reply. I was hoping that it was in the prop, as I
removed the ducting from the intake side of the turbo (this was

when

I was first looking at her) and was able to rotate the turbine

drive

wheel easily. That is where I would expect the carbon deposits,

not

in the actual compressor side. Do you agree? When I went to the
Volvo manual it said that at the operating RPM I am gettng the
engine is only putting out 33HP. (This from memory so my numbers
might be off a bit. I am in Suriname right now and the boat in the
BVI) I also checcked to see if the wastegate valve was stuck, and
it appears to be working correctly.

I do appreciate you reply and any others you might suggest. This
board is a wealth of info!!!! I can't wait to have my wife read
about how to repaint the stripes on the decks!!!!!

Tony

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, asm283 <no_reply@> wrote:

Hello Tony

This is not an uncommon accurence on the Volvo 80hp. What you

need

done is to have the turbo charger removed and have the carbon

inside

the turbo removed. This is not a big deal so dont let your

mechanic

make it one. What happens is that carbon deposits built up

inside

the turbo housing and stop the turbo from rotating. Thus the
reduction in power. Once this is done and all things being clean

you

should be able to run at 2700 to 2800 RPM and have a speed of

about

8.5 knots.

Hope this helps

Vito

WANDERER ASM#283

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@>
wrote:

Hello all,
We have a S/M #266 and it is fairly new to us. Question: #266

has

the

Volvo engine that has a sticker on it saying built by Perkins,

we

were

told it is 80hp. We also have the Amel autoprop. The prop

itself

is

clean and the roller bearings that are visable are clean. The

blades

rotate easily. When in calm water she will run at about 7.5

kts

wide

open, but she will only turn up 2,200 RPM. The Volvo manual

says

it

should turn up over 4000 RPM. In rough water and head winds,

at

2,200

RPM we are lucky to get 3 to 4 kts. Is this a typical

situation

for a

SM? Sure seems overpitched. Does not make much smoke and

runs

at

90C. Ideas? Thanks for your help. Tony

Hello Vito,

Thanks for the reply. I was hoping that it was in the prop, as I
removed the ducting from the intake side of the turbo (this was when
I was first looking at her) and was able to rotate the turbine drive
wheel easily. That is where I would expect the carbon deposits, not
in the actual compressor side. Do you agree? When I went to the
Volvo manual it said that at the operating RPM I am gettng the
engine is only putting out 33HP. (This from memory so my numbers
might be off a bit. I am in Suriname right now and the boat in the
BVI) I also checcked to see if the wastegate valve was stuck, and
it appears to be working correctly.

I do appreciate you reply and any others you might suggest. This
board is a wealth of info!!!! I can't wait to have my wife read
about how to repaint the stripes on the decks!!!!!

Tony

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, asm283 <no_reply@...> wrote:

Hello Tony

This is not an uncommon accurence on the Volvo 80hp. What you need
done is to have the turbo charger removed and have the carbon

inside

the turbo removed. This is not a big deal so dont let your

mechanic

make it one. What happens is that carbon deposits built up inside
the turbo housing and stop the turbo from rotating. Thus the
reduction in power. Once this is done and all things being clean

you

should be able to run at 2700 to 2800 RPM and have a speed of

about

8.5 knots.

Hope this helps

Vito

WANDERER ASM#283

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@>
wrote:

Hello all,
We have a S/M #266 and it is fairly new to us. Question: #266

has

the

Volvo engine that has a sticker on it saying built by Perkins,

we

were

told it is 80hp. We also have the Amel autoprop. The prop

itself

is

clean and the roller bearings that are visable are clean. The

blades

rotate easily. When in calm water she will run at about 7.5 kts

wide

open, but she will only turn up 2,200 RPM. The Volvo manual

says

it

should turn up over 4000 RPM. In rough water and head winds, at

2,200

RPM we are lucky to get 3 to 4 kts. Is this a typical situation

for a

SM? Sure seems overpitched. Does not make much smoke and runs

at

90C. Ideas? Thanks for your help. Tony

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Eric:

Peter Grimm's Company is Super Sailmakers, of Ft. Lauderdale. He is who Joel
recommended to me. He has built lots of 110% Jibs for Amel SMs. His phone is 954
522-4663.

They call the 110% a "Carribean Blaster". It is 502 square feet, of 9.5 oz low aspect
Dacron and has a foam luff with a UV boarder. You need 135 ft of sheet. Peter
recommended 1/2 inch line for the sheets and I have found that 1/2 inch is a little too
small for our jib sheet winches. I have to put at least 5 turns on to prevent slippage.

I purchased the sail last year and the price was $ 2,684 USD with Joel's referral discount. I
had a chance to use it for the first time last month in the BVI. What a great sail. I find I
can point about 5 to 8 degrees higher (about 45 degrees), have speeds that match the
Gateff 155% and it seems to be more foregiving of poor trimming. I am very impressed.
Of course I was sailing in 15-25 knots of wind the whole time but I could sail completely
un-furled where I would have had the 155% furled up during most of that last trip.

Sorry to butt into your thread but I am so impressed with this sail that I couldn't resist.

Regards, Gary Silver s/v Liahona Hull # 335> John,

Nice speaking to you yesterday.
Were you able to find the name of the sail maker in Ft Lauderdale that made
your 110?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

Hello Tony

This is not an uncommon accurence on the Volvo 80hp. What you need
done is to have the turbo charger removed and have the carbon inside
the turbo removed. This is not a big deal so dont let your mechanic
make it one. What happens is that carbon deposits built up inside
the turbo housing and stop the turbo from rotating. Thus the
reduction in power. Once this is done and all things being clean you
should be able to run at 2700 to 2800 RPM and have a speed of about
8.5 knots.

Hope this helps

Vito

WANDERER ASM#283

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...>
wrote:

Hello all,
We have a S/M #266 and it is fairly new to us. Question: #266 has

the

Volvo engine that has a sticker on it saying built by Perkins, we

were

told it is 80hp. We also have the Amel autoprop. The prop itself

is

clean and the roller bearings that are visable are clean. The

blades

rotate easily. When in calm water she will run at about 7.5 kts

wide

open, but she will only turn up 2,200 RPM. The Volvo manual says

it

should turn up over 4000 RPM. In rough water and head winds, at

2,200

RPM we are lucky to get 3 to 4 kts. Is this a typical situation

for a

SM? Sure seems overpitched. Does not make much smoke and runs at
90C. Ideas? Thanks for your help. Tony

Hello all,
We have a S/M #266 and it is fairly new to us. Question: #266 has the
Volvo engine that has a sticker on it saying built by Perkins, we were
told it is 80hp. We also have the Amel autoprop. The prop itself is
clean and the roller bearings that are visable are clean. The blades
rotate easily. When in calm water she will run at about 7.5 kts wide
open, but she will only turn up 2,200 RPM. The Volvo manual says it
should turn up over 4000 RPM. In rough water and head winds, at 2,200
RPM we are lucky to get 3 to 4 kts. Is this a typical situation for a
SM? Sure seems overpitched. Does not make much smoke and runs at
90C. Ideas? Thanks for your help. Tony

John,
Nice speaking to you yesterday.
Were you able to find the name of the sail maker in Ft Lauderdale that made
your 110?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

Hi Dennis

In the Perkins at least, the heat exchanger has its own zinc which should be changed each year as a service item. Low down at the aft end of the exchanger and quite accessible is a normal looking bolt which, if you unscrew it will look just a like a flat plug, because the zinc, a tube shape of a few centimetres length, will have worn away. Take the plug to a good chandlery and you should find a replacement easily. I believe there is also an exchangeable zinc plug for the water heater but not on my boat.

Regards, Roger, Zorba, Mango 28