Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor windlass seals for Amel Maramu
svmalaika@...
Marc,
If your Maramu is like my previous one (Hull 102) the windless is a Lofrans Tigres. AMEL supplied me with replacement rub <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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Re: Butane and propane systems
edmund_steele
Gary,
I purchased propane regulators from a local propane supplier in the USA. The regulators are attached via a hose adaptor. I cut the rubber hose supplying the existing butane regulators, inserted the propane regulator into the cut end of the "butane" hose and secured it with two hose clamps. This very simply solved all of the "thread" matching problems of US versus European hose ends! I replaced both of the Amel supplied regulators but I see no reason why you could not modify just one regulator. Then you just have to find a propane tank that will fit in the same space as the butane tank. I don't have the butane tanks any longer but I expect a ten pound propane tank will fit in the same space as a 5 kilo butane tank. According to the stove manufacturer for the Super Maramu, the top stove burners required no modification between propane or butane use but the air tube for the oven burner required a simple adjustment. Ed Steele SV DoodleBug (SM#331) www.sv-doodlebug.com --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "gwollenberg" <gary@...> wrote: Butane system. However, St Martine is propane. Has anybody set up a system
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Butane and propane systems
gwollenberg <gary@...>
I have just arrived in St Martin from Europe. My Amel 54 has the Butane
system. However, St Martine is propane. Has anybody set up a system that you can set up a propane system and butane system that you can switch between systems?? Thank you, Gary Wollenberg, Vessel "Bozo Cinq"
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Re: Dessalator Water Maker Logic Board
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Bill & Judy:
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Sorry that your circuit board quit working. I would be curious about the details, i.e. what LEDs were lit when it quit?, was the green LED on the circuit board on after the failure?, did the high pressure pump trip off, did the diversion valve energize?, did the low pressure pump keep running?, etc. Do you still have the old board? Any chance you would send it to me for analysis. Is the replacement board the same board or a newer version? Any chance the new board actually works as advertised as far as dirverting salt water or is it still the sham hookup that came stock from Dessalator? I have considered designing a board that would interface to a real salinity sensor and retrofitting it to my system. Your thoughts would be appreciated. Gary Silver
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu Ventilation Below
Howard Berger
Hi, John. Thanks for the note.
I'm not concerned about heat during the day. It's night at anchor in the tropics that concerns me. As I noted previously, we're going to cut a hatch over the aft berth and one over the head. I'm also considering adding dorades in the main salon. It's not practical to keep the hatch open on passage, unless you don't mind getting wet. Regards, Howard Berger From: "john martin" <symoondog@hotmail.com>_________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu Ventilation Below
john martin <symoondog@...>
Hi all, maybe a helful hint. We have canvas covers for all our deck hatches that we leave on all the time except when sailing. Also we keep the heavy Amel lined curtains closed doing the day and my wife even made lined curtains for the small port holes in the galley,head, etc. With just the main hatch open doing the day we get plenty of light but no sun below. You can't see out the port holes anyhow,unless you're 7 feet tall. Remember the more holes you cut in your boat the more it will flex in the ocean. My old boat had lots of opening ports and hatches, I was always cool, ,,,,, and wet!!! This boat has never leaked a drop.
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Dessalator Water Maker Logic Board
Has anyone experienced a failure of the circuit board in the
Dessalator water maker? Our 160 liter water maker cut off while making water and would not restart. We checked everything, breakers, fuses on the logic board, etc. We had it serviced by Electec in St. Martin. It required the replacement of the logic board...about $450. Bill & Judy Rouse s/v Security SM2 #387
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To all users requesting sign in
Jose_Luis Isasi <jose.luis.isasi@...>
Hello,
This is a message from current moderator of the group. I have seen some people trying to join but they do not leave an email address I can respond to. Let me remind that membership is restricted--to join you'll need to include an email address that the Amel Yacht Owners Group moderator can respond to. Please follow directions to 'sign in', or send an email to: amelyachtowners-owner@yahoogroups.com Regards 'Joseba' (Jose Luis Isasi)
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Aft cabin hatch and servicing bilge pump
John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
Hello Howard,
I had a hatch fitted in the aft cabin top and it works extremely well especially whilst at anchor. See message nos 1781 and 1804 for a description and Bali Hai SM 317 photo album for more details. I had problems with my bilge pump but it was a self inflicted injury because I was using the pump on manual switching when it had already emptied the sump to its preset level. This caused the electric pump to suck air thus emptying the pump above its top flap valve. The valve then failed to do its duty as it relies on the head of water above it to make it seal. The flap was only made of neoprene unlike the ones in Whale Gulper pumps which have flaps with a slice of something heavy like lead moulded in to make them seat properly. Regards to all Anne and John SM 319
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Re: Maramu Ventilation Below
Howard Berger
Hello, and thanks to everyone who replied to my question re:
ventilation and airflow on the Maramu. Your comments were very helpful. I've decided to add a hatch over the aft berth and possibly a smaller one over the aft head as well. I'll try to post messages and pictures as the work progresses. Best regards, Howard Berger --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote: doesn't provide airflow and the port ventilator doesn't work because it isvarious breeze boosters for the aft cabin with marginal results. We havecompare to others. We have the fresh air ventilation system for use whenat sea or if it is raining. It is a boon and a desirable option.closed up. ** I think I orderd Hella fans as options when I bought the boat.I have since added two more.mine under the galley sink, below the shelf, and tied it into the fresh airventilation system as well as running vents to the area of the navstation/guarter berth and a vent that comes out into the galley from just to theport of the dishwasher.<svresolute@> wrote:plans, aI'm struck by the lack of opening ports throughout the boat. As be inconsiderable amount of the time we plan to be out cruising will a "hot"the Tropics (both Caribbean and Pacific), the potential for cruised theboat below is a concern to me. The Caliber 40 in which we ports (5Caribbean for more than a year has has a total of 10 opening andper side), plus larger hatches than are present on the Maramu, olderduring the day it still got pretty hot below. Maramu.
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Amel54 and Joel Potter on YouTube
Roger Frederiks <rofred@...>
I thought this might be of interest to you all. A seven minute,
American made video featuring the 54, in which Joel Potter is interviewed. The clip can be found on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsFZURpfdYQ Needless to say, only watch when you have access to broadband, and not through your Pactor or Iridium link! Happy sailing Roger
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Re: Quantity of Polytrol (Penetrol) required to treat decks
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Thanks Roy, I appreciate your thoughts.
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Re: Protecting Mahogany surfaces
amelfango
Hi John,
I know some people use the material used for spray hood windows, which I assume is vinyl. I hope that this lead helps. You need to find someone that has actually used it as I have not but intend to do so. Let me know if you find a definitive answer and I'll do likewise. Best regards, Rob Between AMELS
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Re: Quantity of Polytrol (Penetrol) required to treat decks
rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
Hi Gary,
The deck painting is holding up fine. It's been just over one year, and the boat was in Maine last summer. We're planning on taking her south this coming winter, so we'll see. I applied another coat of Polytrol last fall, and had to buy some Penetrol to finish, as my Polytrol ran out. I found that Penetrol is not quite as easy to apply as Polytrol (you need to wipe it off sooner), but the results were similar. I used about half a quart can of Polytrol/Penetrol for all the brown decks. Apply with a brush, wipe off with a cloth after about 10 minutes. I did not try it on the white decks, or other fiberglass areas. I think it would work fine on the white non-skid. I would not try it on any glossy areas. Re the deck painting, we were very happy with the striping device. It went very quickly, and was easy to use. You'll also need a small brush for corners and around cleats, etc. And keep a clean cloth with solvent handy. We used one-part polyurethane paint, very easy and durable. Black looks good, but will make your decks hotter than they are now (with the faded gel coat stripes). I'm not sure any dark color will be any different. Many years ago, Amel made some Mangos and Maramus with white stripes to reduce deck heat, but they looked a bit strange. The white stripes definitely cooled the decks, though. Good luck, Roy on Excalibur (SM #195) --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:
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Re: Maramu Ventilation Below
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
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We have had our SM2000 in the Caribbean for 4 years. It is a great boat and I am very happy with it. My observations on ventilation are as follows: Forward Cabin: Excellent air flow from hatch under virtually all conditions.* Excellent air conditioning. I have two Hella Fans to augment airflow as needed and/or if the boat is closed up under sail or due to insects or rain. Forward Head: Excellent air flow from hatch under virtually all conditions. Excellent air conditioning. Saloon: Adequate, but not excellent air flow from hatch. Better with Breeze Boosters. I also have two Hella fans near the saloon forward bulkhead to help if winds are light. The single 9,000 BTU Climma AC is ok for the eating area only but inadequate for the galley and nav station area. Nav Station: Only a Hella fan mounted here makes it bearable.** Galley: This is a real sweat box. The portlight isn't adequate and the saloon AC doesn't get this far. I just finished installing a 4th AC unit (10,000 Climma)*** for dedicated output to the galley and nav station area in order to keep the 1st mate (wife) happy. The Breeze Booster Port Ventilator helps. I have several of the Breeze Boosters and Port Ventilators and they are the only ones that I have found to work on the Amel (self erecting) see: www.breezebooster.com/index.html Quarter Berth: Inadequate ventilation. The single portlight doesn't provide airflow and the port ventilator doesn't work because it is located in the cockpit behind the dodger. I have directed an AC vent from the new install to shoot AC air into the quarter berth. I am contemplating installing a second portlight here to get some airflow. There is a Hella fan here that makes it bearable. Aft Cabin & Aft Head: Very marginal to inadequate airflow. Note that the new Amel 54 has two aft hatches and a cabin top hatch. The head portlight and small forward portlight are not adequate. The AC is super and quickly cools the aft cabin. I have tried various breeze boosters for the aft cabin with marginal results. We have three Hella fans in the cabin and I installed an additional Hella fan in the aft head that makes showering etc ok. Typically at night in the Caribbean the wind and temp is ok with normal boat ventilation. The worst time is in the afternoons. I manage my battery charging so that I can run the ACs and charge the batteries in the mid afternoon, or I just spend this time in the water. This is the only boat I have ever owned so I can't compare to others. We have the fresh air ventilation system for use when at sea or if it is raining. It is a boon and a desirable option. Notes: * Fresh air ventilation system is barely adequate when boat is closed up. ** I think I orderd Hella fans as options when I bought the boat. I have since added two more. *** Joel says he gets four units on all his boats. I installed mine under the galley sink, below the shelf, and tied it into the fresh air ventilation system as well as running vents to the area of the nav station/guarter berth and a vent that comes out into the galley from just to the port of the dishwasher. These are just my opinions. Hope this helps, Gary Silver SM 2000, Hull # 335 but is--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Berger" <svresolute@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu Ventilation Below
WILLIAM KLEIN <sidecar1@...>
There are saillike devices that can be put over deck hatches to force air into the boat. They actually work pretty good!
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From: Howard Berger To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu Ventilation Below We're considering purchasing a Maramu (1984). Looking at the plans, I'm struck by the lack of opening ports throughout the boat. As a considerable amount of the time we plan to be out cruising will be in the Tropics (both Caribbean and Pacific), the potential for a "hot" boat below is a concern to me. The Caliber 40 in which we cruised the Caribbean for more than a year has has a total of 10 opening ports (5 per side), plus larger hatches than are present on the Maramu, and during the day it still got pretty hot below. I'd appreciate any comments from current or former owners of the older Maramu. Best Regards, Howard Berger
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SM Grounding Fault
Ian Shepherd <ocean53@...>
Those of you with late model Super Maramu 2000's will have a test switch
located left of the companionway steps to check if there is a grounding fault. I have in the past had a fault when a leaking macerator pump seal caused sea and earth ground to become connected. I have again got a fault in the Masse - which means that sea and battery ground are connected, but this time it is not the toilets that are causing the trouble. It could be anywhere! It started as an intermittent fault whilst sailing, then it went away for a while, but now it is a permanent fault. I wonder if anyone else has had a Masse - fault light appear where they traced the problem to? Any clues would be helpful in what looks like a long and painful exercise in fault finding. The fault remains with all circuit breakers tripped, but as the breakers usually only break the positive wire, this is to be expected. Ian Shepherd SM 399 'Crusader'
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Maramu Ventilation Below
Howard Berger
We're considering purchasing a Maramu (1984). Looking at the plans,
I'm struck by the lack of opening ports throughout the boat. As a considerable amount of the time we plan to be out cruising will be in the Tropics (both Caribbean and Pacific), the potential for a "hot" boat below is a concern to me. The Caliber 40 in which we cruised the Caribbean for more than a year has has a total of 10 opening ports (5 per side), plus larger hatches than are present on the Maramu, and during the day it still got pretty hot below. I'd appreciate any comments from current or former owners of the older Maramu. Best Regards, Howard Berger
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FOC replacement
Steve Leeds
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Bill, My original AMEL Genoa, which I believe was 135%, had a foam luff retrofitted by a previous owner. The sail worked well, but was very heavy. I also have a 110% Genoa (also purchased by the previous owner), which I used briefly in the Caribbean. I often found that the boat was underpowered with this sail and I put up the original 135% Genoa in Trinidad, and it left up for the rest of our circumnavigation. I have never used the 110 again. When I replaced our worn out old Genoa (Sails Specialty Ltd in Auckland, New Zealand) I was told that the foam luff was not recommended as the foam compresses over time and becomes less effective. Rather, a piece of tapered line was used instead of foam (a feature I have since seen on many other sails. They also eliminated the multiple layers of filler material used in the clew (used to allow use of a pressed ring) by using a sewn in āDā ring (reinforced with webbing). This feature also reduced the weight of the new sail and allowed for a better shape. I installed this new sail upon arriving back in the Caribbean. It was cut the same size as the original AMEL Genoa and is conventional Dacron of the same weight cloth. We have since used this sail for a day reaching in steady 45 knots from the beam (reefed) and for a rough three day beat up into the Gulf of Mexico from the Yucatan Channel along with all the normally great Caribbean sailing with no problems (or regrets). I find I can point closer to the wind with this new sail (perhaps just a result of having a new sail) and sail much faster in light wind. The reduced weight makes handling this sail on deck much easier and of course, reduces weight aloft. Steve Leeds Yacht MACCABEE AMEL Sharki #121 Circumnavigator's Yacht Service Fort Lauderdale, Fl http://bellsouthpwp2.net/l/e/leedss/
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From: btleonore <leonorebt@earthlink.net> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 9, 2007 4:31:51 PM Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] FOC replacement Hi, I am considering buying a new FOC and have an old letter from Amel stating that the size should be 153.8% Genoa. Does anyone know the dimensions for that. Also would you install foam in the luff or not. I do not think mine (SM72) has foam. Would you recommend Dacron and any particular style. We are just a cruising boat so nothing fancy is wanted. By looking at the Amel diagrams that came with the boat, it appears that the luff is 17.1m, leach 16.15m and foot 9m. Does this comport with what I am looking for? Thanks for your input. Bill on Leonore of Sark. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge pump service
Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
Craig,
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You are absolutely right. We have never had a joker valve on our strum box, which, in our case, is nothing more than wire mesh. I will keep a lookout for a stum box with a joker valve. Thanks, Robin. Belouga, Santorin 004. Craig & Katherine <sangaris@aol.com> wrote: Robin, Your technique of using the manual pump to clear "muck" is a good one that works well for me. Priming used to be an issue, but that "joker" valve in the "strum" box,(rubber thingy with three star points facing up, like the valve in your toilet discharge line) is meant to keep the suction hose filled with water, so no priming issue. Sounds like your "joker" valve is missing or old and crusty - mine was gone and I just happened to spot a new strum box that had the joker included - voila! problem solved. Cheers, Craig Briggs - Santorin #68
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<robincooter@...> wrote: ... A problem that I have experienced after having manually pumped the bilge - the manual hose goes lower than the electric hose so I can clear some of the muck that accumulates, however careful you are, at the bottom of the bilge - the electric pump can't self prime itself. ...> Regards, --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes.
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