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mango sailors / owners

salsman2 <salsman@...>
 

Good Morning:

I am considering purchasing a Mango. I would like to get some idea
how fast or slow they are under sail.
Can you tell me how many miles per day you average while making ocean
passages? Average wind strength on these passages?
Miles per day while beating?
WMiles per day while reaching?
Miles per day while running?

Thank you for your help.
Regards

Rick Salsman
s/v Aisling I


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] help with steering

Alejandro Paquin
 

Eric:
Unless the existing damage makes it impossible to use the second
cable, I would not advise putting the full strain of the rudder on
the autipilot alone: what if the autopilot fails or disengages? You
would have no way of steering the boat and would force you to depend
only on the emergency tiller.

Alex
s/v Simpatico







--- In amelyachtowners@..., asm283 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
Hi Eric

Thanks for the information. Yes I can disconnect the steering and
go
by autopilot. I will do that if I have to but I would rather relace
or repair the bent rod if possible. I also think that one rod will
steer al least on a temporary basis. Any ideas on replacing this
rod
would be helpfull.

Vito



--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite
<kimberlite@o...>
wrote:
Vito,

Can you disconnect the steering cables and steer just using the
autopilot
mounted to the rudder post?

You can also rig the emergency tiller to get to a safer island.

I am glad to hear you made it.

Fairer winds,

Eric

Kimberlite







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From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@...]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] help with steering



Hello

My Super Maramu was in Grenada for Ivan. Thankfully she does not
seem
to be heavely damaged. However, one of the steering rods that
attaches to the rudder quadrant was bent. Does anyone have any
experience in replacing this item.

In order for me to get the boat out of Grenada I need to
temporarely
repair this item.

can the rod assembly be replaced without replacing the entire
cable.

Has anyone steered the boat with just one rod attached.

Thank you

Vito Ciaravino






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] help with steering

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Eric

Thanks for the information. Yes I can disconnect the steering and go
by autopilot. I will do that if I have to but I would rather relace
or repair the bent rod if possible. I also think that one rod will
steer al least on a temporary basis. Any ideas on replacing this rod
would be helpfull.

Vito



--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite <kimberlite@o...>
wrote:
Vito,

Can you disconnect the steering cables and steer just using the
autopilot
mounted to the rudder post?

You can also rig the emergency tiller to get to a safer island.

I am glad to hear you made it.

Fairer winds,

Eric

Kimberlite







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From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@...]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] help with steering



Hello

My Super Maramu was in Grenada for Ivan. Thankfully she does not
seem
to be heavely damaged. However, one of the steering rods that
attaches to the rudder quadrant was bent. Does anyone have any
experience in replacing this item.

In order for me to get the boat out of Grenada I need to
temporarely
repair this item.

can the rod assembly be replaced without replacing the entire cable.

Has anyone steered the boat with just one rod attached.

Thank you

Vito Ciaravino






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Re: help with steering

Alejandro Paquin
 

My understanding is that, if your system is like the Maramu's, one
cable should be enough to steer the boat at least on a temporary
basis. It seems to me two cables is a redundant feature whichis part
of Amel's solid steering system.

Alex Paquin
s/v Simpatico



--- In amelyachtowners@..., asm283 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
Hello

My Super Maramu was in Grenada for Ivan. Thankfully she does not
seem
to be heavely damaged. However, one of the steering rods that
attaches to the rudder quadrant was bent. Does anyone have any
experience in replacing this item.

In order for me to get the boat out of Grenada I need to
temporarely
repair this item.

can the rod assembly be replaced without replacing the entire cable.

Has anyone steered the boat with just one rod attached.

Thank you

Vito Ciaravino


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] help with steering

eric freedman
 

Vito,

Can you disconnect the steering cables and steer just using the autopilot
mounted to the rudder post?

You can also rig the emergency tiller to get to a safer island.

I am glad to hear you made it.

Fairer winds,

Eric

Kimberlite







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From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@...]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] help with steering



Hello

My Super Maramu was in Grenada for Ivan. Thankfully she does not seem
to be heavely damaged. However, one of the steering rods that
attaches to the rudder quadrant was bent. Does anyone have any
experience in replacing this item.

In order for me to get the boat out of Grenada I need to temporarely
repair this item.

can the rod assembly be replaced without replacing the entire cable.

Has anyone steered the boat with just one rod attached.

Thank you

Vito Ciaravino






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help with steering

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello

My Super Maramu was in Grenada for Ivan. Thankfully she does not seem
to be heavely damaged. However, one of the steering rods that
attaches to the rudder quadrant was bent. Does anyone have any
experience in replacing this item.

In order for me to get the boat out of Grenada I need to temporarely
repair this item.

can the rod assembly be replaced without replacing the entire cable.

Has anyone steered the boat with just one rod attached.

Thank you

Vito Ciaravino


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Euros autopilot

Szabó Géza
 

Dear Eduardo,

thank you for your reply. Yes, I would love to see those pictures!
How do you connect the drive unit to the quadrant? and the steering position
sensor?

I think I will go with the same solution.:-)

Cheers

Geza

-----Original Message-----
From: Eduardo Conde [mailto:corposervices@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:30 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Euros autopilot


Dear friend:
I am in the same situation and at this time I am installing an autohelm
st 5000 auto pilotwith with linear drive connected directly to the cane of
the helm, from the floor of the stern cabin, if you want it I can send you
the next week the pictures of the installation.

Cordial greetings
Eduardo Conde
Samadhi Caracas Venezuela

Rotorman <rotorman@...> wrote:
Dear Euros owners,

I'm looking for an autopilot solution for my Euros. External units are not
my opinion. Any solutions, you could make? Or any replacement unit for the
original (under kitchen cover) autopilot?

Thanks

Geza Szabo
http://rotorman.hu


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Euros autopilot

Eduardo Conde <corposervices@...>
 

Dear friend:
I am in the same situation and at this time I am installing an autohelm st 5000 auto pilotwith with linear drive connected directly to the cane of the helm, from the floor of the stern cabin, if you want it I can send you the next week the pictures of the installation.

Cordial greetings
Eduardo Conde
Samadhi Caracas Venezuela

Rotorman <rotorman@...> wrote:
Dear Euros owners,

I'm looking for an autopilot solution for my Euros. External units are not
my opinion. Any solutions, you could make? Or any replacement unit for the
original (under kitchen cover) autopilot?

Thanks

Geza Szabo
http://rotorman.hu


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[Amel Yacht Owners] !2 Volt Electric Motor for 1984 Mango

Anne and John Hollamby <hollamby@...>
 

Message text written by INTERNET:amelyachtowners@...
<
Are you sure that the original motor cannot be repaired either by a
machinist or a rewinding specialist? We get too carried away in this throw
away society.
I severely damaged the cones and mainshaft on my Lofrans anchor winch
whilst in Croatia because I had failed to grease the cones regularly as
advised in the instructions. The British Agents did not have many of the
parts in stock but could get them rushed through in 5-6 weeks before
sending them on to me and the costs were horrendous. The Manager of the
Dubrovnic Bestsail charter company put me in touch with a local mechanic
who succeeded in dismantling it ( just about all the machine screws etc.
were seized solid after 3 1/2 years and had to be heat treated to free them
). This took about seven hours and he returned at 5pm the next day having
made new keyways in one cone and the mainshaft, cleaned up the distorted
mainshaft and made a new cone. He rebuilt the winch which is now good as
new and the cost was approx 300 euros.

Good luck, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM 319


Euros autopilot

Szabó Géza
 

Dear Euros owners,

I'm looking for an autopilot solution for my Euros. External units are not
my opinion. Any solutions, you could make? Or any replacement unit for the
original (under kitchen cover) autopilot?

Thanks

Geza Szabo
http://rotorman.hu


!2 Volt Electric Motor for 1984 Mango

dmrotek <Svhuntress@...>
 

Hi Everyone,
We have a 1984 Mango, Number 42, with 12 volt electric furling on the
main mast and boom. Our boom motor is broken and can not be fixed.

Does anyone have a replacement motor, or any ideas as to how to get a
replacement motor? We would appreciate any suggestions.

Amel is working on this, but having trouble finding a motor that will
fit because of the age of our Mango. Thanks for your help.

David Mrotek


Tempest

tom mcguffy <tmcguffy@...>
 

Tempest, our 1985 Amel Mango, is for sale. She is currently in southern Spain, but we plan to cross to the Caribbean this winter. We think her excellent condition and many updates including hull paint, complete deck refurbishment (no more faux teak), new sails, new rigging, Ultra Suede upholstery, Glacier Bay refrigeration, Broadwater stove, Balmar generator, 20 gph water maker and many other amenities place her among the top Mangos. Will deliver almost anywhere. For details send an email to this address. Ph # in Spain +34 677119763. Tom McGuffy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water maker lay-up

David Crisp
 

Many thanks John,I'll give it a go.
David

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "john martin"
<symoondog@h...> wrote:
David,
In addition to the information I gave you about
winterizing your
watermaker, I forgot to mention that if you lay your Amel up in
extreame
cold, you may also want to winterize all of your salt water
intakes. This is
easily done by getting a couple of gallons of anti-freeze ( the
enviomental
type). Turn off your salt water intake, and take off the top of
the filter.
I call this the sea chest. Start your engine, and when all the
water is
gone, pour in the anti-freeze. When you see the anti-freeze coming
out of
the exaust, shut off the engine. Do the same thing for the
generator. With
the sea chest full of anti-freeze turn on each toilet until the
anti-freeze
goes in the toilet and out the discharge. If your anchor wash is
connected
to the same sea chest, run that also. Make sure the anti-freeze is
not only
enviomental friendly but non corrosive for aluminum, and rubber,
i.e. your
impeller and toilet parts. If you run your charger all the time,
it
generates enough heat to keep the engine room a little warm, but I
allways
turn off my charger and main battery bank when I leave the boat
for any
time. The bildge pump is wired direct to the batteries, so cutting
off the
main switch doesn't effect it, and if you do a proper job storing
your Amel
you won't need a bildge pump anyhow. If you leave the switch on,
then the
computers,clocks, etc. will eventully run the batteries down. This
also can
tell you if your batteries are going bad. I can leave my boat for
months
with no charger on and when I get back the batteries are still at
100% . If
I come back and they're at 90% they're gone. Regards John
'Moondog" SM 248
From: "john martin" <symoondog@h...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: "Monndog" sm248
From: "davidcrisp" <david@f...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water maker lay-up
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:17:09 -0000

Now we are back in the UK where fresh water is free and readily
available I want to put our water maker to bed - for the winter
and
long term.
The instructions I have are very unclear. Can someone advise
me on
what the best method is for 'laying-up' the water maker?
Presumably
it will need sterilzing and protection against freezing? Our
is the
24V 50l/hr model.
Thanks,
David
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RE : [Amel Yacht Owners] Birth of a French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum

Patrick Naegels <naegels@...>
 

Hi Byron,

sorry to ear that you would like to sale your nice SM2000. You can
advertise for free this sale, in French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum. I
can even help you to translate the hereunder advertise in French, but
you have to post it yourself in the Forum because questions must be
directed to your email, not mine. So the first action is to register you
as member (for free too).

Patrick

-----Message d'origine-----
De : sailslady@... [mailto:sailslady@...]
Envoyé : mardi 14 septembre 2004 19:33
À : amelyachtowners@...
Objet : Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Birth of a French speaking Amel
Sailboats Forum


Hi Patrick:

Thank you for the info on the new French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum.
I
wish you well. I wish I spoke French. It would make my relationship
with my
Amel and the Amel Factory staff easier for them and me. The Amel staff
would
agree!

We love our Amel and will not have anyother sailboat to cruise the
worlds
oceans as a couple. However after sailing our Amel for 33 months and
20,000
miles around the islands of the Med, Caribbean and Atlantic twice my
wife and I
have decided to spend more time alifornia with our grandchildren and
complete a
masters degree program through 2006. Then we will go back to sailing.
We have
put our Amel up for sale.

I would like to advertize my 2002 Amel Super Maramu hull #340 in your
new
Amel forum. I have been advertizing for just 3 months in Cruising
World, Sail
and Blue Water Cruising. Since you have invited ads into your Forum I
would like
you to put this ad in either French or English. Is there a cost to do
this?

My current Ad is as follows: 2002 model- 52' (16 meter) Amel Super
Maramu
2000. Pristine and loaded with 50,000 Amel factory extras. New cost to
day
would be over 600,000 Euros. We are asking 450,000 Euros. VAT not
paid.
Chesapeake location. American owner. Contact: sailslady@...

The last out of water marine survey was done at Amel Guadeloupe in
1/204.
Yanmar 75 HP replaced in Hyrers 7/03 and has 655 hours. Genset has 1010
hours.
We encourage any interested party to see 2 or 3 new and used Amels THEN
see
Sailslady before buying any Amel. Our Amel is in better condition than
many new
Amels and most preused ones. All the wrinkles and problems have been
worked
out. If you know boats you know what I mean.

I would be able to show Sailslady in Baltimore between September 17 and
22
and again October 8 -13.

Again thank you for opening your Amel French language Forum to those of
us
that can not speak French.

Byron Henderson
sailslady@...







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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Birth of a French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum

sailslady@...
 

Hi Patrick:

Thank you for the info on the new French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum. I
wish you well. I wish I spoke French. It would make my relationship with my
Amel and the Amel Factory staff easier for them and me. The Amel staff would
agree!

We love our Amel and will not have anyother sailboat to cruise the worlds
oceans as a couple. However after sailing our Amel for 33 months and 20,000
miles around the islands of the Med, Caribbean and Atlantic twice my wife and I
have decided to spend more time alifornia with our grandchildren and complete a
masters degree program through 2006. Then we will go back to sailing. We have
put our Amel up for sale.

I would like to advertize my 2002 Amel Super Maramu hull #340 in your new
Amel forum. I have been advertizing for just 3 months in Cruising World, Sail
and Blue Water Cruising. Since you have invited ads into your Forum I would like
you to put this ad in either French or English. Is there a cost to do this?

My current Ad is as follows: 2002 model- 52' (16 meter) Amel Super Maramu
2000. Pristine and loaded with 50,000 Amel factory extras. New cost to day
would be over 600,000 Euros. We are asking 450,000 Euros. VAT not paid.
Chesapeake location. American owner. Contact: sailslady@...

The last out of water marine survey was done at Amel Guadeloupe in 1/204.
Yanmar 75 HP replaced in Hyrers 7/03 and has 655 hours. Genset has 1010 hours.
We encourage any interested party to see 2 or 3 new and used Amels THEN see
Sailslady before buying any Amel. Our Amel is in better condition than many new
Amels and most preused ones. All the wrinkles and problems have been worked
out. If you know boats you know what I mean.

I would be able to show Sailslady in Baltimore between September 17 and 22
and again October 8 -13.

Again thank you for opening your Amel French language Forum to those of us
that can not speak French.

Byron Henderson
sailslady@...


Re: Hurth Transmission ID

salsman2 <r.salsman@...>
 

I am not sure of your transmission type but the guys at Foley engines
will be able to help you.

http://www.foleyengines.com/home.html
Foley Marine & Industrial Engines, Inc.
200 Summer Street
Worcester, MA 01604
www.FoleyEngines.com Phone:

Fax:
Email:
1-800-23-FOLEY (U.S.)
+1 508 753 2979
+1 508 799 2276
info@...


Ask Dr Diesel.

Good luck
Rick


--- In amelyachtowners@..., silkair@a... wrote:
I am trying to identify the Hurth Transmission in our 1983 Mango
and need
some help. The data tag is damaged. The only manual we have is in
French and
is for a HBW5,10, or 20 The manual drawings do not seem to match up
with what
we have mated to our Perkins 4-236. Our transmission has the
shifting arm on
the top, not the side as shown in drawings. Our buyers survey
refers to it as
a Hurth 4 transmission. The transmissiion shifts fine but makes a
fair"clunk" while doing so. Is this normal for these small and
simple transmissions?
Any help would be appreciated.
SV Eshamy Michael P. McCarthy



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water maker lay-up

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

David,
In addition to the information I gave you about winterizing your watermaker, I forgot to mention that if you lay your Amel up in extreame cold, you may also want to winterize all of your salt water intakes. This is easily done by getting a couple of gallons of anti-freeze ( the enviomental type). Turn off your salt water intake, and take off the top of the filter. I call this the sea chest. Start your engine, and when all the water is gone, pour in the anti-freeze. When you see the anti-freeze coming out of the exaust, shut off the engine. Do the same thing for the generator. With the sea chest full of anti-freeze turn on each toilet until the anti-freeze goes in the toilet and out the discharge. If your anchor wash is connected to the same sea chest, run that also. Make sure the anti-freeze is not only enviomental friendly but non corrosive for aluminum, and rubber, i.e. your impeller and toilet parts. If you run your charger all the time, it generates enough heat to keep the engine room a little warm, but I allways turn off my charger and main battery bank when I leave the boat for any time. The bildge pump is wired direct to the batteries, so cutting off the main switch doesn't effect it, and if you do a proper job storing your Amel you won't need a bildge pump anyhow. If you leave the switch on, then the computers,clocks, etc. will eventully run the batteries down. This also can tell you if your batteries are going bad. I can leave my boat for months with no charger on and when I get back the batteries are still at 100% . If I come back and they're at 90% they're gone. Regards John
'Moondog" SM 248
From: "john martin" <symoondog@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: "Monndog" sm248
From: "davidcrisp" <david@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water maker lay-up
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:17:09 -0000

Now we are back in the UK where fresh water is free and readily
available I want to put our water maker to bed - for the winter and
long term.
The instructions I have are very unclear. Can someone advise me on
what the best method is for 'laying-up' the water maker? Presumably
it will need sterilzing and protection against freezing? Our is the
24V 50l/hr model.
Thanks,
David
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Birth of a French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum

Naegels Patrick <naegels@...>
 

Hello Amel owners,

I have the pleasure to introduce the brand new French speaking Amel
Sailboats Forum on http://www.forum-voiliers-amel.net

In the same spirit as this forum, forum-voiliers-amel's aim is to
share owners experiences, good tips, and offer free space to present
used Amel sailboats for sale (for owner only).

Every body is welcome, but of course in French …

Do not hesitate to contact me, we certainly have synergy to find.

All the best

Patrick
patrick@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water maker lay-up

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

David,
Its a very simple process to pickle your water maker. The object is to circulate a solution through your system to eliminate the possibility of bacteria while you are not using the unit. To do this you mix a 1/4 cup ( 2 ozs.) of sodium bisulphate in a bucket of pure water (2 1/2 gallons). If you need to protect from freezing, add 2 litres of glycerine. Then you flush your system with fresh water the usual way for about 5 minutes. Cut off the main salt water intake. Disconect the intake hose of the water maker at the filter on the water maker maker side. Put this hose in the bucket. Take off the outlet hose (discharge) and put it into the bucket. Turn on the water maker at the panel. ( switch only) The unit will now suck the solution out of the bucket through the system and back into the bucket. Do this for 10 minutes reconnect the hoses and you are done. To turn the unit back on in the future, simply flush with fresh water for about 10 minutes and you are ready to go. Now to explain the hard part. You will notice that the intake hose is not long enough to reach into the bucket. add a 3 or 4 ft. piece of hose, put them together with a hose barb. You'll have trouble finding the outlet hose. Its on the port side up high and discharges overboard probally with your bildge pump hose.It comes off of the control unit in the galley, so it will be coming down from above. This hose also won't reach the bucket. I just hang the bucket up with a piece of rope, or you can add a piece of hose. Hope this helps you out. The entire process should take about 1 hour once you get everything sorted out. John Martin
"Monndog" sm248
From: "davidcrisp" <david@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water maker lay-up
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:17:09 -0000

Now we are back in the UK where fresh water is free and readily
available I want to put our water maker to bed - for the winter and
long term.
The instructions I have are very unclear. Can someone advise me on
what the best method is for 'laying-up' the water maker? Presumably
it will need sterilzing and protection against freezing? Our is the
24V 50l/hr model.
Thanks,
David
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Hurth Transmission ID

silkair@...
 

I am trying to identify the Hurth Transmission in our 1983 Mango and need
some help. The data tag is damaged. The only manual we have is in French and
is for a HBW5,10, or 20 The manual drawings do not seem to match up with what
we have mated to our Perkins 4-236. Our transmission has the shifting arm on
the top, not the side as shown in drawings. Our buyers survey refers to it as
a Hurth 4 transmission. The transmissiion shifts fine but makes a
fair"clunk" while doing so. Is this normal for these small and simple transmissions?
Any help would be appreciated.
SV Eshamy Michael P. McCarthy