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mango sailors / owners
salsman2 <salsman@...>
Good Morning:
I am considering purchasing a Mango. I would like to get some idea how fast or slow they are under sail. Can you tell me how many miles per day you average while making ocean passages? Average wind strength on these passages? Miles per day while beating? WMiles per day while reaching? Miles per day while running? Thank you for your help. Regards Rick Salsman s/v Aisling I
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] help with steering
Eric:
Unless the existing damage makes it impossible to use the second cable, I would not advise putting the full strain of the rudder on the autipilot alone: what if the autopilot fails or disengages? You would have no way of steering the boat and would force you to depend only on the emergency tiller. Alex s/v Simpatico --- In amelyachtowners@..., asm283 <no_reply@y...> wrote: Hi Ericgo by autopilot. I will do that if I have to but I would rather relacerod would be helpfull.<kimberlite@o...> wrote:cable.Vito,autopilot <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1298qf5s4/M=295196.4901138.6071305.300117 6/D=groups/S=1705065792:HM/EXP=1096127946/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http: /companion.yahoo.com> click hereM=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S=
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] help with steering
asm283 <no_reply@...>
Hi Eric
Thanks for the information. Yes I can disconnect the steering and go by autopilot. I will do that if I have to but I would rather relace or repair the bent rod if possible. I also think that one rod will steer al least on a temporary basis. Any ideas on replacing this rod would be helpfull. Vito --- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite <kimberlite@o...> wrote: Vito,autopilot mounted to the rudder post?seem to be heavely damaged. However, one of the steering rods thattemporarely repair this item.<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1298qf5s4/M=295196.4901138.6071305.300117 6/D=gr oups/S=1705065792:HM/EXP=1096127946/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http: /compa nion.yahoo.com> click hereM=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2128215/rand=443635069>subject=Unsubscribe>
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Re: help with steering
My understanding is that, if your system is like the Maramu's, one
cable should be enough to steer the boat at least on a temporary basis. It seems to me two cables is a redundant feature whichis part of Amel's solid steering system. Alex Paquin s/v Simpatico --- In amelyachtowners@..., asm283 <no_reply@y...> wrote: Helloseem to be heavely damaged. However, one of the steering rods thattemporarely repair this item.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] help with steering
eric freedman
Vito,
Can you disconnect the steering cables and steer just using the autopilot mounted to the rudder post? You can also rig the emergency tiller to get to a safer island. I am glad to hear you made it. Fairer winds, Eric Kimberlite _____ From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@...] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:59 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] help with steering Hello My Super Maramu was in Grenada for Ivan. Thankfully she does not seem to be heavely damaged. However, one of the steering rods that attaches to the rudder quadrant was bent. Does anyone have any experience in replacing this item. In order for me to get the boat out of Grenada I need to temporarely repair this item. can the rod assembly be replaced without replacing the entire cable. Has anyone steered the boat with just one rod attached. Thank you Vito Ciaravino Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1298qf5s4/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705065792:HM/EXP=1096127946/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/compa nion.yahoo.com> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2128215/rand=443635069> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@... <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service.
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help with steering
asm283 <no_reply@...>
Hello
My Super Maramu was in Grenada for Ivan. Thankfully she does not seem to be heavely damaged. However, one of the steering rods that attaches to the rudder quadrant was bent. Does anyone have any experience in replacing this item. In order for me to get the boat out of Grenada I need to temporarely repair this item. can the rod assembly be replaced without replacing the entire cable. Has anyone steered the boat with just one rod attached. Thank you Vito Ciaravino
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Euros autopilot
Szabó Géza
Dear Eduardo,
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thank you for your reply. Yes, I would love to see those pictures! How do you connect the drive unit to the quadrant? and the steering position sensor? I think I will go with the same solution.:-) Cheers Geza
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From: Eduardo Conde [mailto:corposervices@...] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:30 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Euros autopilot Dear friend: I am in the same situation and at this time I am installing an autohelm st 5000 auto pilotwith with linear drive connected directly to the cane of the helm, from the floor of the stern cabin, if you want it I can send you the next week the pictures of the installation. Cordial greetings Eduardo Conde Samadhi Caracas Venezuela Rotorman <rotorman@...> wrote: Dear Euros owners, I'm looking for an autopilot solution for my Euros. External units are not my opinion. Any solutions, you could make? Or any replacement unit for the original (under kitchen cover) autopilot? Thanks Geza Szabo http://rotorman.hu Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Euros autopilot
Eduardo Conde <corposervices@...>
Dear friend:
I am in the same situation and at this time I am installing an autohelm st 5000 auto pilotwith with linear drive connected directly to the cane of the helm, from the floor of the stern cabin, if you want it I can send you the next week the pictures of the installation. Cordial greetings Eduardo Conde Samadhi Caracas Venezuela Rotorman <rotorman@...> wrote: Dear Euros owners, I'm looking for an autopilot solution for my Euros. External units are not my opinion. Any solutions, you could make? Or any replacement unit for the original (under kitchen cover) autopilot? Thanks Geza Szabo http://rotorman.hu Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------
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[Amel Yacht Owners] !2 Volt Electric Motor for 1984 Mango
Anne and John Hollamby <hollamby@...>
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<Are you sure that the original motor cannot be repaired either by a machinist or a rewinding specialist? We get too carried away in this throw away society. I severely damaged the cones and mainshaft on my Lofrans anchor winch whilst in Croatia because I had failed to grease the cones regularly as advised in the instructions. The British Agents did not have many of the parts in stock but could get them rushed through in 5-6 weeks before sending them on to me and the costs were horrendous. The Manager of the Dubrovnic Bestsail charter company put me in touch with a local mechanic who succeeded in dismantling it ( just about all the machine screws etc. were seized solid after 3 1/2 years and had to be heat treated to free them ). This took about seven hours and he returned at 5pm the next day having made new keyways in one cone and the mainshaft, cleaned up the distorted mainshaft and made a new cone. He rebuilt the winch which is now good as new and the cost was approx 300 euros. Good luck, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM 319
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Euros autopilot
Szabó Géza
Dear Euros owners,
I'm looking for an autopilot solution for my Euros. External units are not my opinion. Any solutions, you could make? Or any replacement unit for the original (under kitchen cover) autopilot? Thanks Geza Szabo http://rotorman.hu
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!2 Volt Electric Motor for 1984 Mango
dmrotek <Svhuntress@...>
Hi Everyone,
We have a 1984 Mango, Number 42, with 12 volt electric furling on the main mast and boom. Our boom motor is broken and can not be fixed. Does anyone have a replacement motor, or any ideas as to how to get a replacement motor? We would appreciate any suggestions. Amel is working on this, but having trouble finding a motor that will fit because of the age of our Mango. Thanks for your help. David Mrotek
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Tempest
tom mcguffy <tmcguffy@...>
Tempest, our 1985 Amel Mango, is for sale. She is currently in southern Spain, but we plan to cross to the Caribbean this winter. We think her excellent condition and many updates including hull paint, complete deck refurbishment (no more faux teak), new sails, new rigging, Ultra Suede upholstery, Glacier Bay refrigeration, Broadwater stove, Balmar generator, 20 gph water maker and many other amenities place her among the top Mangos. Will deliver almost anywhere. For details send an email to this address. Ph # in Spain +34 677119763. Tom McGuffy
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water maker lay-up
David Crisp
Many thanks John,I'll give it a go.
David --- In amelyachtowners@..., "john martin" <symoondog@h...> wrote: David,winterizing your watermaker, I forgot to mention that if you lay your Amel up inextreame cold, you may also want to winterize all of your salt waterintakes. This is easily done by getting a couple of gallons of anti-freeze ( theenviomental type). Turn off your salt water intake, and take off the top ofthe filter. I call this the sea chest. Start your engine, and when all thewater is gone, pour in the anti-freeze. When you see the anti-freeze comingout of the exaust, shut off the engine. Do the same thing for thegenerator. With the sea chest full of anti-freeze turn on each toilet until theanti-freeze goes in the toilet and out the discharge. If your anchor wash isconnected to the same sea chest, run that also. Make sure the anti-freeze isnot only enviomental friendly but non corrosive for aluminum, and rubber,i.e. your impeller and toilet parts. If you run your charger all the time,it generates enough heat to keep the engine room a little warm, but Iallways turn off my charger and main battery bank when I leave the boatfor any time. The bildge pump is wired direct to the batteries, so cuttingoff the main switch doesn't effect it, and if you do a proper job storingyour Amel you won't need a bildge pump anyhow. If you leave the switch on,then the computers,clocks, etc. will eventully run the batteries down. Thisalso can tell you if your batteries are going bad. I can leave my boat formonths with no charger on and when I get back the batteries are still at100% . If I come back and they're at 90% they're gone. Regards Johnand me onlong term. Presumablywhat the best method is for 'laying-up' the water maker? is theit will need sterilzing and protection against freezing? Our it's FREE!24V 50l/hr model._________________________________________________________________ tools andhttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/_________________________________________________________________ more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx
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RE : [Amel Yacht Owners] Birth of a French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum
Patrick Naegels <naegels@...>
Hi Byron,
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sorry to ear that you would like to sale your nice SM2000. You can advertise for free this sale, in French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum. I can even help you to translate the hereunder advertise in French, but you have to post it yourself in the Forum because questions must be directed to your email, not mine. So the first action is to register you as member (for free too). Patrick
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De : sailslady@... [mailto:sailslady@...] Envoyé : mardi 14 septembre 2004 19:33 À : amelyachtowners@... Objet : Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Birth of a French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum Hi Patrick: Thank you for the info on the new French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum. I wish you well. I wish I spoke French. It would make my relationship with my Amel and the Amel Factory staff easier for them and me. The Amel staff would agree! We love our Amel and will not have anyother sailboat to cruise the worlds oceans as a couple. However after sailing our Amel for 33 months and 20,000 miles around the islands of the Med, Caribbean and Atlantic twice my wife and I have decided to spend more time alifornia with our grandchildren and complete a masters degree program through 2006. Then we will go back to sailing. We have put our Amel up for sale. I would like to advertize my 2002 Amel Super Maramu hull #340 in your new Amel forum. I have been advertizing for just 3 months in Cruising World, Sail and Blue Water Cruising. Since you have invited ads into your Forum I would like you to put this ad in either French or English. Is there a cost to do this? My current Ad is as follows: 2002 model- 52' (16 meter) Amel Super Maramu 2000. Pristine and loaded with 50,000 Amel factory extras. New cost to day would be over 600,000 Euros. We are asking 450,000 Euros. VAT not paid. Chesapeake location. American owner. Contact: sailslady@... The last out of water marine survey was done at Amel Guadeloupe in 1/204. Yanmar 75 HP replaced in Hyrers 7/03 and has 655 hours. Genset has 1010 hours. We encourage any interested party to see 2 or 3 new and used Amels THEN see Sailslady before buying any Amel. Our Amel is in better condition than many new Amels and most preused ones. All the wrinkles and problems have been worked out. If you know boats you know what I mean. I would be able to show Sailslady in Baltimore between September 17 and 22 and again October 8 -13. Again thank you for opening your Amel French language Forum to those of us that can not speak French. Byron Henderson sailslady@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1291mvhqp/M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/ D=groups/S=1705065792:HM/EXP=1095269816/A=2352667/R=0/SIG=11t4iivpf/*htt p://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60185359&partid=5285298> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.5285298.6392945.3001176/D=group s/S=:HM/A=2352667/rand=317247479> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@... <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Birth of a French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum
sailslady@...
Hi Patrick:
Thank you for the info on the new French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum. I wish you well. I wish I spoke French. It would make my relationship with my Amel and the Amel Factory staff easier for them and me. The Amel staff would agree! We love our Amel and will not have anyother sailboat to cruise the worlds oceans as a couple. However after sailing our Amel for 33 months and 20,000 miles around the islands of the Med, Caribbean and Atlantic twice my wife and I have decided to spend more time alifornia with our grandchildren and complete a masters degree program through 2006. Then we will go back to sailing. We have put our Amel up for sale. I would like to advertize my 2002 Amel Super Maramu hull #340 in your new Amel forum. I have been advertizing for just 3 months in Cruising World, Sail and Blue Water Cruising. Since you have invited ads into your Forum I would like you to put this ad in either French or English. Is there a cost to do this? My current Ad is as follows: 2002 model- 52' (16 meter) Amel Super Maramu 2000. Pristine and loaded with 50,000 Amel factory extras. New cost to day would be over 600,000 Euros. We are asking 450,000 Euros. VAT not paid. Chesapeake location. American owner. Contact: sailslady@... The last out of water marine survey was done at Amel Guadeloupe in 1/204. Yanmar 75 HP replaced in Hyrers 7/03 and has 655 hours. Genset has 1010 hours. We encourage any interested party to see 2 or 3 new and used Amels THEN see Sailslady before buying any Amel. Our Amel is in better condition than many new Amels and most preused ones. All the wrinkles and problems have been worked out. If you know boats you know what I mean. I would be able to show Sailslady in Baltimore between September 17 and 22 and again October 8 -13. Again thank you for opening your Amel French language Forum to those of us that can not speak French. Byron Henderson sailslady@...
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Re: Hurth Transmission ID
salsman2 <r.salsman@...>
I am not sure of your transmission type but the guys at Foley engines
will be able to help you. http://www.foleyengines.com/home.html Foley Marine & Industrial Engines, Inc. 200 Summer Street Worcester, MA 01604 www.FoleyEngines.com Phone: Fax: Email: 1-800-23-FOLEY (U.S.) +1 508 753 2979 +1 508 799 2276 info@... Ask Dr Diesel. Good luck Rick --- In amelyachtowners@..., silkair@a... wrote: I am trying to identify the Hurth Transmission in our 1983 Mangoand need some help. The data tag is damaged. The only manual we have is inFrench and is for a HBW5,10, or 20 The manual drawings do not seem to match upwith what we have mated to our Perkins 4-236. Our transmission has theshifting arm on the top, not the side as shown in drawings. Our buyers surveyrefers to it as a Hurth 4 transmission. The transmissiion shifts fine but makes asimple transmissions? Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water maker lay-up
john martin <symoondog@...>
David,
In addition to the information I gave you about winterizing your watermaker, I forgot to mention that if you lay your Amel up in extreame cold, you may also want to winterize all of your salt water intakes. This is easily done by getting a couple of gallons of anti-freeze ( the enviomental type). Turn off your salt water intake, and take off the top of the filter. I call this the sea chest. Start your engine, and when all the water is gone, pour in the anti-freeze. When you see the anti-freeze coming out of the exaust, shut off the engine. Do the same thing for the generator. With the sea chest full of anti-freeze turn on each toilet until the anti-freeze goes in the toilet and out the discharge. If your anchor wash is connected to the same sea chest, run that also. Make sure the anti-freeze is not only enviomental friendly but non corrosive for aluminum, and rubber, i.e. your impeller and toilet parts. If you run your charger all the time, it generates enough heat to keep the engine room a little warm, but I allways turn off my charger and main battery bank when I leave the boat for any time. The bildge pump is wired direct to the batteries, so cutting off the main switch doesn't effect it, and if you do a proper job storing your Amel you won't need a bildge pump anyhow. If you leave the switch on, then the computers,clocks, etc. will eventully run the batteries down. This also can tell you if your batteries are going bad. I can leave my boat for months with no charger on and when I get back the batteries are still at 100% . If I come back and they're at 90% they're gone. Regards John 'Moondog" SM 248 From: "john martin" <symoondog@...>_________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx
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Birth of a French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum
Naegels Patrick <naegels@...>
Hello Amel owners,
I have the pleasure to introduce the brand new French speaking Amel Sailboats Forum on http://www.forum-voiliers-amel.net In the same spirit as this forum, forum-voiliers-amel's aim is to share owners experiences, good tips, and offer free space to present used Amel sailboats for sale (for owner only). Every body is welcome, but of course in French … Do not hesitate to contact me, we certainly have synergy to find. All the best Patrick patrick@...
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water maker lay-up
john martin <symoondog@...>
David,
Its a very simple process to pickle your water maker. The object is to circulate a solution through your system to eliminate the possibility of bacteria while you are not using the unit. To do this you mix a 1/4 cup ( 2 ozs.) of sodium bisulphate in a bucket of pure water (2 1/2 gallons). If you need to protect from freezing, add 2 litres of glycerine. Then you flush your system with fresh water the usual way for about 5 minutes. Cut off the main salt water intake. Disconect the intake hose of the water maker at the filter on the water maker maker side. Put this hose in the bucket. Take off the outlet hose (discharge) and put it into the bucket. Turn on the water maker at the panel. ( switch only) The unit will now suck the solution out of the bucket through the system and back into the bucket. Do this for 10 minutes reconnect the hoses and you are done. To turn the unit back on in the future, simply flush with fresh water for about 10 minutes and you are ready to go. Now to explain the hard part. You will notice that the intake hose is not long enough to reach into the bucket. add a 3 or 4 ft. piece of hose, put them together with a hose barb. You'll have trouble finding the outlet hose. Its on the port side up high and discharges overboard probally with your bildge pump hose.It comes off of the control unit in the galley, so it will be coming down from above. This hose also won't reach the bucket. I just hang the bucket up with a piece of rope, or you can add a piece of hose. Hope this helps you out. The entire process should take about 1 hour once you get everything sorted out. John Martin "Monndog" sm248 From: "davidcrisp" <david@...>_________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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Hurth Transmission ID
silkair@...
I am trying to identify the Hurth Transmission in our 1983 Mango and need
some help. The data tag is damaged. The only manual we have is in French and is for a HBW5,10, or 20 The manual drawings do not seem to match up with what we have mated to our Perkins 4-236. Our transmission has the shifting arm on the top, not the side as shown in drawings. Our buyers survey refers to it as a Hurth 4 transmission. The transmissiion shifts fine but makes a fair"clunk" while doing so. Is this normal for these small and simple transmissions? Any help would be appreciated. SV Eshamy Michael P. McCarthy
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