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rings in aft cabin on maramu
sy melmar y <newsgroup@...>
since i don't have had any possibility to talk and ask one of the
preowners of my maramu #89 a (maybe silly) question: in our aft cabin there are two quite strong rings screwed in - one fwd just between the entry door to the aft cabin and the little hatch to the cockpit, the other one aft at the foot end of the beds on the center post. what are they for? i want to keep/reinstate our maramu as original as possible. i figuered that the amels did think something on most of the things they were building in their boats. thanks for any hints. marc, MELMAR Y, maramu #89, www.melmar.ch
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu
sy melmar y <newsgroup@...>
after reading your message i went on to search behind the folding table
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... and of course i found the four holes of the original plate (with the pipe according to your description). eric: no picture necessary, thanks for the offer. i just have to find an easy way to get to a similar support somewhere. thanks. marc, MELMAR Y, maramu #89, www.melmar.ch
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lindholm Sent: Montag, 20. März 2006 06:05 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu On the port aft side of the pedestal, the pipe sticks out from the pedestal and through the hole in the leaf of the table when it is down to make the bed on the port side. It is either polished stainless steel or chrome plated. It is at the height of the top of the port seat. The extended board rests on the seat all along the port side, the seat fore, and the pipe on the port side of the pedestal, for its starboard support aft. I can take a picture and email it to you next time I am at the boat. Eric sy melmar y <newsgroup@melmar.ch> wrote: thanks for replys. it looks to me that the folded down table takes ‚the whole weight’ on the stb side of the bed... ok. eric: just to get it right. the original pipe is affixed to the pedestal - the one in the middle through the „two inch hole“ or towards the seatinglocker on port side? marc, S/Y MELMAR Y, maramu #89 -----Original Message----- From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lindholm Sent: Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 21:27 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu On my Maramu the extended board rests on the lip of the seat forward, and a small pipe sticks out of the "two inch hole" in the table when it is folded down to support the other end aft. The original pipe is approx 1" diameter by 4" long and affixed to the pedestal. Eric 105 Horst Pause <horst@dpnsoftware.com> wrote: On my Maramu the folded out part of the double bed rests against the lip on the folded down table, which has worked quite well so far. Whilst I don't know whether this is the original feature, I have seen the same arrangement on other Maramus. Good luck with your rebuild. Horst, Maramu 185 ________________________________ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sy melmar y Sent: 16 March 2006 15:38 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu hello i'm tying to reinstate some 'lost' original installations on our maramu. one of them being the double bed on port side in the salon. putting the second wooden board under the port bench board is the easy part. this one folds out toward the mid pedestal. fwd it lies on the short cross bench. on the aft side it must lie on something as well. is the about two inch hole in the down folded table the solution? could anybody show or explain the item which was originally installed for that purpose? thanks. marc, S/Y MELMAR Y, maramu #89
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Re: Anchor Chain
bobparry1947 <bob@...>
When we bought our SM in 2004, she came with 50m of 8mm chain. Last
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year, we bought a new gypsy from Amel but you should be able to get one from a Lofrans distributor as listed on their website or any Lofrans supplier. We now have 90m (we had ordered 100m) of 10mm short link hot dipped chain. Be aware that there are two sizes of short link so match the chain to the gypsy. We have an anchor swivel between the anchor and the chain. We don't have a problem with storing the chain in the chain locker and have not had any problems in that area. Nor is the weight a problem. We did find that the chain peeler was catching the chain as we brought it in. As we were not able to easily get a new one, we took it off. So far, that has worked well. Don't use rope near coral. Can't help with chain suppliers as our boat is in the Med and we are Australian. Bob and Ann Parry Nowornot SM#33
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "mike_ondra" <mondra@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Muffler question
asm283 <no_reply@...>
Hi Joel
Thank you for the information. I will contact Olivier. I can get Vetus products here. Hows the 54. Vito ASM # 283 Wanderer --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joel F. Potter" <jfpottercys@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Muffler question
amelforme
Hi Vito,
That muffler is aluminum, not stainless. They are not able to be repaired. Trust me. We tried twice and the only one who was happy was the welding supplies store. AMEL went to a plastic/poly type on later boats from VETUS. The advantage was that they don't corrode and since they are "flexible" they eliminated vibration and were a little more quiet. The big negative is they melt if the raw water injection at the exhaust elbow goes away. All in all, most folks like them better than the original or the fiberglass pot-type Aqua Lift brand mufflers. Perhaps Olivier could supply us with the model number and any installation tips. Hey Olivier... All the best, Joel F. Potter AMEL 54 Hull # 14, HOLLIS
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor Chain
Thomas.Neuland@t-online.de <thomas.neuland@...>
Dear Mike,
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I had the same question as you had- the chain was just too short, old and way too light. We had a modification done at Amel's shipyard in Hyeres and the recommended 76 m of 10 mm nickeled (not stainless) chain with just another nutwheel on the Lofrans windlass. It is a super combination. The lenghth is just right because it is not resulting in "chain-mountains" inside the chain-house. Do yourself a favor and add a turning clutch between anchor and chain since the chain tends to get twisted a this lenghths. About non-metric sizes I don't know of course, but Amel's info and support was (again) superb. Fair winds. Tom Neuland "Mallamok" SM # 003
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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:06:37 +0100 Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Anchor Chain From: "mike_ondra" To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Having purchased "Drifter" SM #240 in October we are having great fun exploring and beginning to understand some of the myriad systems on board. Recently checking the anchor chain locker for the first time from the fore stateroom, we found a mound of rusted chain requiring a hammer to break it up. Me-thinks it time to replace the chain. Being in the US, metric chain seems unatainable, hence a potential incompatibility with the windlass gypsy. Anyway, looking for suggestions, knowing that there are probably as many opinions about anchoring as there are skippers. 1) Recommended size/type chain. Thinking 3/8" G40 or G70, but can a replacement gypsy for that size chain be found for this windlass. Alternatively, is metric chain available in the US at palatable prices. 2) Recommended rode configuration. Thinking 100-150' of chain and 100'-150' of rope. Planning cruising in Caribbean and South Pacific. Thanks for any help with this, Mike Ondra "Drifter" SM #240 Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu
Eric Lindholm
On the port aft side of the pedestal, the pipe sticks out from the pedestal and through the hole in the leaf of the table when it is down to make the bed on the port side. It is either polished stainless steel or chrome plated. It is at the height of the top of the port seat. The extended board rests on the seat all along the port side, the seat fore, and the pipe on the port side of the pedestal, for its starboard support aft. I can take a picture and email it to you next time I am at the boat. Eric
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sy melmar y <newsgroup@melmar.ch> wrote: thanks for replys. it looks to me that the folded down table takes ‚the whole weight’ on the stb side of the bed... ok. eric: just to get it right. the original pipe is affixed to the pedestal - the one in the middle through the „two inch hole“ or towards the seatinglocker on port side? marc, S/Y MELMAR Y, maramu #89
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lindholm Sent: Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 21:27 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu On my Maramu the extended board rests on the lip of the seat forward, and a small pipe sticks out of the "two inch hole" in the table when it is folded down to support the other end aft. The original pipe is approx 1" diameter by 4" long and affixed to the pedestal. Eric 105 Horst Pause <horst@dpnsoftware.com> wrote: On my Maramu the folded out part of the double bed rests against the lip on the folded down table, which has worked quite well so far. Whilst I don't know whether this is the original feature, I have seen the same arrangement on other Maramus. Good luck with your rebuild. Horst, Maramu 185 ________________________________ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sy melmar y Sent: 16 March 2006 15:38 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu hello i'm tying to reinstate some 'lost' original installations on our maramu. one of them being the double bed on port side in the salon. putting the second wooden board under the port bench board is the easy part. this one folds out toward the mid pedestal. fwd it lies on the short cross bench. on the aft side it must lie on something as well. is the about two inch hole in the down folded table the solution? could anybody show or explain the item which was originally installed for that purpose? thanks. marc, S/Y MELMAR Y, maramu #89 SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Muffler question
Eric Lindholm
Yes it does. You will probably get more as time goes on. You will probably have to either replace it or fiberglass the whole muffler. Eric maramu 105
asm283 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hello I have the Volvo engine on my SM. There is a hole in the middle of the stainless steel muffler. There is some rust buildup in this hole as well as some slight weeping. Has anyone had this problem. Does this mean that the muffler is rusting from within. Thank you Vito Ciaravino ASM 283 SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------
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Muffler question
asm283 <no_reply@...>
Hello
I have the Volvo engine on my SM. There is a hole in the middle of the stainless steel muffler. There is some rust buildup in this hole as well as some slight weeping. Has anyone had this problem. Does this mean that the muffler is rusting from within. Thank you Vito Ciaravino ASM 283
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] fueltank inspection holes on maramu
sy melmar y <newsgroup@...>
ok. i'm really surprised... but then we will have to do those works next
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year with an empty tank! marc, MELMAR Y, maramu #89
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Wallace Sent: Freitag, 17. März 2006 21:34 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] fueltank inspection holes on maramu I concur with Eric. Friends of ours with a sister ship had an inspection port installed a couple of years ago. Not a major task except for making sure the metal bits are out of the tank after cutting the access port. But if the goal is to clean the tank anyway.... At the same time, they also installed a TankTender fuel gage, the non-electric kind that uses air pressure and said it worked fine. I don't know the cost of any of this. Dave sv Air Ops Maramu #104 From: Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@sbcglobal.net>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu
sy melmar y <newsgroup@...>
thanks for replys. it looks to me that the folded down table takes ‚the
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whole weight’ on the stb side of the bed... ok. eric: just to get it right. the original pipe is affixed to the pedestal - the one in the middle through the „two inch hole“ or towards the seatinglocker on port side? marc, S/Y MELMAR Y, maramu #89
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lindholm Sent: Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 21:27 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu On my Maramu the extended board rests on the lip of the seat forward, and a small pipe sticks out of the "two inch hole" in the table when it is folded down to support the other end aft. The original pipe is approx 1" diameter by 4" long and affixed to the pedestal. Eric 105 Horst Pause <horst@dpnsoftware.com> wrote: On my Maramu the folded out part of the double bed rests against the lip on the folded down table, which has worked quite well so far. Whilst I don't know whether this is the original feature, I have seen the same arrangement on other Maramus. Good luck with your rebuild. Horst, Maramu 185 ________________________________ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sy melmar y Sent: 16 March 2006 15:38 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu hello i'm tying to reinstate some 'lost' original installations on our maramu. one of them being the double bed on port side in the salon. putting the second wooden board under the port bench board is the easy part. this one folds out toward the mid pedestal. fwd it lies on the short cross bench. on the aft side it must lie on something as well. is the about two inch hole in the down folded table the solution? could anybody show or explain the item which was originally installed for that purpose? thanks. marc, S/Y MELMAR Y, maramu #89
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] fueltank inspection holes on maramu
David Wallace
I concur with Eric. Friends of ours with a sister ship had an inspection port installed a couple of years ago. Not a major task except for making sure the metal bits are out of the tank after cutting the access port. But if the goal is to clean the tank anyway.... At the same time, they also installed a TankTender fuel gage, the non-electric kind that uses air pressure and said it worked fine. I don't know the cost of any of this.
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Dave sv Air Ops Maramu #104
From: Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@sbcglobal.net>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] fueltank inspection holes on maramu
Eric Lindholm
I didn't find any either. Eric 105
sy melmar y <newsgroup@melmar.ch> wrote: hi there follwoing the fuel polishing issue i'm planning do have some work done on our fuel system. taking the top cover board off the fuel tank i expected to find some inspection holes for a first check. can't find them. any hint? marc, MELMAR Y, maramu #89 SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu
Eric Lindholm
On my Maramu the extended board rests on the lip of the seat forward, and a small pipe sticks out of the "two inch hole" in the table when it is folded down to support the other end aft. The original pipe is approx 1" diameter by 4" long and affixed to the pedestal. Eric 105
Horst Pause <horst@dpnsoftware.com> wrote: On my Maramu the folded out part of the double bed rests against the lip on the folded down table, which has worked quite well so far. Whilst I don't know whether this is the original feature, I have seen the same arrangement on other Maramus. Good luck with your rebuild. Horst, Maramu 185 ________________________________ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sy melmar y Sent: 16 March 2006 15:38 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu hello i'm tying to reinstate some 'lost' original installations on our maramu. one of them being the double bed on port side in the salon. putting the second wooden board under the port bench board is the easy part. this one folds out toward the mid pedestal. fwd it lies on the short cross bench. on the aft side it must lie on something as well. is the about two inch hole in the down folded table the solution? could anybody show or explain the item which was originally installed for that purpose? thanks. marc, S/Y MELMAR Y, maramu #89 SPONSORED LINKS Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht &w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q> Sailing yacht <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing +yacht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> Amel <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3 =Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w> Boating sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Saili ng+yacht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA ________________________________ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "amelyachtowners <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners>; " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>; . ________________________________ SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu
Horst Pause <horst@...>
On my Maramu the folded out part of the double bed rests against the lip
on the folded down table, which has worked quite well so far. Whilst I don't know whether this is the original feature, I have seen the same arrangement on other Maramus. Good luck with your rebuild. Horst, Maramu 185 ________________________________ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sy melmar y Sent: 16 March 2006 15:38 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] double bed in salon on maramu hello i'm tying to reinstate some 'lost' original installations on our maramu. one of them being the double bed on port side in the salon. putting the second wooden board under the port bench board is the easy part. this one folds out toward the mid pedestal. fwd it lies on the short cross bench. on the aft side it must lie on something as well. is the about two inch hole in the down folded table the solution? could anybody show or explain the item which was originally installed for that purpose? thanks. marc, S/Y MELMAR Y, maramu #89 SPONSORED LINKS Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht &w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q> Sailing yacht <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing +yacht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> Amel <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3 =Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w> Boating sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Saili ng+yacht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA ________________________________ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "amelyachtowners <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners>; " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>; . ________________________________
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fueltank inspection holes on maramu
sy melmar y <newsgroup@...>
hi there
follwoing the fuel polishing issue i'm planning do have some work done on our fuel system. taking the top cover board off the fuel tank i expected to find some inspection holes for a first check. can't find them. any hint? marc, MELMAR Y, maramu #89
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double bed in salon on maramu
sy melmar y <newsgroup@...>
hello
i'm tying to reinstate some 'lost' original installations on our maramu. one of them being the double bed on port side in the salon. putting the second wooden board under the port bench board is the easy part. this one folds out toward the mid pedestal. fwd it lies on the short cross bench. on the aft side it must lie on something as well. is the about two inch hole in the down folded table the solution? could anybody show or explain the item which was originally installed for that purpose? thanks. marc, S/Y MELMAR Y, maramu #89
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] BATTERIES FOR SULAJON SM #347
Horst Pause <horst@...>
Thanks. I hope that I can find an equivalent here. Horst Maramu 185
________________________________ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lindholm Sent: 16 March 2006 15:18 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] BATTERIES FOR SULAJON SM #347 I use trojan 105 batteries which are 220 ah, cost about $100 or less US. I use all 6 batteries for the house, and installed a separate 12 volt starting battery for the engine. Eric maramu 105 Horst Pause <horst@dpnsoftware.com> wrote: What batteries do you use? Have they got bolt and nut connectors? I bought (expensive) Deka Saturated Glass Mat, 12 V, and forgot to physically disconnect the inverter during a recent 4 month lay-up. This caused such severe sulphation that the batteries are now for the skip. The boat is in Sardinia. Thank you for any information you can give me. Horst, Maramu 185 ________________________________ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lindholm Sent: 15 March 2006 03:22 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] BATTERIES FOR SULAJON SM #347 6 volt is the only way to go. you can discharge/ recharge a 6 volt battery up to 1,000 times compared to a 12 volt, which the best only go around 250. The plates are twice as thick on the 6 volt. I have used them for at least 10 years, and would never go back. Two 6 volt batteries provide almost the same amp hours as a 12 volt 8d, using only two thirds the space, and they are a lot easier to get in and out of the boat. Eric maramu 105 jfolino901 <jfolino901@yahoo.com> wrote: HAS ANYONE HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH 6 VOLT BATTERIES FOR THE HOUSE BATTERIES? I HAVE HAD GOOD LUCK WITH ROLLS BATTERIES. I AM NOT IN NEED YET, BUT WANT TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. JOHN --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- SPONSORED LINKS Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht &w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q> Sailing yacht <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing +yacht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> Amel <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3 =Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w> Boating sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Saili ng+yacht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA ________________________________ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "amelyachtowners <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners>; " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>; . ________________________________ SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- SPONSORED LINKS Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht &w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q> Sailing yacht <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing +yacht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> Amel <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3 =Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w> Boating sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Saili ng+yacht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA ________________________________ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "amelyachtowners <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners>; " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>; . ________________________________
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] BATTERIES FOR SULAJON SM #347
Eric Lindholm
I use trojan 105 batteries which are 220 ah, cost about $100 or less US. I use all 6 batteries for the house, and installed a separate 12 volt starting battery for the engine. Eric maramu 105
Horst Pause <horst@dpnsoftware.com> wrote: What batteries do you use? Have they got bolt and nut connectors? I bought (expensive) Deka Saturated Glass Mat, 12 V, and forgot to physically disconnect the inverter during a recent 4 month lay-up. This caused such severe sulphation that the batteries are now for the skip. The boat is in Sardinia. Thank you for any information you can give me. Horst, Maramu 185 ________________________________ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lindholm Sent: 15 March 2006 03:22 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] BATTERIES FOR SULAJON SM #347 6 volt is the only way to go. you can discharge/ recharge a 6 volt battery up to 1,000 times compared to a 12 volt, which the best only go around 250. The plates are twice as thick on the 6 volt. I have used them for at least 10 years, and would never go back. Two 6 volt batteries provide almost the same amp hours as a 12 volt 8d, using only two thirds the space, and they are a lot easier to get in and out of the boat. Eric maramu 105 jfolino901 <jfolino901@yahoo.com> wrote: HAS ANYONE HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH 6 VOLT BATTERIES FOR THE HOUSE BATTERIES? I HAVE HAD GOOD LUCK WITH ROLLS BATTERIES. I AM NOT IN NEED YET, BUT WANT TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. JOHN --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- SPONSORED LINKS Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht &w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q> Sailing yacht <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing +yacht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> Amel <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3 =Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w> Boating sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Saili ng+yacht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA ________________________________ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "amelyachtowners <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners>; " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>; . ________________________________ SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Digest Number 776
Eric Lindholm
David, I agree with your wiring diagram as set forth in the first part of your email, but I question if I understand your last comment about orienting the batteries + - then -+ then + - then - +. You end up with two + terminals and I don't know what voltage. The batteries have to be aligned as in the first part of your email + - then+ - then+ - then+ -, and you will end up with one bank of 24 volts, with a + and - terminal to connect to the next bank ++ and -- to power the boat. 2 banks of 24 volts, and most 6 volt batteries are 220 ah, so one 24 bank should also be 24 volt 220 ah, with the two combined at 440 ah. Eric
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dlm48@aol.com wrote: i wonder if this will work -- [6V] ---------- [6V] ----------- [6V] ----------- [6V] ----- 24V 110AH + *** - === + *** - === + *** - === + *** - || . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|| || [6V] ---------- [6V] ----------- [6V] ----------- [6V] ----- 24V 110AH + *** - === + *** - === + *** - === + *** - || . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|| || . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|| || . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|| To Positive . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . To Negative 24V buss bar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24V buss bar --- 24V 220AH also assuming the 6V bats have a terminal at each end you can orientate the bats + - then - + then + - then - + so that your serial interconnect cables are very very short regards David
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From: Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@sbcglobal.net> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:54:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Digest Number 776 David, I guess I missed the 24 volt question. I just wanted to clarify the manner in which the batteries are connected. I have seen owners try to connect all of the negative terminals together, or the supply positive and negative to terminals used to wire the batteries in series with varying results, ie melted cables, sparks, or simply a connection to a 6 volt supply. Love this site. Eric dlm48@aol.com wrote: ah ha but - Bill has a 24 V system on his SM2000 which is why i posted what i posted regards David -----Original Message----- From: Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@sbcglobal.net> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:37:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Digest Number 776 Bill you connect the positive terminal of one battery to the negative terminal of another battery, and those two batteries equal one 12 volt battery. You will have one positive terminal( which I will call A terminal), and one negative terminal(which I will call B terminal) which are not connected to anything, and these are your new 12 volt positive and negative terminals. Make up four sets like this. Connect the 4 positive A terminals to each other, and the 4 negative B terminals to each other just like you do your 12 volt batteries, and then run this to your battery switch. Use the largest battery cable you can find for all connections, this is very important. These batteries have a lot of power, and undersized cable will not let you utilize all that is available. Eric dlm48@aol.com wrote: cunfused i am you will need FOUR 6V batteries wired in series to produce 24V if you have EIGHT 6V batteries then you have two sets of 4 series wired batteries wired in parallel to double the AH capacity the only new wiring would be the series wiring as in the above example six short piecies of wire and so on regards David -----Original Message----- From: Bill Rouse <brouse@gmail.com> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:28:20 -0600 Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Digest Number 776 Eric & John, I am intrigued by this 6 volt option. I have 12 house batteries. . I assume that you would divide these into 4 parallel wired sets of 3 batteries with an output of 6 volts per set. . Then I assume that you would wire 2 of these sets of 3 in series producing 12 volts and do the same with the other 2 sets of three. . Lastly I assume that you wire the 2 12 volt pairs in series to produce 24 volts. I guess another option would be 3 sets of 4 wired in a series and then connect the 3 series-wired sets parallel to produce 24 volts? I assume that either method will require almost all new wiring? Any input will be appreciated. Regards, Bill Rouse S/V Security SM2 #387 Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Sailing Sailing yacht Amel Boating sailing --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "amelyachtowners" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------
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