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Re: D60 membranes

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Michael, I now need to replace my D60 membranes. What was the reference for your replacements? Did you get them from AirIce and waht did they charge for two?
Fair winds, Ian Jenkins, Pen Azen, Ushuaia


From: michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:06:20 -0800 (PST)

Thanks Judy, I found the membranes to fit the D60 and
I have thaken the assembly apart before. So thanks
again for taking the time to respond, Michael



--- Judy <sailingjudy@gmail.com> wrote:



I believe the D60 is different from our model. Our
model is the
Dessalator 160 which is the 240 volt 50 hz, 160
liter/hour watermaker.

The membranes we purchased from Air Water and Ice
are SW30-2540.
These are 2.5" x 40"

Before you do anything study the photo section on
this website for
the watermaker and membrane tubes and some very
detailed instructions
in a posting both done by Gary Silver, a SM2 owner.

I believe you can measure your membrane tubes to
determine if they
are about 2.75" outside diameter (2.5' inside
diameter) and about 40"
long between the end caps.

We recommend ordering a complete set of O rings for
the end caps and
for the high pressure fittings (3 ---1 an
interconnect bobbin between
the two tubes and two raw water inlet fittings) from
Amel or
Dessalator before you start the job...also you will
find postings on
this website for O ring sizes if you want to buy
generic O rings.

We not only needed a few O rings, but also had to
replace 2 end caps
(the seats in the end caps for the interconnect
bobbin were in bad
shape from high pressure leakage)...we elected to
replace all 4 end
caps.

Bill & Judy Rouse
S/V Security
SM2 #387


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, michael
grunstein
<mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:

Judy, I am in touch with Air, Water & Ice re the
membranes and they are telling me that you bought
the
SW3-2540 membranes. Can you please confirm to me
that
your watermaker actually is the Dessalator D60.
Thanks, Michael SM #345

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DISHWASHER & MICROWAVE

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

Does anyone know if there is a problem using 60 cycle current with the
dishwasher and microwave. Apparantly, there is not a problem with the
airconditioner. Happy New Year Peter Pappas 'CALLISTO' SM#369 La Paz
Mexico.


Re: TDS levels

Peter Turner <peterhturner@...>
 

Dear Gary and others!
Thanks for all the interesting comments. I seem to have opened a can of worms!
My SM2000 "Asolare" has a 60 l/m Duo fitted and I thought that as long as the indicator showed "safe Water" all the flow into the tank was OK. Do I assume that this testing devise does not work in this way?
I have ordered (now under review) the Duo 100l/h unit for my Amel 54, as the larger unit also offered can not be used on 24 Volts.
I have four large solar panels and with a shaft generator normally have fully charged batteries when underway. When I have to motor sail I use the watermaker on 24 Volts to effectivelly use the high output of the 175 amp alternator on the engine. I know that nothing is for free - but it feels like that!!!
Thanks so much for you very helpful comments.
Peter


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Re: New Amel 54

Peter Turner <peterhturner@...>
 

Hi John,
Thanks for email.
The gang planck has clearly been a problem for Amel but the latest version appears to be excellent as the two piece unit retracts as the hand hold folds neatly into a storage slot and the assembly then rotates into its "letterbox".
Kind regards,
Peter


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM 349

Roger Banks <roger.banks@...>
 

I had this problem for a long time, namely access to messages but not
to photos or other members-only selections. It was resolved when I
discovered that I had somehow over the years set up two yahoo logins.
I was registered for our group under one login but was logging in
with the other one. Since I sorted that out, I've enjoyed accessing
the photos.

Regards Roger, Zorba, Mango 28

On 26/12/2006, at 8:30 AM, Dr. Seidel wrote:

I am unable to access photos and related membership files, even
though I am signed in with my Yahoo ID and password. I do have
access to posted messages on the web page, though. My Yahoo ID is
sundanceharleyrider. Please include me in the AMEL Users Group. I
am in the email groups as I have received these emails since
December 2005. If I need to do anything on my end, please let me know.

Thank you for your time.

Murray Seidel, SM 349
Wilmington, NC





SM 349

Dr. Seidel <mseidel@...>
 

I am unable to access photos and related membership files, even though I am signed in with my Yahoo ID and password. I do have access to posted messages on the web page, though. My Yahoo ID is sundanceharleyrider. Please include me in the AMEL Users Group. I am in the email groups as I have received these emails since December 2005. If I need to do anything on my end, please let me know.

Thank you for your time.

Murray Seidel, SM 349
Wilmington, NC


Re: Climma Air Conditioner Operation on 50/60 Hertz Power

Judy Rouse
 

Gary,

About half of the time we run our Clima units on 50hz and the other
half at 60hz. The authorized Climma agent in Trinidad said that there
would be no problem...there has not been.

Merry Christmas from Christmas Cove, St. James, USVI
Bill & Judy Rouse
SM2 #387

Has anyone experienced ill effects
from running their Climma AC units on 60 hertz power? Just
interested in other members experience.
Merry Christmas, Gary Silver


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Air Conditioner Operation on 50/60 Hertz Power

eric freedman
 

Gary,

I run my a/c units all summer on 6o cycles and most of the winter in St
martin also on 60 cycles -so far no problems.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 2:30 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Air Conditioner Operation on 50/60 Hertz
Power



Hello all members with Climma AC on their boats:

I am installing a new 4th Climma Compact 10EH air conditioner to
help cool the saloon/galley area of my Super Maramu. The dealer
in Annapolis who helped me import the 230 volt 50 hertz unit to
Antigua has forwarned me that the unit is for 50 hertz use only. Yet I
have run my other three Compact Climma ACs for the past 5 years
on both 50 and 60 hertz power without apparent ill effect (just a
Joel indicated that we could). Has anyone experienced ill effects
from running their Climma AC units on 60 hertz power? Just
interested in other members experience.

Merry Christmas, Gary Silver


Black panels between cabin windows

John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
 

Hi Gary,
Anne tackled this problem last summer. The really hard bit was removing
the adhesive. The film goes under the stainless trim and some could be
pulled out and the rest was cut flush. I suppose there is a solvent
which would remove the adhesive easily but it is not acetone or white
spirit. Chewing gum remover was a help but only comes in tiny tubes,
the best stuff we had to hand was an Australian or NZ product called
Disolvit and perhaps Swarfega, the hand cleaner. Perhaps Joel knows
what Amel used to get rid of it? It took many hours hard work to clean
off. Care was taken to reduce the risk of disolving the sealant holding
the windows water tight
She used a push scraper with a razor blade but I suspect a pull
scraper such as a Scarsten would have been better as the push one
tended to dig into the gelcoat. Anne used a brush to apply black enamel
paint having found that Hammerite left brush marks.

Merry Christmas to all, Anne and John, SM 319


Climma Air Conditioner Operation on 50/60 Hertz Power

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hello all members with Climma AC on their boats:

I am installing a new 4th Climma Compact 10EH air conditioner to
help cool the saloon/galley area of my Super Maramu. The dealer
in Annapolis who helped me import the 230 volt 50 hertz unit to
Antigua has forwarned me that the unit is for 50 hertz use only. Yet I
have run my other three Compact Climma ACs for the past 5 years
on both 50 and 60 hertz power without apparent ill effect (just a
Joel indicated that we could). Has anyone experienced ill effects
from running their Climma AC units on 60 hertz power? Just
interested in other members experience.


Merry Christmas, Gary Silver


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Delamination of Black Trim Panels Between Cabin Wind...

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Charlie:

Thanks for the painting suggestion. I will pursue that option.
I saw a new 54 the other day and from a distance it seemed
that the black panels were still covered with the same material.
Olivier Beaute responded and indicated that the laminate is
the same plastic film that is used for the Amel standard boat
name on the transom.

Regards, Gary


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels

michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
 

Thanks Judy, I found the membranes to fit the D60 and
I have thaken the assembly apart before. So thanks
again for taking the time to respond, Michael



--- Judy <sailingjudy@gmail.com> wrote:



I believe the D60 is different from our model. Our
model is the
Dessalator 160 which is the 240 volt 50 hz, 160
liter/hour watermaker.

The membranes we purchased from Air Water and Ice
are SW30-2540.
These are 2.5" x 40"

Before you do anything study the photo section on
this website for
the watermaker and membrane tubes and some very
detailed instructions
in a posting both done by Gary Silver, a SM2 owner.

I believe you can measure your membrane tubes to
determine if they
are about 2.75" outside diameter (2.5' inside
diameter) and about 40"
long between the end caps.

We recommend ordering a complete set of O rings for
the end caps and
for the high pressure fittings (3 ---1 an
interconnect bobbin between
the two tubes and two raw water inlet fittings) from
Amel or
Dessalator before you start the job...also you will
find postings on
this website for O ring sizes if you want to buy
generic O rings.

We not only needed a few O rings, but also had to
replace 2 end caps
(the seats in the end caps for the interconnect
bobbin were in bad
shape from high pressure leakage)...we elected to
replace all 4 end
caps.

Bill & Judy Rouse
S/V Security
SM2 #387


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, michael
grunstein
<mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:

Judy, I am in touch with Air, Water & Ice re the
membranes and they are telling me that you bought
the
SW3-2540 membranes. Can you please confirm to me
that
your watermaker actually is the Dessalator D60.
Thanks, Michael SM #345

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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels

Judy Rouse
 

I believe the D60 is different from our model. Our model is the
Dessalator 160 which is the 240 volt 50 hz, 160 liter/hour watermaker.

The membranes we purchased from Air Water and Ice are SW30-2540.
These are 2.5" x 40"

Before you do anything study the photo section on this website for
the watermaker and membrane tubes and some very detailed instructions
in a posting both done by Gary Silver, a SM2 owner.

I believe you can measure your membrane tubes to determine if they
are about 2.75" outside diameter (2.5' inside diameter) and about 40"
long between the end caps.

We recommend ordering a complete set of O rings for the end caps and
for the high pressure fittings (3 ---1 an interconnect bobbin between
the two tubes and two raw water inlet fittings) from Amel or
Dessalator before you start the job...also you will find postings on
this website for O ring sizes if you want to buy generic O rings.

We not only needed a few O rings, but also had to replace 2 end caps
(the seats in the end caps for the interconnect bobbin were in bad
shape from high pressure leakage)...we elected to replace all 4 end
caps.

Bill & Judy Rouse
S/V Security
SM2 #387


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, michael grunstein
<mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:

Judy, I am in touch with Air, Water & Ice re the
membranes and they are telling me that you bought the
SW3-2540 membranes. Can you please confirm to me that
your watermaker actually is the Dessalator D60.
Thanks, Michael SM #345


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Delamination of Black Trim Panels Between Cabin Wind...

svmalaika@...
 

Gary,

We had MALAIAKA II refit at AMEL's yard in Hyeres about a year ago. While
there they fixed the delamination problem. They removed the laminate, carefully
masked the area and painted it with a two part black paint. The masking took
about 4 hours and the painting about 5 minutes! It looks great and has held
up fine so far.

I'm not sure exactly what paint they used, but I'm sure AMEL will advise if
you ask.

Fair winds,

Charlie Cronheim
S/V MALAIKA II, SM 336


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Delamination of Black Trim Panels Between Cabin Wind...

svmalaika@...
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Delamination of Black Trim Panels Between Cabin Wind...

svmalaika@...
 

Gary,

We had MALAIKA II refit at AMEL's yard in Hyeres about a year ago. The
delamination problem was fixed at that time. They removed the laminate, carefully
taped and masked the area and spray painted with a two part black paint.


Delamination of Black Trim Panels Between Cabin Windows

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hellow everyone:

My boat is now 5 years old and much of that time has been in the Caribbean. The black
panels that are interspersed between the cabin windows are made of some type of plastic
film laminated to a plastic or fiber substrate, and the black film is shrinking and delaminating
(presumable from UV and heat exposure).

I suspect that this is a common problem as I have seen similar appearances on other Amels.
Has anyone undertaken a repair for this cosmetic problem?

Would stripping the plastic film and painting with some type of polyurethane paint work? I
have toyed with with the idea of actually removing the panels and re-bedding new black
colored plexiglass panels (obviously a much bigger project).

Your experiences would be welcome.

Gary Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM 2000 , lying Jolly Harbor, Antigua


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels

michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
 

Judy, I am in touch with Air, Water & Ice re the
membranes and they are telling me that you bought the
SW3-2540 membranes. Can you please confirm to me that
your watermaker actually is the Dessalator D60.
Thanks, Michael SM #345


--- Judy <sailingjudy@gmail.com> wrote:

We bought the Film-Tec membranes from Air, Water &
Ice in FL; think the
cost was about $179 each. TDS meter was about $40
but don't remember
name of company. I think Gary Silver made a posting
on this group site
about the Film-Tec membranes. You could try
searching for that.

BTW, the first few seconds of product water tests at
TDS levels
exceeding 4,000, even with our new membranes. We
discard the product
water until it tests about 150 before adding any to
our tank. This can
take 5 to 10 minutes before acceptable water is
produced.

Judy
S/V Security
SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, michael
grunstein
<mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:

The watermaker performance on my boat seems to be
like
yours before you replaced the membranes. My
watermaker
is the Dessalator D60, and I am interested to know
where you bought the membranes, the TDS meter and
their cost.
Thank you,

Michael Grunstein, S/V Yonita #345


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Refinishing

koutsoukos Nikos
 

Hi john
I believe you ll do a fine job.
Just remember to let the paint cure and ventilate the tank until resin odour disappears.In case after all your water smells I ll give you another recipe.

brgds
Nick

----- Original Message -----
From: anniemno1
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Refinishing


Captain Nick,

Thanks for the very helpful reference. The other issue is surface
preparation. Was advised by a marine surveyor in Houston (Mike
Firestone) to water blast the tank with a media such as walnut shells
prior to application of the resin.

Will advise all of success of process.

John

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "koutsoukos Nikos"
<koutsoukosnikos@...> wrote:
>
> Hallo I am Nick and owner of a kirk i am master mariner and
sailing atanker at the moment in north sea ,I suggest what we use in
the ships ,a heavy duty one as follows.
> A good coating of a well known company is INTERNATIONAL :
INTERLINE 850 (WHITE OR BUFF) PRODUCT CODE:TLA 850/A
> Surface preperation :sand paper or grinding ,cleaning.
> Dry film thikness (dft 125 microns about two coatings with
roller),touch dry at 25deg C 5 hrs ,overcoating at same temp. min
8hrs max 30 days
> Thinner GTA 420.
> To avoid unpleasent odors in the water later let it dy well.
>
> rgds
> cpt.Nick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: anniemno1
> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:33 AM
> Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Refinishing
>
>
> We discovered that the fresh water tank coating is flaking on our
> Mango. Has anyone refinished their fresh water tanks?
>
> What was the process and where did you find the FDA approved
resin?
>
> Regards,
>
> Annie and John on Annie M. (Mango #1)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


RE : [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Water Tank Refinishing

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Hola John & Annie,

Dominique's Phone in Martinique is (0) 696 863 680

Tthe area code is 596 and from Canada I also dial 001 so: 001 596 696 863 680

By the way, how will you access the whole inside of the tank? I have heard of fuel thank refinishing with a vacuum technique and an injected resin but water tank?

Regards

Serge

anniemno1 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :
Serge,

Thanks for the info. Would appreciate Dominique's recommendation on
resin.

Fair Winds,

John and Annie
Annie M (Mango #1)

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "laetitiaii" <laetitiaii@...>
wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, anniemno1 <no_reply@>
wrote:

We discovered that the fresh water tank coating is flaking on our
Mango. Has anyone refinished their fresh water tanks?

What was the process and where did you find the FDA approved
resin?

Regards,

Annie and John on Annie M. (Mango #1)
A few years ago while in Martinique, I had my fuel tank ( on my
other
boat) redone by a worker who was using as finishing coat, a white
epoxy finishing resin (it looks like gel coat, but it is air
cured),
which he stated was also used to refinish repaired water tanks in
French charter catamarans which often have cracks after a Atlantic
crossing. I was advised this resin is commonly used to finish water
tanks in new boats. The epoxy finishing resins seems to be readily
available in Martinique from fiberglass and resin suppliers... If
necessary I could find the tel no of a friend (Dominique Rousselot)
who is a Marine Surveyor in Martinique, who possibly could give you
the name of the product. I am presently in Andalousia, Spain,
preparing for a crossing, i would have to look up for Dominique's
tel
no.

Serge

Mango #51





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