Great. I used .3 liters after changing all the seals, including the
prop seal. No problems!

Dave

Well done Ian and Judy.........Now you are showing something between your top and bottoms
--Congratulations, John, SM 319

Dave, We just did ours yesterday here in Annapolis. A
good grade of 90 wt. in exactly the quanity you need
is available at most boat supply store in the outboard
sections. A tube of oil can be poured right in and
that is enough. Better still using the "tube" you
don't have a smelly bottle laying about. If gear lube
spills it's on hell of a smelly mess..
Good luck and fair seas.
Richard and Joan SM 209
--- drdavegoodman <drdavegoodman@gmail.com> wrote:

Greetings all;
I have the bowthruster out for changing oil and
seals. I have gotten
conflicting info regard quantity of 90 weight oil to
put in. One
source says .3 liters, the other source 3/4 quart,
which is much more.
Any quick advice is appreciated!
Dave
s/v Bel Ami
SM #230

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Yes, I confirm 0.3 litre of SAE 90 oil. It's easier to fill with an
oil tin with an tip cap.

Patrick Naegels from SM 2000 Caramel

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--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Brennan" <brennan@...>
wrote:

0.3litre of 90 grade is fresh info I have from Amel!

Rob on Nebo SM251



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of drdavegoodman
Sent: Friday, 9 November 2007 11:27 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Quantity of bowthruster oil



Greetings all;
I have the bowthruster out for changing oil and seals. I have gotten
conflicting info regard quantity of 90 weight oil to put in. One
source says .3 liters, the other source 3/4 quart, which is much

more.

Any quick advice is appreciated!
Dave
s/v Bel Ami
SM #230





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0.3litre of 90 grade is fresh info I have from Amel!

Rob on Nebo SM251



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of drdavegoodman
Sent: Friday, 9 November 2007 11:27 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Quantity of bowthruster oil



Greetings all;
I have the bowthruster out for changing oil and seals. I have gotten
conflicting info regard quantity of 90 weight oil to put in. One
source says .3 liters, the other source 3/4 quart, which is much more.
Any quick advice is appreciated!
Dave
s/v Bel Ami
SM #230

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Greetings all;
I have the bowthruster out for changing oil and seals. I have gotten
conflicting info regard quantity of 90 weight oil to put in. One
source says .3 liters, the other source 3/4 quart, which is much more.
Any quick advice is appreciated!
Dave
s/v Bel Ami
SM #230

If anyone has been having some problems with email or losing messages as
below, it may be because of a virus. I cleaned a "Trojan" virus off of a
couple of emails that I received from the group and emailed them about it.
I recommend everyone run a virus scan of their computers.
Steve Munro

Hi,

I have post a question to Yahoo on this. We´ll see.

Jose_Luis




--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Ian & Judy Jenkins
<ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

Hi Anne and John, It seems that hotmail will allow me to write a

fresh email but somehow confiscates the text from any reply that I do.
( If anyone reading this knows why this should be, please can they
let me know?)

My deleted replies were to thank you for your chum's observations

on Coppercoat--rather different from those on the website...

The orange peel comment rings a bell from something I read a few

years ago. I wonder if they have now changed the mix? It needs to be
rolled on , using very small quantities, one litre at a time, mixing
vigorously.

I see that Mr Matthews now puts it on his new Oystercatcher so

maybe they are having more success with its application.I need to do
some more research. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen

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Hi Anne and John, It seems that hotmail will allow me to write a fresh email but somehow confiscates the text from any reply that I do.( If anyone reading this knows why this should be, please can they let me know?)
My deleted replies were to thank you for your chum's observations on Coppercoat--rather different from those on the website...
The orange peel comment rings a bell from something I read a few years ago. I wonder if they have now changed the mix? It needs to be rolled on , using very small quantities, one litre at a time, mixing vigorously.
I see that Mr Matthews now puts it on his new Oystercatcher so maybe they are having more success with its application.I need to do some more research. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen
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My last three replies under this heading have had my text deleted, for reasons that I do not understand. This is sent as a new message to see if it behaves differently. Ian Jenkins. Pen Azen
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Hello again,
Your last two messages have not appeared on the site so something is
fouled up. All I see is the subject and then nothing except the ads at
the end.
Regards Anne and John SM319

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Hi Ed, this is John´s wife Ruth. the original owner of our SM (#248) ordered the ¨king size¨ aft cabin bunk option from Amel when he bought the boat. It consists of board that fits between the permanent bunk and the front of the vanity, with a second cushion that goes on top. You don´t have to always use it of course. Both the board and the cushion store under the permanent bunk (similar to how the port side of the bow cabin bunk can be expanded) but they take up alot of volume. when deployed it uses virtually all the floor space of the aft cabin and the bunk is huge. I don´t like the king option at all, it is way too big so we dont use it ourselves as we find the aft bunk big enough, and it takes up too much good storage space if not deplyed. also, we have put a front on the vanity with two cabinet doors, so the king system blocks those doors from opening.

but John has used it when I was not on board and he had a boat load of guys doing an offshore run. The king expansion plus the lee board down the middle allowed two guys to bunk out back there with plenty of room for each of them. It also would be great if you wanted to throw a bunch of kids back there for a pajama party. Other than that it is not very useful and we don´t even have it on board right now.

I think the solution described in an earlier email by Pen Azen is a great one. It allows two people to sleep beamwise which is nice if you are in a rolly anchorage or offshore in rolly seas, yet it doesn´t completely use up all the floor space. We have already shortened the leeboard so that when it is rolly, one of us can sleep beamwise and the other can sleep fore & aft, but I think now we will reduce the size of the Amel-provided king bunk system we have to be like the one described by Pen Azen.

Ruth
MOON DOG


To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comFrom: edmundsteele@earthlink.netDate: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:57:32 +0000Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bigger Bed




My wife wants to expand the master cabin bed in our SM#331 by the addition of a small section of platform and a mattress section. This would block off the vanity of course BUT – has anyone done this? If so, how did it work? How was it made?EdDoodleBug






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Hi Ian and Judy,
I have had a reply from my friends already and it is copied out below.
To validate his views may I say that he is a top class worker with
great skills in all aspects of boats. The Brian Douglas that he
refers to is or was the Agent for Volvo and Yanmar in Opua which is a
great yachting centre much used by world cruisers. He is of course an
excellent mechanic as well as a very keen racer cometing in the
weekly round the cans races organised by the Opua Cruising Club.

"both are a major pain , but copper bot first... did Brian Douglas's
S&S after blister job.it has to be stirred constantly, and we applied
it with a two man team.one rolled and one tipped off and went back to
catch sags[which it had a habit of doing] this was done in New
Zealand summer,so temp. was in the 70's.F. [18&#92;19 C.?] anyway it went
on smooth enough with a lot of attention,then we sanded with wet or
dry paper to break open the surface. original surface was like
orangepeel, when sanded,itwas
smoother but still had resin surface in lowest bits of orangepeel
[that is everywhere] it worked well for about 4 months then had to be
swam every week for a racing bottom. slime came off easy enough but
expect hard bottom paint to be about the same.think it needed to be
sanded vigorously to open all resin, but slime will still grow.as i
said it's easy enough to clean but in new zealand in the fall and
winter it's not something to look forward too. we ended up going to
an ablative paint and it seemed
less trouble, brian raced every wednesday and weekends and you may
remember how zealous he was. our job was the best one i've
seen ,california kiwi [gary] had his sprayed on and it had major
sags , more than you'de want to sand. it's not easy to sand either.
another boat that used it and later painted over it had major
problems with the new paint , he had large areas of what looked like
electrolisis, with paint missing,that could have resulted from
another problem all together,but no one had an
answer. those were the boats that tried it in opua, and all i have
first hand knowledge of, and haven't really seen any in our
travels .thats just my opinion and you know about opinions "there
like a--holes , everybody has one...
finding out i dont really like cold weather, especially with a boat
with no heat or insulation. also it takes a lot longer to heal than
it used too,just as quick to get hurt though. sure mis the S'MINE
g&t's hope you're getting about better, and would love to run into
you both again sometime,ya never know..is it warm on malta? love to
you both and stay well, have fun edfranaka".

It sounds awful which is odd because the reason I remember it is that
it looked so perfect and I knew that they had worked hard to achieve
that finish which looked like solid copper.

Best wishes again, Anne and John, SM 319

We have been in Colombia at a marina for 7 weeks running the aft A/C
about 12 hours a day and letting it heat up 12 hours a day. It has
been hot and very humid in Cartagena, Colombia.

We removed something from this shelf above the aft locker today and
noticed that the shelf was very wet...this is the same area where the
fuel vent line runs to the outside vent.

We suspect (we hope) that the moisture in the shelf area is
condensation falling off of the vent line. We are curious to know if
anyone else has experienced this.

Regards,

Bill & Judy
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Hello Ian and Judy,
We had some great American friends during our years in the S. Pacific.He was a skilled rigger amonst other talents and is now back on the west coast of the USA. I recall that he spent a lot of time putting on Coppercot about ten years ago and I have Emailed him for report and will let you have his comments soon.

Regards, Anne and John SM319

Dear Lars,

Thanks for your reply. Your help would be most welcome. From what I
can see most Danish yards aren't really jacked up for boats the size
of a SM. I want to put the boat ashore preferably with the masts up.
The yard must be within reasonable distance from Copenhagen Kastrup,
as this is where I will comute to and from Glasgow, and obviously
not be too expensive!!

If you have any suggestions I would be most grateful as I understand
that booking in advance is quite important.

I look forweard to hearing from you,

Graham

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Lars Knudsen" <museum@...>
wrote:

Hi Graham



I am based in Copenhagen and may help you get in contact with

suited marinas

if you want.

While wintering in the water is no problem getting on the hard is

probably

nearly impossible, really expensive or both.

You may chose marinas placed farther from Copenhagen where it is

much easier

and cheaper.

Dear Lars,

Thanks for your reply. Your help would be most welcome. From what I
can see most Danish yards aren't really jacked up for boats the size
of a SM. I want to put the boat ashore preferably with the masts up.
The yard must be within reasonable distance from Copenhagen Kastrup,
as this is where I will comute to and from Glasgow, and obviously
not be too expensive!!

If you have any suggestions I would be most grateful as I understand
that booking in advance is quite important

Regards,

Lars, Denmark

Santorin Salvagny



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Boyd
Sent: 30. oktober 2007 16:54
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Winter lay up in Copenhagen or

Gothenburg

Has any one laid their SM up in either of these cities? I am

planning

to winter in that part of the world next year and obviously

personal

recommendation of a good yard with appropriate facilities for the

Amel

would give peace of mind.

Graham Boyd
SM140 "SULA"





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