Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Coolant loss in Volvo
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
thanks,Eric. both oil level and colour are fine.Ian
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TDS meters
John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
TDS meters can be sourced through the web sites in my message No 2254.
The cheap model which I bought needs a little care before fitting as they are calibrated, if I understand the instructions correctly, with the sensing probes pushed all the way in. The problem with this is that the correct angle to the flow is shown by two dots, one on the fitting and one on the sensor probe and when pushed all the way in this dot vanishes. The solution is to use a marker pen to put a line above the dot on the probe and another on the fitting so that it is easy to get it right. Good luck with it, John Hollamby, SM 319
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marine Surveyor in Antigua
koutsoukos Nikos
Hi i am cpt Nick.
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In st.Johns Antigua ther is a U.K. P@I club That probably can help you. PHILLIPS ,PHILLIPS @ ARCHIBALD PO Box546, st Marys street, st John's tel : 1 268 4620077 email :awarchibald@hotmail.com after hours : William Archibald tel .1 268 4613 604 rgds cpt .Nick
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From: amelliahona To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 12:37 PM Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Marine Surveyor in Antigua Anybody know/can recommend a marine surveyor in Antigua, BWI? My boat has reached the magic age off 5 years and the insurance company demands a survey. Regards, Gary Silver, s/v Liahona SM 335
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Refinishing
koutsoukos Nikos
Hallo I am Nick and owner of a kirk i am master mariner and sailing atanker at the moment in north sea ,I suggest what we use in the ships ,a heavy duty one as follows.
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A good coating of a well known company is INTERNATIONAL : INTERLINE 850 (WHITE OR BUFF) PRODUCT CODE:TLA 850/A Surface preperation :sand paper or grinding ,cleaning. Dry film thikness (dft 125 microns about two coatings with roller),touch dry at 25deg C 5 hrs ,overcoating at same temp. min 8hrs max 30 days Thinner GTA 420. To avoid unpleasent odors in the water later let it dy well. rgds cpt.Nick
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From: anniemno1 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:33 AM Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Refinishing We discovered that the fresh water tank coating is flaking on our Mango. Has anyone refinished their fresh water tanks? What was the process and where did you find the FDA approved resin? Regards, Annie and John on Annie M. (Mango #1)
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels
We bought the Film-Tec membranes from Air, Water & Ice in FL; think the
cost was about $179 each. TDS meter was about $40 but don't remember name of company. I think Gary Silver made a posting on this group site about the Film-Tec membranes. You could try searching for that. BTW, the first few seconds of product water tests at TDS levels exceeding 4,000, even with our new membranes. We discard the product water until it tests about 150 before adding any to our tank. This can take 5 to 10 minutes before acceptable water is produced. Judy S/V Security SM2 #387 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:
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Marine Surveyor in Antigua
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Anybody know/can recommend a marine surveyor in Antigua, BWI? My boat has reached the
magic age off 5 years and the insurance company demands a survey. Regards, Gary Silver, s/v Liahona SM 335
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Re: Water Tank Refinishing
laetitiaii <laetitiaii@...>
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, anniemno1 <no_reply@...>
wrote: A few years ago while in Martinique, I had my fuel tank ( on my other boat) redone by a worker who was using as finishing coat, a white epoxy finishing resin (it looks like gel coat, but it is air cured), which he stated was also used to refinish repaired water tanks in French charter catamarans which often have cracks after a Atlantic crossing. I was advised this resin is commonly used to finish water tanks in new boats. The epoxy finishing resins seems to be readily available in Martinique from fiberglass and resin suppliers... If necessary I could find the tel no of a friend (Dominique Rousselot) who is a Marine Surveyor in Martinique, who possibly could give you the name of the product. I am presently in Andalousia, Spain, preparing for a crossing, i would have to look up for Dominique's tel no. Serge Mango #51
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Coolant loss in Volvo
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
We have just had a curious experience with our coolant levels. Our engine is 6 years old with about 2,000 hours. Very reliable. Last May I drained all the coolant and filled up with fresh antifreeze, carefully following the instructions to open the bleed nut till the coolant overflowed it etc.The boat was then ashore till November. The coolant level remained the same.( In my experience the coolant has never needed topping up ).
When we first used the boat this November I found thtat after about 12 hours it needed almost a litre of coolant to be added to bring it up to the correct level. As there was no evidence at all of a leak I surmised that there might have been an airlock. However, this happened again about 12 hours later, though to a lesser extent ( maybe one third of a litre). Since then we have run for about 20 hours ( mainly at low revs but also flat out for about 30 minutes) and have suffered no losss at all. A Volvo mechanic I spoke to in the UK told me that it was probably one of the O rings that was`allowing the coolant to escape into the exhaust water, hence no trace in the engine room.Try as I may to read the exploded diagram in the parts manual and the workshop manual to fit his diagnosis I cant see how a perished O ring would allow what he claims.From what I can see, if an O ring went , either coolant or sea water would appear on or under the engine, but they wouldnt mix. My view is that the engine probably did have an airlock when I refilled with fresh coolant and that this took a couple of goes to work its way out of the system. My Nordahavn friend, who has a Lugger engine , tells me that he has had a very similar experience, having to top up three times after a change of coolant. I would be interested to hear if anyone else has had a similar experience. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Mar del Plata, Argentina _________________________________________________________________ Find Singles In Your Area Now With Match.com! msnuk.match.com
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Thanks to Mike and Judy for their comments.We are going to follow the the 1200 level that Mike suggests. Interestingly a neighbour here in Argentina on a Nordhavn 46 ( very smart ocean crossing motor boat) , a guy who is a boat builder himself, tells me that his water maker ( same membranes as Dessalator and everyone else) is designed to transfer to his tank any water under 1900 TDS, so it sems that the w/m manufacturers are undecided amongst themselves
I use a portable TDS meter and have the 60 lph w-maker with a tap on the panel in the galley.Having run the w/m a lot over the past week I am now struggling to get below 2000. I suspect that the membranes are shot but as a final attempt I am going to use the acid/detergent wash that is referred to in the dessalaotor handbook ( but without any details). My neighbour has all the necessary liquids so I am going to give it a go. I will report on progress.Fair winds, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen,SM 302, Mar del Plata From: "Judy" <sailingjudy@gmail.com>_________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels
michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
The watermaker performance on my boat seems to be like
yours before you replaced the membranes. My watermaker is the Dessalator D60, and I am interested to know where you bought the membranes, the TDS meter and their cost. Thank you, Michael Grunstein, S/V Yonita #345 --- Judy <sailingjudy@gmail.com> wrote: When and where are you taking these TDS readings?_________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gbWindows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here todownload it for ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
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Re: New Amel 54
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Congratulations Peter:
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I saw Joel's 54 at the Annapolis Boat Show. It is a beautiful boat and Amel/Joel have done an excellent job of improving the boat over the 53, which I think we all agree is a spectacular boat. Just one suggestion. Get a watermaker made by someone other than Dessalator if possible. My understanding is that the current version of the Dessalator watermaker still doesn't have a functional salinity testing system except for a tap to taste the water manually. Thus, if your membranes fail half way through a 2 hour water making session you will put an hours worth off sea water into your fresh water tank EVEN if you took the precaution of tasting the water at the start of production. Now, short of the non-forthrightness of Dessalator on this issue, another way you can tackle this problem is to install an electronic-in-line-continuous salinity meter with and audio/visual alarm so that the minute salt water starts going into you tanks you will know it and be able to preserve your fresh water supply. If you wonder how I know this see my previous many posts on this issue as I tried to uncover the deceit that Dessalator practiced on Amel and those of us who purchased Amels by installing a sham salinity testing circuit. Regards, Gary Silver Amel SM 335
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "peterhturner" <peterhturner@...> wrote:
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Water Tank Refinishing
anniemno1 <no_reply@...>
We discovered that the fresh water tank coating is flaking on our
Mango. Has anyone refinished their fresh water tanks? What was the process and where did you find the FDA approved resin? Regards, Annie and John on Annie M. (Mango #1)
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Coolant loss in Volvo
eric freedman
Ian,
Has your crank case oil level gone up? If it hasn't I guess you did have an airlock (probably in the water heater- heat exchanger) Fair Winds, Eric _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 7:21 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [spam] [Amel Yacht Owners] Coolant loss in Volvo We have just had a curious experience with our coolant levels. Our engine is 6 years old with about 2,000 hours. Very reliable. Last May I drained all the coolant and filled up with fresh antifreeze, carefully following the instructions to open the bleed nut till the coolant overflowed it etc.The boat was then ashore till November. The coolant level remained the same.( In my experience the coolant has never needed topping up ). When we first used the boat this November I found thtat after about 12 hours it needed almost a litre of coolant to be added to bring it up to the correct level. As there was no evidence at all of a leak I surmised that there might have been an airlock. However, this happened again about 12 hours later, though to a lesser extent ( maybe one third of a litre). Since then we have run for about 20 hours ( mainly at low revs but also flat out for about 30 minutes) and have suffered no losss at all. A Volvo mechanic I spoke to in the UK told me that it was probably one of the O rings that was`allowing the coolant to escape into the exhaust water, hence no trace in the engine room.Try as I may to read the exploded diagram in the parts manual and the workshop manual to fit his diagnosis I cant see how a perished O ring would allow what he claims.From what I can see, if an O ring went , either coolant or sea water would appear on or under the engine, but they wouldnt mix. My view is that the engine probably did have an airlock when I refilled with fresh coolant and that this took a couple of goes to work its way out of the system. My Nordahavn friend, who has a Lugger engine , tells me that he has had a very similar experience, having to top up three times after a change of coolant. I would be interested to hear if anyone else has had a similar experience. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Mar del Plata, Argentina __________________________________________________________ Find Singles In Your Area Now With Match.com! msnuk.match.com
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SAN FRANCISCO SUPER MARAMUS??
solarconstruction <solarconstruction@...>
FROM: LADY DIVINA, SM317
DOES ANYONE HAVE THEIR SUPER MARAMU, YEAR 2000 - 2004, DOCKED IN SAN FRANCISCO or LOS ANGELES?? LADY DIVINA, SM 317, WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE HELP WITH A TECHNICAL MEASUREMENT PROBLEM. THANKS, LADY DIVINA, SM 317, CRUIZING THE SOUTHERN CARIBBEAN
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wind vane on amel kirk
brgdebakker
Hi,
I'm looking for a windvane on my Amel Kirk, but don't know which type is suitable. So far I've seen a Kirk with a Pacific windvane, but there must be others out there. Any report or experience is much appreciated. Kind regards, Bart.
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New Amel 54
John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
Hello Peter,
Lucky you. I have no idea what the options are but when I went down to check my boat Bali Hai today I found the a 54 Amadou has just been moored on the same pontoon and I noticed that the gangplank was designed to swing around and vanish into a "letterbox". However because the rope handrail and folding stanchions were not folded the gangplank could not close the last thirty degrees which looked a bit unseamanlike. The reason for this is that the stanchions etc are mounted on the portside of the plank whereas it would appear that if they were on the starboard side the plank would vanish. I suppose there is some reason why the transom still only has a moveable centre stanchion instead of half the gap being with fixed stachion and lifelines so that there is space to mount a cradle for the liferaft? Just a thought in envy, John SM319
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Re: ANTI ROTATION ARMS
John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "pjppappas" <pjppappas@...> wrote:
Hello Peter, They should point aft and it is very important that the ballooner halyard is in their V because otherwise it will have a foul lead and will chafe/break causing the balooner or you, if you are using it to go up the mast, to come down the very quick way. Best wishes, Anne and John, SM 319
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ANTI ROTATION ARMS
pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
In reference to the antirotation arms on the swivel at the head of the
jib. Should those arms point forward or aft? Thanks Peter Pappas "Callisto" sm369
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New Amel 54
peterhturner <peterhturner@...>
Hi, I am the owner of a SM 2000 No 403 "Asolare", and I have been
absolutly delighted with her for the 3 1/2 years I have owned her. I have a new Amel 54 being delivered in June 2007 when I will sell my SM. My question is to Amel 54 owners as I would very much like to have thier recommendations as to the selection of the miriad of options available. I know this is a very "open" question but I would like to know of options that owners have found very useful, those that are not on the options list (bearing mind that Amel, of course, make the perfect yacht!) and perhaps those that have not lived up to expectations! Thank you in anticipation of your kind comments, Peter Turner
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Re: TDS levels
When and where are you taking these TDS readings? Water with
readings that high are not considered safe for human consumption. I may be wrong, but I believe that the WHO limit is 500 and the US standard is 300. We were getting readings of 480-495 when we stopped using the watermaker and went to bottled water until we could obtain replacement membranes. After replacing the membranes we get TDS readings ranging from 97 to 160, which is very good. Your boat may or may not have come equipped with an easily accessible test faucet; ours did not. We installed a separate faucet at the galley sink and diversion valves that allow us to divert the product water into the sink until it tests and TASTES good. Then we turn the valve and fill the water tank. We also installed another water filter between the tank and the new faucet. We use that faucet for our drinking water when not making water. See our photos on this website. Judy Rouse S/V Security Amel SM2 #387 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ian & Judy Jenkins" <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote: over 6 years has delivered over 70,000 litres.( Getting on for 1500 hours)However, armed with my new portable TDS meter I see that the water it isnow producing has a TDS reading of 1270. You can just distinguish thetaste against bottled water.typically has 36,000 TDS and that the watermaker should turn out water at 500TDS. ( it talks of filtering the water to 2%, although strictly 2% would becloser to 720 TDS) .Our shore tap water is about 112, same as bottled water.are cruising in Argentina and Southern Chile again) so these questionsarise: Assuming we continue to get a reading of about 1270 ( ie about 3.6%residue rather than 2%)tastes ok at the moment and I ususlly mix it 50-50 with fruit juice)level is OK? I have no reason to think that for cooking and showering thislevel is easily refined enough and I would be surprised if it was at alltroubling to the washing machine or dishwasher. However, I would be interestedin anyone elses view.1270 TDS, what level would be a cause of concern for drinking?of water so we have no real concerns in the short term. I am sure I canremember how to rig up a water catchment system.302, Argentinafree! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb
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