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Re: Diesel leak

matt
 

Augusto:)

Great news! Just received email from Mauro who will answer our questions soon:)))

Best Regards
Cptn. Magic
SV.DARIEN
Amel Euros #88

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "augusto.dominguez" <agdominguezo@...> wrote:

Matt,

As per your suggestion I read what Mauro had posted some time ago in reference to the fuel leak on his Euros. I subsequently sent him an email asking him if he was able to remove the fuel tank without cutting it up. (from your response I see he was unable to do so). As of now I still have not heard back from him.

I still hope to be able to remove the tank in one piece and presumably remove the bottom plate(where I am assuming the leak is sourced) and then weld on a new bottom plate with a stainless steel plate of slightly greater thickness.

I will post progress.

Greetings,

Augusto

Kayola, Euros #247

P.D. Sorry to hear you've got the same problem, cutting into the fiber will debilitate the internal structural integrity which will need to be adequately corrected after solving the diesel leak, a task which is seemingly a tedious one!


Re: Rp. : [Amel] Maramu - Has anyone replumbed gal ley sink to dr

Ken & Judy <goldendaze@...>
 

I built a corian sink with a drain in each corner, and the bottom slanted
slightly
down so sink will drain on any angle. There always an angle as Maramu has
fuel
tank far out on starboard side. The two drains go into the sump under
engine.
You will need to add a strainer to the bilge pump if you don't already have
one
and clean it every 2 or 3 weeks. We are also very careful about what goes
down,
but the strainer is still a mess. If anyone knows of a good soap to cut the
bilge mess I would like to know.

Ken & Judy
Golden Daze, Maramu 192
Kekova Roads, Turkey


Re: Fw: Alternator smart charger

Jose_Luis Isasi <jose.luis.isasi@...>
 

Hi,

Most of these need to bypass the internal regulator, so if your alternator does not have an external connection (someones have), then you need to rework the alternator to have it. Talking to a experienced installer, the best seems to be ADVERC Mk.IVa (189 pounds), and also very robust as you can install it in the engine room. I have bad feedback (from same installer) about the Sterling Universal Advanced Digital Alternator Regulator AR12VD model (79 pounds) that works the same way because of overheating failures. There is a Sterling Pro Digital Advanced Regulator (125 punds) that incorporates a fan, but I would not put it in the engine room either.

However, Sterling has a unit AB1290 (219 pounds) that does not need to bypass the internal regulator and that looks very interesting (at least to me), because it also works as a battery bank charge splitter. It is easier to install and to remove. I need to decide.

Check here for more options and links to manufacturers, this a english shop that has good pricing. http://www.jgtech.com/alternators.htm

Regards
Jose Luis
Jose_Luis

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Iv Pepe <iv_pepe@...> wrote:





----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Iv Pepe <iv_pepe@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2009 9:57:04 AM
Subject: Alternator smart charger


Hallo Everyone,
Pls, your opinion abb. alternator smart charger Xantrex, Sterling ,Adverc,  Beter charging  or dameging
atteries?  Acc. Adverc opinion ,the ratio Altern.--Batter. is 1 to 3 ?
Thank you,
Pepe SM 223





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Diesel leak

augusto.dominguez <agdominguezo@...>
 

Matt,

As per your suggestion I read what Mauro had posted some time ago in reference to the fuel leak on his Euros. I subsequently sent him an email asking him if he was able to remove the fuel tank without cutting it up. (from your response I see he was unable to do so). As of now I still have not heard back from him.

I still hope to be able to remove the tank in one piece and presumably remove the bottom plate(where I am assuming the leak is sourced) and then weld on a new bottom plate with a stainless steel plate of slightly greater thickness.

I will post progress.

Greetings,

Augusto

Kayola, Euros #247

P.D. Sorry to hear you've got the same problem, cutting into the fiber will debilitate the internal structural integrity which will need to be adequately corrected after solving the diesel leak, a task which is seemingly a tedious one!


Re: Diesel Leak

matt
 

Augusto,
I'm afraid I have this problem too...yesterday I'd check port side locker near the fuel inlet...all wood saturated with diesel...looks like a 'chainsaw" job to find the truth:(
But hey out on the high seas we can sleep after this solved;)
Best Regards
Cptn. Magic
SV. Darien
Amel Euros 39 #88

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "augusto.dominguez" <agdominguezo@...> wrote:

To Amel members:

I have observed on my Euros, a diesel seepage into the bilge. After checking the diverse lines/ connections/ filters, etc., I've unfortunately ascertained that the source of the leak is emanating from the starboard fuel tank, through what I believe to be a drainage aperture in the event water gets into the compartment which holds the fuel tank.

I recall reading on this site some time ago ( 18 ~ 24 months?) someone posting this same problem and that the corrective procedures required cutting the fiber to access the fuel tank. I would appreciate anyone who recollects the posting or for that matter has experienced this problem to please let me know procedures/solutions/corrective measures taken.

At present "on the hard' in Higuerote, Venezuela.

Thank you in advance.

Augusto Dominguez,

Kayola, Euros # 247


Re: Rép. : [Amel] Maramu - Has anyone replumbed galley sink to drain fwd 2 head intake?

joseph mc donnell
 

Does'nt the drain from the forwardhead use gravity to drain into the bilge, will you use a pump to push fluid forward, what about the build up of grease and gunk. All the pipe work is accessable in the engine compartment for cleaning purposes, added to all that will you have to drill through every rib and forward bulkhead. Leave it, the system works
Regards Joe McDonnnell to --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...> wrote:


You certainly have a good idea.
 
This is how the gally sink on the Mango does drain and it is very convenient.
 
I would suggest you check with Amel for the reason they change this very efficient system, and possibly seek thei advice on reproducing sama on a SM!
 
Serge D T , Mango _ 51

--- En date de : Mer, 8.4.09, Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...> a écrit :

De: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...>
Objet: [Amel] Maramu - Has anyone replumbed galley sink to drain fwd 2 head intake?
À: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: mercredi 8 Avril 2009, 12 h 26






Been thinking about creating a small manifold of sorts attached to the seacock for the forward head raw water intake. My thought was the galley sink might drain better going to thru-hull located on centerline.

















Découvrez les photos les plus intéressantes du jour.
http://www.flickr.com/explore/interesting/7days/

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detailed plan of the electric cables on santorin

sollbergerp <sollbergerp@...>
 

Hi,
can anybody help me. I'm lookng for detailed plan of the electric cable plans on the santorin. We want to change all electronic components to raymarine and now we are looking for detailed plans that we can design our new component cables and we need to know which cable can be taken out. We want to install a bus on which we can plug any component from raymarine now and in future. Maybe somebody has more detailed plans, which could be sent by email, if they are existing in an digital version.
Many thanks for your answers

Philipp Sollberger, santorin 104


Re: Diesel Leak

matt
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "augusto.dominguez" <agdominguezo@...> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "matt" <russisland@> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "augusto.dominguez" <agdominguezo@> wrote:

To Amel members:

I have observed on my Euros, a diesel seepage into the bilge. After checking the diverse lines/ connections/ filters, etc., I've unfortunately ascertained that the source of the leak is emanating from the starboard fuel tank, through what I believe to be a drainage aperture in the event water gets into the compartment which holds the fuel tank.

I recall reading on this site some time ago ( 18 ~ 24 months?) someone posting this same problem and that the corrective procedures required cutting the fiber to access the fuel tank. I would appreciate anyone who recollects the posting or for that matter has experienced this problem to please let me know procedures/solutions/corrective measures taken.

At present "on the hard' in Higuerote, Venezuela.

Thank you in advance.

Augusto Dominguez,

Kayola, Euros # 247
Augusto:)

Please try do general search on "euros fuel tank problem", I found couple of comments in this matter, I've also had direct advice from Mauro with his bad experience in this case but advice he gave me was clear and very specific as well as time consuming and after all he was very happy with the final result. I own Euros 39 and looks like this problem is very common, but I have much more on my plate right now and can't get there without removing motor first.
Keep it posting or email me direct-I have original plans for Euros 39/1972 but not sure if placement of the components is exact on every model?? So far restoration work going very slowly do to the weather factor but fingers cross one day sh'll see the water again.
I would like to take opportunity and ask all owners of Euros 39/41 for advice and feedback in regards original components, it replacement and overall improvements to this great design.
I'm yachtie on the very tight budget and wold love to hear from other crusing Euros owners:)

Best Regards to You ALL !

Magic
SV. Darien
Amel#88
Matt,
Thanks, I will look into previous postings to see what I can come up with.
I would suspect that there are certain differences between the Euros 39' & the 41', albeit no clue if this affects the fuel tanks placement/location/access. I do have the schematics for the 41'.
Did Mauro have the same fuel leak problem? On the starboard side?
I will keep posting progress on the issue at hand.
Good luck with your project with Darien.

Regards,
Augusto Dominguez
Kayola, Euros #247
Augusto :)

I'd try contact Mauro by no luck so far...I hope he will give you good advice about this matter, in this situation I can only include in this message few lines of advice from him: "...In my boat I found the stainless steel tanks corroded (on some welding) and leaking. Unfortunately they are fiberglassed inside the hull under the cockpit lockers. I had to cut the locker bottoms and cut piece by piece the tanks to extract them. Then clean the fiberglass (sanding and acetone several times) and, after refiberglassing the bottom in epoxy, rebuild them in wood and fiberglassing them in epoxy. This was a real nightmare! I really wish you don't have the same problem."
Unfortunately I think I have this problem too:( but hey after all this is great boat and knowing her from inside out will make your voyages more enjoyable and safe.

With THE Best Regards

Cptn. Magic
SV DARIEN
Amel Euros #88


Rép. : [Amel] Maramu - Has anyone replumbed galley sink to drain fwd 2 head intake?

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

You certainly have a good idea.
 
This is how the gally sink on the Mango does drain and it is very convenient.
 
I would suggest you check with Amel for the reason they change this very efficient system, and possibly seek thei advice on reproducing sama on a SM!
 
Serge D T , Mango _ 51

--- En date de : Mer, 8.4.09, Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com> a écrit :

De: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com>
Objet: [Amel] Maramu - Has anyone replumbed galley sink to drain fwd 2 head intake?
À: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: mercredi 8 Avril 2009, 12 h 26






Been thinking about creating a small manifold of sorts attached to the seacock for the forward head raw water intake. My thought was the galley sink might drain better going to thru-hull located on centerline.

















Découvrez les photos les plus intéressantes du jour.
http://www.flickr.com/explore/interesting/7days/

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: GROUND SIDE SELENOID - YANMAR 100HP

usrey_chuck
 

Hello

No, I do not know the part number but I thought mine was bad and it turned out to be a bad start battery. Amel told me that was the problem but I did not believe them because it would turn over the main engine when I bypassed the selenoid. The problem was that because of the small gauge of the wire going to the selenoid it cut down the current and would not activate it. I replaced my start battery and everything worked. Good luck

Chuck

S/v Helen Louise
ASM350

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "pjppappas" <pjppappas@...> wrote:

Greetings, does anyone know the part number for the gound side selenoid that sits just aft of starter relay mounted on the port side of the yanmar 100hp diesel engine. Thank you Peter Papppas SM#369 - Gulf de Papagayo, Costa Rica


GROUND SIDE SELENOID - YANMAR 100HP

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

Greetings, does anyone know the part number for the gound side selenoid that sits just aft of starter relay mounted on the port side of the yanmar 100hp diesel engine. Thank you Peter Papppas SM#369 - Gulf de Papagayo, Costa Rica


Re: Diesel Leak

augusto.dominguez <agdominguezo@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "matt" <russisland@...> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "augusto.dominguez" <agdominguezo@> wrote:

To Amel members:

I have observed on my Euros, a diesel seepage into the bilge. After checking the diverse lines/ connections/ filters, etc., I've unfortunately ascertained that the source of the leak is emanating from the starboard fuel tank, through what I believe to be a drainage aperture in the event water gets into the compartment which holds the fuel tank.

I recall reading on this site some time ago ( 18 ~ 24 months?) someone posting this same problem and that the corrective procedures required cutting the fiber to access the fuel tank. I would appreciate anyone who recollects the posting or for that matter has experienced this problem to please let me know procedures/solutions/corrective measures taken.

At present "on the hard' in Higuerote, Venezuela.

Thank you in advance.

Augusto Dominguez,

Kayola, Euros # 247
Augusto:)

Please try do general search on "euros fuel tank problem", I found couple of comments in this matter, I've also had direct advice from Mauro with his bad experience in this case but advice he gave me was clear and very specific as well as time consuming and after all he was very happy with the final result. I own Euros 39 and looks like this problem is very common, but I have much more on my plate right now and can't get there without removing motor first.
Keep it posting or email me direct-I have original plans for Euros 39/1972 but not sure if placement of the components is exact on every model?? So far restoration work going very slowly do to the weather factor but fingers cross one day sh'll see the water again.
I would like to take opportunity and ask all owners of Euros 39/41 for advice and feedback in regards original components, it replacement and overall improvements to this great design.
I'm yachtie on the very tight budget and wold love to hear from other crusing Euros owners:)

Best Regards to You ALL !

Magic
SV. Darien
Amel#88
Matt,
Thanks, I will look into previous postings to see what I can come up with.
I would suspect that there are certain differences between the Euros 39' & the 41', albeit no clue if this affects the fuel tanks placement/location/access. I do have the schematics for the 41'.
Did Mauro have the same fuel leak problem? On the starboard side?
I will keep posting progress on the issue at hand.
Good luck with your project with Darien.

Regards,
Augusto Dominguez
Kayola, Euros #247


Re: Diesel Leak

matt
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "augusto.dominguez" <agdominguezo@...> wrote:

To Amel members:

I have observed on my Euros, a diesel seepage into the bilge. After checking the diverse lines/ connections/ filters, etc., I've unfortunately ascertained that the source of the leak is emanating from the starboard fuel tank, through what I believe to be a drainage aperture in the event water gets into the compartment which holds the fuel tank.

I recall reading on this site some time ago ( 18 ~ 24 months?) someone posting this same problem and that the corrective procedures required cutting the fiber to access the fuel tank. I would appreciate anyone who recollects the posting or for that matter has experienced this problem to please let me know procedures/solutions/corrective measures taken.

At present "on the hard' in Higuerote, Venezuela.

Thank you in advance.

Augusto Dominguez,

Kayola, Euros # 247
Augusto:)

Please try do general search on "euros fuel tank problem", I found couple of comments in this matter, I've also had direct advice from Mauro with his bad experience in this case but advice he gave me was clear and very specific as well as time consuming and after all he was very happy with the final result. I own Euros 39 and looks like this problem is very common, but I have much more on my plate right now and can't get there without removing motor first.
Keep it posting or email me direct-I have original plans for Euros 39/1972 but not sure if placement of the components is exact on every model?? So far restoration work going very slowly do to the weather factor but fingers cross one day sh'll see the water again.
I would like to take opportunity and ask all owners of Euros 39/41 for advice and feedback in regards original components, it replacement and overall improvements to this great design.
I'm yachtie on the very tight budget and wold love to hear from other crusing Euros owners:)

Best Regards to You ALL !

Magic
SV. Darien
Amel#88


Re: [Amel] Servo-assisted auxiliary windvane

Dave_Benjamin
 

Saw a HydroVane on a Mason 44. That looked pretty good.

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Mr D <dshkipin@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mr D <dshkipin@gmail.com>
Subject: [Amel] Servo-assisted auxiliary windvane
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 8:33 PM












Does anyone have South Atlantic servo-assisted auxiliary rudder gear windvane installed? It looks like a viable option to purchasing a more expensive Windpilot.




























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Maramu - Has anyone replumbed galley sink to drain fwd 2 head intake?

Dave_Benjamin
 

Been thinking about creating a small manifold of sorts attached to the seacock for the forward head raw water intake. My thought was the galley sink might drain better going to thru-hull located on centerline.


Servo-assisted auxiliary windvane

Mr D
 

Does anyone have South Atlantic servo-assisted auxiliary rudder gear windvane installed? It looks like a viable option to purchasing a more expensive Windpilot.


Diesel Leak

augusto.dominguez <agdominguezo@...>
 

To Amel members:

I have observed on my Euros, a diesel seepage into the bilge. After checking the diverse lines/ connections/ filters, etc., I've unfortunately ascertained that the source of the leak is emanating from the starboard fuel tank, through what I believe to be a drainage aperture in the event water gets into the compartment which holds the fuel tank.

I recall reading on this site some time ago ( 18 ~ 24 months?) someone posting this same problem and that the corrective procedures required cutting the fiber to access the fuel tank. I would appreciate anyone who recollects the posting or for that matter has experienced this problem to please let me know procedures/solutions/corrective measures taken.

At present "on the hard' in Higuerote, Venezuela.

Thank you in advance.

Augusto Dominguez,

Kayola, Euros # 247


MARAMU MIZZEN SAIL MEASUREMENTS NON FURLING VERSION

Alejandro Paquin
 

Does anyone have the detailed mizzen sail measurements for a 1981 Maramu. Ours is a non furling system. Also what hardware is required and original sail reefing data.

Regards,

A.Paquin
s/v SIMPATICO
MARAMU 1981


Re: 4154 Perkins - Maramu - Temperature sensors

Alejandro Paquin
 

Dear Barry & Robyn:
Many thanks for responding to my question. Although we own a Maramu, I will look at your diagram to see if the SM solution could apply as well.
All the best
A.Paquin

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Bernard PERIN <perin-bernard@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thank's a lot for your information, I was looking for a solution to get the water temperature and the oil pressure.

Yes I would like to have the wiring diagram, could you send it to me.

Best regards.

Bernard PERIN
SM 100





Message du 06/04/09 09:43
De : "seagasm"
A : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Copie à :
Objet : [Amel] Re: 4154 Perkins - Maramu - Temperature sensors

I am not sure whether you received information about this but I have been through the exercise myself after a bit of a scare the cooling intake became blocked. I decided to add analogue gauges so I could monitor the water temperature and the oil pressure. The Volvo character here steered me in the wrong direction and it was only due to some research myself I was able to work this out.
There are two water temperature sensors, one is a switch the other is a temperature sender. both have wires connected to them as part of the installation of the engine but the temperature sender is not terminated behind the dash, only the switch which is activated with the alarm when the temperature exceeds a number, by then it is probably too late. By installing a VDO temperature gauge (Perkins and Volvo use), to the blanked off wires from the sender off the engine that are behind the dash you can achieve your temperature reading.

Likewise with the oil pressure/switch on the engine, there are three wires. Two are connected to the oil pressure light, the third is blanked off. Get a VDO gauge and connect to the third wire behind the dash and bingo, we have an oil pressure reading.

I do have the wiring diagram if anyone wants it.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM171

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Paquin" ...> wrote:

We have a Perkins 4154 engine on our 1981 Maramu. Ther seems to be two
temperature sensors at the top of the engine near the thermostat. One
is threaded right on the engine block. The second one in is on a T
connection right above it (hoses going to the fresh water heater).
Does anyone know what the finction of these are? I guess the one on
the engine block goes to the temperature gauge on the engine panel in
the cockpit and the second one is the temperature alarm actuator? The
second on has a 1/2 diameter thread. Does any one know where I can buy
this part new?

Alex Paquin
Simpatico
Amel Maramu #94

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[Amel] Re: 4154 Perkins - Maramu - Temperature sensors

seagasm <seagasm@...>
 

I have uploaded the wiring diagram to the files folder. The numbered boxes in the component sketch represent the plug connection pins found behind the panel. The corresponding numbers in wiring circuit can be found on the bar of either the standard circuit (without gauges) or the De Luxe circuit (with gauges). All wiring is standard colour coded.

All the best
Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM #171

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, sailw32@... wrote:

Barry, I would appreciate the wiring diagram I have been wanting to add
gauges to my boat. Thanks,Pat SM123


In a message dated 4/6/2009 3:43:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
seagasm@... writes:




I am not sure whether you received information about this but I have been
through the exercise myself after a bit of a scare the cooling intake became
blocked. I decided to add analogue gauges so I could monitor the water
temperature and the oil pressure. The Volvo character here steered me in the wrong
direction and it was only due to some research myself I was able to work this
out.

There are two water temperature sensors, one is a switch the other is a
temperature sender. both have wires connected to them as part of the installation
of the engine but the temperature sender is not terminated behind the dash,
only the switch which is activated with the alarm when the temperature
exceeds a number, by then it is probably too late. By installing a VDO temperature
gauge (Perkins and Volvo use), to the blanked off wires from the sender off
the engine that are behind the dash you can achieve your temperature reading.

Likewise with the oil pressure/switch on the engine, there are three wires.
Two are connected to the oil pressure light, the third is blanked off. Get a
VDO gauge and connect to the third wire behind the dash and bingo, we have an
oil pressure reading.

I do have the wiring diagram if anyone wants it.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn Tradewinds III SM171

--- In _amelyachtowners@amelyachtowname_
(mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com) , "Alex Paquin" <alex.paquin@ale> wrote:

We have a Perkins 4154 engine on our 1981 Maramu. Ther seems to be two
temperature sensors at the top of the engine near the thermostat. One
is threaded right on the engine block. The second one in is on a T
connection right above it (hoses going to the fresh water heater).
Does anyone know what the finction of these are? I guess the one on
the engine block goes to the temperature gauge on the engine panel in
the cockpit and the second one is the temperature alarm actuator? The
second on has a 1/2 diameter thread. Does any one know where I can buy
this part new?

Alex Paquin
Simpatico
Amel Maramu #94




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