Okay, you've peaked our interest. What were the winds and what was the
sail configuration?

Judy Rouse
S/V Security
Amel SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eric freedman"
<kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,
i just posted the barometer and knotmeter top speed
for our trip south this year . this was in open ocean no current.
fair winds,
eric
super maramu 376
kimberlite

Happy new year everyone,

My wife and I will be taking off cruising shortly and I will not be
able to see after this forum on Yahoo Groups. If anyone is interested
in taking over please send me an email.

Best regards,

Richard

Gary,

Happy New Year.

Where are you and the boat?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:09 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sea Water Manifold Measurement Questions



Happy New Year Everyone.

Does anyboy know the inside hose diameter (ID) or the standpipe
(outside diameter) of each of the outlets from the sea water
manifold that supplies sea water to the AC pump, the toilets,
the anchor washdown pump etc. on the Amel Super
Maramu 2000? As I recall there are 5 outlets of various sizes.

If anybody is aboard at the moment and could advise of the
diffent hose sizes or measure the outlet pipes (OD), I would
appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks for all the useful information everyone has
provided over the years,

Again, Happy New Year.

Gary Silver Amel SM 2000 Hull #335

Happy New Year Everyone.

Does anyboy know the inside hose diameter (ID) or the standpipe
(outside diameter) of each of the outlets from the sea water
manifold that supplies sea water to the AC pump, the toilets,
the anchor washdown pump etc. on the Amel Super
Maramu 2000? As I recall there are 5 outlets of various sizes.

If anybody is aboard at the moment and could advise of the
diffent hose sizes or measure the outlet pipes (OD), I would
appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks for all the useful information everyone has
provided over the years,

Again, Happy New Year.

Gary Silver Amel SM 2000 Hull #335

Forgot,

it is labeled aaaa top speed



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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:42 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] my top speed for Kimberlite



Hi,
i just posted the barometer and knotmeter top speed
for our trip south this year . this was in open ocean no current.
fair winds,
eric
super maramu 376
kimberlite

Hi,
i just posted the barometer and knotmeter top speed
for our trip south this year . this was in open ocean no current.
fair winds,
eric
super maramu 376
kimberlite

Cheers for the gin. I have new end caps (from Amel),
however I did not receive the membranes yet and I am
away from the boat. The job will be done in January
and I will report the resulting TDS.
Happy new year to you and the group, Michael, Yonita




--- Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com> ,
wrote:

Thanks , Michael. Did you change the endcaps and
bobbin at the same time and
if so did you get them from Caroline Oldham or Amel?
By the way, I have found the solution to shot
membranes. Mine were putting
out 2240TDS before I shut them down. But get
this....neat Gin comes in at
2.5 TDS. So I figured that with a couple of crates
of Gordons in the bilges
I could mix the lot and meet FDA regs ( 500TDS max).
Imagine, showering and
cocktails at the same time!
Happy New Year everyone, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen,
Ushuaia.

From: michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: D60 membranes
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:04:28 -0800 (PST)

Hi Jan & Judy,
I ordered the membranes from Air Ice & Water, the
reference is SW30-2521 and they cost $158 each.

Prior

to ordering, I consulted with Caroline at Advance
Yachts who represent Dessalator in the UK. Her

contact

is: caroline.oldham@advanceyacht.co.uk

Wishing you tasty waters, Michael, Yonita



--- Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Michael, I now need to replace my D60

membranes.

What was the reference
for your replacements? Did you get them from

AirIce

and waht did they charge
for two?
Fair winds, Ian Jenkins, Pen Azen, Ushuaia

From: michael grunstein

<mgrunstein2002@yahoo.com>

Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:06:20 -0800 (PST)

Thanks Judy, I found the membranes to fit the

D60

and

I have thaken the assembly apart before. So

thanks

again for taking the time to respond, Michael



--- Judy <sailingjudy@gmail.com> wrote:

I believe the D60 is different from our

model.

Our

model is the
Dessalator 160 which is the 240 volt 50 hz,

160

liter/hour watermaker.

The membranes we purchased from Air Water

and

Ice

are SW30-2540.
These are 2.5" x 40"

Before you do anything study the photo

section

on

this website for
the watermaker and membrane tubes and some

very

detailed instructions
in a posting both done by Gary Silver, a SM2

owner.

I believe you can measure your membrane

tubes to

determine if they
are about 2.75" outside diameter (2.5'

inside

diameter) and about 40"
long between the end caps.

We recommend ordering a complete set of O

rings

for

the end caps and
for the high pressure fittings (3 ---1 an
interconnect bobbin between
the two tubes and two raw water inlet

fittings)

from

Amel or
Dessalator before you start the job...also

you

will

find postings on
this website for O ring sizes if you want to

buy

generic O rings.

We not only needed a few O rings, but also

had

to

replace 2 end caps
(the seats in the end caps for the

interconnect

bobbin were in bad
shape from high pressure leakage)...we

elected

to

replace all 4 end
caps.

Bill & Judy Rouse
S/V Security
SM2 #387


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com,

michael

grunstein
<mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:

Judy, I am in touch with Air, Water & Ice

re

the

membranes and they are telling me that you

bought

the

SW3-2540 membranes. Can you please confirm

to

me

that

your watermaker actually is the Dessalator

D60.

Thanks, Michael SM #345

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Hi John and Anne, Just got our Sheerwater 280. NZ to Falmouth by sea and Miami to Montevideo air freight---and worth every penny.We can launch it by hand form the aft deck and retrieval is a cinch compared to our bullet proof but HEAVY Carib. It goes beautifully with our 2hp Yamaha and out of sight with our 15hp Now doing sterling service in the Beagle Channel.Thanks for the tip. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen

From: "John and Anne on Bali Hai" <hollamby@compuserve.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lightweight RIB
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:44:07 -0000

Hello Ian and Judy,
Sorry for my delay in replying but I have been away.
My dinghy is a Southern Pacific Shearwater 310 and it is great. It is
now five years old and looks like new despite the fact that it has
been exposed all that time to the strong Meditteranean sun.Another
plus point is that it has three airchambers which our previous AB did
not and it is therefore much less dangerous when, as happened to us in
the Tuamotus, a shark took a bite out of the fabric the size of my hand.
It is fitted with a Mercury 15hp motor with small hydrofoils on the
skeg and will do 24 knots with only my 100 kgs on board in flat water.
It also finally got up on the plane with three heavy adults and a lot
of shopping in choppy water.
It cost much less than any European RIBs when we bought it and if the
price has not gone up I would expect it to be competitive in price
even including air freight. The lightweight is great for lifting it
out onto deck. We will post a pic of it (in the SM319 album)deflated
on the aft cabin top,later today.
Their website is www.southernpacific.co.nz and their ph/fax no is or
was +64-9-4788075
On short passages with good forecasts it is carried on the Amel davits
which can be seen in the pic of my liferaft carrier in the Bali Hai
album. It is essential to lash it down firmly so that it is not thrown
around in a seaway. On very short passages we sometimes hoist the
dinghy and engine on the davits by using the passurelle halyard
clipped on to the davit at the engine end.On longer passages it is
carried inflated but inverted on top of the aft cabin because I am
mindful of the fact that no long time survival in a liferaft has been
recorded without a dinghy being used at the same time for stores etc.
I also recall the experience of an American family whose yacht was run
down at night in bad weather by a ship. The boy went down with the
boat but the couple and the young daughter found themselves in the sea
with their AB dinghy which popped up to the surface as the yacht
disintegrated.
Sadly the father and daughter perished but the mother survived after
the dinghy was blown ashore in NZ. It seems that the father went into
the water to save the daughter and then was unable to get back into
the dinghy. For this reason it is suggested that it is essential to
have a rope tied to the handles either side of the hull with one or
two knots in the scope so that a person in the water has something to
pull themself into the boat.
The ship was traced in Taiwan and in the subsequent case the widow
accepted undisclosed damages in an agreed settlement. It seems that
she was on watch alone when they were run down and she claimed that it
was her practice to go around the deck every 15 minutes to make sure
all was well! We were within 30 miles of them at the time and with
very strong winds and waves there is no way I would even think about
getting out of the cockpit. The other stupid thing that came up was
that they only used their radar when within 12 miles of the coast.
One of the perils of GPS is that people set a course on their
autopilot connecting two set points which are probably being used by
every other vessel thus ensuring maximum exposure to being rundown.

Sorry not to have replied earlier, Anne and John,SM319









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Thanks , Michael. Did you change the endcaps and bobbin at the same time and if so did you get them from Caroline Oldham or Amel?
By the way, I have found the solution to shot membranes. Mine were putting out 2240TDS before I shut them down. But get this....neat Gin comes in at 2.5 TDS. So I figured that with a couple of crates of Gordons in the bilges I could mix the lot and meet FDA regs ( 500TDS max). Imagine, showering and cocktails at the same time!
Happy New Year everyone, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, Ushuaia.

From: michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: D60 membranes
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:04:28 -0800 (PST)

Hi Jan & Judy,
I ordered the membranes from Air Ice & Water, the
reference is SW30-2521 and they cost $158 each. Prior
to ordering, I consulted with Caroline at Advance
Yachts who represent Dessalator in the UK. Her contact
is: caroline.oldham@advanceyacht.co.uk

Wishing you tasty waters, Michael, Yonita



--- Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Michael, I now need to replace my D60 membranes.
What was the reference
for your replacements? Did you get them from AirIce
and waht did they charge
for two?
Fair winds, Ian Jenkins, Pen Azen, Ushuaia

From: michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:06:20 -0800 (PST)

Thanks Judy, I found the membranes to fit the D60

and

I have thaken the assembly apart before. So thanks
again for taking the time to respond, Michael



--- Judy <sailingjudy@gmail.com> wrote:

I believe the D60 is different from our model.

Our

model is the
Dessalator 160 which is the 240 volt 50 hz, 160
liter/hour watermaker.

The membranes we purchased from Air Water and

Ice

are SW30-2540.
These are 2.5" x 40"

Before you do anything study the photo section

on

this website for
the watermaker and membrane tubes and some very
detailed instructions
in a posting both done by Gary Silver, a SM2

owner.

I believe you can measure your membrane tubes to
determine if they
are about 2.75" outside diameter (2.5' inside
diameter) and about 40"
long between the end caps.

We recommend ordering a complete set of O rings

for

the end caps and
for the high pressure fittings (3 ---1 an
interconnect bobbin between
the two tubes and two raw water inlet fittings)

from

Amel or
Dessalator before you start the job...also you

will

find postings on
this website for O ring sizes if you want to buy
generic O rings.

We not only needed a few O rings, but also had

to

replace 2 end caps
(the seats in the end caps for the interconnect
bobbin were in bad
shape from high pressure leakage)...we elected

to

replace all 4 end
caps.

Bill & Judy Rouse
S/V Security
SM2 #387


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, michael
grunstein
<mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:

Judy, I am in touch with Air, Water & Ice re

the

membranes and they are telling me that you

bought

the

SW3-2540 membranes. Can you please confirm to

me

that

your watermaker actually is the Dessalator

D60.

Thanks, Michael SM #345

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Hi Jan & Judy,
I ordered the membranes from Air Ice & Water, the
reference is SW30-2521 and they cost $158 each. Prior
to ordering, I consulted with Caroline at Advance
Yachts who represent Dessalator in the UK. Her contact
is: caroline.oldham@advanceyacht.co.uk

Wishing you tasty waters, Michael, Yonita



--- Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Michael, I now need to replace my D60 membranes.
What was the reference
for your replacements? Did you get them from AirIce
and waht did they charge
for two?
Fair winds, Ian Jenkins, Pen Azen, Ushuaia

From: michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:06:20 -0800 (PST)

Thanks Judy, I found the membranes to fit the D60

and

I have thaken the assembly apart before. So thanks
again for taking the time to respond, Michael



--- Judy <sailingjudy@gmail.com> wrote:

I believe the D60 is different from our model.

Our

model is the
Dessalator 160 which is the 240 volt 50 hz, 160
liter/hour watermaker.

The membranes we purchased from Air Water and

Ice

are SW30-2540.
These are 2.5" x 40"

Before you do anything study the photo section

on

this website for
the watermaker and membrane tubes and some very
detailed instructions
in a posting both done by Gary Silver, a SM2

owner.

I believe you can measure your membrane tubes to
determine if they
are about 2.75" outside diameter (2.5' inside
diameter) and about 40"
long between the end caps.

We recommend ordering a complete set of O rings

for

the end caps and
for the high pressure fittings (3 ---1 an
interconnect bobbin between
the two tubes and two raw water inlet fittings)

from

Amel or
Dessalator before you start the job...also you

will

find postings on
this website for O ring sizes if you want to buy
generic O rings.

We not only needed a few O rings, but also had

to

replace 2 end caps
(the seats in the end caps for the interconnect
bobbin were in bad
shape from high pressure leakage)...we elected

to

replace all 4 end
caps.

Bill & Judy Rouse
S/V Security
SM2 #387


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, michael
grunstein
<mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:

Judy, I am in touch with Air, Water & Ice re

the

membranes and they are telling me that you

bought

the

SW3-2540 membranes. Can you please confirm to

me

that

your watermaker actually is the Dessalator

D60.

Thanks, Michael SM #345

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We made the mistake using the microwave with 60hz...it will work, but
it will shorten the life of the microwave. The breaker would trip
whenever we attempted to use the microwave longer than about 5
minutes. The turntable in our microwave stopped working after using it
with 60hz for a very short time. The dishwasher and clothes washing
machine also should not be operated on 60hz. The A/C has not problems
with 60hz or 50hz.

Judy Rouse
S/V Security
Amel SM2 #387


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "pjppappas" <pjppappas@...>
wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a problem using 60 cycle current with

the

dishwasher and microwave. Apparantly, there is not a problem with the
airconditioner. Happy New Year Peter Pappas 'CALLISTO' SM#369 La Paz
Mexico.

Hi Peter,
The microwave can be used with 60 Hz, but I am told that excessive use is bad for the microwave generator. The convection function, however, is not compatible. The dishwasher, like the clothes washer, is definitely not compatible with 60 Hz current.
Happy New Year to all!!
Bill Nation Sogno di Mare SM2K #404 on the hard, Deltaville, VA USA

Hi Michael, I now need to replace my D60 membranes. What was the reference for your replacements? Did you get them from AirIce and waht did they charge for two?
Fair winds, Ian Jenkins, Pen Azen, Ushuaia

From: michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:06:20 -0800 (PST)

Thanks Judy, I found the membranes to fit the D60 and
I have thaken the assembly apart before. So thanks
again for taking the time to respond, Michael



--- Judy <sailingjudy@gmail.com> wrote:

I believe the D60 is different from our model. Our
model is the
Dessalator 160 which is the 240 volt 50 hz, 160
liter/hour watermaker.

The membranes we purchased from Air Water and Ice
are SW30-2540.
These are 2.5" x 40"

Before you do anything study the photo section on
this website for
the watermaker and membrane tubes and some very
detailed instructions
in a posting both done by Gary Silver, a SM2 owner.

I believe you can measure your membrane tubes to
determine if they
are about 2.75" outside diameter (2.5' inside
diameter) and about 40"
long between the end caps.

We recommend ordering a complete set of O rings for
the end caps and
for the high pressure fittings (3 ---1 an
interconnect bobbin between
the two tubes and two raw water inlet fittings) from
Amel or
Dessalator before you start the job...also you will
find postings on
this website for O ring sizes if you want to buy
generic O rings.

We not only needed a few O rings, but also had to
replace 2 end caps
(the seats in the end caps for the interconnect
bobbin were in bad
shape from high pressure leakage)...we elected to
replace all 4 end
caps.

Bill & Judy Rouse
S/V Security
SM2 #387


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, michael
grunstein
<mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:

Judy, I am in touch with Air, Water & Ice re the
membranes and they are telling me that you bought

the

SW3-2540 membranes. Can you please confirm to me

that

your watermaker actually is the Dessalator D60.
Thanks, Michael SM #345

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Does anyone know if there is a problem using 60 cycle current with the
dishwasher and microwave. Apparantly, there is not a problem with the
airconditioner. Happy New Year Peter Pappas 'CALLISTO' SM#369 La Paz
Mexico.

Dear Gary and others!
Thanks for all the interesting comments. I seem to have opened a can of worms!
My SM2000 "Asolare" has a 60 l/m Duo fitted and I thought that as long as the indicator showed "safe Water" all the flow into the tank was OK. Do I assume that this testing devise does not work in this way?
I have ordered (now under review) the Duo 100l/h unit for my Amel 54, as the larger unit also offered can not be used on 24 Volts.
I have four large solar panels and with a shaft generator normally have fully charged batteries when underway. When I have to motor sail I use the watermaker on 24 Volts to effectivelly use the high output of the 175 amp alternator on the engine. I know that nothing is for free - but it feels like that!!!
Thanks so much for you very helpful comments.
Peter


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Hi John,
Thanks for email.
The gang planck has clearly been a problem for Amel but the latest version appears to be excellent as the two piece unit retracts as the hand hold folds neatly into a storage slot and the assembly then rotates into its "letterbox".
Kind regards,
Peter


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I had this problem for a long time, namely access to messages but not
to photos or other members-only selections. It was resolved when I
discovered that I had somehow over the years set up two yahoo logins.
I was registered for our group under one login but was logging in
with the other one. Since I sorted that out, I've enjoyed accessing
the photos.

Regards Roger, Zorba, Mango 28

I am unable to access photos and related membership files, even though I am signed in with my Yahoo ID and password. I do have access to posted messages on the web page, though. My Yahoo ID is sundanceharleyrider. Please include me in the AMEL Users Group. I am in the email groups as I have received these emails since December 2005. If I need to do anything on my end, please let me know.

Thank you for your time.

Murray Seidel, SM 349
Wilmington, NC

Gary,

About half of the time we run our Clima units on 50hz and the other
half at 60hz. The authorized Climma agent in Trinidad said that there
would be no problem...there has not been.

Merry Christmas from Christmas Cove, St. James, USVI
Bill & Judy Rouse
SM2 #387

Gary,

I run my a/c units all summer on 6o cycles and most of the winter in St
martin also on 60 cycles -so far no problems.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 2:30 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Air Conditioner Operation on 50/60 Hertz
Power



Hello all members with Climma AC on their boats:

I am installing a new 4th Climma Compact 10EH air conditioner to
help cool the saloon/galley area of my Super Maramu. The dealer
in Annapolis who helped me import the 230 volt 50 hertz unit to
Antigua has forwarned me that the unit is for 50 hertz use only. Yet I
have run my other three Compact Climma ACs for the past 5 years
on both 50 and 60 hertz power without apparent ill effect (just a
Joel indicated that we could). Has anyone experienced ill effects
from running their Climma AC units on 60 hertz power? Just
interested in other members experience.

Merry Christmas, Gary Silver