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Black panels between cabin windows
John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
Hi Gary,
Anne tackled this problem last summer. The really hard bit was removing the adhesive. The film goes under the stainless trim and some could be pulled out and the rest was cut flush. I suppose there is a solvent which would remove the adhesive easily but it is not acetone or white spirit. Chewing gum remover was a help but only comes in tiny tubes, the best stuff we had to hand was an Australian or NZ product called Disolvit and perhaps Swarfega, the hand cleaner. Perhaps Joel knows what Amel used to get rid of it? It took many hours hard work to clean off. Care was taken to reduce the risk of disolving the sealant holding the windows water tight She used a push scraper with a razor blade but I suspect a pull scraper such as a Scarsten would have been better as the push one tended to dig into the gelcoat. Anne used a brush to apply black enamel paint having found that Hammerite left brush marks. Merry Christmas to all, Anne and John, SM 319
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Climma Air Conditioner Operation on 50/60 Hertz Power
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Hello all members with Climma AC on their boats:
I am installing a new 4th Climma Compact 10EH air conditioner to help cool the saloon/galley area of my Super Maramu. The dealer in Annapolis who helped me import the 230 volt 50 hertz unit to Antigua has forwarned me that the unit is for 50 hertz use only. Yet I have run my other three Compact Climma ACs for the past 5 years on both 50 and 60 hertz power without apparent ill effect (just a Joel indicated that we could). Has anyone experienced ill effects from running their Climma AC units on 60 hertz power? Just interested in other members experience. Merry Christmas, Gary Silver
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Delamination of Black Trim Panels Between Cabin Wind...
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Charlie:
Thanks for the painting suggestion. I will pursue that option. I saw a new 54 the other day and from a distance it seemed that the black panels were still covered with the same material. Olivier Beaute responded and indicated that the laminate is the same plastic film that is used for the Amel standard boat name on the transom. Regards, Gary
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels
michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
Thanks Judy, I found the membranes to fit the D60 and
I have thaken the assembly apart before. So thanks again for taking the time to respond, Michael --- Judy <sailingjudy@gmail.com> wrote:
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels
I believe the D60 is different from our model. Our model is the
Dessalator 160 which is the 240 volt 50 hz, 160 liter/hour watermaker. The membranes we purchased from Air Water and Ice are SW30-2540. These are 2.5" x 40" Before you do anything study the photo section on this website for the watermaker and membrane tubes and some very detailed instructions in a posting both done by Gary Silver, a SM2 owner. I believe you can measure your membrane tubes to determine if they are about 2.75" outside diameter (2.5' inside diameter) and about 40" long between the end caps. We recommend ordering a complete set of O rings for the end caps and for the high pressure fittings (3 ---1 an interconnect bobbin between the two tubes and two raw water inlet fittings) from Amel or Dessalator before you start the job...also you will find postings on this website for O ring sizes if you want to buy generic O rings. We not only needed a few O rings, but also had to replace 2 end caps (the seats in the end caps for the interconnect bobbin were in bad shape from high pressure leakage)...we elected to replace all 4 end caps. Bill & Judy Rouse S/V Security SM2 #387 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Delamination of Black Trim Panels Between Cabin Wind...
svmalaika@...
Gary,
We had MALAIAKA II refit at AMEL's yard in Hyeres about a year ago. While there they fixed the delamination problem. They removed the laminate, carefully masked the area and painted it with a two part black paint. The masking took about 4 hours and the painting about 5 minutes! It looks great and has held up fine so far. I'm not sure exactly what paint they used, but I'm sure AMEL will advise if you ask. Fair winds, Charlie Cronheim S/V MALAIKA II, SM 336
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Delamination of Black Trim Panels Between Cabin Wind...
svmalaika@...
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Delamination of Black Trim Panels Between Cabin Wind...
svmalaika@...
Gary,
We had MALAIKA II refit at AMEL's yard in Hyeres about a year ago. The delamination problem was fixed at that time. They removed the laminate, carefully taped and masked the area and spray painted with a two part black paint.
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Delamination of Black Trim Panels Between Cabin Windows
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Hellow everyone:
My boat is now 5 years old and much of that time has been in the Caribbean. The black panels that are interspersed between the cabin windows are made of some type of plastic film laminated to a plastic or fiber substrate, and the black film is shrinking and delaminating (presumable from UV and heat exposure). I suspect that this is a common problem as I have seen similar appearances on other Amels. Has anyone undertaken a repair for this cosmetic problem? Would stripping the plastic film and painting with some type of polyurethane paint work? I have toyed with with the idea of actually removing the panels and re-bedding new black colored plexiglass panels (obviously a much bigger project). Your experiences would be welcome. Gary Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM 2000 , lying Jolly Harbor, Antigua
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TDS levels
michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
Judy, I am in touch with Air, Water & Ice re the
membranes and they are telling me that you bought the SW3-2540 membranes. Can you please confirm to me that your watermaker actually is the Dessalator D60. Thanks, Michael SM #345 --- Judy <sailingjudy@gmail.com> wrote: We bought the Film-Tec membranes from Air, Water & __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Refinishing
koutsoukos Nikos
Hi john
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I believe you ll do a fine job. Just remember to let the paint cure and ventilate the tank until resin odour disappears.In case after all your water smells I ll give you another recipe. brgds Nick
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From: anniemno1 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Refinishing Captain Nick, Thanks for the very helpful reference. The other issue is surface preparation. Was advised by a marine surveyor in Houston (Mike Firestone) to water blast the tank with a media such as walnut shells prior to application of the resin. Will advise all of success of process. John --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "koutsoukos Nikos" <koutsoukosnikos@...> wrote: > > Hallo I am Nick and owner of a kirk i am master mariner and sailing atanker at the moment in north sea ,I suggest what we use in the ships ,a heavy duty one as follows. > A good coating of a well known company is INTERNATIONAL : INTERLINE 850 (WHITE OR BUFF) PRODUCT CODE:TLA 850/A > Surface preperation :sand paper or grinding ,cleaning. > Dry film thikness (dft 125 microns about two coatings with roller),touch dry at 25deg C 5 hrs ,overcoating at same temp. min 8hrs max 30 days > Thinner GTA 420. > To avoid unpleasent odors in the water later let it dy well. > > rgds > cpt.Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: anniemno1 > To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:33 AM > Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Refinishing > > > We discovered that the fresh water tank coating is flaking on our > Mango. Has anyone refinished their fresh water tanks? > > What was the process and where did you find the FDA approved resin? > > Regards, > > Annie and John on Annie M. (Mango #1) > > > > > > >
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RE : [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Water Tank Refinishing
Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
Hola John & Annie,
Dominique's Phone in Martinique is (0) 696 863 680 Tthe area code is 596 and from Canada I also dial 001 so: 001 596 696 863 680 By the way, how will you access the whole inside of the tank? I have heard of fuel thank refinishing with a vacuum technique and an injected resin but water tank? Regards Serge anniemno1 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> a écrit : Serge, Thanks for the info. Would appreciate Dominique's recommendation on resin. Fair Winds, John and Annie Annie M (Mango #1) --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "laetitiaii" <laetitiaii@...> wrote: resin? otherA few years ago while in Martinique, I had my fuel tank ( on my boat) redone by a worker who was using as finishing coat, a whitecured), which he stated was also used to refinish repaired water tanks intel no. Serge D. Tremblay À bord d'OPÉRA Lettres d'appel radioamateur: VE0ACI (contact radio: le réseau du capitaine, 14118 Mhz à 07:00 du matin, heure de Montréal, responsable M. André Fleury (450) 653 6021) Tél: Espagne: 34 606264003 Martinique:(596) (0)696398472 Montréal: (514) 871 0064 Courriel: laetitiaii@yahoo.ca et (pour tout BREF courriel à recevoir en mer par ondes courtes: faire l'envoi en mode texte brut, sans pièce jointe, ni image, ni photo à ve0aci@winlink.org Notez bien: v e zéro a c i ...) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? En finir avec le spam? Yahoo! Courriel vous offre la meilleure protection possible contre les messages non nollicités http://mail.yahoo.ca Yahoo! Courriel
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(No subject)
BeyersWF
Miles,
I had an inverter and 110 VAC circuits added to my '82 Mango. Running the 110 VAC things was beating up the batteries badly. Constantly adding water and eventually failing batteries. So I had the 220 VAC split, like in your home, and powered the 110 VAC circuites off the 220 VAC 60 cycle shore power. Took a new, slick and expensive VAC panel but worth it. When away from the dock, I use the inverter and batteries. The 220 VAC appliances I inherited with the boat work fine on 220 VAC 60 cycle but run at 17% faster than on 50 cycle [vaccume cleaner, coffee maker, etc.] so they heat up faster and higher. So far no problem. Yes, as long as your computer and printer have a CE cetificate on the product they run fine on either 110 VAC 60 cycle or 220 VAC 60 cycle without problems, you do need an adapter which does not have a common ground circuit. That does make me nervious. I never leave those on overnight, just in case. Crash "Windrush," Mango No.29
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Refinishing
anniemno1 <no_reply@...>
Captain Nick,
Thanks for the very helpful reference. The other issue is surface preparation. Was advised by a marine surveyor in Houston (Mike Firestone) to water blast the tank with a media such as walnut shells prior to application of the resin. Will advise all of success of process. John --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "koutsoukos Nikos" <koutsoukosnikos@...> wrote: sailing atanker at the moment in north sea ,I suggest what we use in the ships ,a heavy duty one as follows. A good coating of a well known company is INTERNATIONAL :INTERLINE 850 (WHITE OR BUFF) PRODUCT CODE:TLA 850/A Surface preperation :sand paper or grinding ,cleaning.roller),touch dry at 25deg C 5 hrs ,overcoating at same temp. min 8hrs max 30 days Thinner GTA 420.resin?
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Re: Water Tank Refinishing
anniemno1 <no_reply@...>
Serge,
Thanks for the info. Would appreciate Dominique's recommendation on resin. Fair Winds, John and Annie Annie M (Mango #1) --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "laetitiaii" <laetitiaii@...> wrote: resin? otherA few years ago while in Martinique, I had my fuel tank ( on my boat) redone by a worker who was using as finishing coat, a whitecured), which he stated was also used to refinish repaired water tanks intel no.
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Re: 24 volt to 110 Inverter
Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
I have found that almost all electronic devices now days can be charged with
either 60 cycle 115 or 50 cycle 220. All you need is some plug adaptors. Also, all laptops that I am familiar with can be charged from a 12 volt DC source using a cigarette lighter adopter. Miles Bidwell SM219
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Changing Water Heater Zinc & Vacuum Bags
john martin <symoondog@...>
Regarding Peter Pappas' saga of changing the zinc in the water heater (taking 4 hours). I did it a little differently. Cut off water and power, took off all eight bolts on the bottom. Water went into the bilge. Took off 2 straps holding the tank, picked up the tank to top of engine room while helper pulled out heating elements. Helper puts on the new zinc. I clean out the tank on dock, getting 1/2 lb of rust out. Take tank back aboard, lower into engine room, re-install the heating units and put on bolts and straps. Total time 1 hour. I left the hoses and wire all connected.
If anyone needs more space in your lockers you can try vacuum packing clothes and even sails using your vacuum cleaner). It is amazing how much space is saved. You can buy most of the bag sizes at Target but can also order the jumbo bags on the web (Space Bags). I put my mizzen ballooner (still in its bag) in the jumbo size and squeezed the 2' x 3' bag down to 5 inches thickness. For the main ballooner I took it out of the bag, folded it up and then vacuum bagged it to a thickness of about 8 inches. It can be done so easily you can do it after every use. I also vacuum packed 3 dufflebags into a very small bundle. _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 24 volt to 110 Inverter
john martin <symoondog@...>
I put a 24 volt to 100 V under the cabinets over the crew bunk (by the engine room). Ran the wire up through the cabinet down thru the small hanging locker out into the battery box. No problem. Can't hardly see it. Only turn it on when you need it. 1000 Watts. Pure Sine Wave is brand name.
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Re: Shore power connection - Plug replacement
Jochen,
From personal experience, I'd strongly recommend you bite the bullet and replace the whole thing. With the amount of corrosion in the photograph, your on-board connector has got to be corroded, too, and you've probably got a serious fire hazard. If you replace everything, you'll undoubtedly get an escutcheon plate with the new fitting, so the new paint job will not be affected. Good luck, Craig Briggs, Santorin #68
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Fulring Boom for a Maramu
David Wallace
We are interested in installing a furling boom on our 1982 Maramu, which was built before Amel went to in-mast furling. We are tending toward the ProFurl Boom Furler at this point. Has any one in the group installed a furling boom on an Amel, or know of someone who has and can provide comment? I would be very ineterested to know if doing this is considered feasible, and if there are any particular issues to be aware of.
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