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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge - Ground Strap

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Bill, Eric and anybody else on the forum with electrical insights:

This is all great info as no doubt we will all need to do this service
sooner or later. However, what are your thoughts, or has Olivier
indicated to you, why all the bonding wires terminate in this fashion
in the bilge.
1. Is it because the keel is a route to sea water, (or is
it really a route for electrical current to sea water if it is properly
primed and painted??),

OR

2. Is it just to bond the keel to all other bonded items and serves
as a common termination point. My understanding is that the
purpose of a bonding wire is to keep every metal part at equal
potential to prevent galvanic corrosion due to stray current,
is that correct?

Standing by for further enlightenment.

Gary

s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335


Re: Racor filter

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

I agree. My only solution is that I reserve the outboard filter for
emergency use only...if anyone can figure out something better, I am
all ears.

Bill Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite@... wrote:

hi,
i have a
yanmar engine with a dual racor filter. the outboard filter is very
difficult and messy to drain.
does anyone have a easy solution to this problem.

also how do you clean under the engine?
fair winds,
eric
sm376 kimberlite


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge - Ground Strap

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

The nut is 30mm.

- I used 3 12" extensions to be able to reach the nut with a socket
and ratchet. When the nut was loosened it fell clear of the socket.

- I used a "push button flexible-shaft pick-up tool" to get the nut
out of the bilge.

- I replaced the copper strap with a 1/8" x 2" piece of copper and
bent it according to the photos in the folder "Bilge Ground Strap" in
photo section of this website.

- To replace the nut, I wrapped the nut with 1 layer of masking tape
so that it stuck to the inside of the socket. Incidentally, when I
removed the nut I noticed that Amel had used plastic tape it to hold
it in a socket when the boat was built...I pulled the plastic tape in
the shape of the nut from the bilge.

- I cut off the copper ground strap from the ground wires and cut each
wire back about 2"...then I crimped terminals on the ends of freshly
stripped wires.

- I temporarily used 2 stainless bolts to attached the terminals to
holes drilled through the copper.

- As soon as I can find brass bolts and nuts, I will replace the
stainless bplts/nuts with brass.

BTW, according to Oliver Beaute, the stud and corresponding nut that
the ground strap is connected to does NOT support the cast iron keel.

I hope all of this helps.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
Cartagena Colombia


hi,
i have a couple of questions about removing the nut. i believe i
have a 30 mm socket on board as it is the same one i use for the
prop puller.

how did you get the nut out of the bilge? how did you get the
nut back on the bolt..

incidentally, i found an brush with a pole that extends to about
5 feet with a round brush at the end.
i believe it is used to remove cobwebs from ceilings. it is
fantastic to scrub the walls of the bilge sump.
Fair winds,
eric
sm 376 kimberlite


Racor filter

eric freedman
 

hi,
i have a
yanmar engine with a dual racor filter. the outboard filter is very difficult and messy to drain.
does anyone have a easy solution to this problem.

also how do you clean under the engine?
fair winds,
eric
sm376 kimberlite


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge - Ground Strap

eric freedman
 

i forgot to mention it came from home depot , but i am sure some form of it is available worldwide.
eric

----- Original Message -----
From: kimberlite@optonline.net
Date: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge - Ground Strap
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

hi,
i have a couple of questions about removing the nut. i believe i
have a 30 mm socket on board as it is the same one i use for the
prop puller.

how did you get the nut out of the bilge? how did you get the
nut back on the bolt..

incidentally, i found an brush with a pole that extends to about
5 feet with a round brush at the end.
i believe it is used to remove cobwebs from ceilings. it is
fantastic to scrub the walls of the bilge sump.
Fair winds,
eric
sm 376 kimberlit
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy
Date: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:37 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge - Ground Strap
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Greetings from BeBe,

While cleaning the bilge sump today I noticed that the Ground Strap
was broken just above the keel bolt/nut. I uploaded a photo in
a new
album titled "Bilge - Ground Strap".

Has anyone experienced this issue and repaired it?

It appears that I will need a 1/2" drive socket of unknown
size
and an
extension of about 55" or 140cm to be able to unscrew the keel
bolt nut.

I am curious if a copper strap should be fabricated or if
heavy wire
would be adequate?

Any input recommendations would be helpful.

By the way, I clean the bilge sump about every 3 - 4 months.
The last
time I cleaned it was during a haul-out in June 2007. The ground
strap appeared to be fine in June. I am not sure when it
failed, but
I have noticed what appears to be erosion of the SSB ground
plates.
Any suggestions or input on this subject would also be appreciated.

Regards to all,

Bill Rouse, sailing with Captain Judy
S/V BeBe - SM2 #387
anchored Cartagena Colombia





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge - Ground Strap

eric freedman
 

hi,
i have a couple of questions about removing the nut. i believe i have a 30 mm socket on board as it is the same one i use for the prop puller.

how did you get the nut out of the bilge? how did you get the nut back on the bolt..

incidentally, i found an brush with a pole that extends to about 5 feet with a round brush at the end.
i believe it is used to remove cobwebs from ceilings. it is fantastic to scrub the walls of the bilge sump.
Fair winds,
eric
sm 376 kimberlit

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy
Date: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:37 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge - Ground Strap
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Greetings from BeBe,

While cleaning the bilge sump today I noticed that the Ground Strap
was broken just above the keel bolt/nut. I uploaded a photo in
a new
album titled "Bilge - Ground Strap".

Has anyone experienced this issue and repaired it?

It appears that I will need a 1/2" drive socket of unknown size
and an
extension of about 55" or 140cm to be able to unscrew the keel
bolt nut.

I am curious if a copper strap should be fabricated or if heavy wire
would be adequate?

Any input recommendations would be helpful.

By the way, I clean the bilge sump about every 3 - 4 months.
The last
time I cleaned it was during a haul-out in June 2007. The ground
strap appeared to be fine in June. I am not sure when it
failed, but
I have noticed what appears to be erosion of the SSB ground
plates.
Any suggestions or input on this subject would also be appreciated.

Regards to all,

Bill Rouse, sailing with Captain Judy
S/V BeBe - SM2 #387
anchored Cartagena Colombia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement

eric freedman
 

gary,
i have 2200 hours on mine and the prop seems fine , the blades are tight and rotate in a linear plane.
i lubricate the ell out of the prop every year.
eric
sm 376 Kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Shepherd
Date: Monday, October 15, 2007 12:48 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Ian


-------Original Message-------

From: amelliahona
Date: 29/09/2007 03:34:59
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement

JP:

I don't recall this being discussed on the forum before.

I purchased the overhaul kit that includes the bearings, seals
and
the special wrench from AB Marine last year. It does not include
the small lubricating hole plug screws or their o-rings. The
cost
for that kit, the wrench, a half dozen screws and o-rings was
$507 USD. (A bit on the expensive side I thought.)

I haven't done the job yet so I can't comment how hard it is or
the
before and after results. I was planning on doing it just as routine
preventative maintenance as I hit the 600 hour mark.

Regards,

Gary Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335

with the intent of doing the overhau --- In
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com,
galacsea2000 wrote:

I may be asking questions that have already been addressed but the
search engine is not working. Has any one replaced the
bearings on the
SM2000 Autoprop? How difficult is it? Did you noticed a clear
improvement after (vibration, noise, performance..) ? How many hours
did you go before relacing the bearings?
Any help will be appreciated.
JP on GalacSea Hull #289







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement

Ian Shepherd
 

Ian

-------Original Message-------

From: amelliahona
Date: 29/09/2007 03:34:59
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement

JP:

I don't recall this being discussed on the forum before.

I purchased the overhaul kit that includes the bearings, seals and
the special wrench from AB Marine last year. It does not include
the small lubricating hole plug screws or their o-rings. The cost
for that kit, the wrench, a half dozen screws and o-rings was
$507 USD. (A bit on the expensive side I thought.)

I haven't done the job yet so I can't comment how hard it is or the
before and after results. I was planning on doing it just as routine
preventative maintenance as I hit the 600 hour mark.

Regards,

Gary Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335

with the intent of doing the overhau --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com,

galacsea2000 <no_reply@...> wrote:

I may be asking questions that have already been addressed but the
search engine is not working. Has any one replaced the bearings on the
SM2000 Autoprop? How difficult is it? Did you noticed a clear
improvement after (vibration, noise, performance..) ? How many hours
did you go before relacing the bearings?
Any help will be appreciated.
JP on GalacSea Hull #289


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bigger Bed

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Ed, We thought the fore and aft length of the SM too short and so when we bought our boat we asked Amel to fill in the gap between the double bunk to port and the single to starboard with a removable piece of wood. They did this and fitted a larger mattress to starboard so we just have two mattresses. We also have the vanity unit. This system works fine for us and all the time we are at anchor or in a marina we sleep with our heads to port, feet to starboard. This makes for a very spacious double bed and in hot climates you can really spread yourselves out.
http://www.newhotmail.co.uk

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Amel Maramu For Sale

billklein48 <sidecar1@...>
 

1981 Amel Maramu "Popeye" is for sale. She is mechanically very good
and fully equipped for cruising. She is located in the Hudson River 25
miles north of New York City. She is reasonably priced and if you would
like to get more details and photos; e-mail us at sidecar1@verizon.net.
The asking price is $149,000.


Super Maramu 2001 FOR SALE

John Blyth
 

Very reluctantly my wife and I have decided to put our yacht up for
sale. We had planned a circumnavigation this November but unforeseen
illness has scuppered our plans, and unfortunately I am forced to give
up sailing. She is a SM 2001, hull no 330 with a host of extras
including Yanmar, brand new Dessalator 160 litr /hr watermaker last
season, ICOM SSB and a magnificent Besenzoni hydraulic passarelle.She
is Euro tax paid. She has had very little use and is in pristine
condition, lying in the Med. Please contact via e mail for further
details.


Re: Bilge Ground Strap and Cartagena, Colombia

Judy Rouse
 

Eric,

Regarding the Ground Strap:
If a ground strap it is broken where mine was, you will need to get
all of the water out to see the break (I used a wet/dry vac to get the
last 2" out). For what ever reason the copper had become very thin
where it was normally in direct contact with the bilge water AND in my
opinion it was probably a little too thin in the first place. I
replaced it with 1/8" thick copper 2" wide. The nut on the keel bolt
is 30mm. I used 3 12" extensions to my 1/2" drive to remove it.
There is also a small "flat head" machine screw holding the strap
against the forward port side of the bilge sump. I opened the end of
the Ground Strap connected to the bundle of yellow/green ground wires
and found some corrosion with some of the wires. Today I am going to
crimp wire terminals to fresh ends of the approximately 12 wires and
bolt them to the copper with probably 2 stainless bolts/nuts. I will
upload some photos of the replacement part today.

Regarding Cartagena:
We walk the streets at night and feel very safe. The people are
friendly and the economy seems fine. There has not been any report of
problems or theft of any kind on the cruiser's net. It is a shame
that Cartagena has gotten the bad rap that some parts of Colombia
probably deserve. There are 2 marina possibilities. We are in Club
Nautico, but I would recommend Club de Pesca for a absent owner (both
have websites email is good from Nautico and poor from Pesca...need to
call Pesca). Club de Pesca is a private yacht club, but they have a
number of transient slips for non-Colombian flagged vessels. Also, I
can recommend a local guy to care/watch your boat...since I have been
here he has gotten some Amel experience. The water in the bay is
about as bad or worse than Simpson Bay Lagoon...we do not run the
water maker and have barnacles cleaned from the bottom every 2 - 4
weeks. There is a haul out facility in the area with a 40 ton travel
lift.

We have a Jackline insurance policy. We paid a surcharge of $200 for
the first 30 days and $100 for each additional month. The insurance
company requires advance notice of the dates we are in Colombia. We
are US flagged vessel.




--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite@... wrote:

Bill,
i am currently in Bogota . i do business here about every 6 weeks. i
was thinking of moving Kimberlite from St Martin to Cartagena this
winter. did you have trouble getting insurance for Colombia? are you a
US flagged vessel? is your marina safe eg theft. i am not worried
about banditas i travel in a armoured hummer with 4 guys with machine
guns into the jungle.

however i would leave kimberlite in colombia for 3 weeks at a time
unattended.
what are your thoughts on leaving the boat?


i noticed the ground strap but mine did not look like it was
attached to anything. i will take a look. there is a previous post
about someone having keel problems and someone showed up with some
special tools and a chipper to remove the epoxy from he nuts. i
believe he also mentioned the size of the socket needed.
faie winds,
eric


Cartagena-ground strap

eric freedman
 

Bill,
i am currently in Bogota . i do business here about every 6 weeks. i was thinking of moving Kimberlite from St Martin to Cartagena this winter. did you have trouble getting insurance for Colombia? are you a US flagged vessel? is your marina safe eg theft. i am not worried about banditas i travel in a armoured hummer with 4 guys with machine guns into the jungle.

however i would leave kimberlite in colombia for 3 weeks at a time unattended.
what are your thoughts on leaving the boat?


i noticed the ground strap but mine did not look like it was attached to anything. i will take a look. there is a previous post about someone having keel problems and someone showed up with some special tools and a chipper to remove the epoxy from he nuts. i believe he also mentioned the size of the socket needed.
faie winds,
eric

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy
Date: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:37 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge - Ground Strap
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Greetings from BeBe,

While cleaning the bilge sump today I noticed that the Ground Strap
was broken just above the keel bolt/nut. I uploaded a photo in
a new
album titled "Bilge - Ground Strap".

Has anyone experienced this issue and repaired it?

It appears that I will need a 1/2" drive socket of unknown size
and an
extension of about 55" or 140cm to be able to unscrew the keel
bolt nut.

I am curious if a copper strap should be fabricated or if heavy wire
would be adequate?

Any input recommendations would be helpful.

By the way, I clean the bilge sump about every 3 - 4 months.
The last
time I cleaned it was during a haul-out in June 2007. The ground
strap appeared to be fine in June. I am not sure when it
failed, but
I have noticed what appears to be erosion of the SSB ground
plates.
Any suggestions or input on this subject would also be appreciated.

Regards to all,

Bill Rouse, sailing with Captain Judy
S/V BeBe - SM2 #387
anchored Cartagena Colombia


Bilge - Ground Strap

Judy Rouse
 

Greetings from BeBe,

While cleaning the bilge sump today I noticed that the Ground Strap
was broken just above the keel bolt/nut. I uploaded a photo in a new
album titled "Bilge - Ground Strap".

Has anyone experienced this issue and repaired it?

It appears that I will need a 1/2" drive socket of unknown size and an
extension of about 55" or 140cm to be able to unscrew the keel bolt nut.

I am curious if a copper strap should be fabricated or if heavy wire
would be adequate?

Any input recommendations would be helpful.

By the way, I clean the bilge sump about every 3 - 4 months. The last
time I cleaned it was during a haul-out in June 2007. The ground
strap appeared to be fine in June. I am not sure when it failed, but
I have noticed what appears to be erosion of the SSB ground plates.
Any suggestions or input on this subject would also be appreciated.

Regards to all,

Bill Rouse, sailing with Captain Judy
S/V BeBe - SM2 #387
anchored Cartagena Colombia


Re: Eumenia mini 5500 - where are you?

Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

Euminia is alive and well. I just ordered a new washing machine. My Google
showed a number of sites. You may have to set your search to include French
language sites. Most of the main French Chandleries carry Euminia and ENO
is now selling them under the ENO brand for a hundred Euros more. One web
site is http://users.telenet.be/dany.de.jaegher1/EUMENIA.htm, but I bought
mine through a chandler.



I do not know about having one sent into Turkey, but once you are in the EU,
it should be easy to find one.



Regards,



Miles Bidwell (LADYBUG, SM 218)


Re: ATF fluid leak

Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

Hi DoodelBug,



I am not sure that this will help, but it might. Two years ago I thought
that I had a leak from the drive shaft seal. The tell-tail red ATF fluid
brought visions of very expensive repairs.



I took the boat to Amel in Hyeres. The mechanic looked at the ATF fluid
dripping down from the joint between the engine and the transmission and
said that he had to go get another tool. He returned with a mirror. After
a minute he stood up and, with a big smile, announced that that leak was
from the shift leaver on the side of the transmission. The fluid was
running down under the transmission so that it appeared to be from the
drive-shaft seal. He said that he could replace the shift leaver seal in
about 15 minutes and he did.



This winter I will sail back across the Atlantic to the US. I will miss the
Amel maintenance. Even worse, I will have to relearn how to do this stuff
myself.



Regards,



Miles Bidwell



LADYBUG (SM 216)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] main preventers & companionway lock

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

HI Guys, we are on SM 209 and use a preventer on the
main boom that leads back to the secondary winch so we
can adjust the tension from the cockpit. We us a 3:1
set of blocks to get the job done.. We also us use a
vang on the mizzen that has a jam cleat. While we
have to leave the cockpit it is an easy task most of
the time.

--- john martin <symoondog@hotmail.com> wrote:


Hi Eric on "Kimberlite",

You asked me a while back about my main preventers.
I've posted some photos on my photo folder "Moon
Dog". I don't use the Amel-provided vang with jam
cleat, I use two vangs without the built-in jam
cleat and use a rope clutch to secure them each in
the cockpit. I just attach one end of the vang to
the eye under the middle of the boom and then the
other end to the cleat on the salon roof top (the
one usually used for the pole foreguy). The lines
to tighten or loosen the vangs run through a hole in
the front of the hard dodger, through a rope clutch
inside the dodger on the dashboard. I have one on
each side and now I never have to leave the cockpit
to trim a preventer. I've also got two pad-eyes in
the deck, through bolted, mounted in the wiring
access compartments in forward head and the forward
hanging locker. This lead isn't as good as the roof
top cleats but they've worked well to prevent a gybe
in pretty bad conditions. So either place works to
secure them.

I've also posted photos of the very simple system I
use to hold the companionway door up. It is a flat
brass sliding bar that just slides onto a small L
bracket. It only takes a second to put in place. I
used to have a barrel bolt there but it was always a
hassle to line up the bolt with the hole, so this is
much easier.

All's well with us, we are moving slowly south with
the springtime and warming weather. We are in
Caldera now, a small town of 12,000 people, the
local people are very friendly...we were out til 2
last night at the "Hermandad de la Costa" Friday
night men's club, abalone for dinner followed by
lots of red wine and singing of Chilean folk songs !


Best regards,
John Martin
SM 248 "Moon Dog"
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ATF fluid leak

edmund_steele
 

SM#331 has the Yanmar 85 HP engine with a ZF Hurth model HSW 250H – 2.8
transmission. The latter has had a small leak of ATF fluid from the
output drive shaft seal. I had a VERY expensive repair made a year ago
with a 45 mm "speedy sleeve". It made no difference whatsoever. The
leak is noticeable under the transmission but I have never had to top
up the fluid between routine servicing. It has been suggested that the
reason that it leaks is that there is no "breather" on the
transmission. It was further suggested that any device that needs a
cooler, should have a breather as no seal is going to withstand the
pressure build up. Has anyone had this problem? Has anyone added a
simple breather?
Ed
DoodleBug


Bigger Bed

edmund_steele
 

My wife wants to expand the master cabin bed in our SM#331 by the
addition of a small section of platform and a mattress section. This
would block off the vanity of course BUT – has anyone done this? If so,
how did it work? How was it made?
Ed
DoodleBug


Eumenia mini 5500 - where are you?

edmund_steele
 

We have a Eumenia mini 5500 dishwasher on SM#331. It went out of
service in Australia last year and we have been forced to make long
passages without a functional dishwasher. (Just throw the dirty ones
over the side!) Australia had never heard of Eumenia but I was sure
that I could get the unit either repaired or replaced in Europe. We are
now lying at Marmaris, Turkey (OK, not part of the EU yet). I have
Googled for Eumenia and the only hit I got was a dealer in New Zealand.
The user's guide states that it is made in Austria. Does anyone know
how to find a dealer / repair center / replacement?
Ed
DoodleBug