Shaft generator
John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
Hello Jeff,
You will find details of a British wind and water generator at www.boost-energy.com/ampair/products_product4.asp This is for a towed propellor. The actual generator is a first class product, I know because I had one in the wind driven form. It was mounted initially just above the Radar on the mizzen of my awful Oyster 435 and did not work when the mizzen staysail was hoisted. It was fine when relocated at the top of the mast but now lies on the bottom of Newport R.I. harbour thanks to Hurricane Bob. There is another British maker of a wind/water generator which looked better but I cannot trace them. Before you get too involved in fitting a shaft driven generator check with your engine/gearbox maker that it will not wreck the gearbox. This happened to someone we met in the Pacific and the reason was that there was no pressurised oil supply to the gearbox unless the engine was running. He was assured by his favourite mechanic back in the States that there would be no problems and he continued to let the shaft freewheel with his next gearbox !!! and it was not even driving a generator. That showed great faith in that mechanic or was it stupidity? Regards, Anne and John SM319
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Shaft Generator
Jeff Goff
Hello All-
A few months ago I purchased a Wauquiez Amphitrite and have became interested in fitting it with a shaft generator. I cruised extensively on my previous Wauquiez Pretorien, but that boat used a saildrive. I understand that older Amels came fitted with a shaft generator as a factory option. I spoke with Joel Potter about this and he recommended that I post here and see what info I can uncover. I'm located in Ft. Lauderdale and if anyone local has one I'd like to come take a look and take some pics. If there is anyone else out there with a technical understanding of the setup please let me know. Cheers, Jeff Goff ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.yahoo.com)
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Re: Cooking batteries
thanks to all for the informations about health of our batteries. I
think also to by for sure the Manual ! Then about start solenoid, I had the same problem but it was resolved by a technician with a lubricant spray after he removed the black rubber button. It is very easy and works...for a while( you can obviously repeat it), waiting for a spare one. The same stuk solenoid I had inside the Lofran control box with the chain running up without the possibility to stop it ! It is possible to remove and open the box and detach the contact points and than spray again. Eric,I don't know where you are and so where to find the batteries. Do you know if it's possible to find the Dephi maintance free batteries in the Caribian? all the best, Giovanni & Marina SM2K EUTIKIA Venezia --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai" <annejohn@...> wrote: the 12 volt starting battery had failed. I called in a mechanic whosophisticated load tester which proved that the starter battery was fine but thatsuspected as I had put a voltmeter on each battery after they had been oncharge for some time in a marina. There are four pairs of 105 AH 12 voltmeter gave a reading of 13.4/13.6 on six of the batteries but on theother pair the reading was about 14 volts on one and 12.2 on the other.It was the latter one that failed thea new starter battery.and one pair shows red. According to the key on the new battery thereare four stages, green when new then black then red and finally whitewhen the battery is dead.good condition. The experts advice is that means that there is 105AH touse before it is necessary to recharge then. This means that chargingdeath of the batteries. In practice this means that there is only about15% of the nominal capacity available for use each day as it is90% full as the charge rate is so low.Nigel Calder. It is expensive but worth it's weight in gold so put it on
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Cooking batteries
John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
I recently had a problem caused by a defective solenoid which meant
that the engine could not be started. Initially I suspected that the 12 volt starting battery had failed. I called in a mechanic who replaced the solenoid and tested the batteries using a sophisticated load tester which proved that the starter battery was fine but that one of the house batteries was dying. It was one which I had suspected as I had put a voltmeter on each battery after they had been on charge for some time in a marina. There are four pairs of 105 AH 12 volt batteries on my boat and they are all nearly six years old. The meter gave a reading of 13.4/13.6 on six of the batteries but on the other pair the reading was about 14 volts on one and 12.2 on the other. It was the latter one that failed the load tester and it was replaced by the engine battery and I fitted a new starter battery. Now that I have removed the protective film from the condition indicators on the batteries I can see that three pairs show green and one pair shows red. According to the key on the new battery there are four stages, green when new then black then red and finally white when the battery is dead. The total capacity is 4 X 105AH = 420AH when the batteries are in good condition. The experts advice is that means that there is 105AH to use before it is necessary to recharge then. This means that charging should start before the reading on the E meter shows more than 25% discharge. Exceeding that figure will progressively speed up the death of the batteries. In practice this means that there is only about 15% of the nominal capacity available for use each day as it is uneconomical to keep the generator running when the batteries are 90% full as the charge rate is so low. Finally, Christmas is coming and if you do not already have it I highly recommend Boatowners Mechanical and Electrical Manual by Nigel Calder. It is expensive but worth it's weight in gold so put it on your wish list. Best wishes, John SM 319
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: cooking batteries
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
We had the same experience at the beginning of last season with gel batteries similar to Delco. TWO years old. We had switched off the battery switches and left the boat for 7 months ashore. When, on our return, I switched the shore power on to charge them the problem arose. By chance I happened to touch the wood under the pilot berth and found it hot. Hate to think what would have happened if I had left the charger on over night... We replaced the whole lot.
Despite every precaution over their use I have come to treat batteries as a renewable item every 2 years in an SM which is lived aboard for 7 months of the year and rarely sees a marina. Happy charging. Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, about to return to Uruguay after 5 months and to check the batteries..... From: "John McDougall" <j.c.mcdougall@btinternet.com>_________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Cooking batteries
eric freedman
We just replaced all of ours. They are a standard group 31 deep cycle
battery. Delphi has been purchased by interstate batteries and were readily available at $90- US here. Fair Winds, Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of eutikia2003 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:12 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Cooking batteries About standard DELPHI freedom marine(calcium) batteries I am now wondering if to replace or not all of them. They are in good shape but working from 1/1/2004. The next november 2007 I think to across the Atlantic and I wish full power on board. Every suggestion will be appreciated, thanks to all, Giovanni TESTA EUTIKIA, SM2000 # 428 --- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai" <annejohn@...> wrote: very very worried. There is clearly at least one fault somewhwere inthe electrics be it battery, alternators, regulators, battery chargersbeing left connected to charge the batteries and when they becomesee the health of one of their batteries by looking at the littlewindow which should be green in a perfect world. I thought that this wasB S until the electrician scraped off the protective film from the
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Re: Cooking batteries
About standard DELPHI freedom marine(calcium) batteries I am now
wondering if to replace or not all of them. They are in good shape but working from 1/1/2004. The next november 2007 I think to across the Atlantic and I wish full power on board. Every suggestion will be appreciated, thanks to all, Giovanni TESTA EUTIKIA, SM2000 # 428 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai" <annejohn@...> wrote: very very worried. There is clearly at least one fault somewhwere inthe electrics be it battery, alternators, regulators, battery chargersbeing left connected to charge the batteries and when they becomesee the health of one of their batteries by looking at the littlewindow which should be green in a perfect world. I thought that this wasB S until the electrician scraped off the protective film from the
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Cooking batteries
John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
I am no expert in this area but if I had the problem I would be very
very worried. There is clearly at least one fault somewhwere in the electrics be it battery, alternators, regulators, battery chargers or defective wiring with intermitent connections. You were very lucky to have caught the problem just in time before you had a fire on board and you got away with acid deposits, no explosions from hydrogen release, no lung damage from sulphurous acid fumes etc. If it was me I would find a top class electrician and get his diagnosis and cure. If he cannot find the cause get another expert. You are probably aware that every year there are boats burnt out whilst on the hard as well as in a marina as a result of mains being left connected to charge the batteries and when they become defective they over heat. On an entirely different point I recently had problems with one of my batteries and never understood why Delphi claim that you can see the health of one of their batteries by looking at the little window which should be green in a perfect world. I thought that this was B S until the electrician scraped off the protective film from the windows and all was revealed! Be warned, Anne and John SM 319
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Re: cooking batteries
John McDougall <j.c.mcdougall@...>
I left my boat over winter '04 in Dubrovnik marina and contracted the
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boatyard to run the generator & charge the batteries every 2-4 weeks. They clearly did not do this and they also left the battery switches on, causing the batteries to be "dead" when I arrived in May 05. Upon charging using shore power the result was exactly as you describe. Sizzling heat, strong smell and water (acid) on floor of compartment. I got by temporarily by disconnecting the two worst batteries (7&8 from memory) and charging while motoring was OK but problem re-occurred with shore power. All the batteries had to be replaced and this cured the problem. The batteries (original Delphi) were by this time 4years old & therefore towards the end of their life anyway. I realise you say that your batteries check out OK but the symptoms are identical. In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "mgrunstein2002" <mgrunstein2002@...> wrote:
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Re: cooking batteries
sy_windfall <sy_windfall@...>
I am not an Amel owner, so I don't know about the actual charger used
in one, but I do know that for a proper operation it is necessary to measure temperature at the batteries. This temperature is one of the variables which are used to determine the correct charge current/voltage. It will reduce charge current when the temperature rises above a certain level. Just an idea. Best, Eddy May --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "mgrunstein2002" <mgrunstein2002@...> wrote: battery compartment heated up and upon opening it I was confronted withsteam, sizzling with water accumulating on the floor of the compartment,the batteries too hot to the touch and strong smell. I left it open andwith the compartment closed. When open and charging it was normal again.now I sail with open compartment and so far so good.found. My batteries are the ASM or GSM from West Marine at $200+ each.
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cooking batteries
mgrunstein2002 <mgrunstein2002@...>
can anyone comment on the subject. Recently, while motoring, the battery
compartment heated up and upon opening it I was confronted with steam, sizzling with water accumulating on the floor of the compartment, the batteries too hot to the touch and strong smell. I left it open and after a few hours they cooled down. This did not repeat when we continued motoring and charging and discharging were again normal. This happened again while we were connected to shore power, again with the compartment closed. When open and charging it was normal again. now I sail with open compartment and so far so good. The alternator and batteries were checked and nothing wrong was found. My batteries are the ASM or GSM from West Marine at $200+ each. Any ideas?
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Re: Teak Companionway "Cam Latches" replace the plastic thumb nuts
Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
A more simple solution is to dril a hole in the companionway frame and
install a small sliding bolt lock. This is quick to use and leaves the screw nuts in place so that they can be used to hold the companionway slide at any desired height. This is not as pretty, but it can be installed in less than 10 minutes and it will never ware out or need adjusting. Regards, Miles Bidwell LADYBUG --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jrjrjrouse2000" <sailingjudy@...> wrote:
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Re: Teak Companionway "Cam Latches" replace the plastic thumb nuts
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We were aboard Security and saw the cam latches. My first thought was, "Why didn't I think of that?" Mine are made and our SM will be a joy to open and close!!! Thanks Judy and Bill. -- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jrjrjrouse2000" <sailingjudy@...> wrote:
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Re: Teak Companionway "Cam Latches" replace the plastic thumb nuts
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We were aboard Security and saw the cam latches. My first thought was, "Why didn't I think of that?" Mine are made and our SM will be a joy to open and close!!! Thanks Judy and Bill. -- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jrjrjrouse2000" <sailingjudy@...> wrote:
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Re: Teak Companionway "Cam Latches" replace the plastic thumb nuts
abulerhum <dji314@...>
EXCELLENT!
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How could have we been leaving without it before? I'll make it right away! Georges Pellegrini
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jrjrjrouse2000" <sailingjudy@...> wrote:
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Re: Teak Companionway "Cam Latches" replace the plastic thumb nuts
The point is that you open the companionway by one simple flip of
each wrist, rather than turning and turning and turning and turning..... Judy --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Paquin" <alex.paquin@...> wrote: plastic Thethumb nuts to open and close the campanionway? idea did not originate with us. Another Amel owner made aprototypeand we believe that we have perfected it.Looks interesting but I don't seem to get the point!
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Re: Teak Companionway "Cam Latches" replace the plastic thumb nuts
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jrjrjrouse2000"
<sailingjudy@...> wrote: prototype and we believe that we have perfected it.Looks interesting but I don't seem to get the point! Alex Paquin Simpatico Maramu #94
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Teak Companionway "Cam Latches" replace the plastic thumb nuts
How many times have you turned and turned the campanionway plastic
thumb nuts to open and close the campanionway? We have posted some photos of a solution that we really like. The idea did not originate with us. Another Amel owner made a prototype and we believe that we have perfected it. See the photos and drawings we posted in a new album titled "Campanionway Latches." Regards, Bill & Judy Rouse SECURITY SM2 387
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Google Earth marine application(s)
Check out what this French company is doing:
* shipwrecks plotted off the French coastline * coastal aerial photos (of French Atlantic and Med) tie to Google maps * raster nautical charts overlaid on Google maps (technology demo) * tide predictions around the world and more http://www.justmagic.com/GM-GE.html Heck, once broadband connectivity is available thru out the oceans of the world (read cheaply) imagine how that will change navigation. Richard
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Re: Cockpit locker
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
Thanks John for your efforts on my behalf, corrections noted.
Gary --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai" <annejohn@...> wrote:
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