Dear Naegels and Rob, thanks for the tips.Ian

_________________________________________________________________
It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

--- In amelyachtowners@..., johnabo2003 <no_reply@y...>
wrote:

I am very interested in the Super Maramu, but I am a bit concerned
that there will not be enough airflow through the cockpit with

such a

high fixed dodger.

Has anybody found that when sailing in the Caribbean, that there

is

not enough air flow when at anchor or beating in light winds?

Also, what are your experiences with air flow through the rear

cabin

area?

After an uncomfortable first year on NOELIA we finally took the wind
scoop we purchased for the forward cabin (which we had never needed
to use) and placed it aft so as to direct the airflow from the front
of the boat into the aft cabin. We have been most comfortable ever
since and have even needed a light blanket from time to time. We
have spent the last four winters in the Caribbean so the
temperatures have been comparable to Greece. Of course this is
an "at anchor" solution, and underway if we are spending time in the
aft cabin, we use the Hella fans.

As we are using the boat in Greece where the average temperature in the
summer can easily reach 40 Celsius I found out that the extension of the
dodger in combination of the opening of the left cockpit window provide
enough draft especially when you are in anchor and the boat is pointing to
the wind. I do not understand why the right window has not the opening
capability as well.

Regarding the aft cabin as I had the experience from my previous Santorin I
asked Amel to make the side hatches to open that helped alot. If you wish I
can send photos of that. I have also the Hella Fans installed but with the
open hatches there is enough draft.

Dimitris Krassopoulos
SM Alma Libre

_____

From: jfolino901 [mailto:jfolino901@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:46 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Hot cockpit


--- In amelyachtowners@..., johnabo2003 <no_reply@y...>
wrote:

I am very interested in the Super Maramu, but I am a bit concerned
that there will not be enough airflow through the cockpit with such

a

high fixed dodger.

Has anybody found that when sailing in the Caribbean, that there is
not enough air flow when at anchor or beating in light winds?

Also, what are your experiences with air flow through the rear

cabin

area?

WHILE THE COCKPIT ISN'T AIR-CONDITIONED AS THE CABIN SPACE IS, THE
PORT SIDE WINDOW IN THE DODGER DOES OPEN FOR AIR FLOW. I JUST DRINK A
LOT OF ICE WATER AND OTHER REFRESHING ICE COLD BEVERAGES!

THE AFT CABIN IS BEST FITTED WITH HELLA FANS. THESE MOVE ENOUGH AIR
TO MAKE SLEEPING TOLERABLE.
JOHN FOLINO SM#347 SULAJON



Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

ADVERTISEMENT



<http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=1291vgbmg/M=296967.4952650.6171374.3294649/D=groups
/S=1705065792:HM/EXP=1086903997/A=2181364/R=2/id=noscript/SIG=1304ck1na/*htt
p://www.sodaclubusa.com/referrer.asp?redirect=rv_boat_camp.asp&referrer=0002
_0015_0178_0002>

<http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=296967.4952650.6171374.3294649/D=groups/S=
:HM/A=2181364/rand=425875670>

_____

Yahoo! Groups Links


* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/>


* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe>


* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .

A further suggestion when installing new prop shaft seals is to use the old bronze wear
piece to insert the new seals. To use it it must first be cleaned and the internal O ring
removed. By turning it around from the correct assembly direction i.e. the larger dia to
the seals you have the correct dia tool for seal insertion in addition it is held square by the
prop shaft. his works well on the Santorin and therefore could well work on a SM but will
need checking.

A further comment in respect to this system is that engine oil is used I presume because it
is 2 or 3 times more tolerant of moisture than gear oil and still retains (provided a good
quality oil is selected) excellant gear lube performance.

Rob Kyle

Santorin No 54 Khamsin
Fango No 24 Ebbrezza

--- In amelyachtowners@..., johnabo2003 <no_reply@y...>
wrote:

I am very interested in the Super Maramu, but I am a bit concerned
that there will not be enough airflow through the cockpit with such

a

high fixed dodger.

Has anybody found that when sailing in the Caribbean, that there is
not enough air flow when at anchor or beating in light winds?

Also, what are your experiences with air flow through the rear

cabin

area?

WHILE THE COCKPIT ISN'T AIR-CONDITIONED AS THE CABIN SPACE IS, THE
PORT SIDE WINDOW IN THE DODGER DOES OPEN FOR AIR FLOW. I JUST DRINK A
LOT OF ICE WATER AND OTHER REFRESHING ICE COLD BEVERAGES!

THE AFT CABIN IS BEST FITTED WITH HELLA FANS. THESE MOVE ENOUGH AIR
TO MAKE SLEEPING TOLERABLE.
JOHN FOLINO SM#347 SULAJON

I am very interested in the Super Maramu, but I am a bit concerned
that there will not be enough airflow through the cockpit with such a
high fixed dodger.

Has anybody found that when sailing in the Caribbean, that there is
not enough air flow when at anchor or beating in light winds?

Also, what are your experiences with air flow through the rear cabin
area?

Hi Ian and Judy,

The faster method to pull these out, is to pierce metal circle
inside seal thanks to an awl (long sharpened piece of metal ). Use
it with a hammer and hit the awl firmly one or two time until
pierced.

Do it on each side of the shaft. Then screw on long screw into each
holes (type self-tapping + Phillips is the best). These screws must
be at least 6' long, but rather thin. Give screws some turns, just
to make it firm holding.

Pull on both screw heads with good pliers to extract seals. The
first one (external) is the hardest. Second and last are easier. By
this method, it's a 10' job.

TIP : to put seals back, do not hesitate to fill seals with TEFLON
grease, inside and outside. Have on board a metal tube with a
diameter just smaller than seals. Position seal around the shaft,
lightly pushed in transmission hole. Then put the metal tube on it
and hit it gently with a hammer. Avoid mainly to push seal twisted,
only straight. Damaged seal lips could really cut short assembly
life.

Harder is propeller extraction. Of cause, use Autoprop extraction
tools, but this is often not sufficient. Over and above that you
have to "sound" (hit) propeller gently with a hammer around the
shaft when extraction tool is under tension. If this is not working,
you have to use a blowtorch , but a big one. Hobby model is
unfortunately not powerful enough. Take care, because when propeller
released, it could promptly fall down, and damage blades. Secure it
by any way.

To avoid this blocking problem, I apply a thin film of Teflon grease
before reassembling propeller.

To clean propeller of sea concretions, just apply acid with a brush
(for instance battery acid or hydrochloric acid 20%) and wait … It
works alone. However avoid to use to much acid on SPURR moorings
breaker, because there are 2 TEFLON (?) seals which do not like this
treatment.

In brief : dismantle propeller, SPURR, change bearing and seals,
drain transmission oil + reassembling and oil refill takes me
usually less than 2 hours.

TIP : buy a metric 36 wrench. Impossible to find out of Europe and
even not easy to find there. Necessary to remove oil drain bolt.

If you see emulsion in oil tank in engine room, don't worry too
much, you can always use your engine, but at 1800 revolutions. Try
to haul out next call.

All the best

Patrick Naegels – Caramel – SM2000 - #329

I have just changed the bronze bearing and its three seals.All went to plan. The whole operation took about three hours.This is the second time I have done it myself, following detailed notes that I took when Daniel, Amel`s man in La R did the first one for me.I still have to screw up my courage to attack each seal with a screwdriver to break the metal circle in the seal to allow it to deform and eventually be edged out. I am always concerned that I will put a gouge in the surface of the metal that the seals fit against.
Has anyone discovered a particular technique or tool that makes this part of the job easier and less fraught?
On a different subject, amongst less usual spares, I will now carry the particular shaped 100 Amp fuse for my Cristec inverter which was fitted when we bought Pen Azen( we have the 1200 watt one, and wouldn`t be without it). Unfortunately we had a 3 kw fan heater plugged in when we switched the inverter on and the surge of power blew the inverter fuse before the Amel fitted circuit breaker could react.Although you can do a get you home job with fuse wire we found the particular fuse impossible to get locally ( admittedly, Chile) so the good M. Selo came to our aid--once more.
Ian & Judy Jenkins, Pen Azen, SM 302, Valparaiso, Chile

_________________________________________________________________
It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

I will be heading for Tortola next week to get Pagan ready to go up
on the hard for the hurricane season. She will be going on the
market in the near future. If anyone is interested in viewing my 94
SM I will be there through the 15th of June. You can contact me at
Pagan-Daisy@.... Arnold

Hello all owners and interested parties! We would just like to echo
the remarks made by Gary and Mary on S/V Liahona. They could not
have expressed our thoughts any better. We took delivery of NOELIA
in November of 1998 at La Rochelle. We were not yet ready to embark
on our retirement cruise, but did take advantage of the French franc
to dollar exchange rate. Due to our delayed departure date, we
turned the boat over to Joel as his demo boat for a year. No doubt
many of you owners were on board Noelia as a demo boat that first
year of our ownership. We cannot express enough gratitude to Joel
and the entire AMel family in La Rochelle and Guadeloupe for their
help and assistance throughout the last four years of our living
aboard. Granted, our track has not been exactly what we expected
going into this great adventure, but we have wintered in the
Caribbean and summered in Maine and the Maritimes for 4 years and
have enjoyed every minute of it. Has the boat been trouble free?
No, it is a boat. But the problems have been few and far between
and most easily repaired due to the superb design and accessibility
of all systems. I never cease to be amazed at the support given us
by Selo in La Rochelle--receiving a water maker part in St. Thomas
in 3 days over Easter, to name just one incident. We received the
part before we received the email telling us of its tracking
number.

Now, as we prepare for another phase of our lives, we will
undoubtedly ask Joel to find another owner for NOELIA. (That is, if
we don't change our minds,Joel.) We did not sell all the Kansas
farm for a life on the water, but after a few months back on the
farm we may have other ideas. (Peter thinks a vegetable garden
would be nice--I give him 2 months.) I don't know if we have any
words of wisdom for other owners and future owners or not, but here
are some of our thoughts: 1. Live with the boat for at least a year;
Amel has a superb design so don't change anything. We were
attracted to the Super Maramu for many reasons and while we could
have done this or that (we don't have an inverter and have never
missed it)we didn't. 2. Ask AMEL if you have questions. As long as
you adhere to #1, see above, AMEL can help you. If you don't, they
have to guess. 3. Is the boat perfect? No, but it a darn sight
better than most boats we have encountered costing lots more, and
providing less standard equipment/options, and machinery access.
(See Liahona's comments on their Boat Show visit). 4. Take
with "grains of salt" the sea and war stories of those who have had
so much difficulty. Another cause of amazement and amusement for
us, the 1% of Amel owners who have 99% of the problems. This is
most interesting and does make you wonder just what they do or don't
do to maintain and safely sail their boats.

So, in closing, thanks Joel, Jean-Jacque, Laurent, M. Selo, and all
you folks who visit this site who have helped us and inspired us
over the years. But, most of all we thank NOELIA who has, and will
continue to give us, a "great ride"

Mary Hallman-Lee
Peter Lee
S/Y NOELIA

Has anyone had their Mango on a tidal grid for bottom work?. Here in Alaska
grids are prevalent. The issue would be could one plank of the grid support
the weight of the vessel without damage to the keel or hull. The planks are
very strong but 6 or so feet apart.
SV Eshamy Mango # 15 Michael P. Mccarthy

Conversations with the USCG subsequent to the May 21, 2004 bulletin
have revealed additional information regarding the 96-Hour Advance
Notice of Arrival (ANOA) regulation. The regulation, adopted in
February 28, 2003, includes a correction made by the USCG. The
correction was included in the Federal Register on November 10, 2003
and amended the regulation to clarify exempt vessels.

We are pleased to announce that U.S. recreational vessels are exempt
from the ANOA requirements.

Who Is Required to File An ANOA?

U.S. Flagged Commercial Vessels
Foreign Flagged Recreational and Commercial Vessels
How to I file my Advance Notice of Arrival (ANOA)?

If you are operating a foreign commercial or recreational vessel or
U.S. commercial vessel 300 GT or less, you must file an ANOA with
the appropriate Captain of the Port (COTP). The Miami COTP area
encompasses from Malabar to Cape Romano, Florida including the
Florida Keys. Their contact information is as follows: (Ph.) (305)
535-8701 (Fax) (305) 535-8761. After downloading and completing the
ANOA form, it must be faxed to the COTP.

If you are operating a foreign commercial or recreational vessel or
U.S. commercial vessel greater than 300 GT, you must file an ANOA
with the National Vessel Movement Center (NVMC) 96 hours prior to
arriving at a U.S. port. This ANOA can be either completed online or
via an electronic form that can be emailed to the NVMC at
sans@.... To complete an online ANOA or to download the
ANOA form, visit http://www.nvmc.uscg.gov/. Instructions for
utilizing the online service are included in the attached ANOA
brochure. The NVMC can also be contacted at (800) 708-9823.

What do I do if I file an ANOA and my estimated time of arrival
changes?

If your cruise duration is 96 hours or greater, the appropriate
authorities must be notified as soon as practicable but at least 24
hours before entering the port.
If your cruise duration is less than 96 hours and greater than 24
hours, the appropriate authorities must be notified as soon as
practicable but at least 24 hours before entering the port.
If your cruise duration is less than 24 hours, the appropriate
authorities must be notified as soon as practicable but at least 12
hours before entering the port.
If you filed your ANOA online with the NVMC, you must email your
itinerary changes. If you filed your ANOA with the COTP, you must
either call the COTP to notify them of your changes or fax a revised
ANOA.

Gary,

Can you forward the link.

I would love to read the article

Thanks

Eric





_____

From: Derek jarvis [mailto:sailorman522000@...]
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 2:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New Coast Guard Regulations



Gary
There was an attachment..it is concerning the mandatory 96 hour notice of
arrival for boats coming into the US.

amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:
Was there an attachment that didn't get attached? What was it that
came across your desk?
Thanks, Gary Silver s/v Liahona Hull # 335

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Derek jarvis
<sailorman522000@y...> wrote:

This came across my desk here at Bollman Yachts that is a new

ripple in the Home Security regulations for yachts coming to the US.

Sounds like they mean business!
Cheers Derek Jarvis



---------------------------------
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70/year

Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT


---------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links

To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@...

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.




---------------------------------
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70/year








Yahoo! Groups Sponsor



ADVERTISEMENT

<http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=129ortla6/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups
/S=1705065792:HM/EXP=1085511514/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/companion
.yahoo.com> click here



<http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups/S=
:HM/A=2128215/rand=131233857>



_____

Yahoo! Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe>

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service.

Hi, We need to replace our Delphi batteries here in the US. We think
we would like to stay with the Delphi batteries which we have been
pleased with over the years and for the appropriate fit (battery box,
connectors, cables, etc.) So far we have had no luck finding them and
talking to reps at Delphi has not helped. Does anyone know where we
can find these in the US? We are located in Maryland. Does anyone
know the Part Number to request. When I tell Delphi the numbers we
read on our European batteries they cannot find them?? Please send
any replies to me at syharmonie@... Thank you. Ann Harsh SM#160

Hello Fellow Amel Owners,

Wow, thanks to Gary Silver for the unexpected but much appreciated praise.
I've got the best job, in the world. They even pay me! Now I'll need a
new/bigger hat.

Regarding the 96 hour ADVANCED NOTICE OF ARRIVAL/ANOA. It's is NOT required
for American/U.S.A. recreational vessels. It is required for all commercial
vessels regardless of registry and for all foreign flagged recreational
vessels. Learn more at www.nvmc.uscg.gov/

All the best,

Joel F. Potter
Super Maramu #400 "MARY BROWN"

Hi guys,

We just finished up our 2 year cruising adventure and sold "Linnea" (SM 2000
number 366). The new owner is going to South America and the Pacific, so he
has no need for our Navionics chart cards (fitting the Furuno radar/chart
plotter).

The chart cards we have are Navionics XL charts, and we have about $4000
worth of chart cards covering part of the Atlantic European waters, the
whole Med, the Atlantic islands, Caribbean and Florida.

I just checked on the Internet. The European XL charts cost 298 euros (+20%
VAT) each and the Caribbean and US XL charts are $199 each. You can have
them for $100 per card or even less if you take all the ones we have.

Walter
Phone (614) 592-2255

Hello to all from Liahona:

I thought I would take a moment and express my opinion about the
value of the Amel sailboats that we own. My wife and I just attended
Sail Expo West all sailboat show in Oakland California. Of course
very few people have heard of Amel on the west coast of the US.
Nevertheless, we toured every blue water cruising boat at this show.
THERE WAS NOTHING TO COMPARE. The only boat that even came close
cost 1.4 million USD. Frankly it even lacked some of the standard
features of my SM, namely water tight bulkheads. That is almost
three times what I paid for my SM new!! Now, while I know that
because the USD is now weak against the Euro you can't purchase an
Amel SM as inexpensively as you once were able to, an Amel SM still
represents a tremendous value for the money spent. Besides a
wonderfully thought out boat and systems you also get the backing of
a company and sales people who really care about their customers. A
fellow I met in Lanzarote had just purchased a new boat in England
and was headed the same direction as we were. His owners hand over
consisted of a nearly bankrupt company handing him a box of owners
manuals, a set of keys and wishing him good luck. Compare that to
the school Amel puts on!! Isn't it comforting that the conservative
approach that Amel has to business makes them such a stable company
that we can all depend upon to be there when we need them? Isn't it
nice to not own a boat that has been orphaned by the builder?
Joel Potter and the Amel family in La Rochelle and the Caribbean have
treated me better than ANY other company I have ever done business
with. I consder all of these people life long friends, not just
someone who I purchased a boat from. Joel has taken time to answer
hundreds of questions for me, Jean Jacques Lemonier & Olivier Beaute
treated us with the greatest kindness, respect and helpfulness as we
purchased and took delivery of our boat. Amel flew people to
Lanzarote to do warranty service on our transmission when the
hydraulic brake system developed a problem. Amel fixed things that
were beyond the warranty period when I kindly pointed out that the
problem started to develope during the warranty period. Laurent
Colona in Guadeloupe has worked tirelessly to meet our every need.
Maude and M. Selo have likewise made every attempt to meet our post
warranty needs. Sure, I have had a frustration or two, but mostly
related to the fact that I don't speak French. Everyone at Amel has
bent over backwards to help me in English.
All in all I can't imagine what it might have been like with another
manufacturer, but I can say that Amel has an extra-ordinary track
record of service, honesty, integrity and with Liahona and myself.
Thanks Joel and the Amel family for 2 1/2 years of friendship and
caring.

Most sincerely,

Gary & Mary Silver s/v Liahona Hull # 335

Derek,
Still no attachment. Perhaps Yahoo doesn't allow them to be forwarded. How
about typing the URL?

Roy

Dear All
Sorry about the attachment problem.This should do it.
Cheers Derek


---------------------------------
Do you Yahoo!?
Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger

Derek,

I saw no attachment. I went to Bollman Yachts website to see if the
information was ther and did not see it. Please try again.
Thanks,

Unwineding
Sharki #123

Roy