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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu 2000 Dodgers

lionel_marais <lionel_marais@...>
 

I am not an Amel Yacht owner yet, but I have been aiming for several
years at becoming a Super Maramu owner, one of the very few boats I
would consider changing to from our beloved Endurance 35. As decision
time comes closer (meaning as cumulative savings make it feasible to
consider a jump from dream world to reality) one has to consider in
details advantages and drawbacks of various options within the
limited selection of boats and within the possible specifications for
each model. This is obviously not the purpose of the amelyachtowners
site, but I am glad to find here feedback from more enthusiastic
owners with years of sailing experience than I could ever meet.

The dodger/bimini/awning question keeps creeping back when comparing
boats, and it is apparently one question for which some Super Maramu
owners have found various solutions with various degrees of
satisfaction. Amel themselves have altered the design raising the
back, and offering to cut clear windows in the vinyl… but these
alterations come short of offering a real alternative to the fully
open cockpit with temporary vinyl-canvas shelter. Other boat builders
like Hallberg Rassy (http://www.hallberg-rassy.se) (see Hallberg
Rassy yachts 53 and 62) offer a choice, for the same model: either
dodger / bimini or hard top / dog house. Whichever you choose I feel
that you are more likely to live happily with it when it is your
deliberate choice. Furthermore if experience or time have you change
your mind, the option remains, down the line, to replace
these "appendices".

The most recent Amel design appears to have reached an optimum for
the dodger/bimini solution, in terms of balance between visibility
through the windows and above, headroom… leaving little hope of
finding, on that route, any cure for the inherent drawbacks you
mentioned together with a few others like blocking the view forward
when you stand in the cockpit and you are not way above 2 meters tall…

The dimensions of the Super Maramu cockpit seem to present a perfect
base for a hard top solution taking advantage in full of the head
room available in the cockpit below the main sail boom.
This would allow three large windows as you suggest, thus greatly
improving the view forward. (Modern materials have allowed boat
builders to design windows much larger than these, and still able to
withstand battering from the sea in more exposed positions on multi-
hulls)
To add strength and because of the proximity of the main sail sheet,
I would have the middle window not opening. (Your windshield wiper
could be installed on it).
The opening of the other two windows may be along a horizontal axis
at the middle of the windows if a hinge at the top has the windows
protruding too much forward and interfering with the main sail sheet
and its pulley block. (You may even have to cut the windows in half
with only the upper half opening, which would not be as good).
The lateral windows could be half opening (sliding).
In addition to being a much better support for larger clear top
windows/openings as you suggest, a hard top extending all the way to
the mizzen mast could me made very strong with some attachment to the
mast, without the need for thick reinforcement. (We seek shelter from
the sun but would also like to keep as much shelter as possible in
bad weather when vinyl-canvas extensions may have to be taken down).
A complete cockpit hard top cover would improve safety (no weird
angle) when going in and out of the cockpit. There is plenty of
height, as can be experienced with the present bimini, for a
continuous hard top not to present any significant hindrance: hand-
rails properly positioned on top would even help when moving about.
This roof could be a good support for solar panels.
Complete closure of the cockpit would certainly be easier to design
and attach on a fix structure, adding a proper temporary deck saloon
to the living space.
This hard top being an added piece could be removed without too much
additional fuss, if need be, for engine or generator removal.
Having done some touch up on drawings and photos, I think the overall
silhouette could be quite pleasant.

I would be very interested to know whether and how you bring your
ideas to fruition or if you give up, why you give up.

--- In amelyachtowners@y..., Anne-Sophie Schmitt <nearlynothing@y...>
wrote:
Thank you for the suggestion. I want something more
substantial however. Perhaps it is the fact that I
sail in cold seas as well as warm. Thanks again.
Claude Roessiger
--- hollambyuk <hollamby@c...> wrote:
Since 1989 we have lived and cruised as far as
Australia in our old
boat,an Oyster 435 from which we switched Bali Hai
No 319 early last
year,this was a vast improvement over the slow leaky
Oyster. Since
then we have sailed to the Med and been in a force
10 storm with no
problems.
We have no problems with the windscreen design.A
piece of wood one
inch by two inches by six will prop the window open
as required.
So far as the bimini top is concerned Amel
retrofitted (welded) clear
panels in the front and centre sections of the
Vynil.If we had known
this would have been a free or low cost item but
there is a lot of
time involved in taking the frame off.We then made
up a white plastic
patch which is attached to the underside with Velcro
so that it can
be removed as necessary. It works very well.



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Awning idea

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

We designed and built a very practical sun awning for the cockpit
that we now use almost all the time. Its main advantage over the
dodger extension is that it lets lots of fresh air into the cockpit.
As a prerequisite, we installed zippers in the dodger frames, to
facilitate installation and removal. First, we fold the dodger up,
and unzip the aft-most frame (this works for all dodger models, old
and new). The awning uses this frame as its forward end, and the
mizzen stays and mizzen mast as the other attachment points. The aft-
most dodger frame is about 6 inches above the top of the dodger when
the awning is in place. Forward tension is provided by lines running
from the frame to the blocks on the edges of the mainsheet
traveller. So you have an awning that runs from the dodger (with a 6
inch air gap) to the mizzen mast, out to the edges of the cockpit.
It can be used under sail (in nice conditions) or at anchor. It will
not replace the dodger in rain or heavy windward sailing, but it sure
is cooler the rest of the time.


Volvo TMD 22 Turbo: Lessons Learned

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

During the past summer, I learned a lot about the TMD22 Volvo diesel
engine and its turbocharger. Let me share some of that with those
who helped me solve my problems.
My symptoms were:
• Increasing amounts of black exhaust soot on the side of the boat,
to the point where I had to clean it after just a few hours of
running.
• Inability to run the engine over 2100 RPM under load, although it
would run to 4000 RPM in neutral.

I checked all the obvious: no restrictions on the air intake, clean
prop, clean fuel and filters (Racor & engine), good throttle
linkage. Then I had the injectors cleaned, and they had quite a bit
of carbon build-up. But that didn't change anything. So the only
other possible source of the problem was the turbo.

I talked to some other sailors, including two South Africans who
happened to be diesel mechanics – one on a submarine(!), and the
other a Caterpillar engine mechanic. They explained the turbo to me,
and ultimately told me how to remove it, clean it, and re-install it.
The turbo runs all the time, not just at high RPMs, as some have
suggested. Its role is to force more air into the engine than normal
aspiration would provide. It runs by using the exhaust gas to turn a
turbine, which is on the same shaft as a compressor on the intake
end. The turbo also has a wastegate built into the exhaust side, so
that at very high power settings, some of the exhaust gases bypass
the turbine, preventing the compressor from overpowering the engine
intake.
Now, since the turbo is in the exhaust flow, it receives all the
carbon that is normally in the exhaust gas of a diesel. That is why
it is a good idea to run the Volvo TMD22 at max RPM once in a while,
to burn off the carbon in the exhaust stream. Otherwise, the carbon
will build up and start clogging the turbine and the wastegate
valve. In extreme cases, the whole turbo will seize up, requiring
replacement or major repair.
In my case, after 1600 hours of motoring around the Med, I had a lot
of carbon build-up, but the turbo still turned. However, the
wastegate was partially clogged open, so that even at low RPMs, some
of the exhaust gases were bypassing the turbine. As a result, the
compressor wasn't running at correct speed, and the engine wasn't
getting enough air. Thus, the black exhaust. Also, at high RPMs,
the boost compensator on the fuel rack wasn't receiving enough
pressure from the compressor to open, so the engine wasn't revving
above 2100 RPMs. Basically, the fuel rack wasn't feeding more fuel
to the engine, even though the throttle called for it.
The solution: Remove the turbo (explained in the shop manual, and
very easy), and clean the carbon from the exhaust side. Also clean
the exhaust pipe leading the muffler/mixer. I took the turbo to a
specialist shop in Arrecife, Lanzarote, who cleaned it for 40 Euros.
Problem solved.
Any questions, let me know if I can clarify any of this.
Good sailing to all, Roy Benveniste


SSB Backstay antenna

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi to all,
We had a backstay antenna fitted by Amel at the time of production,
mainly because the whip would have interfered with the davits we
wanted to install. In 5+ years, we have had no problems with SSB
communications, and often find that we receive and transmit better
than neighboring boats. However, we have not done side-by-side
comparisons with a SM with a whip.
Regards, Roy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Awnings

Luc Lussier <pll@...>
 

Dear Dimitris,

I have also ordered this from Amel , but have heard that for extended trips
(i.e. 5 months) in the sun, it is better to get a larger area covered, and
that these are found in Antigua in the caribbean.

I liked your website. How difficult was it to design it ? I'd like to do
something similar for our trip. Please let me know which program you
recommend to design the website.

Cheers,
Luc

----- Original Message -----
From: "Krassopoulos Dimitris" <dkra@...>
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 2:24 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Awnings


Dear Luc,

We are sailing our SM2000 in Greece which is also very sunny. We have the
Amel extension to the cockpit awning and found it very usefull and easy to
setup. We do not know why they do not recommend it but I ordered and
received it ater two days by DHL. You can even motor or motorsail with the
awning because it is very well designed.

Best Regards
Dimitris
S/Y Almalibre
www.almalibre.gr <http://www.almalibre.gr>

-----Original Message-----
From: Luc Lussier [mailto:pll@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Awnings


Hi,

I'm planning to sail to Guadeloupe in December (from La Rochelle) and
would like to know if anyone has a recommendation for awnings for a
SM-2000.

As we will be spending 6 months in the sunny caribbean, we are looking
for a good protection and practical design for easy assembly &
disassembly.


Luc Lussier






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Awnings

Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
 

Dear Luc,

We are sailing our SM2000 in Greece which is also very sunny. We have the
Amel extension to the cockpit awning and found it very usefull and easy to
setup. We do not know why they do not recommend it but I ordered and
received it ater two days by DHL. You can even motor or motorsail with the
awning because it is very well designed.

Best Regards
Dimitris
S/Y Almalibre
www.almalibre.gr <http://www.almalibre.gr>

-----Original Message-----
From: Luc Lussier [mailto:pll@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 8:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Awnings


Hi,

I'm planning to sail to Guadeloupe in December (from La Rochelle) and
would like to know if anyone has a recommendation for awnings for a SM-2000.

As we will be spending 6 months in the sunny caribbean, we are looking
for a good protection and practical design for easy assembly & disassembly.


Luc Lussier






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Awnings

Anne-Sophie Schmitt <nearlynothing@...>
 

From experience Antigua Sails in English Harbour,
Antigua do really good work at a fair price, one of
the very few fair price things you can get on
Antigua.. Contact Graham at Antigua Sails. The
downside, unless Graham can get on to an SM in Antigua
to measure & fit, is that you won't get your
awnings/bimini right away. But, maybe he can get to an
SM. Regards, Claude Roessiger
--- Luc Lussier <pll@...> wrote:
Hi,

I'm planning to sail to Guadeloupe in December
(from La Rochelle) and would like to know if anyone
has a recommendation for awnings for a SM-2000.

As we will be spending 6 months in the sunny
caribbean, we are looking for a good protection and
practical design for easy assembly & disassembly.


Luc Lussier


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Awnings

Luc Lussier <pll@...>
 

Hi,

I'm planning to sail to Guadeloupe in December (from La Rochelle) and would like to know if anyone has a recommendation for awnings for a SM-2000.

As we will be spending 6 months in the sunny caribbean, we are looking for a good protection and practical design for easy assembly & disassembly.


Luc Lussier


ARE THERE ANY FANGO OWNERS OUT THERE ?

warnerlasserre <dennis.woods@...>
 

Hi,my partner Rob and i are the proud owners of a 1989 FANGO named
EBBREZZA which I believe means slightly tipsey in Italian.We are
currently having problems with our Autohelm 6000 which works fine for
15 to 25 minutes then trips out. The main unit has been checked and
found to be ok. Any Ideas? Any info on the FANGO would be gladly
received !
HAPPY SAILS
DENNIS WOODS


Giant Halfway Folding Bicycles

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

During July of 2001 when we were in LaRochelle taking delivery of our
Super Maramu 2000 I stumbled across a shop that had the Giant Halfway
folding aluminum bicycles. I purchased two. (About $600 US each as I
recall). They weigh 28 pounds each and come in their own cloth bag.
I believe they are 6 speed. They have stainless steel spokes,
aluminum rims, and the bikes themselves are aluminum. There are some
steel parts (e.g. the chain) but we haven't had any corrosion yet. I
do use Boeshield on the chains and whipe the other parts down with
it. We haven't used out bikes a great deal in the Caribbean but we
did use them quite a bit in La Rochelle and Lanzarote. They have a
nice rack and a nice ride. The folding mechanism is simple,
straightforward and strong. Nonetheless, they do take up a fair
amount of space in the aft locker. Our biggest problem has been that
usually we have more than 2 people on the boat and when we need to go
somewhere there aren't always enough bikes to go around. As we
cruise with smaller crew we may have time and opportunity to use them
more. One final item. These bikes take a special (at least to me)
type of tire pump. Make sure you buy a compatible tire pump when you
buy the bikes. Sincrely, Gary Silver Liahona


SSB Antenna on Amel SM

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

We purchased out Super Maramu 2000 (#335)about 15 months ago. The
Amel installation of our ICOM SSB and ICOM tuner was done well and
the system has worked great. The grounding plane installed at the
time of the build is very important and done well by Amel. We did
have the plastic base of the whip antenna crack during our Atlantic
crossing. We contended with this by lashing the base in place. Also
the whip is a two piece item that screws together about half way up
the whip. This screw joint began to come un-screwed at one point.
Perhaps checking to make sure this is tightened well should be added
to the checklist before going offshore. Amel replaced the antenna in
Guadeloupe and we have not had any further prblems. However, had we
lost this antenna during the crossing it could have been a problem.
In selecting equipment I have tried to have redundancy and I am
considering installing a backstay antenna just as a backup.
Sincerely, Gary Silver Liahona


100hp Yanmar Vertical Support Failure

svloslibres <svloslibres@...>
 

We have SM#353 at Crews Inn in Trinidad. We recently found the Chrome
Vertical Support tube under the intercooler had completely separated
about 3" below the bottom of the intercooler chamber. We are waiting
for a response from Amel (<24hrs since our inquiry). We are
interested to know if others have had this problem. We only located
this site today and hopefully I did not miss a previous discussion
regarding this problem.
Glenn & Lolly Luglan
Los Libres


[Amel Yacht Owners] SSB antennas and Bikes

Anne and John <hollamby@...>
 

Message text written by INTERNET:amelyachtowners@...
<
You will need a 24>12 volt isolated voltage converter.Specify Alphatronix
30 amp.It is much cheaper and ideal for the job.You will also need an
aerial tuner,I recommend SG -230 Smartuner, see www.sgcworld.com. For an
antenna I accept SGC's advice, page 12 of the Smartuner manual:-
"4.4.Backstay Antennas-8 meters(28 feet ) or longer.......Although we
would love to sell everyone a high performance marine whip antenna,the
backstay of a sailboat is almost impossible to improve upon in most
installations."
If you are cruising worldwide you might be better off buying a small Ham
transceiver as some nets change the frequency in use during the session to
get away from interference. This is easily done with a Ham set but usually
difficult to do quickly with most SSBs.
If I were back in La Rochelle again I would call in the local B&G
technician to ensure that the equipment is fully connected e.g. to get the
B&G installation hooked up to the Raytheon autopilot's fluxgate compass to
get true wind speed and direction on the B&G etc. Our boat was delivered
without any GPS connections to the equipment !! Yes, do get folding bikes
with gears and rear carriers to lash a plastic crate to for shopping etc..

Good luck from Bali Hai in Greece Anne and John
Hollamby


SSB & FOLDING BIKES

jfolino901 <jfolino901@...>
 

A YEAR AGO I TO ASKED AMEL WHY THEY WOULDN'T UTILIZE THE BACKSTAY AS
THE SSB ANTENNA. THEIR RESPONSE WAS "THE WHIP IS WHAT WE USE & IT
WORKS FINE". WELL THEY DID & IT IS ACCEPTABLE. I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO
HERB (SOUTHBOUND II) ALL THE WAY FROM FRANCE TO PORTUGAL TO THE
CARIBBEAN.
AS FOR FOLDING BIKES ON MY BOAT HERE NEAR CAPE COD I HAVE A DAHON 5
SPEED. IN FACT I'M GOING TO MARTHA'S VINEYARD TODAY & WILL USE IT TO
TRAVEL TO MY WORK. I'VE HAD 2 OF THEM FOR AT LEAST 8 YEARS WITHOUT
ANY RUSTING OR SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS ON BOARD HERE.
ENJOY YOUR NEW SM IN LAROCHELLE.
JOHN FOLINO, SULAJON SM # 347


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB antennas and Bikes

Erick M. <maramu@...>
 

There is no doubt that having a folding bike on board is a plus. As far as I'm concern I have two on board and going shopping when the grocerry is several kilometers away is not a chore anymore. Not to mention the other administrative issues which sometimes requires you to go several time to the Harbour master office, always located at the back of beyond. However you should keep in mind that the salty air will oxidize any peace of metal which is not aluminium or stainless still. As such I would recommend you to go for an all aluminium bike. I'm personally using two Halfway bicycles made by Giant. Very good product indeed. Once folded, in their bag, storage is not an issue at all.
I bought these bikes in Asia where I leave. They cost me half the price that they cost in Europe and I courrier them to France.
Erick
Super Maramu "RIGEL II"


----Original Message Follows----
From: "itacknjibe" <itacknjibe@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB antennas and Bikes
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:01:08 -0000

Hi Amel owners,
We will take delivery of a SM2000 May 5, 2003 in La Rochelle, and
I've ordered my SSB (Icom 802) and am wondering what you all do for
an antenna. I understand that Amel is of the opinion that we should
have whip antennas, but do any of you have a backstay antenna on a
SM? If so, did Amel do it or arrange it?
Secondly, any opinions from you experienced cruisers on the value
of folding bikes? I've heard various opinions - some say they have
them but wouldn't get them again. There is certainly room in the
aft "garage", but I'm not sure if they are usefull enough to justify
the space and weight they require.
I've learned a lot since finding this group. Thanks to everyone
who's posted.
Bill and Cathy Nation
Sogno di Mare (to be)





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SSB antennas and Bikes

itacknjibe
 

Hi Amel owners,
We will take delivery of a SM2000 May 5, 2003 in La Rochelle, and
I've ordered my SSB (Icom 802) and am wondering what you all do for
an antenna. I understand that Amel is of the opinion that we should
have whip antennas, but do any of you have a backstay antenna on a
SM? If so, did Amel do it or arrange it?
Secondly, any opinions from you experienced cruisers on the value
of folding bikes? I've heard various opinions - some say they have
them but wouldn't get them again. There is certainly room in the
aft "garage", but I'm not sure if they are usefull enough to justify
the space and weight they require.
I've learned a lot since finding this group. Thanks to everyone
who's posted.
Bill and Cathy Nation
Sogno di Mare (to be)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Telephone Communications in Caribbean

pagandaisy <no_reply@...>
 

There is cellular phone service in the Caribbean. However, there is
very little roaming capability. In the British Virgins, I have
recently learned that there is now some roaming capability to the
U.S. Virgins. Also, I have found, due to terrain and lack of antennas
one is often out of range. Arnold

--- In amelyachtowners@y..., Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@p...> wrote:
Dear All,

If you have SSB try Seawave at www.seawave.com
<http://www.seawave.com> I
have seen it working and it was great. You can request information
or send
e-mail to

dblack@s... <mailto:dblack@s...> . Don Black is CEO&President.
Tell him that I gave you his e-mail address.


Regards
Dimitris Krassopoulos
Athens-Greece

-----Original Message-----
From: rbenven44 [mailto:no_reply@y...]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:51 AM
To: amelyachtowners@y...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Telephone Communications in Caribbean


Hi to all,
Excalibur (SM # 195) is in Lanzarote, and we plan to cross to
the
Caribbean in late Nov./early Dec. Anyone else crossing this year?
After 6 years in Europe, using a GSM cellphone to stay in touch,
we're heading for terra incognita as far as cell phone
communications
goes. What have some of you found useful in the Caribbean?
We have an Iridium sat phone, but are looking for other options
for family & friends to reach us on the boat.
Any ideas would be appreciated, or web sites to check out.
Thanks, Roy


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SSCA Annual Party Nov 15-17

closereach <no_reply@...>
 

Any Amel owners coming to the annual Seven Seas Cruising Association
party in Melbourne, FL Nov 15th thru 17th? We'll be there and look
forward to meeting up with other 'amelyachtowners'!
Richard
SM "Spice"


Cockpit awning options

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello

I will be replacing the cockpit awning/dodger on my SM2000. I am
wondering what other owners have designed for their cockpits. Have
any of you done a full enclosure and if you did do you find it
usefull. Has anyone come up with a way to increase visibility of the
sails with the dodger up. What material did you choose? What colors
look best.

Thank You

Vito Ciaravino


Cockpit awning options

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello

I will be replacing the cockpit awning/dodger on my SM2000. I am
wondering what other owners have designed for their cockpits. Have
any of you done a full enclosure and if you did do you find it
usefull. Has anyone come up with a way to increase visibility of the
sails with the dodger up. What material did you choose? What colors
look best.

Thank You

Vito Ciaravino